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DS has been to disney a couple times already, but this will be his first real time where he is going to eat off of the menu at table service restaurants instead of us schleping a bunch of food with us (yay!). Most places have some sort of variation of the only things he will eat besides breakfast food (pizza, chicken tenders, grilled cheese, lol) but i was wondering if anyone had experience ordering "off menu" for kiddos. Like there is a restaurant or 2 that DW and I wanted to go to that do not have those things listed, but are they still able to make them usually? I was thinking since a lot of the restaurants at the parks might be connected by the utilidors/backstage that it may not be a big deal to get them. If not then we will figure it out, no biggie.

Thanks!
 
Depends on the restaurant. Some places acually share kitchens so you can order off either menu if you really needed to.
 
I don't have direct experience, but I think in general, the rule of thumb is that if you see it on the menu, it probably can be done. For example, if fries are a side for one entree, chances are you can swap for the side on another entree or just them alone. If a chicken dish is on the menu, chances are you could get it grilled or plain. But if not on the menu at all, that's more difficult.

The utilidors really only exist in MK and even then, I'm not sure how practical "sharing" between kitchens is unless the restaurants literally share a kitchen - they're trying to serve so many people. In the other parks and Disney Springs there are also some independently owned and operated restaurants so I wouldn't expect them to have the ability to borrow/share ingredients either.

But that said, all will go out of their way to do what they can, with what they have, to accommodate. If you can list a few restaurants you were considering, I bet more could chime in with specific experiences at each that might help you decide.
 

Unless they have those ingredients already in the kitchen, I can't see them going somewhere else to get it, especially right then and there. Maybe if you have a special allergy and contact them ahead of time, they can do more. I imagine if anyplace has a bag of chicken strips sitting in the freezer though, it would be Disney restaurants.
 
As others have said, if the food is not on the menu at all, I would not count on them having it available. And the servers and chefs have enough to deal with in their restaurant, they can't be running to another location to get food for someone refusing to eat food on their menu. That is NOT what the utilidors exist for.

If he won't eat something at a place you are going, I'd feed him beforehand and then he can sit and watch you eat. Just to note: if you're talking a family-style/AYCTE/prix-fixe place, he will be charged for sitting.
 
If it's family style or buffet, the chances are slim. If it's something like they have spaghetti and sauce, getting spaghetti without sauce is trivial. We just try places that we know has something our son would eat with minor modifications, ie pizza w/o sauce at a table service. If he ends up not liking it, we get him something else afterward. No judgement here. Our son is 15 and still picky as ever. He came out of the womb that way :sad2: We do avoid places where there is pretty much no hope, ie Biergarten, Liberty Tree, Epcot food booths. It's just too stressful to bother trying to accommodate him at some places. Luckily, he'so old enough that we would can send him to eat on his own and we can do our own thing.
 
I’m in the same situation with 3 year old DGD. My plan is to schedule several late breakfast. Chef Mickey’s last seating is 12:30.
3 year old is okay. Once they count as adults they should be over it. I may be old school but it is up to parents to nip this in the bud. Trust me I know. As a kid I tried putting the brussel sprouts under the table for the dog to eat and she wouldn't. They are even worse once they've been on the floor. :)
 
Overall I would always ask and ask nicely when you are at those restaurants that don't have what your child likes. They will usually try to accommodate you. They may not have the exact thing he wants to eat but they will usually have something. And of course just be prepared to have them say no. Have a GREAT time!
 
3 year old is okay. Once they count as adults they should be over it. I may be old school but it is up to parents to nip this in the bud. Trust me I know. As a kid I tried putting the brussel sprouts under the table for the dog to eat and she wouldn't. They are even worse once they've been on the floor. :)

I see all of these posts about "picky eaters" and I wonder what in the world is going on? All of these kids can't possibly have a medical issue. That is not statistically possible. Why is it that American kids are all of a sudden incapable of eating a wide variety of normal food? But if you dare suggest that the parent's are responsible by not feeding their kids right from the beginning, you are the most awful person on the planet. It's either American kids have somehow developed a strange disorder, or it's because they are being allowed to be this picky. I worry about the health of many of these children. They can't possibly be getting proper nutrients from those kinds of diets. No wonder little kids are getting diabetes. I think that new parents should have available to them classes that teach them how to properly feed their kids. I imagine many don't know the dangers or how to handle situations where their kids don't want to eat what they put in front of them. Society has lost this parenting knowledge that is normally passed down. I believe that so many get defensive about it it because they just don't know how to handle it. There needs to be more resources.
 
