Only 7 1/2 lines are not accessible?

[BillSears]

I've been trying to come up with a list of rides where wheelchair/ECV users do not go through the normal lines and have only thought of 7 1/2. Peter Pan, It's a Small World, Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Jungle Cruise, Space Ship Earth, Star Tours and the last part of the line in Splash Mountain are the only ones I can think of with a shorter line for wheelchar/ECV users.

So did I miss any?

 

[SueOKW]

I think we go in a different entrance for Buzz, don't we?

 

[BillSears]

I think we go in a different entrance for Buzz, don't we?

Nope, it's the normal entrance then just as everyone else boards we go to our second line at the exit.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

Going to the boat ride at The Land I had to take my ECV through the FP line, not the regular line. Each time I was given a handwritten FP based on the wait time of the regular line

 

[BillSears]

Going to the boat ride at The Land I had to take my ECV through the FP line, not the regular line. Each time I was given a handwritten FP based on the wait time of the regular line

Yep CF, that's the way it's been handled for me too. But since it is one of the 2 lines and since it isn't a reduced amount of time I do consider it accessible.

My main reason for compiling this list is for the people who say "I hate seeing all of those wheelchair/ECV users bypass ALL of the lines." This recent thread got my dander up:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1266578

 

[Carnator]

I don"t know if you are only discussing MK at this time or all the parks. I have never been through the line que on Test Track. The CM's always send me around to the exit. I use an ECV and can walk a few feet at a time.

Dec 06 going back for

 

[SueM in MN]

I don"t know if you are only discussing MK at this time or all the parks. I have never been through the line que on Test Track. The CM's always send me around to the exit. I use an ECV and can walk a few feet at a time.

Dec 06 going back for

That might be because the boarding for Test Track is on one side of the track and the exit is on the other side of the track. People using wheelchairs can use the regular (or the Fastpass queue); both are accessible. After getting out of the wheelchair, the CM will take the wheelchair up an elevator to go on a bridge over the track and then back down on the other side. My thought is that your ECV might be too big to fit in the elevator. That would mean you would have to board on the exit side so that the ECV will be on the correct side when you get off.

 

[Michigan]

Don't forget for Peter Pan you have to be able to walk or fling yourself in and out of your chair fast on a moving walk way.

 

[BillSears]

Thanks for the explanation Sue. I was wondering since I've always gone through the normal line.

Don't forget for Peter Pan you have to be able to walk or fling yourself in and out of your chair fast on a moving walk way.

Yep, I'm one of those who can't ride Peter Pan. But people still complain about that ride because wheelchair/ECV users don't use the regular line.

The Tomorrow Transit Authority(People Mover) is off limits for me too. It's considered not accessible to wheelchairs.

 

[SueM in MN]

Here's a list for you Bill (and I posted on the thread you linked to)/
The list of attractions with Mainstream Queues from the official WDW Guidebook for Guests with Disabilities:

Magic Kingdom® Park
Ariel's Grotto
Astro Orbiter
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin
Donald's Boat
Judge's Tent
Mickey's Country House
Mickey's PhilharMagic
Mike Fink Keelboats (seasonal)
Minnie's Country House
Pirates of the Caribbean
Space Mountain®
Splash Mountain®
Stitch's Great Escape!™
The Barnstormer at Goofy's Wiseacres Farm
"The Enchanted Tiki Room Under New Management"
The Hall of Presidents
The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
The Timekeeper (seasonal)
Tomorrowland® Indy Speedway
Toontown Hall of Fame
Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress (seasonal)

Epcot®
FUTURE WORLD
Imagination!: All Attractions
Innoventions East
Innoventions West
Mission: SPACE
Test Track
The Living Seas: All Attractions
The Land: All Attractions
Universe of Energy: "Ellen's Energy Adventure"
Wonders of Life: All Attractions (seasonal)

WORLD SHOWCASE
China: "Reflections of China"
France: "Impressions de France"
FriendShip Boats
Norway: Maelstrom
The American Adventure: "The American Adventure"

Disney-MGM Studios
Disney-MGM Studios Backlot Tour
Fantasmic!
Lights, Motors, Action!™ Extreme Stunt Show
Muppet*Vision 3D
Playhouse Disney - Live On Stage!
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster® Starring Aerosmith
Sounds Dangerous - Starring Drew Carey
Star Tours
The Great Movie Ride
The Magic of Disney Animation
"The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™"
Voyage of the Little Mermaid
Walt Disney: One Man's Dream
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire - Play It!

Disney's Animal Kingdom® Theme Park
Caravan Stage: "Flights of Wonder"
DINOSAUR
Grandmother Willow's Grove: "Pocahontas and Her forest friends"
It's Tough To Be A Bug
Kali River Rapids
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Lion King Theater: "Festival of the Lion King"
Maharajah Jungle Trek
Primeval Whirl
Theater in the Wild: "Tarzan Rocks!"
The Boneyard
TriceraTop Spin

I wanted to add that Soarin' and EE are missing from the list. They are both Mainstream Access.
WDW does consider some lines to be Mainstream queues where the wheelchair user is pulled out of the line right before the regular boarding area (that is probably why they call things like Buzz Lightyear mainstream)_.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Sue,

May I take a moment and just say that you ROCK?!

 

[SueM in MN]

Sue,

May I take a moment and just say that you ROCK?!

Oh, Thank You.
You made my day

 

[kaytieeldr]

I don"t know if you are only discussing MK at this time or all the parks. I have never been through the line que on Test Track. The CM's always send me around to the exit. I use an ECV and can walk a few feet at a time.

