Park Bus Stop Unfairness....

[kvogel11202]

What question ? I didnt see any real question. I saw someone very upset that her $$$ didnt buy her a better bus service, on top of a better room and monorail access,just to name a few. She said it was UNFAIR.It was such an injustice that because of these peasants from the cheap hotels she had to walk a few more steps to the entrance.

She was rude and snobby and it's no wonder people got offended.

OK, quick before I go- she asked if anyone else encountered this, so she did ask a question.

 

[ntsammy5]

Funniest thread in a long time. LMAO

 

[mickaholic4077]

Nothing I said was meant as a slam on those who could not afford to stay at the Deluxe resort, it was a simple statement of why I am willing to pay that price, if you are not able to, that's not anything I care about remotely. You took a simple statement and made it into a slam...and then totally insulted me. I think you are the one who needs to maybe chill out.

Sorry,kvogel,you're the one that's the snob and should chill.

 

[snowwhite84]

What an odd thing to debate.

On a side note, we are staying at Pop for the first time in 2 days, based solely on the fact that I think they have the best bus service. Whenever we're waiting for a bus, it always seems like 5 come by for the Pop before any others. I'm going to test my theory!

 

[joshsmom]

What an odd thing to debate.

On a side note, we are staying at Pop for the first time in 2 days, based solely on the fact that I think they have the best bus service. Whenever we're waiting for a bus, it always seems like 5 come by for the Pop before any others. I'm going to test my theory!

Have a GREAT trip and say Hi to Mickey for us!!!

 

[marivaid]

OK, quick before I go- she asked if anyone else encountered this, so she did ask a question.

Yeah, AFTER she was done ranting. Either way it's not really what she said it's the way she said it.

Example. A few days ago I asked a question about YOAMD. I wanted to know why international visitors werent eligible to win prizes for YOAMD. Now if I had posted something like "This is unfair,I pay just as much or even MORE than you Americans do so I should get the same or even better prizes" well you can bet I would have had some pretty nasty answers. Instead I asked nicely and several people answer (again,nicely).Someone even took the time to PM me and give me a bunch of info and tips!

I havent been around the DIS long but I did notice that the only times there is a "fight" it's because someone didnt think before typing.

 

[snowwhite84]

Thanks Joshsmom!

 

[minnie61650]

For the poster who mentioned better bus service for the "deluxe" resorts, you couldn't be more off base.

We just stayed at the GF and remarked on the poor bus service with long waits and shared bus service with the CR & Poly. POP gets its own bus as do the mods and the value buses seemed to be coming by twice as often as a GF/CR/Poly bus did.

When I first visited WDW I didn't understand why the driver dropped us off somewhere other than "our" bus stop. Then I started coming to the DIS and read why it happened. Perhaps the OP didn't understand that the drivers might be dropping you off from WL, but picking up folks staying at POP or somewhere else. Perhaps they thought that by paying a higher price for accomodations, that their transportation to a closer bus stop was included, even though that is not usually the case. Can we give them the benefit of the doubt?

Yes, I agree that is most likely what the OP thought.
I have had the bad bus service at other resorts.
Most of the Deluxes have another mode of transpiration to 1 or 2 parks but the bus transportation seems to be lacking for the other parks from the deluxes.

That is one of the reasons that even though I can well afford to stay at any of Disney's deluxes I choose to stay at All Star Music.

I chose to stay at All Star Music for 3 main reasons.

1. I enjoy the theming at the All Stars. All Star Music is also is the quietest of the values. Generally less people stay there and there are more seniors and couples and less young children because children enjoy the themes of the other values more.

2. The bus service at the All Stars is very good. Since I use an ECV good bus transportation is essential.

3. The entry at the values and Mods are much more Handicap friendly.
I am able to get in and out of my All Star room unassisted. This way my husband can go and play a round of golf and know I can leave my room to relax by the pool if I choose.

The Deluxe rooms have a narrow hall with the bath on one side and closet on the other. I cannot open the door from the inside unassisted.

*EDIT to the OP
I think most of the MGM buses drop the guests near the back area.
I think that is due more to crowd control than anything else. If I remember correctly the bus pick up area at the MGM is kind of curved.
Guests leaving MGM may need to turn right to get to their bus stops or they
might go straight ahead to catch their bus.

If I am remembering correctly then if the busses dropped some of guests off at the curved area those guest would need to turn left to get to the main gate and the guests going to and the guests returning from would be crossing paths and children could easily get separated. By dropping guests off at the back of the bus stops areas the guests have a straight shot heading to the main gate.
Just an educated guess.

 

[RedFamilyLuvDisney]

Seriously people! You are arguing about bus stop! Seriously? Seriously? Really, who pays attention where you are being dropped off? I don't even know where we are being dropped off. We should just all be thankful that this bus service is free...

This deluxe, moderate and value arguement is ridiculous.

 

[kittythepoohbear]

I have stayed at both mods. and values and don't think I have ever been dropped off at my bus stop arriving at the park. I believe this is just how the buses operate. To the OP, as I understand it, the only transportation perks that come with staying Deluxe are the non-bus options. Other than that, everything is fair game since, as other posters have stated, the bus stops are arranged in the order the resorts where built. Hope this answered your question! Now let's go back to playing nice.

