People still making multiple reservations at same place

[jodywgirl]

I had hoped that with the credit card holds and the online system that this would stop happening but from what I have read on the cancel threads clearly it has not. There was a lady with 4 Ohana dinner reservations waiting for a different date, two on the same day. I have seen duplicate Le Cellier lunch and even someone with duplicate BOG ADR's just waiting to see which day they want. This was all on the December cancelled thread and most of these threads have been removed as they were wants not cancellations.

Does this frustrate anyone else who at 180 days out had a plan and made their ADR's or who called on first day of BOG and didn't get one and have been checking multiple times a day. There are people looking for these reservations every day let some of them go if you know there is no way you are going to use them.

Sorry this is a rant I am just frustrated at not getting a BOG, although thankfully we can try the counter service.

 

[DisneyFansInLINY]

Unfortunately, it is hard to decide where you will want to eat, what park you will be in, etc 180 days in advance. And even though Disney has implemented the credit card hold policy, there will still be those who make multiple reservations with plans to wait until the last minute to cancel them. Since Disney gives 24 hours to cancel, there is no way to penalize anyone with multiple ADR's intentionally planning to cancel last minute. Perhaps the solution would be to only allow one reservation per family to very popular restaurants per week or month. However I have no idea how Disney could go about doing that.

I had hoped that with the credit card holds and the online system that this would stop happening but from what I have read on the cancel threads clearly it has not. There was a lady with 4 Ohana dinner reservations waiting for a different date, two on the same day. I have seen duplicate Le Cellier lunch and even someone with duplicate BOG ADR's just waiting to see which day they want. This was all on the December cancelled thread and most of these threads have been removed as they were wants not cancellations.

Does this frustrate anyone else who at 180 days out had a plan and made their ADR's or who called on first day of BOG and didn't get one and have been checking multiple times a day. There are people looking for these reservations every day let some of them go if you know there is no way you are going to use them.

Sorry this is a rant I am just frustrated at not getting a BOG, although thankfully we can try the counter service.

 

[peaceluv&mickeymouse]

Its unfortunate but some people just don't care. Its the me me me attitude. Nothing you can do about it.

 

[jodywgirl]

I don't understand how they do it. I have changed a few reservations and if its for the same day and meal they automatically cancel the other. Are they using multiple emails or using online and phone system.

 

[20yBWDW]

Its unfortunate but some people just don't care. Its the me me me attitude. Nothing you can do about it.

Right, because you plan your family vacation with your own family the last priority?

I held 2 'Ohana ADRs for a few days to decide which scenario worked better for my family, then posted here before I canceled it. Maybe the identity of the person who ended up with that ADR would have been different if I had canceled it immediately upon obtaining the second one versus canceling it after a few days' thought, but either way, one person is happy and one is not. The ADRs people hold and cancel after they work out what is best for their trip are not going to waste. Since people are complaining about anyone having more than one ADR for the same restaurant, without knowing if they had that ADR for 10 minutes or 3 months, it strikes me that this is just a desire to blame someone for them not being able to get the ADR they wanted. But all it's going to do is discourage people from posting those cancellations here. It's not going to discourage people from booking more than one and canceling when they know their schedule, knowing it will go to good use either way.

 

[TiggerTrigger]

I don't understand how they do it. I have changed a few reservations and if its for the same day and meal they automatically cancel the other. Are they using multiple emails or using online and phone system.

I have a coworker who often quadruple books. The key is different email addresses and phone numbers. He uses his home email and phone, his work email and phone, his wife's email and phone, and his wife's work email and phone. The system doesn't recognize them as conflicting, and as long as he inputs the correct phone number and confirm number- he can link them to his Disney account and vacay w/o any conflicts or secondary Disney accts.

Not condoning it, but that's a pretty common way to do it.

 

[peaceluv&mickeymouse]

Right, because you plan your family vacation with your own family the last priority?

I held 2 'Ohana ADRs for a few days to decide which scenario worked better for my family, then posted here before I canceled it. Maybe the identity of the person who ended up with that ADR would have been different if I had canceled it immediately upon obtaining the second one versus canceling it after a few days' thought, but either way, one person is happy and one is not. The ADRs people hold and cancel after they work out what is best for their trip are not going to waste. Since people are complaining about anyone having more than one ADR for the same restaurant, without knowing if they had that ADR for 10 minutes or 3 months, it strikes me that this is just a desire to blame someone for them not being able to get the ADR they wanted. But all it's going to do is discourage people from posting those cancellations here. It's not going to discourage people from booking more than one and canceling when they know their schedule, knowing it will go to good use either way.

