~Philadelphia Marathon 11/23/08~

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News sort of related to the MCM. They dug the Awakening out of the ground today and moved it. I think that is kind of sad. Many people looked forward to seeing it on that long stretch of the MCM. (The Awakening is a multi piece sculpture that looks like a man trying to climb/crawl his way out of the ground. You used to run past it around mile 17 of the MCM.)
Cindy- I was riding the exercise bike yesterday, turned my head to where the TV was on to CNN, and I saw Awakening. They were showing the move on CNN. They showed it loaded up on a truck and driving across a bridge over the Potomac. I'm glad I saw it when I did.
 
Hi all you MCM/Philly crazy miles people. :wave2: This seems like a much kinder gentler thread than the others and one I can keep up with too. Seeing as I met most of you at dinner in WDW and you were such awesomely nice people, I decided to come over and invade your thread.

Sara: Funny, I was watching the infomercial on the Fluidity bar yesterday a.m. and was thinking it looked worse than Pilates and yoga put together. Coincidentally, my DD13 is a gymnast, stuck in a rut at level 8 unfortunately as her Suke is killing her, and she has always (from age 3) had a bar to play on and a practice beam. It does a body good!! Glad to hear that you are in semi-recovery.

Mike: So many miles, so little time....what else do you do with your life????

Colleen: Glad things are working out for you. 5th graders, well I guess they are better than 7th when the attitude develops. Yes my DD is in 7th grade. She is a math junkie too in the enrichment program and still bored to tears.

Still trying to catch up with all of you but I do have a couple non race related questions. We are looking at taking the train to DC in April and staying at the Hilton on Connecticut Ave (package deal) and I need to know if this is a good choice, best places to take a 13 and 6 yo and some yummy places to eat!!! :idea:
 
So this is where you are hiding now. ;) I have a Nikon SLR and can help out with some of the settings, as long as you don't get too complex though. :rolleyes1 Just let me know.

Bill

Hi Bill!

Yes, help please!


First if all, did you know there is a PHOTOGRAPHY group on the DIS??

Some of the folk over there have been helping me a bit. Quite a few use the "auto" mode and have gotten some great shots.

I took my camera to the pool on Tuesday to try and get a few shots. Some were OK.

A few questions to get started:

1. ISO 800 or 1600 for shots in the pool?


2. I've selected "continuous shots" but sometimes it just takes one shot even though I am holding down the button. Why would it do this?

I did find a good online "help" in PDF form that I am printing as I type this. It looks like it will be a wealth of info. Hopefully I will have the time to get through it in the next few days.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users-guide/d40-users-guide.pdf
 
Sara, new exercise equipment!:banana: :banana:

Jodi, Jodi, Jodi are you thinking about the DL half and the NYC half? A friend of mine wants me to go to the San Francisco women's half where they give out the necklace at the end. I think a WISHer ran it last year.

Chester and Dave, PD for your jobs and/or future jobs.

LAZY SLUG, nice easy 8 miles you decided to run! Glad to hear you are feeling good. I just didn't want you to suffer the same fate as I did last year. At the time, I thought 3 marathons and 6 halfs in a 13 month period was a good idea, now look at me!:sad2:

Off to talk math with 10 year olds!
 

Hi Bill!

Yes, help please!


First if all, did you know there is a PHOTOGRAPHY group on the DIS??

Some of the folk over there have been helping me a bit. Quite a few use the "auto" mode and have gotten some great shots.

I took my camera to the pool on Tuesday to try and get a few shots. Some were OK.

A few questions to get started:

1. ISO 800 or 1600 for shots in the pool?


2. I've selected "continuous shots" but sometimes it just takes one shot even though I am holding down the button. Why would it do this?

I did find a good online "help" in PDF form that I am printing as I type this. It looks like it will be a wealth of info. Hopefully I will have the time to get through it in the next few days.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users-guide/d40-users-guide.pdf

I will guess the pool is indoors and has some sort of halogen lighting.

1. With that in mind I would probably only use 800. Even though the camera can go to 1600 and possibly 3200, the pictures most likely won't look as good.

2. If you are using the built in flash, it generally won't go continuously. Nor will it do it in the auto/green symbol mode. I guess there are too many things to adjust in the auto mode for it to snap them continuously.

As for hints, using the base camera and kit lens, keep the aperature as wide open as you can to let the most light in. I think the kit lens is 4 - 5.6 depending on the zoom. Next you want the shutter speed to be around 1/500th or so in order to freeze the motion. This combination may not be possible all the time.