 

[Vickie46]

lets move on or lock this thread.. this is really silly! We are s people...

 

[ppiew]

When we were at WL we took the BOAT from the MK - no sweat - 15 min tops.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I don't see where the OP says it ruined her vacation- just that it was frustrating. I can see why it would frustrate someone. Your paying $300 + per night and your going to be inconvenienced for someone who is paying a lot less? It's supposed to make this easier for you when you spend the extra money. I know that upsets the Value Resort lovers (nothing against it- just not for me) but it's a fact.

Couple of interesting issues you bring up.
First, let's say the average room contains three people at WL. Eighteen people waiting for a bus represents six rooms. Six times $300 is, well, $1,800.
Now let's say the average room at Pop also contains three people. There are 54 of them waiting for a bus, or eighteen Guest roomsful. Eighteen times $100 is, well, $1,800.
But the bus routing/stopping isn't based on that - Disney generally uses the common-sense method of having the driver stop where it's most convenient for the driver and bus. Why have the driver pull all the way up to slot 2, then have to leave and circle around even the most minimal route and come back to slot 13 - when you can have the driver let out passengers at slot 13 and board other passengers the instant the bus is empty?

However at the time I never thought about & after reading this post, maybe WDW should think about how the Resort bus sections are numbered. In the end we missed the bus by a matter of seconds because just before leaving my Dad & I stopped into to look at a photo that was taken by a photopass Cast Member

Okay, first, Disney DOES think about how the Resort bus sections are numbered, but even more importantly, how they are assigned. I wasn't on the bus that dropped you off, but I'm 100% sure the driver announced which stop number is assigned to the Contemporary's buses specifically so Guests will know where to wait when they want to return to the resort. In addition to that, there are signs both as Guests approach the bus area indicating the direction in which to head for various resort buses, and there are signs overhead with the name of the resorts AT the bus pickup area. Now, in all fairness, you chose to do something other than determine and head directly for your bus stop

While I didn't appreciate the elitist attitude of the OP I think it is wrong to say that upgraded transportation isn't part of the deluxe resort perks. First the transportation options grow with each upgrade of hotel class. Lower priced hotels don't have as many transportation options.

Well, sure they don't (although Port Orleans has more options than the other Moderates, and the same transportation options that SSR and OKW do ). But I think the issue a number of posters have with the original post is that the person seems frustrated over having to walk a couple of hundred feet further than she/he would have if the WL bus had let them out at the WL stop. That really does give the impression of, "I paid more for my room, I shouldn't have to walk as far as those Value resort people", whether that was the OP's intent or not.

You whipper snappers. I remember going to WDW in snow 6 feet thick, uphill both ways when I was younger.

You forgot barefoot, and having to experience the attractions using a kerosene lantern because thar wern't none o' that ee-lectricity stuff that they haves nowadays

Nothing I said was meant as a slam on those who could not afford to stay at the Deluxe resort, it was a simple statement of why I am willing to pay that price, if you are not able to, that's not anything I care about remotely.

Why do you assume people stay in the values because they can't afford a Deluxe resort?

Ooh, good catch! The opposite viewpoint of 'I am willing to pay that price' is 'you are not willing to pay that price. It's NOT 'you are not able to pay...' Now, THAT'S elitist, snobby and, well, just plain rude.

I choose to spend my money on a Deluxe resort because I want service, the OP obviously had the nerve to not realise that the Value Resorts should have the best of everything and us "snobs" who choose to spend our vacation money on a nicer resort should just hire a sherpa to get us to the parks

Not at all. Aside from that it's not where one stays but rather one's attitude that seems to be the issue - the OP is frustrated over having to walk from the Pop bus stop to whatever park, instead of from the WL bus stop to that park. Sherpa? If you need a sherpa to guide you 200 feet, go for it. The rest of us will just follow the provided signs - or the crowds - to the park entrance

Seriously people! You are arguing about bus stop! Seriously? Seriously? Really, who pays attention where you are being dropped off?

Um, the original poster? I know I don't pay attention. Several times I heard the driver say something about "When you want to get back to Pop Century, go to bus stop number whatever". I never noticed where, in relation to that, we were let out. It was ALWAYS adjacent to the correct park, so I was happy.

 

[dizprincess717]

I posted on this thread earlier, but I feel the need to post some more of my opinions since I just read the entire thread now.

First off, I worked at Disney as a CP for 4 months. To be quite honest, on my days off when my friends and I would go play in the parks, we would "resort hop" and we'd call that fun. I have been in every WDW hotel lobby and have taken many busses from the hotels to parks. And let me tell you, from what I have encountered, those staying at the Deluxe resorts were the first to complain about the slow bus transportation, standing, and strollers. Those staying at Moderate and Value resorts complained a little bit, but they were just so excited to be there. This theory can't be held to all guests, I'm just saying that I heard a lot more complaints from those guests staying at Deluxe hotels.

