Over 500 restaurants in WDW. Why???

[YorkieMommyKandis]

I don't see anything wrong with an adults only restaurant or "quiet" restaurant (adults being expected to follow the rules as well of course).

The only problem I usually have with kids in restaurants is when they are actually running around the entire restaurant making all sorts of noise. I know if I acted like that when I was little someone would have said something to me!!

Oh, and when you are sitting at a table close to children and one of them is just fascinated with you. I have been stared at through entire meals before. Sorta cute though too.

 

[spiceycat]

now a 'quiet' restuarant is a great ideal!!!

 

[spiceycat]

Oh, and when you are sitting at a table close to children and one of them is just fascinated with you. I have been stared at through entire meals before. Sorta cute though too.

I start entertaining the child - peek a boo - or anything - you might be surprised at how fast the parent will move the child.

okay I am

 

[PghLybrt]

You have never been in a Southern church... right.... Love is not mentioned - except for Christ's love.... otherwise it is almost a forbidden subject. hey the ministers don't even talk about it.

you are a very brave lady - that is something others should learn to say what you feel not what others think are right.

you go girl!!!

I don't even know the words in which to say thank you

 

[DisneydaveCT]

I too would love to see one or two adults only restaurants. And, I don't see why this is such a big deal. A while back I posted a similar question on a different board asking about an adults-only resort, like something that would cater mostly to honeymooners or adults travelling without kids. There were several people who took offense. Still don't get it.

OK, how would you feel if you were traveling at WDW for your only trip and you heard about this great restaurant...fantastic menu, great CM's, wonderful decor and entertainment...a must see. Once you hear about this great restaurant, you get there and the CM's say "We're sorry you don't have any children with you this evening, you can't come in." How would you feel? Would you think that you are still at WDW? I'm sure that is how many parents would feel if their children were banned from a Disney restaurant.

My parents taught us at an early age how to behave in restaurant, whether family style restaurants or something more upscale. My daughter has been raised in the same fashion. She has been going to the local country club since she was about 6 weeks old. If she misbehaved, she was taken out of the restaurant without her meal. She quickly learned how to behave in public.

I would be against banning well-behaved children from restaurants.

Instead of banning children, why not limit or eliminate the children's menu, so the restaurant is less attractive to families?

 

[kstinw19]

I flew Southwest back from Orlando last year on a Sunday, we had self segregation going on the plane!

The pre-boards with the 4 year old as well as Mom, Dad, Grandma, Grandpa, Aunt Sally, Uncle Harry, and Cousins It and Thing sat themselves all within the first few rows of the plane. The last 5 rows or so ended up the single adult passengers in their 20's and 30's. We only saw the kids when they came back from the bathroom, all got along, and became the peanut gallery who responded to every flight attendent pun with full out sarcastic remarks.

I'm all now in favor of adults only seating.

Not to digress too much, but that is what I like about SW's seating policy...I can get on first with my brood and then others can CHOOSE whether they sit near us or not. And if you do get stuck with us b/c it's one of the last seats, I don't feel to bad b/c they were the last to arrive at the airport anyways.

 

[kstinw19]

you know I use to think this too....

we went in chicken filet - at 9:30pm - this place closes at 10pm... guess what it has been a long time since I have seem that many children....

big families generally 2 parents 3 to 4 kids - the oldest child in the group was around 6 - the youngest a few months old.... might have been 6 groups of these families sometimes a grandparent was included.

now I didn't say anything, one little boy was so wired that he played hide and seek with me for an hour.....

but I guess this generation doesn't believe in a bedtime hour. I hope they do before the kids start school.... but that 6 year old.

oh before you say something - I asked - no they were not traveling together - they all seemed to live in the area.

Really? I don't get that. I have an almost 6, 4 and 1 year old and I can't imagine taking them to dinner past 7 p.m. ever. I don't think my nerves could take it as I would be so worried about the other patrons. That being said, I wouldn't take them to the upscale restaurants in the first place. I really love CG and wanted to try Flying Fish but I won't subject other patrons to my kids (good kids but they get restless in restaurants...just talking loud but they know not to get out of their seats) so I will wait until I go on an "adult only" trip someday.

Of course at Disney there are a few "special nights" that I will let them stay up late...to watch the fireworks, go down to the arcade, watch a movie in bed, but DEFINITELY not go to a TS restaurant.