You need to be as close to the pool as possible (not in it though ;) ) and generally not in the stands. So if you can get to the end of the lane without being yelled at, that is a good spot. Also the on-board flash doesn't do very much when you are far away (>15 - 20 feet).

A lens with an f2.8 or f1.8 fixed aperature is really helpful but can sometimes cost more than the camera. The bigger external flash is also helpful and 2 that are master/slaved off of each other is better. However this isn't cheap but does result in better pictures when done right.

When shooting fast pictures, a monopod or tripod will help keep the operator movement/shaking from interfering with the pictures.

Generally when shooting continuous pictures, always get 3-4 pictures per button push. This way the probability of getting the "perfect" shot is higher and being digital it doesn't cost anything.

www.dpreview.com and www.fredmiranda.com also have forums where the experts give more hints and ideas.

Bill
 
Bill - You are way too sweet coming over here on our turf to help Colleen with her new toy. From the other thread I see you're dealing with illness in your home. Lots of :wizard: for it to go away quickly and for the baby to be feeling better real soon.
I loved chatting with your lovely DW in World Showcase while she was sitting with the boys during the full. I told her that I had said hello to you on the course even though you most likely had no clue who I was:laughing: . Do you think she'd let you come run Philly with uspopcorn:: ?!
 
Sara - Yep Timmy has infections in both ears. It is painful for us knowing we can't really help and our ears hurt from all the screaming. :lmao:

I knew who you were when you came up although by that point mentally I was probably way out of it and made no sense at the time. Lynnda said you stopped to chat and she was impressed you were able to stop and talk with no effort after 25 miles.

As for Philly, she probably would let me go but I am doing the Rock and Roll San Antonio marathon the week before so I will be recovering during the Philly one. You all could always come to San Antonio. ;) There are a few of us who have already signed up and we have Anne coming with us. :rolleyes1

Bill
 
Sara -As for Philly, she probably would let me go but I am doing the Rock and Roll San Antonio marathon the week before so I will be recovering during the Philly one. You all could always come to San Antonio. ;) There are a few of us who have already signed up and we have Anne coming with us. :rolleyes1 Bill
Too funny!! We had pondered San Antonio R&R 1/2 as an alternative to Philly for our fall marathon on this thread:thumbsup2 . We stuck with Philly due to geographically it being more economical for most of us to get to PA as opposed to TX.
 
Hey all, especially to the new peeps joining in on the thread.

Sorry for the quick and selfish post but I am waist deep in work/business issues right now. Mostly good stuff...depending on how you look at it.

Not much running related news in the last 48 hours due to what I just said about work. We also have snow on the ground today for the first time in a year. I did see Spirit of the Marathon last night with DW and the same crew that came to WDW with me last month. It was a good movie, got me a little fired up about running, but not a great movie. Anyone else see it?

I gotta run. Hope all of you have fun on your runs or your shovelling?

Lou
 
I will guess the pool is indoors and has some sort of halogen lighting.

1. With that in mind I would probably only use 800. Even though the camera can go to 1600 and possibly 3200, the pictures most likely won't look as good.

2. If you are using the built in flash, it generally won't go continuously. Nor will it do it in the auto/green symbol mode. I guess there are too many things to adjust in the auto mode for it to snap them continuously.

As for hints, using the base camera and kit lens, keep the aperature as wide open as you can to let the most light in. I think the kit lens is 4 - 5.6 depending on the zoom. Next you want the shutter speed to be around 1/500th or so in order to freeze the motion. This combination may not be possible all the time.

You need to be as close to the pool as possible (not in it though ;) ) and generally not in the stands. So if you can get to the end of the lane without being yelled at, that is a good spot. Also the on-board flash doesn't do very much when you are far away (>15 - 20 feet).

A lens with an f2.8 or f1.8 fixed aperature is really helpful but can sometimes cost more than the camera. The bigger external flash is also helpful and 2 that are master/slaved off of each other is better. However this isn't cheap but does result in better pictures when done right.

When shooting fast pictures, a monopod or tripod will help keep the operator movement/shaking from interfering with the pictures.

Generally when shooting continuous pictures, always get 3-4 pictures per button push. This way the probability of getting the "perfect" shot is higher and being digital it doesn't cost anything.

www.dpreview.com and www.fredmiranda.com also have forums where the experts give more hints and ideas.