Blah blah blah it's still taking away the opportunity for other people. Like I said the me me me attitude

 

[jodywgirl]

Right, because you plan your family vacation with your own family the last priority?

I held 2 'Ohana ADRs for a few days to decide which scenario worked better for my family, then posted here before I canceled it. Maybe the identity of the person who ended up with that ADR would have been different if I had canceled it immediately upon obtaining the second one versus canceling it after a few days' thought, but either way, one person is happy and one is not. The ADRs people hold and cancel after they work out what is best for their trip are not going to waste. Since people are complaining about anyone having more than one ADR for the same restaurant, without knowing if they had that ADR for 10 minutes or 3 months, it strikes me that this is just a desire to blame someone for them not being able to get the ADR they wanted. But all it's going to do is discourage people from posting those cancellations here. It's not going to discourage people from booking more than one and canceling when they know their schedule, knowing it will go to good use either way.

These weren't posts of cancellations these were posts of wants. I have 4 ohanas but I want a different day and time and I'm not canceling the others until the deadline or I get the other one. I understand plans change but 2 for the same night same place give someone else a chance and the relief of knowing they have the ones you want. It would be nice if you could have plans that were not so rigid and choose while u were there when and where to eat but this doesn't work if u want the popular places.

 

[20yBWDW]

Blah blah blah it's still taking away the opportunity for other people. Like I said the me me me attitude

Well, I certainly cannot come up with a counterpoint to "blah blah blah" but it's no more of a me me me attitude than the people who are posting the self-pity and indignation of not getting their desired ADR. The attitude is the same. The difference is that one managed to prepare better.

 

[jodywgirl]

Well, I certainly cannot come up with a counterpoint to "blah blah blah" but it's no more of a me me me attitude than the people who are posting the self-pity and indignation of not getting their desired ADR. The attitude is the same. The difference is that one managed to prepare better.

Prepared better by gaming the system. They put things in place so people don't have multiple ADR's for same day same meal and people use multiple emails and phones to work around it. I didn't start this to cause problems and I am very prepared unfortunately I also have a job and couldn't take the day BOG opened up off to call all morning. I tried for an hour before I left for work and at my lunch and there were no reservations for my week there. It does frustrate me when people talk about multiples of BOG share the magic people

 

[20yBWDW]

These weren't posts of cancellations these were posts of wants. I have 4 ohanas but I want a different day and time and I'm not canceling the others until the deadline or I get the other one. I understand plans change but 2 for the same night same place give someone else a chance and the relief of knowing they have the ones you want. It would be nice if you could have plans that were not so rigid and choose while u were there when and where to eat but this doesn't work if u want the popular places.

well posting that you have 4 ADRs and want a different one is an extreme. But the OP also mentioned duplicate ADRs--two of same restaurant on different days, and I do not see that as egregious as people are making it out to be. We have not been to WDW in 20 years, and planning meals has not been all that easy, especially as schedule changes come out. I tend to cancel quickly, with the one exception I mentioned above, and have regretted it when hours changed. Not only can I completely understand why someone who has gotten screwed by schedule changes may end up doing multiple bookings on future trips, I am fairly certain I am benefiting from several late cancellations.

Either way, someone is not going to get the ADR they want on the date/time they want. I am not sure why some people feel that others should place strangers' ADR desires over others. We're not talking about people holding these ADRs open past a time when someone else could use them. So someone other than themselves will benefit from the late cancellation--possibly a first timer like myself, someone whose trip changed, etc.

Now, if they were holding an ADR in a way that prevented anyone else from getting the experience of dining there--like never canceling it at all, leaving the restaurant to hold a table open, then I would agree that it is an overly selfish attitude. But in general, we are all placing a priority on our family when planning these trips, and if the results of that are fairly neutral (one person not getting the ADR is canceled out by someone else getting it) then I just don't see a major problem.

 

[LeighMWilliams]

I fail to understand why people bother to make multiple reservations rather than simply plan around your meals. If meals and family time are that important to you then you must make a decision-park time vs meal time. Unfortunately some people want the best of both worlds and it is effecting others. To those of you who are not flexible enough to take any time available count yourself lucky that you would have any reservation at all. For example, I saw one reservation for CRT at 9:20pm and jumped on it because I want to eat there. Don't be selfish, pick a (meaning one time) and stick to it. After all, you would hate to be on the receiving end.

