OT - DD not sleeping through the night anymore! **UPDATE PAGE 6**

[Jenvenza]

Oh my! I am so there and doing that! And have been there and done that too! LOL!

If you begin to see this turning into a habit, you will have decide what you need to do to break the habit. I, myself, am a cry it out parent - when the situation calls for it. It has worked for us. But I love any parent that cares for and loves their child and helps mold their children in whatever nurturing way.

But I digress, comfort her as needed for the time being while staying aware of it not becoming a habit. In all likelihood, it is teething (as PP stated they usually pop through a week or so later) or another developmental milestone that will pass before too long.

My DD is waking up between 4:30am - 6am and ready to be up for the day. I could get another hour of sleep if I nursed her, but am weaning her, so I need to figure out a new tactic. I've just been getting up at 5:15 every morning but that is putting a cramp in my DIS nights on the board!

HTH!

We would never let our daughter CIO. Not our style. So again, as stated in my last three posts, not looking for parenting advice. I have it down, thanks.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

When people tell me that they know when MY child is hungry or not, is a bit on the annoying side. Again, not looking for advice on my parenting style.

Then don't post on a message board complaining that your daughter isn't sleeping through the night. You wanted to know why, but don't like the possible answers. Continue what you are doing and you'd better get used to not sleeping through the night.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

From askdrsears.com, on the 7 principles of attachment parenting, here are #5 and #7:

5. Belief in the language value of your baby's cry
A baby's cry is a signal designed for the survival of the baby and the development of the parents. Responding sensitively to your baby's cries builds trust. Babies trust that their caregivers will be responsive to their needs. Parents gradually learn to trust in their ability to appropriately meet their baby's needs. This raises the parent-child communication level up a notch. Tiny babies cry to communicate, not to manipulate.

7. Balance
In your zeal to give so much to your baby, it's easy to neglect the needs of yourself and your marriage. As you will learn the key to putting balance in your parenting is being appropriately responsive to your baby – knowing when to say "yes" and when to say "no," and having the wisdom to say "yes" to yourself when you need help.

My point about babies not needing to eat in the middle of the night was just that, they don't need to. They may like it, but it is responding to their desire, not their need. You can address your daughter's crying without giving her a bottle. Attachment parenting isn't about giving a child everything they want. You have the right to set limits. I wouldn't recommend not feeding a 3 month old, or even a 6 month old in the middle of the night because babies that age still need to be fed that frequently. An 11 month old does not.

So if you don't like my advice, fine. But when your child is 2 and still wanting a 3am snack, you may want to reconsider your position.

 

[Jenvenza]

Then don't post on a message board complaining that your daughter isn't sleeping through the night. You wanted to know why, but don't like the possible answers. Continue what you are doing and you'd better get used to not sleeping through the night.

Can you show me where I was complaning? I wil gladly continue what I am doing. We have no problem with that. Again - see how I am not complaining? I asked if it was normal for babies to stop sleeping through the night. You guys seemed to get off the topic and decided to start telling me how I should parent my child.

 

[Jenvenza]

From askdrsears.com, on the 7 principles of attachment parenting, here are #5 and #7:



My point about babies not needing to eat in the middle of the night was just that, they don't need to. They may like it, but it is responding to their desire, not their need. You can address your daughter's crying without giving her a bottle. Attachment parenting isn't about giving a child everything they want. You have the right to set limits. I wouldn't recommend not feeding a 3 month old, or even a 6 month old in the middle of the night because babies that age still need to be fed that frequently. An 11 month old does not.

So if you don't like my advice, fine. But when your child is 2 and still wanting a 3am snack, you may want to reconsider your position.

Where in your googled quote does it say an 11 month old doesnt NEED to eat in the middle of the night? I can google some stuff to prove my point as well, if you like. Good thing about the internet, you can find just about anything on it.

Of course, I have the right to set limits, and I will when I need to. But again, not what this topic was about. You may have forgotten what this topic was about, since it has turned into "I'm a better mommy than you are, because I ignore my child when he/she cried at night and you don't and I dont understand that and so it obviously cant be right". But if you would like to answer the question I had intially asked, it was "IS IT NORMAL FOR AN 11 MONTH OLD TO STOP SLEEPING THROUGH THE NIGHT?"

 

[Maggie'sMom]

Where in your googled quote does it say an 11 month old doesnt NEED to eat in the middle of the night? I can google some stuff to prove my point as well, if you like. Good thing about the internet, you can find just about anything on it.

Yep, you are right. Including this:

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_nightfd_hhg.htm

When should babies be fed at night?
From birth to the age of 2 months, most babies awaken twice each night for feedings. Between the ages of 2 and 3 months, most babies need one feeding in the middle of the night. By 4 months of age, most bottle-fed babies sleep more than 7 hours without feeding. Most breast-fed babies can sleep through the night by 5 months of age. Normal children of this age do not need calories during the night to stay healthy.

http://www.parents.com/baby/sleep/basics/creating-healthy-sleep-habits/

Breaking Bad HabitsOnce a baby is 3 months old, he no longer has physiological need to be fed during the night. But at 5 months, a fair number of infants are still experiencing problems (or even developing new ones) falling asleep at bedtime or after waking in the middle of the night. Often, well-meaning parents take too active a role in soothing their babies to sleep. The result is a baby who can nod off only with a parent's help and two adults who are absolutely desperate for a good, uninterrupted night's sleep.

