Park Bus Stop Unfairness....

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dreamergirl78 said:
So my point is: maybe busses are only dispatched when there is enough people there waiting to warrent a bus. I don't know. Could be a possibility though. Since POP has so many more people than say CR, that is why you notice that many more busses coming to the POP bus stop.
You could be right about that, but in my opinion I don't think that is how their bus system works. Their bus signs say they come every 20 minutes & maybe on that morning you were at Pop Century they were behind schedule, which is possible on some mornings. So my guess is the bus driver going to the Magic Kingdom said on the radio, to send a Animal Kingdom bus to the Pop Century. So to say they dispatch a bus when it's needed is the total opposite of what their bus system means, so you can throw out the 20 minute rule. As for the camera being there, my guess is that they are there just for security & not to keep track of which guests is about to board which Disney Transport bus. If that were true & you were waiting there for such a long perioid of time, wouldn't a CM seen you on camera & came up to you earlier & asked which bus you are waiting for? To me that makes for sense then the way you wrote it out to be.
 
i<3Disney said:
I think that if a hotel is further away from a particular park, it should get more buses for that particular route. I've sat for 45 minutes at the GF and Poly bus stops waiting to go to MGM and Epcot.....that should not be.
I toally agree with you 100% because that is a very good point you just made. So that is something else to consider & it's another valid point for more bus service with the MK Resorts, because they are a good distance away from MGM. At least with Epcot guests at the Contemporary, Polynesian & Grand Floridian can take the Monorail. So for Wilderness Lodge guests, the problem should be fixed.
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
NO I am not missing the point, I was just stating my opinion. I thought based on the Contemporary's total room numbers they should have more buses, which is a fair thing to ask.

I guess that's what I'm not understanding about what you are saying.

Yes, I understand that you think the contemporary (and other deluxes) should run more busses, even if they are empty, because you feel you "paid for it". I disagree, but I understand.

What I don't get is why you keep saying "based on total room numbers". That would go against your argument. Based on total room numbers, the amount of busses generally dispatched is distributed based on the number of guests at each resort, i.e. total room numbers.

As I've plainly pointed out (nothing to agree or disagree about, it's a fact), in the example resorts we talked about (Contemporary and Pop) BASED ON the total room numbers at those resorts, the busses run on par with how many rooms, NOT the class of hotel.

There are plusses and minuses to every category. Some people think the deluxes are stuffy and not as "Disney", while others think the values are gaudy and tacky. It's a well established fact that the bus service from the MK area resorts (which are deluxes) to the other three parks at the other end of the property is not as good as if you are staying in other resorts closer. That's the price one pays for the immediate access to the MK - less access to the other parks. One has to remember that a bus going back and forth from, say, AK and Pop is going to have more runs than, say, the GF and AK because there is a signifigantly greater distance there.

NED
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
I toally agree with you 100% because that is a very good point you just made. So that is something else to consider & it's another valid point for more bus service with the MK Resorts, because they are a good distance away from MGM. At least with Epcot guests at the Contemporary, Polynesian & Grand Floridian can take the Monorail. So for Wilderness Lodge guests, the problem should be fixed.

The CR is just 6 miles away from MGM so
that would mean the All Stars will get better sevice to MK
because the MK is 7 miles away.YEAH! :thumbsup2

Just kidding guys. ;)

Here are the Distances from the resorts to each park.
From:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/Resorts/resort-distances.htm
Distances:
ALL STARS:

Magic Kingdom: 7 miles

Epcot: 4 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 2 miles

Animal Kingdom: 3 miles

ANIMAL KINGDOM LODGE:

Magic Kingdom: 12 miles

Epcot: 8 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 6 miles

Animal Kingdom: 2 miles

BEACH CLUB:

Magic Kingdom: 7 miles

Epcot: 3 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 1 mile

Animal Kingdom: 6 miles

BOARDWALK INN:

Magic Kingdom: 6 miles

Epcot: 3 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 1 mile

Animal Kingdom: 5 miles

CARIBBEAN BEACH:

