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[Mr.MouseFan]

He could go republican, and he'd still get no support from you.

I get it Dawn.. THE WHOLE DIS GETS IT.

YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN WHO DESPISES OBAMA!

You sound like a broken record, a scratched CD, and a stuck iPod... all in one.

opcorn::

 

[pr surfer]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

 

[Mr.MouseFan]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

Can I just say good on you for using the word kerfuffle! I love that word..LOL.

Oh, and as for the rest of your post?

 

[pr surfer]

Can I just say good on you for using the word kerfuffle! I love that word..LOL.

In my mind I used a different word

 

[Mr.MouseFan]

In my mind I used a different word

I hear ya on that.

 

[SSAVL]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

WOW, there is just so much wrong with your post......it may take me 3 hours to type all the facts to dispute just about every word in it, but i will have to come back tomorrow and do it, its 2am here, and i need to get up early and do what those liberals hate most......work hard, so i can support my self and pay those taxes ( of course its those taxes they really want me to pay so they can give it away to those who DONT work by choice) NITE!!

 

[pr surfer]

WOW, there is just so much wrong with your post......it may take me 3 hours to type all the facts to dispute just about every word in it, but i will have to come back tomorrow and do it, its 2am here, and i need to get up early and do what those liberals hate most......work hard, so i can support my self and pay those taxes ( of course its those taxes they really want me to pay so they can give it away to those who DONT work by choice) NITE!!

I'll pay tomorrows salary for you to take a sick day and stay awake and dispute my post.

Seriously.

Meanwhile, this liberal has to work hard tomorrow. But I'll stay awake and play.

**edit**

I'll take it as a no.

I'll expect your analysis of my post tomorrow.

Please tell me where I'm wrong and you're right.

And thanks for saving me the money I'd have to pay you otherwise. I'll be sure to do something for me with that money... isn't that what cons do?

 

[PeterPan09]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

I was a McCain fan in 2000, but I voted for GW Bush. Heck, I even voted for him in 2004 because I wasn't comfortable with Kerry. In many ways, I think I'm angrier at GW Bush than many who backed Democrats in those two elections. I gave him MORE than a chance, and he took my trust and stomped on it. Even after that, I never expressed the kind of hatred against President Bush that I see here. I never expressed the kind of disdain towards his supporters that I see here for Obama supporters. The entire time he was in office, I hoped that he would see the trainwreck coming and change course. I never wanted him to fail, I wanted his policies to succeed-even though I didn't think they would and didn't agree with them-because I wanted my country to do well. If the country did well, I would have accepted that I wrong-I wouldn't have liked it much-but I would have worked hard to accept it.

 

[loco4dis]

You know, I just have to throw this out there. I'm probably going to get flamed for this but oh well.

All I have heard from republicans is that the Dem's way is the wrong way. The Dems will get us further in the hole. Their plans won't work and we'll be worse off than we are now. All I keep hearing is negativity and this won't work and that won't work. I have YET in all these months to hear ANY viable plan from the GOP. Not ONE plan! Just a bunch of No's and negativity. And this goes all the way back to the campaign.

There's a major reason Obama won and McCain didn't. The minute this economy started it's major nose dive in September, McCain's poll numbers went in the toilet and never recovered. McCain never presented a coherent, well thought out plan to deal with this crisis. Ever. Is Obama's plan perfect? Absolutely not. But you know, at least he and his team have come up with something and are trying to do something about this economy.

Perhaps, had the GOP come up with a viable alternative to the current plan and actually acted in good faith to come up with a compromise, I would have some empathy towards them. (I know, who needs my empathy, right?) But until they get over themselves and the fact that they lost, they can take their ball and go home and be proud of themselves for doing nothing to help this country out of the huge pit we have been thrown in to.

The Republicans absolutely DID have a stimulus plan, though the media generally refused to write about it except in a very few cases (link below is from the foreign press). Why would that be, I wonder? Perhaps because it would have cost about half of Obama's stimulus package, $478 billion versus nearly $900 billion. It centered on cutting in half a 6.2 percent payroll tax on employees, cutting the corporate tax rate to 25 percent from 35 percent and lowering the bottom two income tax brackets to 10 percent and 5 percent, all for one year. The GOP also proposed $11 billion to help prevent home foreclosures through low interest mortgages and a tax credit for home buyers, credits for health insurance, and deductions and extensions on unemployment. The plan was projected to create twice as many jobs for half the cost as Obama's plan. But we'll see how Obama's plan does, won't we?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE50R71P20090128

 

[designermv]

Actually, GOP Lawmakers Outnumbered Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News, so the "media didn't represent them" idea is bunk.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/28/cable-news-stimulus/

 

[mirmartinez]

Actually, GOP Lawmakers Outnumbered Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News, so the "media didn't represent them" idea is bunk.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/28/cable-news-stimulus/

I am so tired of the media hates us crap.

 

[chrisw127]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

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WOW, there is just so much wrong with your post......it may take me 3 hours to type all the facts to dispute just about every word in it, but i will have to come back tomorrow and do it, its 2am here, and i need to get up early and do what those liberals hate most......work hard, so i can support my self and pay those taxes ( of course its those taxes they really want me to pay so they can give it away to those who DONT work by choice) NITE!!

