OT: Did you give your dc the chicken pox vaccine?

[jodifla]

I agree,by not giving your children vaccines you are putting my children and everybody elses kids at risk. I my state (de) there is no wavier.No vaccines = no school.

People who don't vaccinate put all of us at risk.

 

[Starr W.]

People who don't vaccinate put all of us at risk.

When I started college many many moons ago, I had to get a measles booster and have the paperwork handed in before I could check in to my dorm. They had a major outbreak the year before I started.

When I had my youngest 6 yrs ago, the hospital checked my records and gave me another booster before I could leave with my son.

 

[beccalines]

My first son didn't get the shot. I figure, why take this great childhood pastime away? (Just kidding) We homeschool so we aren't required to get the shot for school. We just decided against it. I'd rather just let him get the chicken pox before the virus mutates and really makes things hard for everyone when the immunity from the virus wears off. With our luck, he probably won't get it until then anyway.

 

[jamesmommy]

People who don't vaccinate put all of us at risk.

Confused here, how can those who choose not to vaccinate put those of us who choose to vaccinate at risk? Isn't that supposed to be the point of the vaccinations, to protect us from that very thing?

Amie

 

[jodifla]

Confused here, how can those who choose not to vaccinate put those of us who choose to vaccinate at risk? Isn't that supposed to be the point of the vaccinations, to protect us from that very thing?

Amie

It's the pack theory. If everybody immunizes, then it cuts down on a virus getting hold. Chicken pox spreads like wildfire, and because of the very long incubation period, a child get spread it to soccer, scouts, baseball and church before realizing they have it.

Even some people who get the shot will get sick, but they'll have a slight version of the pox.

 

[barbmouse]

Both of my dks got the shot as babies and both have recently been given the booster.

 

[beth_cam]

hmmm...when is the booster due? neither of my kids have been given it. My ds is in kindergarten and had a well check up a few months ago with no mention of any shots.

 

[KerriMc]

I don't know when they have to be re-boosted, but my doctor (who my mom works for) has said to her that kids here (in Ontario at least) are going to need to be reboosted for chicken pox. Just like the MMR they are going to need more than one shot for it to give a stronger immunity.

My oldest had it just before she was 3yrs (didn't give it much earlier around here at that time) and the youngest had it around 18 mos I believe. NO reactions, just the oldest had a red spot, but she sure jumped for the needle even though I put the "magic" cream on her to numb her skin. She is just jumpy around needles About two months ago there was a little outbreak of it at our babysitter's house, but neither of my girls caught it.

As for re-vaccinating, it is like that for a lot of vaccines. I was checked before I got pg to see if my immunity was still strong enough for the measles portion of my MMR I had as a child. It wasn't and I was reboosted for it. So, in terms of worrying about our daughters in the future catching CP, they will likely be able to check them, reboost them, plus as someone said Japan is almost 20 years ahead of us. This gives us vital info for what the future holds about this vaccine.

Kerri

p.s. I had been holding out on oldest dd's vaccine because of the worry about pg later in life. Then a friend of mine sent me a newspaper article about her nephew who was just leaving hospital. He was four years old and had been in the ICU on life support. He developed a bacteria (strepA??) in one of his pox on his legs. They were ready to amputate his legs to save his life, but somehow he managed to pull through. He has been in long term rehabilitation to recover from the terrible effects of his illness. This article from my friend, who is a nurse, was the catalyst for me to get her the shot. You just never know who will end up being that statistic where CP is FAR worse than we could ever imagine!

 

[robertsmom]

My kids have not had it, they go to school.
You can sign a waiver in almost all states for not giving your a child vaccine. We delay all shots, and some we don't give at all.

Thanks for this. Really. When my diabetic son ends up hospitalized because he came into contact with an un-vaccinated child, I'll think fondly of you.

 

[katerkat]

My son hasn't had it. It was offered at 12 months, 18 months and 2 years - I declined. I'd prefer he gets it naturally. I plan on reconsidering if he hasn't gotten them by school-age.

 

[pigletof4]

What if the vaccince wears off as they get older and then they get sick as an adult? Chickenpox as an adult is horrible!

There is now a booster on top of the original shot that they get as an infant. My dd7 just got it a well child checkup in January.

 

[kltruck]

Yes- all 3 of my kiddos. I randomly got shingles at age 31 and it was nice to know my kids were immunized. So I couldn't pass chicken pox on to them, and with the immunization they wouldn't ever get shingles as an adult. Its the MMR that I like to delay until they are in preschool.

 

[ammo]

Yes- all 3 of my kiddos. I randomly got shingles at age 31 and it was nice to know my kids were immunized. So I couldn't pass chicken pox on to them, and with the immunization they wouldn't ever get shingles as an adult. Its the MMR that I like to delay until they are in preschool.

When I came back to this page there was a natural shingles cure ad running at the top of the page. How do they do that?!