 

[Pat329]

I remember when you use to have to be in the park and go to the restaurant you wanted to make your reservation for that day only. I waited years to get into certain places but it was more fair than what we have today. People do double book and always will. People do reserve 180 days out so people that make last minute trips are just out of luck. It's just not fair but Disney has decided to do it this way and we have to follow their rules. It's a shame that my itinerary was created around my dinner reservations instead of what park I wanted to go to first. At least before only people that were in the park that day were offered the restaurants of that park. I still like that idea.

 

[20yBWDW]

I fail to understand why people bother to make multiple reservations rather than simply plan around your meals. If meals and family time are that important to you then you must make a decision-park time vs meal time. Unfortunately some people want the best of both worlds and it is effecting others. To those of you who are not flexible enough to take any time available count yourself lucky that you would have any reservation at all. For example, I saw one reservation for CRT at 9:20pm and jumped on it because I want to eat there. Don't be selfish, pick a (meaning one time) and stick to it. After all, you would hate to be on the receiving end.

Trust me, if I took my children, who have bedtimes of 8 PM, to a 9 PM meal, you would not consider it the less selfish choice.

I am not sure I completely understand your post. Park time is family time for us. We have a large group and are trying to meet the needs of all. Hopping between parks is not reasonable for us because of a combination of young children and health issues for adults. For same reasons, going to parks with 8 AM rope drop or EMH is not a reasonable option for us. When it was announced last week that MK would have several 8 AM openings, our itinerary no longer worked, and we had reservations in restaurants in parks we would not be in that day. The attitude that I should take one gambling shot at my vacation plans, then take it or leave it, is certainly no less selfish than my attitude that it's okay for me to hold 2 ADRs on 2 different days at the same restaurant for a few days while I decide, and expect the other person to just keep trying if they want one of the ADRs that I have. Both attitudes are selfish, but mine is certainly not more so.

I said it on another thread, but if Disney did not change operating hours with 2 weeks out, I may completely change my mind on this topic. But with 3 young kids and people with health issues, opening times makes a difference, and park hopping is not an option. I'm not going to just say screw my family, their ages and health needs means they should not get to eat at their desired restaurants if unforeseen (for me, a virtual first-timer) circumstances means that my first educated guess was wrong, because it's more important that strangers get what they want.

And, for clarification, I am not talking about people using multiple email addresses, or people holding onto 4 to get the one specific time slot they want.

 

[LAtink]

I am the one with the 4 Ohana reservations. I work hard to pay for my Disney trips, and if I choose to make 4 reservations until we decide what is what, I will do so. We are going with a large group and our plans are constantly changing. Two possibly three of those reservations will be cancelled about a month prior to our trip. At that time, I will let people on these boards know that I am cancelling. I have NEVER been a no show at a reservation so someone else misses out. And I don't feel the need to explain any longer. For what its worth, I do not have a single BOG reservation either, after trying ALL Day when they starting taking ressies.

 

[mom2rtk]

I work hard to pay for my Disney trips, and if I choose to make 4 reservations until we decide what is what, I will do so.

Would that be as opposed to those who do not work hard for their Disney vacations?

I honestly don't care what you do. Until Disney finds a way to prevent this, then go for it. But please don't justify it that way.

 

[LAtink]

I don't have to justify anything. I will do what I do and same goes for everyone else.

 

[ses1230]

I am the one with the 4 Ohana reservations. I work hard to pay for my Disney trips, and if I choose to make 4 reservations until we decide what is what, I will do so.

Of course you won't justify it, there is nothing that will. It's rude.

And please don't use the excuse that you work hard and pay a lot for vacations. I do to.

And the other excuse (of another poster) that "I better get a better time than you or else my kids will have a meltdown and disturb you at that time of night" is also ridiculous. If the ADR times are too late for your kids, than don't go to that restaurant.

 

[Steakgoddess]

So is it just "bad" to make multiple reservations at the same restaurant if you plan on canceling some of them, or is it bad to make multiple reservations period?

I have two reservations on two different nights at Narcoossee's. We will eat there twice during our trip. It's our favorite and frankly, if I get two ressies, then I get two ressies. As another poster said, this is OUR (my) vacation and we plan to make it the best possible way for US.

 

[glasslipper]

While I understand there are reasons for why people do the double- booking, I still feel it is just selfish behavior, and is more than "good planning". Pretty much every family who goes to Disney World pays a lot for their vacation and works hard to afford it. Most people want the perfect vacation, or at least as perfect or magical as they can make it. Disney has made efforts to discourage double-booking, so apparently, it isn't something they want guests practicing.
I don't think having multiple reservations for different days is that terrible, as long as people cancel their unwanted adrs, but holding 2 or more different reservations for the same day ... not cool.