Of course, I have the right to set limits, and I will when I need to. But again, not what this topic was about. You may have forgotten what this topic was about, since it has turned into "I'm a better mommy than you are, because I ignore my child when he/she cried at night and you don't and I dont understand that and so it obviously cant be right". But if you would like to answer the question I had intially asked, it was "IS IT NORMAL FOR AN 11 MONTH OLD TO STOP SLEEPING THROUGH THE NIGHT?"

I never once said I was a better parent. I also never ignored my child when she cried at night. I did attachment parenting. I wore my baby during the 3 months I was on maternity leave. I breastfed until she self-weaned at 21 months. I coslept, not exclusively but when she was wanting to be close to me until she was around 1. I fed on demand until she was around 6 months. I addressed her needs when she cried. I also helped her learn how to sooth herself back to sleep.

To answer your question, yes, it is normal for an 11 month old to stop sleeping through the night. I and other posters were simply going beyond the initial question and addressing what may cause your baby to continue to wake during the night. And while you weren't complaining per se, I'm sure you wouldn't have posted and asked "why is my 11 month old NOT waking during the night?"

So you got some advice you didn't ask for. We were just trying to be helpful. It wasn't an attack, and I certainly didn't appreciate you accusing me of ignoring my child's cries. But I'll just chalk that up to a misunderstanding of what I was saying.

 

[Manda]

I posted earlier about my son waking up through the night. Just letting you know FWIW, that I would never let him cry it out either. I don't care if he just wanted to see me or just wanted to know that I would come whenever he called out or cried or whatever... that's a valid request IMO considering he's (was) a baby. And he did start sleeping through the night again at 18 months without CIO - after me getting up and nursing him twice a night or so for months and months - and has slept like a log since that point. Anywho, keep going to your little girl. They're only babies once. It definitely doesn't hurt anything. I kinda miss the middle of the night snuggles sometimes, to be honest.

 

[Jenvenza]

I posted earlier about my son waking up through the night. Just letting you know FWIW, that I would never let him cry it out either. I don't care if he just wanted to see me or just wanted to know that I would come whenever he called out or cried or whatever... that's a valid request IMO considering he's (was) a baby. And he did start sleeping through the night again at 18 months without CIO - after me getting up and nursing him twice a night or so for months and months - and has slept like a log since that point. Anywho, keep going to your little girl. They're only babies once. It definitely doesn't hurt anything. I kinda miss the middle of the night snuggles sometimes, to be honest.

I, too, think it is a valid request, considering she is a baby. Neither my husband nor I complain one bit about getting up if she just needs reaasurance, a bottle or just wants to curl up and snuggle with us. We both know it wont last forever, and are more than willing to tend to her needs whenever they may arise.

 

[Jenvenza]

Yep, you are right. Including this:

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_nightfd_hhg.htm

When should babies be fed at night?
From birth to the age of 2 months, most babies awaken twice each night for feedings. Between the ages of 2 and 3 months, most babies need one feeding in the middle of the night. By 4 months of age, most bottle-fed babies sleep more than 7 hours without feeding. Most breast-fed babies can sleep through the night by 5 months of age. Normal children of this age do not need calories during the night to stay healthy.

http://www.parents.com/baby/sleep/basics/creating-healthy-sleep-habits/

Breaking Bad HabitsOnce a baby is 3 months old, he no longer has physiological need to be fed during the night. But at 5 months, a fair number of infants are still experiencing problems (or even developing new ones) falling asleep at bedtime or after waking in the middle of the night. Often, well-meaning parents take too active a role in soothing their babies to sleep. The result is a baby who can nod off only with a parent's help and two adults who are absolutely desperate for a good, uninterrupted night's sleep.




I never once said I was a better parent. I also never ignored my child when she cried at night. I did attachment parenting. I wore my baby during the 3 months I was on maternity leave. I breastfed until she self-weaned at 21 months. I coslept, not exclusively but when she was wanting to be close to me until she was around 1. I fed on demand until she was around 6 months. I addressed her needs when she cried. I also helped her learn how to sooth herself back to sleep.

To answer your question, yes, it is normal for an 11 month old to stop sleeping through the night. I and other posters were simply going beyond the initial question and addressing what may cause your baby to continue to wake during the night. And while you weren't complaining per se, I'm sure you wouldn't have posted and asked "why is my 11 month old NOT waking during the night?"
So you got some advice you didn't ask for. We were just trying to be helpful. It wasn't an attack, and I certainly didn't appreciate you accusing me of ignoring my child's cries. But I'll just chalk that up to a misunderstanding of what I was saying.

