Old park hopper tickets

[Alesia]

Excuse me if that bothers you.

It doesn't.

 

[Disneyholic]

But whatever. I'm done arguing.

But the horse is really dead now I think......... I pass the sledgehammer to you in case you want to keep on beating....

Are you done or not? Apparently not since you keep posting.

I have 3 10 day NE MYW tickets w/ PH & WP&M. One ticket still has 7 park days and 10 WP&M. 2 tickets have only 10 WP&M left. The reason I know this is because I kept track of them since day 1. My responsibility.

 

[iwish81792]

see, this is not true with the "magic your way" tickets.
anyhoo, they each still have a day left! when they ever return, they can only get the full value if they just go for one day. otherwise, I believe the value at the time will just be deducted from their MYW ticket. (I do not beleived there is "bridging" on these old passes)

but there was NO finger identification back then.

things change.. you let tickets go THAT long, you take what you can get.

This is something I was wondering about as well...my dad gave me an old one-day park hopper from before the Magic Your Way system was implemented...it was either mine or my brother's, but it is a child's ticket. At GS they told us that it would have to be used as-is because if they tried to put the credit into the new system, the ticket would just be considered expired. I don't know whether I can even use the ticket or not because (obviously) I am not eight years old anymore.

 

[TagsMissy]

If a person purchases a ticket for the exact number of days they are planning to use, and use all the days there is no problem.

If a person purchases a ticket that they intend to cover more than one trip, by purchasing the No Expire Option, it is their responsibility to be aware of how many days remain on the ticket.

Because the way Disney tickets are structured, the greater the number of days the less the daily cost, it is Disney policy not to assist anyone in getting detailed information about days remaining as the holder has shirked their responsibility. As a Guest convenience, Disney will, over the phone, let a person know whether or not the ticket is still valid, and in person will let a person know what actually remains.

See Post 18-B of the ticket sticky for detailed daily pricing information for both expiring and non-expiring tickets.

And I am not calling anyone an idiot, but if you do not like this policy contact Disney and provide them with their thoughts, don't constantly challenge anyone who disagrees with you.

Bella please see page 2 where I posted contact info for Disney.... I really don't get all the whinging on here but the refusal to actually talk to Disney. Change can only come if guests voice their concerns.

 

[Meets1]

What I don't understand is, shouldn't I be able to call in and verify my identity with Disney based on info they have on file for me and then check the amount of days left on the tickets that are tied to my customer record? What's wrong with that?

 

[Alesia]

What I don't understand is, shouldn't I be able to call in and verify my identity with Disney based on info they have on file for me and then check the amount of days left on the tickets that are tied to my customer record? What's wrong with that?

Disney tried it for a while. For whatever reason, they decided it wasn't working out for them. Their house, their rules. That's why (on the first page of this thread) I offered what I thought were helpful suggestions for keeping track of this information oneself.

 

[Bothepro24]

Unless they are very old, say 1992 or so, you will have to present them at guest services. Some of the very old ones have numbers on the back that can be verified. I had tickets from 1997 that I had to present. Was was great was there were two days left and I saved a ton of money.

 

[maxiesmom]

What I don't understand is, shouldn't I be able to call in and verify my identity with Disney based on info they have on file for me and then check the amount of days left on the tickets that are tied to my customer record? What's wrong with that?

Up until a couple of years ago there was a number you could call and see how many days you had left on a ticket. Then E-Bay and Craig's List exploded, and it became easy for people to sell partially used tickets to people who didn't realize that they probably wouldn't be able to use them. So Disney shut down the phone line as a way to help control both the sale of partially used tickets, and a way to keep angry guests with unusable tickets away from their park gates.

Any information they could possibly ask to verify your identity over the phone is information a person selling their ticket could give to the buyer.

 

[Bellamouse]

don't constantly challenge anyone who disagrees with you.

Really? It was I who was challenged by many people who disagree with me, not the other way around.

And I never insinuated anyone was stupid or needed to go back to school to understand what I was saying. I have consistently criticized a Disney policy I don't like, but never made any criticisms of any people on this thread. I admit to being annoyed at people who clearly didn't read my posts (which said I didn't actually need to know anything about my tickets, yet they kept asking me "what do you need to know about your tickets?", and kept giving me advice about how to "remember", even though I clearly stated over and over that I already have my own system for keeping track). So responses with more "advice" was not the point of my original post whatsoever. It was to express my displeasure about a policy that I don't like. And then I was challenged repeatedly by people who don't like what I have to say!!