What purpose does a hotel serve? Well, to most who pay to go play in the parks, the hotel serves as a place to sleep, shower and brush your teeth. My family was fortunate enough to stay at the WL twice and once during Christmas! Never once did I complain that since I was "staying at a Duluxe hotel during Christmas we should be dropped off first."

I loved reading what previous posters said about segregating on the busses. That's exactly how I felt after reading the OP. So since I stayed at the Campground, which is the cheapest, shall I just walk to and from the parks?

Face facts, OP. Disney World is TWICE the size of Manhattan. The amount of busses they have is amazing. The cost is even more amazing. Because WDW is twice the size of Manhattan, you'd expect to do some walking. Heaven forbid that it's an extra 50 steps or so from one bus stop to the other.

But let's not forget another thing...

How many people do you see standing in line for the Value resorts compared to standing in the Deluxe resorts? Value resorts have MORE ROOMS, therefore their bus stops might be closer and/or have more busses running!

The OP even said "it may seem a bit snobbish" and, to me, that's exactly how it came off. To be complaining about a few extra steps when you're in WDW??? Where millions of children from the Make A Wish Foundation have deemed the appropriate place to go???

I'll tell you, after working there and seeing the many different walks of life I am so thankful that I got to stay at WL. And I am even MORE thankful that I got to go to Disney World on vacation 6 times on vacation.

To be complaining about walking distances (when you're already putting the miles on), people walking slow (who doesn't want to take in the ambiance of WDW?!), and strollers (this is a FAMILY place!!!) is just petty. There are bigger things to worry about while at Disney World. Like where the heck is the Dole Whip place...

 

[Monte Cristo]

lets move on or lock this thread.. this is really silly! We are s people...

Agreed.

 

[outlander]

Agreed.

I'll third that.

 

[goofy4tink]

Good for you- spend your money on whatever you want, but don't criticize me because I choose to spend my money on a nice hotel - oh and we do the parks and mostly TS meals, and my children have plenty of spending money, but I'm in no means wealthy, I don't live a lavish lifestyle, I just choose this as an important part of my vacation. Income doesn't always dictate accomodations, again, I don't care where you stay, I was commenting on why I choose the resort I choose, as it had everything to do with what the OP was saying. People need to move on from the resort issue. Vacation away and enjoy your trips to WDW, I do. I was replying to those who criticised and attacked me for suggesting that spending more money for better service was snobbish.

Again....you are not paying for better bus service at the deluxe resorts. I'm sorry if you think you are deserving of better bus service there. Please note....I own DVC at BWV, I stay at POP a lot, I have stayed at all levels of resorts in WDW. Staying at a deluxe, a true deluxe, will get you 'improved' options for getting to a park ie..For MK...GF/Polynesian you take a monorail or a boat. CR you either walk or take the monorail. Epcot...BW/YC/BC all enable you to walk there, same with MGM. No bus service.
If you look at AKL and WL you will see that they are actually less money than the above mentioned deluxe resorts. Why? Fewer options in getting to the parks. You have to take the bus, with the exception of WL which does have a boat, but it can take awhile.
I am not making this a deluxe vs value thing. I pay extra at the deluxes for good table service restaurants, great pool theming/slides, easy access to a particular park, larger rooms...that kind of thing. But never is it predicated on the bus service. I still maintain that the worst bus service I have had to date, going and coming to/from the parks, is at the deluxe resorts. There is nothing deluxe about the buses to the deluxe resorts. Sure, the bus stops can be closer at the parks. But, that's not what most of us are paying deluxe prices for...especially since at some of the parks the deluxes are further down the line than the other resorts.

Here's hoping that the mods for this board will move this to either Resorts or Transportation...this is where it truly belongs.

 

[letterdavidman]

After reading this thread, could anyone seriously be confused as to why the CMs over at StupidGuestTricks.com view the DISers with an equal mix of trepidation and contempt?

 

[Madi100]

The internet is a wonderful place. We treat each other in a way that if our mothers heard, they'd slap us silly. If this was a face to face conversation I wonder if half of the comments would be made.

We've always stayed at value resorts. We stayed at POR last time, and we would much rather save the money and stay at the values. At POR I don't even remember the location of the bus stops, just that there were A LOT of people in wheelchairs. Enough that it got a little frustrating waiting as long as we had to. And before this topic turns to flaming ME, I know how lucky I am not to have to be in a wheelchair. But at the end of a long day, you just want to be on that bus.

And that's where the distance matters. I never thought it was just luck that at most locations the more you paid for a room the closer your resort is to the park (bus-stop). I know that with staying at the ASMo that I'm not as close. When we go this time and we are staying at Saratoga Springs, I'm assuming that at most locations we aren't going to have to walk as far as the people staying at the value resorts.

And for the OP for dropping off in the morning I find that odd, because staying at the value resorts many times we've had a bus driver drop us off closer to the main gate than at our regular spot, because it was closer and not as far to walk and there was no one to pick up.

 

[DVCconvert]

The internet is a wonderful place. We treat each other in a way that if our mothers heard, they'd slap us silly.

Ah...but these days that's called 'empowerment'...how? I'm not really sure. I guess it's 'the rush' of being empowered by the percieved lack of emotional responsibility to be accountable.

Oh - and mother would have been right!