 

[Cinderella16]

I completely agree that there should a be few adult only resturants on Disney's property.
Not that this would ever happen, but, I would also LOVE to see a couple's only Disney resort kinda like a Sandals, that would be great for Honeymooners, people celebrating their anniversaries, or just couples that want to escape from everyday life and spend some time together.
Does anyone know which resort is the best for couples?

 

[Carys]

OK, how would you feel if you were traveling at WDW for your only trip and you heard about this great restaurant...fantastic menu, great CM's, wonderful decor and entertainment...a must see. Once you hear about this great restaurant, you get there and the CM's say "We're sorry you don't have any children with you this evening, you can't come in." How would you feel?

This isn't quite a parallel, because it's easy to rent a babysitter but not so easy to rent a kid.

WDW is for everyone - but not every single thing in WDW is designed with every single person in mind. However, perhaps a compromise would be to have adult only nights at a particular restaurant, or at a specific restaurant having no reservations beginning after 7pm that include persons under the age of 16?

There is always a danger with trying to stereotype populations, such as saying there needs to be adult only restaurants because kids are noisy, uncontrolled, etc. I don't think people are saying that though. While there are many well brought up or naturally docile children in the world, all it takes is one or two kids in a restaurant (where there may be 100 well behaved children) having a melt down or behaving without good manners to ruin a meal the adults sans kids at the next table might be having.

People requesting an adults only meal aren't trying to impose their wish for a quiet meal on the entire population of WDW, they're just asking for one or two places. They're not demanding all kids behave perfectly for their own comfort. They're saying that they understand kids will sometimes be kids, and that's ok - but give us another option for those occasions in which our 'perfect' evening calls for the melt-down factor to be removed. WDW is the place of dreams, and not everyone's dream is to hold hands while junior from the table across the room Wants To Eat Cheerios NOW!

I think someone has already made the point that in some situations, it's not the behavior of a kid - it's that people want an adult atmosphere, where there aren't ten year old boys at the next table when you're having a romantic moment with your other half. It doesn't matter how well behaved a child is in this situation.

Please understand, we're not kid-bashing or trying to make those who prefer to always eat with kids feel like second class citizens. We have a valid reasonable perspective that some of the time it's nice to have an adults only atmosphere, and it would be nice if Disney catered for those sorts of occasions as well as for the many styles of dining they have already provided.

 

[Hixski]

This isn't quite a parallel, because it's easy to rent a babysitter but not so easy to rent a kid.

WDW is for everyone - but not every single thing in WDW is designed with every single person in mind. However, perhaps a compromise would be to have adult only nights at a particular restaurant, or at a specific restaurant having no reservations beginning after 7pm that include persons under the age of 16?

There is always a danger with trying to stereotype populations, such as saying there needs to be adult only restaurants because kids are noisy, uncontrolled, etc. I don't think people are saying that though. While there are many well brought up or naturally docile children in the world, all it takes is one or two kids in a restaurant (where there may be 100 well behaved children) having a melt down or behaving without good manners to ruin a meal the adults sans kids at the next table might be having.

People requesting an adults only meal aren't trying to impose their wish for a quiet meal on the entire population of WDW, they're just asking for one or two places. They're not demanding all kids behave perfectly for their own comfort. They're saying that they understand kids will sometimes be kids, and that's ok - but give us another option for those occasions in which our 'perfect' evening calls for the melt-down factor to be removed. WDW is the place of dreams, and not everyone's dream is to hold hands while junior from the table across the room Wants To Eat Cheerios NOW!

I think someone has already made the point that in some situations, it's not the behavior of a kid - it's that people want an adult atmosphere, where there aren't ten year old boys at the next table when you're having a romantic moment with your other half. It doesn't matter how well behaved a child is in this situation.

Please understand, we're not kid-bashing or trying to make those who prefer to always eat with kids feel like second class citizens. We have a valid reasonable perspective that some of the time it's nice to have an adults only atmosphere, and it would be nice if Disney catered for those sorts of occasions as well as for the many styles of dining they have already provided.

Very well said. This is why I started this thread on the adults board. I thought there would be more folks willing to say "yes", a couple of adult only restaurants would be nice. I have personally seen someone trying to propose just as a couple of children at the next table started screaming. Really took the romance out of the moment for those folks. And the parents of the children just let them scream. At least the CM told them they were making it difficult for the man next to them to propose. It took another 5 or 10 minutes but they did take the children outside.

Thank you stating the obvious that some folks just don't seem to grasp.