And for the last time, I clearly understand why they have the policy, and why they don't want people re-selling their tickets. I don't need to "go back to school" to understand that. But no one wants to acknowledge that there are ways to tie me to my ticket, and they choose not to do it. For whatever reason. And that bothers me whether you all like it or not.

 

[Alesia]

But no one wants to acknowledge that there are ways to tie me to my ticket, and they choose not to do it. For whatever reason. And that bothers me whether you all like it or not.

I did in post #46. Others have, too. We all understand that it bothers you, and that's totally fine. You pointed out potential problems with losing the information. I gave a couple of simple solutions to avoid the problem. You made it very clear that you weren't interested in solutions. We get it. The problem is, we can't do anything about it. As others have said, call Disney and let them know about your displeasure. Or better yet, start voting with your dollar if it upsets you that much.

 

[maxiesmom]

And for the last time, I clearly understand why they have the policy, and why they don't want people re-selling their tickets. I don't need to "go back to school" to understand that. But no one wants to acknowledge that there are ways to tie me to my ticket, and they choose not to do it. For whatever reason. And that bothers me whether you all like it or not.

What you keep choosing to ignore is the ways you suggest they tie you to your ticket are not good ones, because they would not keep dishonst people from selling their tickets. You don't want to acknowledge that, you would rather be mad.

 

[vacationclub]

Really? It was I who was challenged by many people who disagree with me, not the other way around.

You challenged people over and over and over again...

-in posts #9 when you talk about all the info you think Disney has on you after others try to explain the policy
-in post #11, when you aggressively say you're not interested in others suggested solutions to avoid the problem
-in post #14 when again you say you shouldn't HAVE to worry about keeping track of things
-in post #17 when you said that the PP was using silly logic while trying to explain to you the basics of this sitution
-in post #20 when you say that a PP cant' "grasp the concept", then also said....
If you don't get it, you don't get it and no amount of reasoning will make you get it.
-in post #21 when you say 'Thanks for the great "grown up advice". AND THEN SAY...but you all clearly don't want to deal with the topic, but rather tell me about how I need to learn some hard lessons in personal responsibility! HA!
-in post #24 in response to my suggestions about how people approach this issues...you say Another "solution". Lovely. followed by.. Not everyone who goes to Disney is rich and can pay rack rate at the Poly for 10 days.


You repeatedly call the policy crazy and rediculous. You even contradict yourself at times. And after explanation after explanation about how extra discount tix being re-sold gray market is bad for Disney, you continue by saying that you clearly understand the policy, but just don't know why they have the policy.

And I never insinuated anyone was stupid or needed to go back to school to understand what I was saying.

I didn't say you were stupid, that was your exaggeration. I said that perhaps perhaps market economics isn't your strong suit. There is a reason for this, even if you don't understand it. I've gone to great lengths to show examples, as did others. You don't want to hear it. You just want what you want.

I have consistently criticized a Disney policy I don't like, but never made any criticisms of any people on this thread.

Except for all of the ones I just listed above.

I admit to being annoyed at people who clearly didn't read my posts (which said I didn't actually need to know anything about my tickets, yet they kept asking me "what do you need to know about your tickets?", and kept giving me advice about how to "remember", even though I clearly stated over and over that I already have my own system for keeping track). So responses with more "advice" was not the point of my original post whatsoever.

But it sure seemed that way, since many people all made the same mistake of giving you some friendly advice, even though the secret to your rant was buried somewhere in an earlier post.

And then I was challenged repeatedly by people who don't like what I have to say!!

You were challenged by people specifically addressing your question about why this policy exists. Over and over and over.

And for the last time, I clearly understand why they have the policy, and why they don't want people re-selling their tickets. I don't need to "go back to school" to understand that. But no one wants to acknowledge that there are ways to tie me to my ticket, and they choose not to do it. For whatever reason.

The problems of why they can't do what you think they can do are directly related to the policy itself. The policy is specifically designed because they obviously can't completely confirm ticket ownership. Not sure why you think Disney has all this info you keep talking about. When we bought a 10day hopper in 2006, we simply handed them a credit card, nothing more. I'm guessing they simply don't hold that data forever, and EVEN IF THEY DID, you could still use that data to sell your ticket to some one who needs proof of it's value. THEY AREN'T GOING TO HELP YOU PROVE TO A STRANGER THAT THE TICKET HAS A SPECIFIC VALUE by doing it over the phone. You must be there in person to greatly eliminate the chances that you are intent on re-selling unused days. If you are there in person, you're mostly likely going to be using them, not selling them. If you're calling on the phone, you are much more likely to be trying to prove their authenticity and sell them.

How many more times can it be said?