Over 500 restaurants in WDW. Why???

[PghLybrt]

No offense to you & the others in your group, but this is what I was referring to in one of my PP. We recently had our worst fine dining experience ever, due to a group of loud, "happy" adults. If there's going to be lots of noise anyway, why does it matter who's making it? My family's (DH, DS(14), & I) idea of a nice dinner includes enjoying our meal, while talking amongst ourselves about the food, our day, life, etc. We do not care nor do we want to know what is going on at the tables around us. If they can hear us or we can hear them, someone is being too loud & disruptive. My idea of the perfect "adult only" restaurant would have a nice quiet atmosphere, which is why I suggested earlier that tables for 2 or 4 would work best. It's great for a group to get together & have a blast. IMHO, a place where people are spending $200+ for 3 to dine isn't the place for that. As a side note, I wouldn't think there would be too many families with small kids dining at 10pm. If they are, they shouldn't be surprised when a group of adults in a "party friendly" restaurant get a little "happy". It was their choice to dine that late. JMO

None taken! I know that my group can be a handful, but we also know where its ok to have fun. Like at the ESPN club during a game…..seriously why would parents not expect it to be full of fans, drinking and talking up their team or down to the opposing team? As for California Grill….I want to have a adult time with my girlfriend, and some people (and I said some not all) have a huge problem with how appropriate it is to have 2 women together in front of “their” children. So in those instances its not about us being loud or even inappropriate behavior its just a matter that we are together in a public place. An adult only restaurant would solve some, not all, of those concerns for us.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

None taken! I know that my group can be a handful, but we also know where its ok to have fun. Like at the ESPN club during a game…..seriously why would parents not expect it to be full of fans, drinking and talking up their team or down to the opposing team? As for California Grill….I want to have a adult time with my girlfriend, and some people (and I said some not all) have a huge problem with how appropriate it is to have 2 women together in front of “their” children. So in those instances its not about us being loud or even inappropriate behavior its just a matter that we are together in a public place. An adult only restaurant would solve some, not all, of those concerns for us.

If people have a problem with either of the scenarios you mentioned, they're the one causing the problem. They would find something to complain about anywhere they went. The only thing I see making them happy would be private dining. Maybe we should be campaigning for seperate dining rooms to seat all judgemental people, & people who can't or won't control their kids in a section together. The judgemental people will have plenty to talk about & the oblivious parents won't care. The rest of us would be free to enjoy our meal.

 

[PghLybrt]

If people have a problem with either of the scenarios you mentioned, they're the one causing the problem. They would find something to complain about anywhere they went. The only thing I see making them happy would be private dining. Maybe we should be campaigning for seperate dining rooms to seat all judgemental people, & people who can't or won't control their kids in a section together. The judgemental people will have plenty to talk about & the oblivious parents won't care. The rest of us would be free to enjoy our meal.

Now that idea I like!

 

[wrldpossibility]

Well, I have three small kids, and I like the idea of sectioning off areas of a few establishments for adults only or vice versa. It appeals to me because sometimes a nicer meal sounds great, but DH and I worry about disturbing other guests (we DON'T ignore any bad behavior, and so it can be stressful trying to get through a nice meal and hoping our kids make it through without getting bored, etc.). We opt to skip places that we'd feel stressed in. So that would be great for us!

I agree it's not so much the age of the patron, but their behavior. I've put up with bad behavior from people of all ages.

 

[DanceRC28]

I definately think it would be a nice touch, even just a few restuarants would make a big difference. I love kids, I'm in school to be a teacher, and I can't wait to be a mom, but sometimes DH and I just don't want to deal with screaming children during dinner at the world

 

[GrumpyFan]

I too would love to see one or two adults only restaurants. And, I don't see why this is such a big deal. A while back I posted a similar question on a different board asking about an adults-only resort, like something that would cater mostly to honeymooners or adults travelling without kids. There were several people who took offense. Still don't get it.

 

[Hixski]

I too would love to see one or two adults only restaurants. And, I don't see why this is such a big deal. A while back I posted a similar question on a different board asking about an adults-only resort, like something that would cater mostly to honeymooners or adults travelling without kids. There were several people who took offense. Still don't get it.

That is why I started this thread on this board. The other thread on the restaurant board got nasty. The ones that took offense could not give any reason why a couple restaurants could not be adult only. They only wanted to make sure they could take their melting down 2 yr old to any restaurant they wanted to. Those folks were the ones that think WDW is only for the children.

 

[pezpam]

I'm the mom of a daughter (now 9) who has been taken to restaurants of all sorts since she was just a few days old, really. She behaves well (and was even quiet as a baby, though I was always ready to leave if she started getting loud) and is the type that winds up getting compliments from the very people who gave me the evil eye for bringing her in. That said, I can't see why an adults-only restaurant is such an offensive idea. So there's a restaurant or two we can't go to. Big deal. It's not like you're starved for choices at WDW or they're going to make the Pooh breakfast at CP adults-only. LOL.