Actually, I wasnt complaing it all. And I am used to my daughter sleeping through the night, so you are correct to assume I wouldnt post asking why she wasnt waking up. That would be a bit of a silly topic, no?

I never asked for advice from anyone on here. I dont need advice from anyone on here. But if I thought I did, I would say so. I have a perfectly happy, wonderful daughter who will continue to get anything she needs from me. And I will continue to *gasp* pick her up when she cries and *double gasp* feed her when she is hungry. Crazy, I know!

 

[emmababy]

If you didn't want a bunch of varying opinions, why post on a public forum? I am sure you could have searched privately on the internet for an answer. Instead, you chose to submit here. Every mom has a different style and opinion, that's the great part of this site, you get differing opinions.

To react so nastily, I find just rude. Read the replies, filter out what you don't agree with and move on.

 

[Jenvenza]

If you didn't want a bunch of varying opinions, why post on a public forum? I am sure you could have searched privately on the internet for an answer. Instead, you chose to submit here. Every mom has a different style and opinion, that's the great part of this site, you get differing opinions.

To react so nastily, I find just rude. Read the replies, filter out what you don't agree with and move on.

I didnt ask for a bunch of varying opinions on parenting styles, now did I? If I had, the title would have stated - "Attachment parenting - I do it! Do you agree with me?" But that wasnt what this was about. So, I am the one who reacted natily? Re-read the replies.

Oh, I am sorry, did you have a reply to my intial post, or are you just having a bad day, so you needed to come in and gripe about something? That is what I find rude.

 

[stella27]

With all due respect, you did ask.

"Is this normal? I am just confused as to why this has started. Maybe a growth spurt??"


Among the many answers you received were opinions that she might be waking due to the impending developmental milestone; that she could be teething; AND that maybe she just wants to see you and play or eat.

I don't see any reason to be snarky with experienced moms who are trying to answer your question. I have a 10 month old (3rd baby) who is doing this right now, and I have pondered the same question as you - why does he keep waking up? And I am fully aware that it could be any number of reasons - including the one you don't want to hear - he keeps expecting me to come in and feed him because I keep coming in to feed him.

It's fine to do that if you want to, but it's not nice to be snippy with people who just point it out as a possibility. You did ask, after all.

 

[Jenvenza]

If you didn't want a bunch of varying opinions, why post on a public forum? I am sure you could have searched privately on the internet for an answer. Instead, you chose to submit here. Every mom has a different style and opinion, that's the great part of this site, you get differing opinions.

To react so nastily, I find just rude. Read the replies, filter out what you don't agree with and move on.

Oh wait, nevermind. I see you are over 37 weeks pregnant. I excuse your rudeness.

 

[Jenvenza]

We will pick her up anytime she wants to be picked up. And if she is hungry in the middle of the night, we will give her a bottle. And she is great at playing by herself, but she would much rather play with us! We believe in attachment parenting, and so far, it has been great! Thank you for the advice though.

I cannot believe your little girl cut 10 teeth in a month! Poor baby! I am afraid that is going to happen to our DD as well, since she is obviously going to get them late. I guess we will see soon enough!

This was my first response to someone giving me that opinion. How was this rude or snippy of me at all? I got annoyed after some condescending remarks about how I parent my child. But I guess that is okay for everyone else. Just not me! That's cool. No worries.

And this was the response I got back from the same poster. Who is the rude one here?

uh, okay.

 

[perkinsrose]

Oh wait, nevermind. I see you are over 37 weeks pregnant. I excuse your rudeness.

I didn't read emmababy's post/suggestion as rude at all--a voice of logic and reason minus the emotional response.

What i do think is rude--bringing her pregnancy to topic; had nothing to do with it.

 

[stella27]

I saw minkydog's response as "I don't agree, but I won't argue with you."
Maybe you saw it differently?

 

[Jenvenza]

Fine, fine, you guys win. I am a rude, rude person, who will be up for the rest of my life with my daughter who will never sleep through the night because if the way I am parenting.

Thanks to the few who were brave enough to post on here agreeing with me and thanks to the numerous people who PMed me saying they agreed, but obviously didnt want conflict!

*Slowing backs out of the Disney for Families board*

 

[LoveKermit]

I'm afraid to post but here I go.

Our daughter has been an avid night sleeper since two months old. When she does cry out (literally just loud whiny cries, not crying like she needs something or is hurt) a couple times before we go to bed, we give her Tylenol when we go to bed. That quiets her down. 98% of the time, it's been teething. The other 2% were after a day of travelling, but we know what they say about hindsight.

It's easy to blame teething for everything, but a lot of times that's what it is. Our daughter never wakes up despite how hard she is crying. Sometimes she breaks into full tears. I then wake her up just to end the dream or whatever. DH just rubs her back.

But for a complete change in sleep behavior, it's either developmental or teeth. My opinion is that a little Tylenol will never hurt anyone and DD has come to appreciate that (and Orajel too).

 

[mamaLori05]

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[mamaLori05]

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