3 year old is okay. Once they count as adults they should be over it. I may be old school but it is up to parents to nip this in the bud. Trust me I know. As a kid I tried putting the brussel sprouts under the table for the dog to eat and she wouldn't. They are even worse once they've been on the floor. :)
I am not the parent, just the Nana, and not about to spend this precious week with my grandchild fighting over food.
 
I see all of these posts about "picky eaters" and I wonder what in the world is going on? All of these kids can't possibly have a medical issue. That is not statistically possible. Why is it that American kids are all of a sudden incapable of eating a wide variety of normal food? But if you dare suggest that the parent's are responsible by not feeding their kids right from the beginning, you are the most awful person on the planet. It's either American kids have somehow developed a strange disorder, or it's because they are being allowed to be this picky. I worry about the health of many of these children. They can't possibly be getting proper nutrients from those kinds of diets. No wonder little kids are getting diabetes. I think that new parents should have available to them classes that teach them how to properly feed their kids. I imagine many don't know the dangers or how to handle situations where their kids don't want to eat what they put in front of them. Society has lost this parenting knowledge that is normally passed down. I believe that so many get defensive about it it because they just don't know how to handle it. There needs to be more resources.

My husband is 55. He's easily as picky as most of the kids mentioned.

If he hadn't been raised by someone who was a kind of selective eater herself, and not a really great cook either, he might have a somewhat broader repertoire. Some of it is definitely a set point (you could debate whether it's to the point of being a medical issue or not). He won't have been forced to eat things he didn't want to, but no one would have made him something else either, or even cared that much if he ate what was on the table or not. The variety of food on offer was probably somewhat limited, which I'm sure didn't help. He does make some effort to be flexible, but there are clearly just limits as to what he can work with.

He's obviously not a victim of newfangled parenting failures. It should also go without saying that forcing a child to eat food that has been on the floor is not a sound parenting strategy.

Our DS, who is now an adult, eats everything, by the way.

I suspect the "epidemic" is largely one of reporting, and it's not really that kids these days are so much fussier, it's just that you hear about it, when you wouldn't have in the past.
 
Break down the menus - DD was a picky eater, and now even into adulthood she pretty much still is kinda picky. So what I did was break down the menu... I can not tell you how many times I have said the following.. "Yes honey I know how it reads, Yes remember to read between the lines, So basically its roasted chicken, mashed potatoes, and green beans, of course you can ask for the sauce on the side". or " Lets ask what kinda of vegetables are in the veggie trio or medley or whatever" DD did not like any kinda mixture, so say the mix was carrots, broccoli and squash, she would only want the carrots ( sidebar - she is part of the broccoli hater's club LOL) Sometimes they would honor her request if not, she would replace them for another side dish like a side salad, or just skip it all together...

Pasta is a normally something that is safe, you can get plain buttered pasta, pretty much anywhere at WDW... If your kid was like mine alot of it was visual ... DD when she was little would only eat thin spaghetti pasta, or elbow macaroni... So I took her into the grocery store to show her, that its pretty much the same thing just different shapes. So we tried different shapes, which opened up a door which led to another door...

There are alot of fluffy words, culinary words and phrases, and just some fancy pants words, alot of times there are French culinary words thrown into the mix.... and added all together it makes it seem so much more than it really is.. things like ~Haricots Vert - Green Beans ~or ~ soup du jour - Soupe de poulet au Vermicelle - soup of the day - Chicken Noodle Soup ~... or ~Chiffonade or Julienne which is a knife technique on how to cut something a certain way~ find something relatable to compare it to...

As kids get older, and they start to hangout with their friends, go to their house, have sleep overs, camping out and such... get invited to stay for dinner or get taken out to eat, even get invited for the weekend or a trip to the beach or whatever... They need to be able to figure out how to be gracious, and respectful in someone else home, and how to eat what is prepared or offered... and to be able to order for oneself when going out to eat. I remember DD coming home from a weekend at the beach with her friends family, and we were talking about it over dinner, she was like we went out to eat, this seafood restaurant and was telling us all about it then she said and I like calamari, I was stunned she said her Dad order this big seafood platter thingy, and it had it on it and I thought it was just some weird fried fish or something, and it was really good.
 
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I know O'hana has an alternate kids menu, but beyond that I would look at the entire menu to see what options are available to cobble something together. There is no shame in toting along a "just in case" peanut butter sandwich if nothing looks good to your kid when they are at the restaurant. Also, you might want to check the allergy menus. Back when BOG served breakfast I would order my kids the gluten free waffles since there was no waffle option on the standard menu.