 

[Disneyenthusiast]

If not a completely separate restaurant or two for adults, which I would love, how about having a cuple of nice restaurants only serve children under 10 or 12 until 7pm. You could figure most of the kids would be out by 8 or so. It seems like a resonable comprimise for Citricios and Yachtsman for example. Families with young children could dine a little earlier and those adults who chose to dine earlier would know what they would be facing. (I do have adult children, so I have been on the "other" side. We NEVER let our children run around or get loud and disruptive. If they did, one of us left.)

 

[spiceycat]

adult time with my girlfriend, and some people (and I said some not all) have a huge problem with how appropriate it is to have 2 women together in front of “their” children. So in those instances its not about us being loud or even inappropriate behavior its just a matter that we are together in a public place. An adult only restaurant would solve some, not all, of those concerns for us.

what exactly were you doing that cause the problem.

kissing is fine. hand holding is great.

but neckling or petting in public is NOT!!! I don't care who you are. that is what hotel rooms are for - not restuarants. Nor if you man and woman, 2 men, or 2 women - public display of affection are not acceptable. Even on honeymoons - and yes I know Disney is the honeymoon captial of the world - they at least have sense enough to go in non-public areas.

Florida despite itself is a Southern state. that type of behavior is not acceptable to most Southerners.

also remember at WDW no matter where you are - you are being watched. Never do anything that you won't want recorded and watched by heavens only knows how many people.

 

[spiceycat]

If not a completely separate restaurant or two for adults, which I would love, how about having a cuple of nice restaurants only serve children under 10 or 12 until 7pm. You could figure most of the kids would be out by 8 or so. It seems like a resonable comprimise for Citricios and Yachtsman for example. Families with young children could dine a little earlier and those adults who chose to dine earlier would know what they would be facing. (I do have adult children, so I have been on the "other" side. We NEVER let our children run around or get loud and disruptive. If they did, one of us left.)

you know I use to think this too....

we went in chicken filet - at 9:30pm - this place closes at 10pm... guess what it has been a long time since I have seem that many children....

big families generally 2 parents 3 to 4 kids - the oldest child in the group was around 6 - the youngest a few months old.... might have been 6 groups of these families sometimes a grandparent was included.

now I didn't say anything, one little boy was so wired that he played hide and seek with me for an hour.....

but I guess this generation doesn't believe in a bedtime hour. I hope they do before the kids start school.... but that 6 year old.

oh before you say something - I asked - no they were not traveling together - they all seemed to live in the area.

 

[PghLybrt]

what exactly were you doing that cause the problem.

kissing is fine. hand holding is great.

but neckling or petting in public is NOT!!! I don't care who you are. that is what hotel rooms are for - not restuarants. Nor if you man and woman, 2 men, or 2 women - public display of affection are not acceptable. Even on honeymoons - and yes I know Disney is the honeymoon captial of the world - they at least have sense enough to go in non-public areas.

Florida despite itself is a Southern state. that type of behavior is not acceptable to most Southerners.

also remember at WDW no matter where you are - you are being watched. Never do anything that you won't want recorded and watched by heavens only knows how many people.

Just being together is a problem for a lot of people.

We do not have to do anything but live and breath to make people get all up in arms. Just because we are gay does not mean we cannot keep our hands off of each other either, as was implied . (And now you can see that people do have a problem with us!) We have been together over 11 years believe me the charm (not all of it though!) has worn off! But that being said I am not a shy person nor am I someone who changes because it makes the masses uncomfortable. I don’t care who watches me in WDW, what are they going to do vandalize my car, beat me? Believe me I have already been there. I just want a nice moment to talk about adult things. I also want to be able to sit there and gaze into her eyes without hearing “ That’s discusting ! You should be ashamed there are children around” Ect! Ect! Ect! While enjoying a rather expensive bottle of wine off of the reserve list!

We already eat late because we have no children in tow so 10pm for dinner is fine. If somebody brings their children into a restaurant that late and one that is more or less designed for an adult experience why would it be such a crazy idea that their child may encounter “adult” things?

 

[spiceycat]

Just being together is a problem for a lot of people.

We do not have to do anything but live and breath to make people get all up in arms. Just because we are gay does not mean we cannot keep our hands off of each other either, as was implied . (And now you can see that people do have a problem with us!) We have been together over 11 years believe me the charm (not all of it though!) has worn off! But that being said I am not a shy person nor am I someone who changes because it makes the masses uncomfortable. I don’t care who watches me in WDW, what are they going to do vandalize my car, beat me? Believe me I have already been there. I just want a nice moment to talk about adult things. I also want to be able to sit there and gaze into her eyes without hearing “ That’s discusting ! You should be ashamed there are children around” Ect! Ect! Ect! While enjoying a rather expensive bottle of wine off of the reserve list!