Dec 06 going back for

They weren't using that 'entrance' for wheelchairs at all, at least one day in early October. I made it through the single riders line fine on a rented ECV.



Bill -
Tower of Terror, ECV users who can't transfer for whatever reason (in my case, I thought I couldn't manuever myself in a wheelchair and I was alone - but I discovered later I was wrong, I can do it) go in through the exit... unless they're unaware of the restriction and the Greeters are distracted and they just, well, go but the OFFICIAL policy is no ECVs in the mainstream queue.
Rock 'n Roller Coaster - I've been sent through the exit every time, but I know Guests in wheelchairs go through the regular queue until almost the loading lines.
American Adventure: elevator up to theater level (I don't know if people consider that front of the line, but we do get upstairs sooner than everybody else)
Soarin': I found it "interesting" that every time I rode this in Epcot, I was sent to the right - along with all other wheelchair/ECV Guests... so I asked. That theater has room for the wheelchairs, the left side doesn't.
Do you count the Safari? About 3/4 of the line is mainstreamed, but then we're directed off to the separate platform where we may wait a relatively long time for the truck to fill.
Oh - and the riverboat in Frontierland. The line isn't any shorter, but it is entirely separate for wheelchair/ECV Guests.

 

[shovan]

Bill & Sue, you guys are great!

Thanks!!

 

[zumbergc]

You 2 rocked on that other thread.
It's funny how people only point out one of the rides, where the ecv/wheelchair wait is less. However they don't even want to imagine other rides where you have a longer wait.

I think everything balances out. We wait more, we wait less, everyone has a great time at disney.

connie

 

[Annam26]

I just saw the thread that made Bill start this post.....I'm

I wanted so bad to respond, but the thread is closed!!!

For all the talk about a mainstream society, I can tell just from reading the DIS that many, way to many able bodied folks (the majority? God, I hope not, but this MB makes me wonder) would be react badly to a really, truly accessible, integrated society.

I love WDW because is one of the few places I can really enjoy, and do a lot of things, and do them with my family. Even though we're a small family (just four) when we go to the theater, or other places, we're split up. I can only have one person with me. I love that at WDW we can be together for most things.

I think most disabled folks feel the way I do, and that's why so many of us chose WDW as a vacation spot.

But it seems that too many able body wast a lot of their precious vacation time watching out like eagles hoping to spot the "many" instances where the disabled get "privileges" My, it is their mission to pont out, yell, and complain about such injustice, such abuse!

How come these people NEVER notice that in Fantasmic the wheelchair spots are at the back of the theater? How come I've never heard those people say how unfair it is that no matter how early wheelchair users get there, they never sit in front? How come they don't notice that for the MAJORITY of lines we're there with them?.....now that I remember....someone noticed, and complained about it. They demanded a different path for wheelchairs!! Man, we can never please them!!

Peter Pan is my favorire Disney movie. Yet, I have never, and never will ride PP at WDW. How come Those people never notice that, and yell how unfair that is? I can't ride the teacups, the TTA, The Tommorrowland Indy Speedway. No able body person seems to notice that, much less think it is unfair.

When I rode BTMR, I waited for a long time at the exit. Next I waited at the loading area while 4 trains were loaded and unloaded. No one said, "Look at the handicapped people, they waiting while we ride" .

The attitude from these people is hurtful, and worrisome to me. I've ignored those posts for the time I've been on the DIS (about a year and a half) thinking that such a mentality belinged to a pejudiced, small minded minority.
But there are far too many posts for me to keep thinking that.

From now on I'll be more aware of people noticing me, and wondering how often when they look at me, they'll interpret any isolated incident they happen to see where I'm enjoying something theytake for granted as me getting some "privilege" or "advantage" that I shouldn't get. And how it'd be better for me to be out of sight.

If you read this far, forgive my rambling. I don't think I'm making any sense,
but I needed to vent.

 

[MulanMom]

Annam26,

"From now on I'll be more aware of people noticing me, and wondering how often when they look at me, they'll interpret any isolated incident they happen to see where I'm enjoying something theytake for granted as me getting some "privilege" or "advantage" that I shouldn't get. And how it'd be better for me to be out of sight."

Please don't let the postings of the ignorant cause you stress. Why should you even waste your time caring what they think? I understand it's easy to feel that way, given how often you are conspicuous by virtue of your disability. I'm not disabled...was for a bit when I fractured my ankle and it gave me a small taste of what it's like. Hubby has MD and is gradually declining. Yes, we get those looks when he has to load his ECV onto the bus or we have to take the exit onto Test Track, but let me hear one person make a crack about it and I have no reservations telling them, "He'll gladly trade you his diagnosis and stand in line." Then I imagine I'd do the mature thing and punctuate it by stomping my foot and sticking out my tongue at the offender. Naw, wouldn't want to bring myself down to their level!

Isn't there a quote floating around somewhere about "suffering the ignorant"?

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Hey you guys, what thread was this?

Annam, just a little piece of advice. You will never see those rude people again. I just give them a mental moon and smile

 

[dclfun]

I was relieved to see the newly divided entrance to The Land, with a section clearly labelled as for wheelchairs both at the entrances and on the pavement on the way up. I figured this was esp. for those pushing a manual chair and were having difficulty due to the steep incline and possibly running into people as they struggled to push a chair. Unfortunately I have tried to actually use that section and have found able bodied people stopped in the center, reading maps, oblivious to those of us trying to just be safe and have an easier time getting in that area. As I politely asked someone to move, I heard them grumble...."those wheelchair people think they own the world". ----Kathy

 

[Carnator]

yep get rid of rude people..pixiedust for everyone




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