 

[flying_babyb]

Aditonal question:
If I had a very mild cas of the chicken pox can I get it again?

 

[Bird-Mom]

No, I did not and will not get my children this vaccine.

I agree,by not giving your children vaccines you are putting my children and everybody elses kids at risk. I my state (de) there is no wavier.No vaccines = no school.

I just wanted to point out that this is not true. First off, if you vaccinate, then you should be secure in your choice of believing that the vaxes protect your children. If your children are protected, how are they at risk? Second, Delaware offers two waivers, medical and religious. All states have a medical waiver. Most states, with the exception of West Virginia and Mississippi, offer a religious waiver, and you do not have to be of a specific religion to use it. Eighteen states offer a philosophical waiver.

 

[4eyedbuzzard]

I was an only child and never had it as a child. I got it as an adult at age 35 and was out of work 2 weeks with up to 106°F fevers with some mild scarring. I was lucky. Adults are 9 times more likely to wind up hospitalized - or worse - from contracting it. Generally pneumonia is the greatest risk. While there is much debate about about immunizing children, I would definitely get immunized as an adult if I had never had the disease as a child.

To those who have had it - YES, you have approximately a 10 to 20% chance of getting it again

Chicken pox and hingles are caused by the same virus(varicella-zoster) in the herpes family, the difference is in the form of attack within the body and whether the virus is contacted via the environment or harbored within the body(latency). http://adam.about.com/reports/Shingles-and-chickenpox-Varicella-zoster-virus.htm

 

[4eyedbuzzard]

When I came back to this page there was a natural shingles cure ad running at the top of the page. How do they do that?!

The boards banner company software picks up on keywords within pages and targets marketing from their member sponsors. This is happening and will become more frequent with cable TV as well.

Big brother is watching. But it ain't the government - it's Madison avenue. On second thought, what's the difference.

 

[meandtheguys2]

Thanks for this. Really. When my diabetic son ends up hospitalized because he came into contact with an un-vaccinated child, I'll think fondly of you.

If he is vaccinated, how is he in danger? Perhaps, if you are in such fear of germs in general, your child would be best off homeschooled?

My niece died from a "harmless vaccine." My husband's cousin is deaf because of one. You make your choices, as you have that right, and we will make ours, as we also have the right.

And have you noticed...this never brings anything positive to a conversation...?

 

[4eyedbuzzard]

No, I did not and will not get my children this vaccine.



I just wanted to point out that this is not true. First off, if you vaccinate, then you should be secure in your choice of believing that the vaxes protect your children. If your children are protected, how are they at risk? Second, Delaware offers two waivers, medical and religious. All states have a medical waiver. Most states, with the exception of West Virginia and Mississippi, offer a religious waiver, and you do not have to be of a specific religion to use it. Eighteen states offer a philosophical waiver.

There comes a point in an ordered society of lives(not souls) where the physical and medical rights and expectations of the majority of citizens outweigh the philosophical rights of the minority. When religious and/or medical beliefs have a negative effect on the greater common good, that of compromising public health, it is the right of citizenry to DEMAND compliance - regardless of the beliefs of those who wish not to comply.

Just as we mandate laws for sewage treatment, potable water, air quality, etc in part to stop the spread of disease, we also do similarly by trying to innoculate our citizens from disease. This is not a 3rd world country, nor do we live in the ignorance of the past. And though we remain ignorant of many pathologies, we have made great accomplishments in the past 100 years or so. We know the cause of, and can prevent many commonly occuring diseases that have large negative effects on the masses, and cause preventable suffering in large numbers of our citizens. Those who claim some religious or philosophical "right" to expose the majority of citizens to communicable disease and to aid and provide safe-harbor to pathogens which harm us, simply to satisfy their ideology, should be ostracized. They should be banned from the workplace and public areas, and likewise, their children should be banned from public schools. Part of a vaccination program is not just the prevention of the disease in individuals, but the eradication of the disease itself. Polio and Smallpox are prime examples of common devastating diseases that became almost unknown in the latter half of the 20th century due to aggressive vaccination efforts.

While our religious beliefs are varied, and some may say it's "God's will that disease occurs", many more of us tend to say that it's "God's will that we destroy or prevent disease". As a society of humans, we deal with the physical and living - preventing human suffering outweighs ideological insult. A person's soul is their own business. But one's body, from the standpoint that one may use it to harbor and/or spread disease, is not.

My philosophy is that if your philosophy includes allowing preventable disease and human suffering to continue when preventable, then your philosophy sucks. I condemn it.

/rant

 

[meandtheguys2]

LOL, Your child is not at risk due to the non-vaccination of mine.

What's missing, is the proof that chicken pox needs to be erradicated. I personally don't see the need. Should we attempt to erradicate every bacteria and virus that causes discomfort? I don't think so.