Magic Kingdom: 6 miles

Epcot: 1 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 2 miles

Animal Kingdom: 6 miles

CONTEMPORARY:

Magic Kingdom: 1 mile

Epcot: 6 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 6 miles

Animal Kingdom: 10 miles

CORONADO SPRINGS:

Magic Kingdom: 4 miles

Epcot: 6 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 1 mile

Animal Kingdom: 4 miles

FORT WILDERNESS CAMPGROUND :

Magic Kingdom: 2 miles

Epcot: 6 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 7 miles

Animal Kingdom: 11 miles

GRAND FLORIDIAN:

Magic Kingdom: 2 miles

Epcot: 6 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 5 miles

Animal Kingdom: 9 miles


POP CENTURY:

Magic Kingdom: 7 miles

Epcot: 3 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 3 miles

Animal Kingdom: 5 miles

OLD KEY WEST:

Magic Kingdom: 5 miles

Epcot: 1 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 3 miles

Animal Kingdom: 7 miles

POLYNESIAN:

Magic Kingdom: 2 miles

Epcot: 5 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 5 miles

Animal Kingdom: 9 miles

PORT ORLEANS FRENCH QUARTER:

Magic Kingdom: 5 miles

Epcot: 1 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 5 miles

Animal Kingdom: 9 miles

PORT ORLEANS RIVERSIDE:

Magic Kingdom: 5 miles

Epcot: 1 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 5 miles

Animal Kingdom: 9 miles

SARATOGA SPRINGS:

Magic Kingdom: 5 miles

Epcot: 1 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 5 miles

Animal Kingdom: 9 miles

SWAN/DOLPHIN RESORTS:

Magic Kingdom: 6 miles

Epcot: 2 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 1 mile

Animal Kingdom: 5 miles

WILDERNESS LODGE :

Magic Kingdom: 1 miles

Epcot: 6 mile

Disney MGM Studios: 6 miles

Animal Kingdom: 10 miles

YACHT CLUB:

Magic Kingdom: 7 miles

Epcot: 3 miles

Disney MGM Studios: 1 mile

Animal Kingdom: 6 miles
 

You know....let's dissect what the OP's point was:

  • Used to pay for higher class service and received it
  • Paid for higher class service and is not receiving it anymore

Here's how we've replied to the OP so far:

  • OMG, You're a snob
  • I prefer to spend my money this and that way instead
  • This post is stupid and whiney
  • I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad

Anyone have a hard time comprehending the points I just wrote? It's in plain english. There's no cryptic hidden message to decipher. Come on, this post isn't about literary comprehension. This is not a Shakespearean play where you need to analyze each line and write a 20 page paper hypothesizing and theorizing what it could POSSIBLY mean.

Sometimes, things are as they seem. The OP probably just wants to see if anyone else thinks it's fair or not. This is a simple matter of posting "I agree" or "I disagree". Sure, you may state your reasons for choosing either choice, but I think we've gone a bit beyond that.

My two cents: If I paid for a red car, I expect to receive a red car. So, if I pay for a particular level of service, I expect that service to be returned. When a man is presented with a choice, and makes a choice, he expects his choice to lead to an outcome he wants, or else he would have not made that choice. Sure, if you're stranded on an island due to a plane crash, and there's no civilization around, but you happen to find something that resembles a boat that can get you off the island, you'd take it. But, that circumstance is different. You wanted to get off the island. You had no choice but to take this "boat". However, this isn't the case. The OP is not stuck on an island. They are at a boat dock, they wanna get from point A to point B. They have 52342108 boats to pick from. The one they pick is SUPPOSED to have a cup holder. It doesn't. The OP complains. Wouldn't you? You wanted the boat for the cup holder!!! If it didn't matter, then you would have just picked a boat. But, a lot of you aren't understanding, and thinking that the OP is stuck on an island with no boat. And that is where the confusion which spawned 10 pages comes from.