Another tip is to check out the kids menus of the restaurants you and DW want to try and see if you can introduce some of the items ahead of time, so they are familiar and not scary new things. My kids have wanted to eat at Coral Reef because they think the aquarium is cool, but there was nothing they would eat on the menu. My DH & I started having salmon more often and the kids eventually wanted to try it. Now they eat salmon most of the time. Another thing to work on is grilled chicken tastes like "chicken", plus the different shape pasta thing that the PP mentioned. We would let our boys pick out a new shape at the grocery store.
 
I see all of these posts about "picky eaters" and I wonder what in the world is going on? All of these kids can't possibly have a medical issue. That is not statistically possible. Why is it that American kids are all of a sudden incapable of eating a wide variety of normal food? But if you dare suggest that the parent's are responsible by not feeding their kids right from the beginning, you are the most awful person on the planet. It's either American kids have somehow developed a strange disorder, or it's because they are being allowed to be this picky. I worry about the health of many of these children. They can't possibly be getting proper nutrients from those kinds of diets. No wonder little kids are getting diabetes. I think that new parents should have available to them classes that teach them how to properly feed their kids. I imagine many don't know the dangers or how to handle situations where their kids don't want to eat what they put in front of them. Society has lost this parenting knowledge that is normally passed down. I believe that so many get defensive about it it because they just don't know how to handle it. There needs to be more resources.


To some degree's I agree and other points not so much... I do say this respectfully...

When I was in school a long time ago, we had something called health class... where they taught you about the basic food groups, you know the pyramid and things like nutritional value, how the body worked and processed this food, and what happens when you don't eat right... which I don't think that this is something that is offered or study in classes nowadays... along with other class that were electives like Home Economic, which both boys and girls could take, how basic cooking skills, as well as budgeting and shopping for food.

Plus all this Vegetarian, Vegan, Paleo, Keto, Pescetarian, and on and on the list goes... Ways of eating or lifestyles... Then no carbs, no sugar, no this and no that, gluten free, gluten sensitive, lactose intolerant, or milk protein intolerant( which I am). Then comes in organically grown, organically raised, free range, no hormones, no high fructose corn syrup and on and on it goes... Then the issue of what kind of milk - whole milk, 2%, 1%, almond, coconut, and again every day more and more

Then adding in all food allergies, which true food allergies is something that I understand well as I have one which is not very common Coconut. Yet it is very common in foods, flour, oil, milk, so something that I have to be aware of... There is a difference is a true allergy with adverse reactions up to life endangering consequences or just someone wanting to be current.

Kids need certain things to grow and flourish, and keeping a balanced diet is important.
With some understanding you can get around what they like and don't like... For instance I don't drink milk, even as a kid, the smell of it just makes me gag, so my parents gave me other things like yogurt, cheese.. When my DD started drinking whole milk, I would fight the urge to gag, to make sure she got what she needed.

Goodness with all this.... how would anyone be able to wade through all this... if they don't know the basic of nutrition, and how the body works and what it need to maintain it.

Lets be honest... there are foods that we just don't like the taste of which is okay. It starts when they are young you have to introduce them to a variety of foods, and sure there are things that they won't like, still you have to give it a try and retry along the childhood road. For instant my grandson will not eat mashed potatoes, he like potatoes every other way, and he doesn't like cooked carrots, yet loves raw carrots.. It's all about finding a balance and what works, and developing from there. Yet when a kid only want chicken nuggets, and pizza, how did this kid get to this point?
 
I see all of these posts about "picky eaters" and I wonder what in the world is going on? All of these kids can't possibly have a medical issue. That is not statistically possible. Why is it that American kids are all of a sudden incapable of eating a wide variety of normal food? But if you dare suggest that the parent's are responsible by not feeding their kids right from the beginning, you are the most awful person on the planet. It's either American kids have somehow developed a strange disorder, or it's because they are being allowed to be this picky. I worry about the health of many of these children. They can't possibly be getting proper nutrients from those kinds of diets. No wonder little kids are getting diabetes. I think that new parents should have available to them classes that teach them how to properly feed their kids. I imagine many don't know the dangers or how to handle situations where their kids don't want to eat what they put in front of them. Society has lost this parenting knowledge that is normally passed down. I believe that so many get defensive about it it because they just don't know how to handle it. There needs to be more resources.
yes and its always junk. Look at that list of fried junk food,pizza.the kid never "only" eats grilled chicken,salad and fruit cup.

Then they cant order for themselves either and mommy and daddy are still asking the waiter if the 15 year old can have the chicken nuggets off the kiddie menu.
 
My mother tried to make us eat liver and onions. We wouldn't, though. Also lima beans. I still won't eat either. That was 60s picky eating. So I understand what Alan is saying.
 
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