Bill

Thanks Bill for all the great info, I will have time tomorrow to play around with the camera. I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks for the websites too, I will check those out!


Quickly before I fall asleep in this chair, I am SOOO tired today, but I did get 4 miles in yesterday and 6 a.m. yoga today.

I will catch up with everyone tomorrow.

Nightie night!
 
Hi Everyone: Quick post - I did 90 min on the exercise bike this morning. It said I did 29 miles for whatever that's worth. OK, that's my limit on the bike. I'm trying to figure out what to do next week. I might try to mix in some running with my biking, and work myself back slowly.
 
Howdy Folks,

Bill - Nice to see you in these parts. Hope Timmy's feeling better. Good luck to you and Lynnda on your races this weekend.

Colleen - Nice job on the miles and the yoga.

Dave - Ready for the Tour de France yet? I hope the hip does well once you hit the road without training wheels.

Hey to everyone else.

Well, my training plan called for a LR of 7 miles today:yay: :yay: . Talk about a step-back week! I did a little over 8 miles just for the heck of it.

Cindy, I still haven't decided whether to run the half or the full. 90% for the full but I'm going to wait until after next weekend's 20 miler to decide for sure. That gives me a little cushion so that I can, as Colleen so wisely suggested, listen to my body.

Have a great rest of the weekend!
 
WOW, this thread is dead!

Where'd everybody go? Spending time on OTHER threads, are you...ARE YOU? HMPH!:snooty:

FINE, BE THAT WAY! I'M OUTTA HERE:drive: ....
 
Where'd everybody go? Spending time on OTHER threads, are you...ARE YOU? HMPH!:snooty:
Not me sister! I just thought it would be sad if I just kept posting, having little conversations with myself.

I figured everyone just must have been having too much fun over the weekend to check in. Me, I spent most of my day yesterday cleaning house. Yippee:rolleyes2 .

I went out for a pleasant (well, not painful) 6 miles this morning. All seems to be well.

How's everyone else?
 
Finally, my instant email notifications are back!

I'm here, I've just kind of been having a rough time lately and I seem to have no time for anything, so I feel bad posting without responding to everyone.

I'll try to pop back in later today or maybe a bit later in the week.

As for my running. I skipped Friday's tempo run becuase of weather and because I just really didn't want to run it. I ran 14 yesterday. It was terrible. One of the worst runs I have ever had. And my legs were so sore and in so much pain last night that I got absolutely no sleep. I don't get it. The only other times my legs have hurt that much were after my 20 miler and after the MCM. How could 14 miles make me feel that bad? :confused3 Its not like I was adding mileage too quickly either . . .
 
Finally, my instant email notifications are back!

I'm here, I've just kind of been having a rough time lately and I seem to have no time for anything, so I feel bad posting without responding to everyone.

I'll try to pop back in later today or maybe a bit later in the week.

As for my running. I skipped Friday's tempo run becuase of weather and because I just really didn't want to run it. I ran 14 yesterday. It was terrible. One of the worst runs I have ever had. And my legs were so sore and in so much pain last night that I got absolutely no sleep. I don't get it. The only other times my legs have hurt that much were after my 20 miler and after the MCM. How could 14 miles make me feel that bad? :confused3 Its not like I was adding mileage too quickly either . . .
Cindy- I'm sorry to hear you're having a rough time. Feel free to share with your team. We're here for you. I know you've all given me so much support lately. Sorry to hear about your bad run too. That does sound odd. Chalk it up to a bad day, and move on. Hopefully it's just a one time thing.

Not much new going on with me either. Kids were out of school last week, I was doing some biking, that's about it.
 
So Mike will it be the half or full marathon next month? Have you decided yet?

Jodi, what's going on girl? Any running happening? We have a warm day here today, 60 F, that helps me get out of my post marathon slump, which I am still in. I need to lose these 10 pounds that I gained since the marathon and warmer weather helps me eat more sensibly.

Cindy, take it easy girlfriend.

Hi Dave, are you ready to hit to road yet or are you still biking? I haven't ran one step since the marathon, strickly walking and biking.

I got into my vehicle this morning to go to work and my battery was dead. I could tell that last few days something was wrong with how it started, but it was completely dead this morning. I called my retired neighbor to come give me a boost, but he wasn't home, so I called AAA. I hate AAA, they NEVER come in a timely manner. They took them 90 minutes to come, I was just glad I was at home so I could do stuff. That would have been a long 90 minutes waiting on the side of a road. Anyway, he offered to put in a new battery for me, I agreed since we plan on trading in this vehicle sometime in the next year, so I didn't want to spend a ton on an expensive battery.