I'm not trying to attack anyone. This is just how I perceived the thread so far. Let's just drop this and get on with our lives. Sorry if reading this bruised your ego. But, bickering on an internet thread over something so trivial is probably preventing you from catching the next episode of Deal Or No Deal. Speaking of which....*makes a mad dash off to the TV*

PS: I'm well aware of how long winded this was. But, I'm sure someone will be more than happy to remind me :)
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
This might get me flamed by others who flamed the OP, but I am not going to be afraid to say it. I think WDW should upgrade the bus service for each Deluxe Resort. After all these guests pay the most $ per night to stay at these WDW Resorts, so why should Transportation not be any different. I can't tell you how many times my family & I have waited for a Contemporary bus at Downtown Disney & saw so many All Star Resort, Pop Century, Caribbean Beach & Port Orleans buses, before the next Contemporary bus. Because of that whenever we go to Downtown Disney we take my Dad's car which saves a lot of time & this is something we have mentioned to Cast Members that this part of the bus system needs to be fixed. So I think it's fair that guests at Deluxe Resorts should get the same great bus service that guests who stay at Value & Moderate Resorts. Afterall I have read so many posts saying how great bus service at Pop Century or Coronado Springs is, so why should Deluxe Resorts not be any different?

So if you want to examine the Value, Moderate & Deluxe Resort battle, guests at the Value & Moderate Resorts should stop & think how great their bus service is, before attacking guests who stay at Deluxe Resorts who complain about bus service just because we may get much bettter services & etc. In fact part of me thinks a bunch of people who flamed the OP have stayed at Value or Moderate Resorts & thought the OP was being a snob for posting this thread.


I've stayed at Value and Moderate resorts and have no problem with Deluxe guests having better transportation service. I actually always assumed that they already did. LOL!
But it does make sense that the buses change routes to pick up for wherever they need to most.

This thread just makes me love my rental car even more. :love:
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
You could be right about that, but in my opinion I don't think that is how their bus system works. Their bus signs say they come every 20 minutes & maybe on that morning you were at Pop Century they were behind schedule, which is possible on some mornings. So my guess is the bus driver going to the Magic Kingdom said on the radio, to send a Animal Kingdom bus to the Pop Century. So to say they dispatch a bus when it's needed is the total opposite of what their bus system means, so you can throw out the 20 minute rule. As for the camera being there, my guess is that they are there just for security & not to keep track of which guests is about to board which Disney Transport bus. If that were true & you were waiting there for such a long perioid of time, wouldn't a CM seen you on camera & came up to you earlier & asked which bus you are waiting for? To me that makes for sense then the way you wrote it out to be.

Are you going to seriously argue with everything people say? I know what I wrote and what I wrote is exactly how it happened and what I was TOLD by a Disney bus driver. And I never saw a sign that said 20 minutes. In fact it seemed as though our little value busses were there every 10 minutes or so. I hardly ever saw CMs by the bus ques. Why would they be? And why would they come up to me? I was sitting there (out of the line of sight for the cameras) and when I was told to stand in the line, a bus appeared shortly after. I think you are so dead set in your way of thinking that any other logical thought processes are tossed to the wayside. Think about this. Why would they waste time and money to have busses constantly circling if there is nobody there waiting for the bus? We were at DTD and there were 2 resort ques that had people in them. Not once did I see a bus come by for any other resort other than the ones that had people waiting for them! My theory makes perfect sense to me, especially after the information I was given.
 
FishFlavoredSoda said:
I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad

WOW,you're going to be really popular on DIS if you start posting that kind of stuff.
 
NewEnglandDisney said:
I guess that's what I'm not understanding about what you are saying.

Yes, I understand that you think the contemporary (and other deluxes) should run more busses, even if they are empty, because you feel you "paid for it". I disagree, but I understand.

What I don't get is why you keep saying "based on total room numbers". That would go against your argument. Based on total room numbers, the amount of busses generally dispatched is distributed based on the number of guests at each resort, i.e. total room numbers.

As I've plainly pointed out (nothing to agree or disagree about, it's a fact), in the example resorts we talked about (Contemporary and Pop) BASED ON the total room numbers at those resorts, the busses run on par with how many rooms, NOT the class of hotel.