We already eat late because we have no children in tow so 10pm for dinner is fine. If somebody brings their children into a restaurant that late and one that is more or less designed for an adult experience why would it be such a crazy idea that their child may encounter “adult” things?

So sorry.... I should know better than to jump to conclusion.

looking into each other eyes is so romantic. You are a very lucky person if you still feel that way after 11 years.

I just knew it one of those people that Pete mentioned last year - during gay weeks - he is also gay and got shocked by the language and the stuff people were doing in plain view.

I am sorry but being a Southern - some things you talk about in public and others you don't.

this is not called the Christian Belt for nothing....

If you can't talk about in chuch try not to mention in a public area.

You and your lady would not get those looks.

 

[PghLybrt]

Sorry I always though the words “I love you” were an expectable thing to say in church….guess not! I should just be like the masses at Disney find a child and scream at them for not enjoying themselves. (I am kidding)

I guess what is being proven is that WDW really does need some adult only places.

 

[DisneydaveCT]

I'm the mom of a daughter (now 9) who has been taken to restaurants of all sorts since she was just a few days old, really. She behaves well (and was even quiet as a baby, though I was always ready to leave if she started getting loud) and is the type that winds up getting compliments from the very people who gave me the evil eye for bringing her in. That said, I can't see why an adults-only restaurant is such an offensive idea. So there's a restaurant or two we can't go to. Big deal. It's not like you're starved for choices at WDW or they're going to make the Pooh breakfast at CP adults-only. LOL.

My daughter is like yours, since has been going out for meal in public shortly after her birth. She is now 12. She knows how to behave in a restaurant. Children behave in public in the manner that they have been taught by their parents.

I have dated some women who have said that they cannot control their children, all under 6, because they are "individuals." I'm sorry but expecting a 6 year old to act like an adult is not being a responsible adult. Nor is letting the kids run wild in a restaurant during dinner because you "want them to get tired" before bedtime.

But I have also seen adults misbehave in upscale restaurants at WDW...disagreeing loudly with their spouse or partner, complaining loudly because their drink glass is empty. How can we expect children to behave better in restaurants, when some parents are not much better?

I don' think banning children or creating adults only restaurants is required. I think returning to an expectation of good behaviour in restaurants, regardless of age, is what we need.

 

[Friendly Frog]

For many years I wished that restaurants were completely non smoking, and seating choices were "Adult or Family". Today the smoking issue is less of a problem, so now for the seating choices....

When I am being seated, I often will ask if they have an "Adult only" or "child free" section. I know that the answer is "no" but I do this to alert them that I do not wish to be placed next to a loud family. Also, I am hopefull that if they get a lot of requests like this, they MAY, someday, consider having an adult only section.

So if you REALLY want an "adults only" section at the restaurant you patronize, ASK! Who knows maybe with enough requests, someday it may happen.

( And if you are given a comment card, this is a great time to mention this too.)

 

[wdwpirates]

My thought is that the adults are usually the ones paying for the trip so why shouldn't we have 4 or 5 moderate priced adult only restaurants....an adult only buffet would be great!!!

 

[pezheadmeg]

Maybe there's a reason most restaurants serve food at the bar. That being said, I've seen an awful lot of children eating in bar sections the last few months. I'd settle for even an adults only balcony restaurant in each park.

 

[spiceycat]

Sorry I always though the words “I love you” were an expectable thing to say in church….guess not! I should just be like the masses at Disney find a child and scream at them for not enjoying themselves. (I am kidding)

I guess what is being proven is that WDW really does need some adult only places.

You have never been in a Southern church... right.... Love is not mentioned - except for Christ's love.... otherwise it is almost a forbidden subject. hey the ministers don't even talk about it.

you are a very brave lady - that is something others should learn to say what you feel not what others think are right.

you go girl!!!

 

[spiceycat]

all under 6, because they are "individuals." I'm sorry but expecting a 6 year old to act like an adult is not being a responsible adult. Nor is letting the kids run wild in a restaurant during dinner because you "want them to get tired" before bedtime.

what my little darling.... lots of parents will turn a blind eye to bad behavior - but it can bite them in the end. some of the kids will turn to drugs - because no one understand them. they were so spoiled by well meaning parents.

But I have also seen adults misbehave in upscale restaurants at WDW...disagreeing loudly with their spouse or partner, complaining loudly because their drink glass is empty. How can we expect children to behave better in restaurants, when some parents are not much better?

I have had more trouble with these types. Or they can be so bad mouthed.... calling the manager will get me moved at least. Have had to call the security guard because of drunks (and I mean drunks) fighting in the hottub outside - and so loud.....

some people think they are the center of the world - it really comes into play when these same people are drinking.