 

[DisneydaveCT]

This isn't quite a parallel, because it's easy to rent a babysitter but not so easy to rent a kid.

WDW is for everyone - but not every single thing in WDW is designed with every single person in mind. However, perhaps a compromise would be to have adult only nights at a particular restaurant, or at a specific restaurant having no reservations beginning after 7pm that include persons under the age of 16?

There is always a danger with trying to stereotype populations, such as saying there needs to be adult only restaurants because kids are noisy, uncontrolled, etc. I don't think people are saying that though. While there are many well brought up or naturally docile children in the world, all it takes is one or two kids in a restaurant (where there may be 100 well behaved children) having a melt down or behaving without good manners to ruin a meal the adults sans kids at the next table might be having.

People requesting an adults only meal aren't trying to impose their wish for a quiet meal on the entire population of WDW, they're just asking for one or two places. They're not demanding all kids behave perfectly for their own comfort. They're saying that they understand kids will sometimes be kids, and that's ok - but give us another option for those occasions in which our 'perfect' evening calls for the melt-down factor to be removed. WDW is the place of dreams, and not everyone's dream is to hold hands while junior from the table across the room Wants To Eat Cheerios NOW!

I think someone has already made the point that in some situations, it's not the behavior of a kid - it's that people want an adult atmosphere, where there aren't ten year old boys at the next table when you're having a romantic moment with your other half. It doesn't matter how well behaved a child is in this situation.

Please understand, we're not kid-bashing or trying to make those who prefer to always eat with kids feel like second class citizens. We have a valid reasonable perspective that some of the time it's nice to have an adults only atmosphere, and it would be nice if Disney catered for those sorts of occasions as well as for the many styles of dining they have already provided.

I disagree, both are a form of discrimination.

And for a company that reaches out to the kid in all of us, I think it would be a major PR mistake to create adult only restaurants.

Let me know the next time you are at WDW so I can send the rude adults to your restaurant. Then let me hear how you will control that bad behaviour.

 

[UrsulasShadow]

OK, how would you feel if you were traveling at WDW for your only trip and you heard about this great restaurant...fantastic menu, great CM's, wonderful decor and entertainment...a must see. Once you hear about this great restaurant, you get there and the CM's say "We're sorry you don't have any children with you this evening, you can't come in." How would you feel? Would you think that you are still at WDW? I'm sure that is how many parents would feel if their children were banned from a Disney restaurant.

My parents taught us at an early age how to behave in restaurant, whether family style restaurants or something more upscale. My daughter has been raised in the same fashion. She has been going to the local country club since she was about 6 weeks old. If she misbehaved, she was taken out of the restaurant without her meal. She quickly learned how to behave in public.

I would be against banning well-behaved children from restaurants.

Instead of banning children, why not limit or eliminate the children's menu, so the restaurant is less attractive to families?

There are areas that children are NOT allowed in WDW...namely Jellyrolls and some PI establishments. True, they're clubs, not restaurants, but it's not really setting a new precedent by limiting where children are allowed.
This is one of the reasons why I think an "adults only" section of restaurant should be established. You can't use the argument that the food and decor are any different in that section. Maybe it would work better if it were set up as a lounge area.

 

[tiggermei]

Isn't Victoria and Albert's adults only?

 

[tarheelmjfan]

I'm one of the parents who doesn't see a problem with "adults only" restaurants, as long as they don't designate the best restaurants & remove the option of eating an upscale meal at each resort. My fear would be that they would automatically assume families wouldn't care as long as they left character meals & buffets as is. There's many families who don't eat at either of those places. For the resorts that have more than one nice, sit down restaurant, I don't see why one of them couldn't be adults only. This shouldn't be a problem in the DTD area either. I think blocked off "adults only" sections would be easier to implement though.

Even though I don't have a problem with the concept, I do have a problem with some of the replies.

This isn't quite a parallel, because it's easy to rent a babysitter but not so easy to rent a kid.

Most people think this defeats the purpose of a family vacation. Do you & your spouse go seperate ways, when it's time for dinner? It is the same. Our DS is as much a part of the family as my DH & I are. If someone wants to leave their kids with a babysitter at dinner, that's their business. My DH & I have always considered our family vacations to be an opportunity to spend quality time as a family.

I think someone has already made the point that in some situations, it's not the behavior of a kid - it's that people want an adult atmosphere, where there aren't ten year old boys at the next table when you're having a romantic moment with your other half. It doesn't matter how well behaved a child is in this situation.