There are plusses and minuses to every category. Some people think the deluxes are stuffy and not as "Disney", while others think the values are gaudy and tacky. It's a well established fact that the bus service from the MK area resorts (which are deluxes) to the other three parks at the other end of the property is not as good as if you are staying in other resorts closer. That's the price one pays for the immediate access to the MK - less access to the other parks. One has to remember that a bus going back and forth from, say, AK and Pop is going to have more runs than, say, the GF and AK because there is a signifigantly greater distance there.

NED
Hopefully this will clear things up for you. The Contemporary has 1,401 rooms. I thought since that is a high number it should have more buses, because The All Stars have 1,960 rooms at each resort for a total of 5,760 rooms, Pop has 2,880 rooms, CBR has 2,112 rooms & POFQ has 1,008 rooms and Por has 1,024 for a total of 2,032 rooms. I realize the total amount of rooms for the Contemporary maybe smaller then the other Resorts I have mentioned, but I thought since it's over 1000 rooms it should warent more buses. I guess I was wrong, but my point was because it's up there in total of number of rooms, that's why I thought they should have more buses. Also it since it shares with the Polynesian, Grand Floridian & sometimes Wilderness Lodge it should be a reason for more buses, since those guests are waiting on the same buses as Contemporary guests & yes I do know each Resort is different, so no need to point that out to me.
 
FishFlavoredSoda said:
You know....let's dissect what the OP's point was:

  • Used to pay for higher class service and received it
  • Paid for higher class service and is not receiving it anymore

Here's how we've replied to the OP so far:

  • I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad
WHAT? This is not serious right? Tell me it isn't!
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
Hopefully this will clear things up for you. The Contemporary has 1,401 rooms. I thought since that is a high number it should have more buses, because The All Stars have 1,960 rooms at each resort for a total of 5,760 rooms, Pop has 2,880 rooms, CBR has 2,112 rooms & POFQ has 1,008 rooms and Por has 1,024 for a total of 2,032 rooms. I realize the total amount of rooms for the Contemporary maybe smaller then the other Resorts I have mentioned, but I thought since it's over 1000 rooms it should warent more buses. I guess I was wrong, but my point was because it's up there in total of number of rooms, that's why I thought they should have more buses. Also it since it shares with the Polynesian, Grand Floridian & sometimes Wilderness Lodge it should be a reason for more buses, since those guests are waiting on the same buses as Contemporary guests & yes I do know each Resort is different, so no need to point that out to me.

1000 rooms is not a lot for a Disney resort. That said, maybe you should contact Disney and tell them that considering the price you pay for a room, you should get better transportation. It WOULD make sense. However the OP wasnt complaining about not getting enough buses or having to wait too long for them, she was complaining about stopping a few steps away from the "real" bus stop.
 
dreamergirl78 said:
Are you going to seriously argue with everything people say? I know what I wrote and what I wrote is exactly how it happened and what I was TOLD by a Disney bus driver. And I never saw a sign that said 20 minutes. In fact it seemed as though our little value busses were there every 10 minutes or so. I hardly ever saw CMs by the bus ques.
Tell me where I said no your are completly wrong? I said you maybe right, but I don't think the cameras had anything to do with it, because this is the 1st time hearing about that. I guess this is another example of Disboards members who don't care what your opinion is if you don't agree with the bulk of the responses.

Also for the record at the Contemporary bus station when going Disney MGM Studios, Animal Kingdom & Downtown Disney there is a sign it says buses run every 20 minutes, so that is why I mentioned the 20 minute rule. I don't have a picture of the sign to prove I am right, but I know what I saw & that is what the sign said.
 
It seem this phrase I said is generating a lot of buzz:

I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad

First things first: I'm poor. I can't afford a presidential suite or anything above poor man's room. But, if someone can afford it, good for them. However, I am not gonna chime in and be like...uh..dude, you know you can save sooo much money for more fun stuff if you don't go use the presidential suite?