So does anyone LOVE the vehicle they are currently driving??
 
So Mike will it be the half or full marathon next month? Have you decided yet?
Colleen - It will be the full, but I'm waiting until after my 20 mile LR this weekend to register just in case.

Sorry you had car trouble but better at home than out in the boonies somewhere. I currently love my Maserati.
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Unfortunately, my Maserati looks much more like a '96 Dodge Caravan. The chicks dig it!

I'm patiently waiting for it to die at which point we will get a new Honda minivan for Kathy and I'll inherit her 2002 Honda van (obviously my mid-life crisis has involved running and not buying a sports car!).


Dave - Glad to hear from you. Were the kids out for spring break? Let us know how your rehab is progressing.


Cindy - Sorry you had such a terrible run. Are you feeling O.K. now? It makes no sense why some runs are just rotten like that. I'll ask the old stand-by: How many miles are on your shoes?

I hope work slows down for you (although I'm kind of doubting it just going by your history:rolleyes: ).


Sara - I saw a Fluidity box in a friend's garbage out by the curb this evening. I vaguely remembered Kathy telling me the friend got one right before you posted about it but it didn't click until tonight.

Did you get a picture of your award? Big ceremony and all?


Talk to everyone later!
 
Good Morning Team Mates: Guess what? I ran yesterday! :cool1: I decided to give my hip a try so I ran for a mile on the TM (in ~9:30), and then I did another 20 min on the exercise bike. My hip felt OK, it was a little stiff, and my legs felt kind of weak, but all and all it was OK. I could have run farther, but I didn't want to push it. Slow and steady, right?

Nice ride Mike, so is that an option you can get to get your Maserati look like a 96 Dodge Caravan? Yup, the kiddos had last week off of school. We took a long weekend to go to a winter festival at Chautauqua Lake. They built a huge ice castle, had a fried dough, a bonfire, fireworks, etc., and then we went on to Splash Lagoon (an indoor water park) in Erie, PA. DW's Father got us giftcards to Splash Lagoon for Christmas. It was great to get out of town, and have a change of pace. How about you guys? Did your girls have off school last week?

Hello Colleen- first run in a very long time for me at least 3 weeks and probably longer. How is your knee these days? Do you have anything you're training for? Hope the teaching's going well for you.

Howdy Jodi.

Hi Sara- How are you doing these days? Were your girls out of school last week too? Did you guys go anywhere?
 
Hi Guys:yay: !! Since y'all are posting about mostly non-running things, I'll join in:thumbsup2 . Actually, I was laying low because I managed to slam a steel door into my forehead on Sunday morning so I have a slight concussion now:lmao: Who bends over while swinging the door open:confused3 ?

Dave - Nice run but definitely take baby steps. My kids had off last week but we just spent 10 days in FL last month so no trips. It sounds like you guys had a blast:) .

Mike - The awards ceremony is Thursday night so I may have pics Friday;) . I hate to laugh but DH used to have the Dodge Caravan and I used to refer to it as his "middle-aged man mobile:rotfl: ." I bet the chicks are surely swarming your ride:cool1: . Best of luck on your LR this weekend:cheer2: .

Colleen - Sorry about the battery incident:headache: . I hope the car holds out until you get a new one next year. I've been eyeing the Nissan Murano for a while and this morning I seeit got an excellent safety rating.

Jodi - I haven't been posting elsewhere:rolleyes1 . Just not much running going on so I feel strange posting about my lack of it. Don't get me wrong, lots of working out going onpopcorn:: but just not racking up the miles. How about you? When's that Ultra?!

Cindy - :wizard: Sorry to hear about the less than optimal 14 miler. Just listen to your body and get some rest:hug: . With so much else going on maybe it is best not too push it with respect to mileage.

Well, Saturday I did 5 miles, which is the longest run since WDW, and I was in agony for the remainder of the day. Now my left hip is killing me:eek: . Let's not forget the head injury:headache: . I'm kind of like the walking wounded and I am so sick of it. On a good note, I am okay with not being able to run long because I do love yoga, Pilates and Fluidity. I guess whatever keeps me sane will do:hippie: .

Happy training to all this weekend:cheer2:
 
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