This argument always bothers me the most. I can totally understand why a couple wouldn't want kids running around & being loud, when they're trying to share a nice meal together. However, I don't understand why an adult would want to do anything in a restaurant that would be inappropriate for a child to see. If a 10yo. boy is sitting there with his family minding his own business, there shouldn't be a reason you can't enjoy a romantic moment with your SO. On the other hand, if his presence bothers you, because you may want to do something too "R" rated for a 10 yo., most adults don't want to be exposed to that either. I would be very unhappy, if my DH & I were seated next to a couple who was behaving in a manner that wasn't appropriate for a 10 yo. to see. Most kids have already seen people hold hands & exchange an occasional kiss. It's not like seeing that would be earth shattering.

 

[Hixski]

Isn't Victoria and Albert's adults only?

No, people have written about seeing children in there. It is rare but they can bring children in.

 

[Hixski]

Most people think this defeats the purpose of a family vacation. Do you & your spouse go seperate ways, when it's time for dinner? It is the same. Our DS is as much a part of the family as my DH & I are. If someone wants to leave their kids with a babysitter at dinner, that's their business. My DH & I have always considered our family vacations to be an opportunity to spend quality time as a family.

The reason I started this thread is because my family vacation consists of myself and DH. We are in our mid forties. We love WDW. DCL has Palos and everyone seems to love that there is an adult only option. I would only like a couple quiet adult only restaurants. They don't have to be the "best" ones either. Just nice. That includes "hopefully" the obnoxious adults not wanting to be there either. But I have seen more melting down children at 9:00pm at restaurants than bad adults. I stated earlier that I watched someone trying to propose with children screaming next to them. What a memory for those folks. That memory is what makes me think there is a need for a couple restaurants. Or at least a section in a restaurant.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

The reason I started this thread is because my family vacation consists of myself and DH. We are in our mid forties. We love WDW. DCL has Palos and everyone seems to love that there is an adult only option. I would only like a couple quiet adult only restaurants. They don't have to be the "best" ones either. Just nice. That includes "hopefully" the obnoxious adults not wanting to be there either. But I have seen more melting down children at 9:00pm at restaurants than bad adults. I stated earlier that I watched someone trying to propose with children screaming next to them. What a memory for those folks. That memory is what makes me think there is a need for a couple restaurants. Or at least a section in a restaurant.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I objected to the notion that parents could just get a babysitter, if they wanted to eat at a certain restaurant. We don't even consider that as an option. Just as you wouldn't want to eat w/o your DH, we don't want to eat w/o our DS.

BTW, Palo being adult only does affect some people's decision to cruise on DCL. We won't cruise on their ships for that reason. I know others who feel the same. My feelings on that are the same at they are for WDW. If DCL would designate one of the regular restaurants as "adult only", I wouldn't have a problem with that. The fact that the only specialty restaurant is adults only keeps us from sailing on their ship. There are plenty of other cruise lines though, so it's not like I'm all upset about it.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

I have nothing against bringing children to V&A. However, I would expect any children brought there to be able to sit through a 2½ hour long dinner and not doing anything that will disturb any other Guests in the restaurant.

This means no infants crying (for more than 30 seconds before a parent takes the infant out) and no six year olds wandering/running around the restaurant. Not only is there no children's menu, but the full price of at least $100 (plus tax and tip) is charged for everyone.

 

[raspberrysharpei]

I had read this thread a few nights ago & just wanted to jump in with a few of my thoughts.
We are a married couple & chose not to have children, having said that, we generally vacation at adults only locations.
I just returned from a trip to WDW with my sister & her two children. During the time I was researching our trip I did come across some activities that had age restrictions, i.e. a Tea Party, a scavenger hunt.
So I guess if Disney can have age restrictions with some activities I do not think it would be unrealistic to think they could provide venues for the other side of the coin.
IMHO, if Disney could offer a few adults only restaurants & or fine dining options, (not to discriminate, just to accommodate) it might be easier to talk my hubby into a trip to the world.

 

[solgent]

I have three children and I would probably never eat at an adult-only restaurant, but I still think it's a pretty good idea for Disney to have such a place. Just like I don't eat meat, but I know other people do, so it's going to be on the menu for other people to choose and for me to not choose. I have no problem with that!

I think Disney tries hard to offer all sorts of experiences and environments so there's something for all guests to enjoy. So perhaps we will see this someday.