Do you know why people choose the presidential suite? Because their one hour salary can buy them someone's life for one day. You probably know these people. They're called "boss". They buy your life for one day at a time. Some can even afford to pay $1000 a day to hundreds of people. The amount of money these people make can pay for the presidential suite x 1520825. The last thing they are worrying about is how much money they could save. They got bigger problem, folks. They're freakin' seeking help on how to SPEND their money! They got so much, it falls out of their toilet when they flush it!

So, when we start writing people off as snobs because of what they pay for and expect, it's kind of telling me that we think we're some sort of substandard and need to pound these people down a few notches in order to feel better about ourselves.
 
CR Resort Fan 4 Life said:
Tell me where I said no your are completly wrong? I said you maybe right, but I don't think the cameras had anything to do with it, because this is the 1st time hearing about that. I guess this is another example of Disboards members who don't care what your opinion is if you don't agree with the bulk of the responses.

Also for the record at the Contemporary bus station when going Disney MGM Studios, Animal Kingdom & Downtown Disney there is a sign it says buses run every 20 minutes, so that is why I mentioned the 20 minute rule. I don't have a picture of the sign to prove I am right, but I know what I saw & that is what the sign said.

I had always heard that buses usually run at least every 20 minutes but during peak times they run more often than that.
That has also been my experience.

And yes, Disney did install a new bus dispatch system this spring to make the wait times less and the buses more efficient.
I did see the cameras at the All Stars last month.

Look for them by the (*EDIT *DTD instead of CR)
bus stop when you go in December.

dreamergirl78 said:
.....Think about this. Why would they waste time and money to have busses constantly circling if there is nobody there waiting for the bus? We were at DTD and there were 2 resort ques that had people in them. Not once did I see a bus come by for any other resort other than the ones that had people waiting for them! My theory makes perfect sense to me, especially after the information I was given.

The bus stops at the values have different lines and loading for the different parks. So the cameras will help dispatch at the values. Same with DTD there are different bus stops for the different resorts.
The CR and other deluxes and mods most likely will not have the cameras
because the camera would only see a group waiting for bus but could not distinguish which bus or buses they were waiting for.
 
FishFlavoredSoda said:
So, when we start writing people off as snobs because of what they pay for and expect, it's kind of telling me that we think we're some sort of substandard and need to pound these people down a few notches in order to feel better about ourselves.

I feel pretty good about myself generally and dont need to "pound" anyone to achieve this. Once again you are missing the point that when you pay for a deluxe resort you get the following :

- a better, bigger room
- better restaurants on property
- better service from the hotel staff (no turndown service at ASMO!)
- in some resorts, boat or monorail access to parks
- better pools and generally much "prettier" surroundings

It does not include better transportation and NOWHERE on the official Disney site do they claim that it does. So I dont know why the OP expected it.
Actally anyone can use the bus, any bus, at WDW,whether they are guests or not and even when they dont have WDW tickets.

That's how it is at Disney. Same for EMH (doesnt matter which resort you're from you get the same perks) or YOAMD - everybody treated the same no matter how much they paid to enter the park.

If someone is rich, has money to throw away, and wants to BUY THEIR MAGIC,they should go to Universal.

And BTW this is the reason why we decided on a "cheaper" hotel for our trip. Not because we cant afford a moderate or deluxe, but because there just arent enough extras to justify the costs. I dont see the point of paying $300 more a night just to have a bigger room,when the only thing I'll be doing in it is showering and sleeping. My suitcase really doesnt care what resort it'll be staying in.
 
minnie61650 said:
I had always heard that buses usually run at least every 20 minutes but during peak times they run more often than that.
That has also been my experience.

And yes, Disney did install a new bus dispatch system this spring to make the wait times less and the buses more efficient.
I did see the cameras at the All Stars last month.

Look for them by the CR bus stop when you go in December.
Since you said they installed these camera's this past spring, I should mention that when I was at the Contemporary in August I did not see them. Maybe they have not got around to installing them yet, but I will look out for them in December when I am there.
 
FishFlavoredSoda said:
It seem this phrase I said is generating a lot of buzz:

I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad

First things first: I'm poor. I can't afford a presidential suite or anything above poor man's room. But, if someone can afford it, good for them. However, I am not gonna chime in and be like...uh..dude, you know you can save sooo much money for more fun stuff if you don't go use the presidential suite?