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I'll pay tomorrows salary for you to take a sick day and stay awake and dispute my post.

Seriously.

Meanwhile, this liberal has to work hard tomorrow. But I'll stay awake and play.

**edit**

I'll take it as a no.

I'll expect your analysis of my post tomorrow.

Please tell me where I'm wrong and you're right.

And thanks for saving me the money I'd have to pay you otherwise. I'll be sure to do something for me with that money... isn't that what cons do?

He SHOOTS. He SCORES! pr surfer WINS the game!

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Actually, GOP Lawmakers Outnumbered Democratic Lawmakers 2 To 1 In Stimulus Debate On Cable News, so the "media didn't represent them" idea is bunk.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/28/cable-news-stimulus/

I am so tired of the media hates us crap.

Second game. designermv takes it to the other team! mirmartinez is the designated section.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Can you tell I have 8th grade girls basketball tournaments on my to-do list this weekend???

 

[Planogirl]

I hear ya on that.

Can I just say how much I enjoy your posts? Reasonable and well-thought, are you sure that you belong here?

I agree that Obama deserves a chance and those with no ideas of their own should at least give him that chance. If he fails, that's different but crucifying him before he even fails seems counterproductive.

 

[SSAVL]

I find funny how I gave Bush more than 4 years of chances before telling the world 'he's not my president'... I defended his actions, and gave him benefit of the doubt. He wasn't my candidate, he wasn't who I voted for (in fact, I took the Gore side during the recount kerfuffle), but at the end, he was my president (for a little over 4 years). I even defended him from what my father figure had to say about him... from HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE MAN.

Yet the Discons won't give Obama 100 days before calling for his head.

You guys had 8 years with your leadership, and they messed up. If GWB had done a halfway decent job, then perhaps you'd have Pres. McCain right now.

But he didn't. He did a poor job running our country, and the result for his (mis)actions is Pres. Obama, who I truly hope does a good job.

If it means some businesses will be nationalized, or that government will be expanded... so be it. I accepted 8 years of fascism, I'll accept 8 years of socialism.

I re-read your post, and after reading your last sentence, i can see there is no sense in debating you at all. If you are willing to accept 8 years of socialism ( and im sure you wrote that with a straight face) unchecked and knowing what it will do to us, then that puts you out on the extreme fringe. Tell me this, im curious about your fascism statement. If true fascists aim to create a single-party state in which the government is led by a dictator who seeks unity by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or a race, how can you compare that to what we had with Bush? It wasnt until after obama won that we started seeing democratic senators looking to repeal the 22nd amendment. The 2 party system was clearly alive and well while Bush was in office. Im sure we will find soon that obama is more likely to take us down that road......

 

[SSAVL]

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He SHOOTS. He SCORES! pr surfer WINS the game!

OH OH< after official review, the call is overturned and a new winner crowned!!!!!!!!!

 

[momto2girls]

New doesn't mean better. McCain reached across the aisle, but was demonized for having an "R" after his name.



I really, really wish this weren't not true.. but it's doesn't look good. Obama and his doom and gloom. I am not spending a dime that isn't a necessity. I would like to... I love to spend money. If I've stopped spending....???? DH used to say I was trying to save the economy all on my own. Not anymore. I'm saving for the floods and famines.

The dems are absolutely beside themselves. They have been waiting a long time to do this. I can't believe the "it's our turn now". Turn? It's all about OUR TURN? "We can spend, spend, spend on what WE want." And, justify it by saying, "Well, the Republicans blah blah blah blah blah....."

Sorry, as I said, new doesn't mean better.

I'm doing the same thing. I have plenty of money to spend, but I'm not spending anything unless I need to. DH was shocked at how low our American Express bill was last month. But with Obama at the helm, I have decided to hoard as much money as I can. I have a feeling that we're going to need it.

 

[pr surfer]

I re-read your post, and after reading your last sentence, i can see there is no sense in debating you at all. If you are willing to accept 8 years of socialism ( and im sure you wrote that with a straight face) unchecked and knowing what it will do to us, then that puts you out on the extreme fringe. Tell me this, im curious about your fascism statement. If true fascists aim to create a single-party state in which the government is led by a dictator who seeks unity by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or a race, how can you compare that to what we had with Bush? It wasnt until after obama won that we started seeing democratic senators looking to repeal the 22nd amendment. The 2 party system was clearly alive and well while Bush was in office. Im sure we will find soon that obama is more likely to take us down that road......

and true communists dont?

Fascism is the right wing extreme, Communism is the left wing extreme. Both extreme in single party states. And if I remember correctly, the Bush White House (Rove specifically) was quite fascist in its attempts to ensure a permanent republican majority.

As much as it pains a lot of cons to hear it, Socialism is actually a moderate left wing view.

And yes, I said that with a straight face.

OH OH< after official review, the call is overturned and a new winner crowned!!!!!!!!!

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