Do you know why people choose the presidential suite? Because their one hour salary can buy them someone's life for one day. You probably know these people. They're called "boss". They buy your life for one day at a time. Some can even afford to pay $1000 a day to hundreds of people. The amount of money these people make can pay for the presidential suite x 1520825. The last thing they are worrying about is how much money they could save. They got bigger problem, folks. They're freakin' seeking help on how to SPEND their money! They got so much, it falls out of their toilet when they flush it!

So, when we start writing people off as snobs because of what they pay for and expect, it's kind of telling me that we think we're some sort of substandard and need to pound these people down a few notches in order to feel better about ourselves.

I could care less how much someone wants to spend on vacation.
People enjoy diffent things on vacation.
Some guests love pampering some do not.
Some love the rich feeling the GF gives them.
Some guests love the larger than life icons at the values .
Others think they are tackey.

Now since I choose to stay at the values you might think ........

I'm poor and am jealous of people who can afford to pay for more while I am playing the victim of a hate crime because it makes me feel better to think that rich people are attacking me, which makes them represent themselves as evil making me, the poor person, not look so bad.

Wrong!

I can well afford to stay at any of Disney's hotels.
My husband owns a multimillion dollar business.
We pay a lot more in taxes each year than the average family makes in a year.
We have a 5 bedroom, 4 bathroom lakefront home with a large inground heated pool. We have 2 boats and a Jet Ski. We put 3 children through college and our youngest will graduate in December. We have 3 more years on our mortgage otherwise we are debt free. Does that make me any better than any of Disney's other guests whether they stay value, mod or deluxe? NO! More fortunate than some maybe but not better.
When I am at Disney I enjoy going to the parks, shopping, dining and just exploring. I'm not spending a lot of time relaxing in my room. I don't need to be pampered or have my ego stroked.

Some guests enjoy the pampering and the deluxe resorts.
That is fine and of course they should choose the kind of vacation they would like.
They worked hard for their vacation money and should spend it the way want to.
Sure I can well afford a deluxe resort but just because I can afford it does not mean I want to stay at one. I can choose to stay at a value
if I want to.

Yes, I fall into higher income who enjoys staying at a Value.

I chose to stay at All Star Music for 3 main reasons.

1. I enjoy the theming at the All Stars. All Star Music is also is the quietest of the values. Generally less people stay there and there are more seniors and couples and less young children because children enjoy the themes of the other values more.

2. The bus service at the All Stars is very good. Since I use an ECV good bus transportation is essential. :moped:

3. The entry door at the values and Mods is at an angle and are much more Handicap friendly.
I am able to get in and out of my All Star room unassisted. This way my husband can go and play a round of golf and know I can leave my room to relax by the pool if I choose.

The Deluxe rooms have a narrow hall with the bath on one side and closet on the other. I cannot open the door from the inside unassisted.

Have fun at Disney everyone!
 
marivaid said:
If someone is rich, has money to throw away, and wants to BUY THEIR MAGIC,they should go to Universal.
Uhhhhhh.... :confused:

And BTW this is the reason why we decided on a "cheaper" hotel for our trip. Not because we cant afford a moderate or deluxe, but because there just arent enough extras to justify the costs. I dont see the point of paying $300 more a night just to have a bigger room,when the only thing I'll be doing in it is showering and sleeping. My suitcase really doesnt care what resort it'll be staying in.

I think you just completely missed the boat. That's the point. There are people who have enough money that it's worth it to have that extra room. To not feel cramped. Living a certain lifestyle one gets used to certain aspects (larger rooms, bigger beds, quieter resorts, etc.) It's worth the $300/night more or whatever for THEM. Why begrudge them that?
 
i<3Disney said:
It looks like you stroked it yourself very nicely :rolleyes1


:rotfl2:

too cute.
:rotfl: :rotfl2: :rotfl:
That is funny.
But I always remember I am not better than anyone else. :thumbsup2
 
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