Ohio Train Derailment

[BroadwayHermione5]

My friend lives about 30-35 minutes away and we are supposed to visit them in the fall and we are all a little panicky…..their concern isn’t so much the water but the air and the livestock dying. The full ramifications won’t be fully known either until years from now

 

[DeeBee3]

Did you hear about the pipeline spill?

Which one? Is this a quiz of my newsworthiness? I don't see what you are getting at with this question.

 

[BroadwayHermione5]

I am far enough away to not be too concerned about our health but close enough that the local news has had it on a lot. I think I am only a few hours away. This should be getting more attention then just the local news.

See I first heard about it on Reddit. It was not picked up here where I live

 

[DeeBee3]

Did you hear about the pipeline spill?

If it's Keystone, then yes. Oil. Yes, terrible. Poisonous gases being purposely burned into the air concerns in a greater fashion due to the effect on people's lungs and who knows where it blows to. Just like the 9/11 responders - so many health issues down the road.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Which one? Is this a quiz of my newsworthiness? I don't see what you are getting at with this question.

If it's Keystone, then yes. Oil. Yes, terrible. Poisonous gases being purposely burned into the air concerns in a greater fashion due to the effect on people's lungs and who knows where it blows to. Just like the 9/11 responders - so many health issues down the road.

No it's not a quiz on your newsworthiness but make a claim though that no one is talking about something you'll probably get people wondering if you know all that is going on in their backyards.

Yes it's the keystone pipeline, it happening in rural environment is the best under the circumstances although the water supply is the bigger thing. It being the largest of all keystone pipeline spills. Seeping into the ground and water supply is pretty darn big in terms of long-term unknown effects to not only humans but the entire ecosystem around. Farm land is common (with some of it being completely destroyed with no ability to rehabilitate it) and we're a heavy agriculture state for the country and the world. That is located about 3 hours from me but the waterways feed into other larger waterways. The cause seems to be determined to be a weld issue. I know people are talking about this one though.

In 2016 there was a mixing of chemicals at a distilling plant inadvertently that caused chlorine gas to be released affecting an area with more than 11,000 residents about an hour away from me. And that plume with the way the winds go around here could have easily very very easily made its way here. I can completely understand Ohio residents concerns there. As far as I know just under 150 people in the 2016 incident near me sought medical care due to the chemicals but it could have been far worse for sure.

Regardless people are talking about this Ohio incident but I agree with other people it's where you're getting your news. And this isn't a competition over which environmental issue is worse. Your "Oil. Yes, terrible" is an unfortunate sarcasm on your part. I guess with it not happening near you it just doesn't seem all that big of a deal in comparison to something else, contradictory towards the concern over the health of people (people do live near there) and the environment you spoke of earlier because I guarantee you here the people here are quite concerned over the effects of it to our land and people.

 

[Princesca]

In general, I've found this eye opening. It's easy to forget how the sausage is made, so to speak, when you only see the final consumer application and it appears to be relatively innocuous. It's easy to forget the massive amount of toxins that are part of our daily lives and, while they're purported to have been made safe for that intended purpose (debatable in some cases), our consideration of them often ends the minute we throw them out, or donate them somewhere. Entropy will get them eventually, and then all that stuff is going to break down and into whatever environment it's in at the time.

I know it's very obvious, but it was a good reminder for me that I want to try to do better with this.

 

[disneydreamer781]

Yeah, it took a while to find this on a couple of news agencies. DH who listens to the news way more than I do, didn't know what I was talking about. I heard about it through an Earthjustice email.

 

[DeeBee3]

No it's not a quiz on your newsworthiness but make a claim though that no one is talking about something you'll probably get people wondering if you know all that is going on in their backyards.

Yes it's the keystone pipeline, it happening in rural environment is the best under the circumstances although the water supply is the bigger thing. It being the largest of all keystone pipeline spills. Seeping into the ground and water supply is pretty darn big in terms of long-term unknown effects to not only humans but the entire ecosystem around. Farm land is common (with some of it being completely destroyed with no ability to rehabilitate it) and we're a heavy agriculture state for the country and the world. That is located about 3 hours from me but the waterways feed into other larger waterways. The cause seems to be determined to be a weld issue. I know people are talking about this one though.

In 2016 there was a mixing of chemicals at a distilling plant inadvertently that caused chlorine gas to be released affecting an area with more than 11,000 residents about an hour away from me. And that plume with the way the winds go around here could have easily very very easily made its way here. I can completely understand Ohio residents concerns there. As far as I know just under 150 people in the 2016 incident near me sought medical care due to the chemicals but it could have been far worse for sure.

Regardless people are talking about this Ohio incident but I agree with other people it's where you're getting your news. And this isn't a competition over which environmental issue is worse. Your "Oil. Yes, terrible" is an unfortunate sarcasm on your part. I guess with it not happening near you it just doesn't seem all that big of a deal in comparison to something else, contradictory towards the concern over the health of people (people do live near there) and the environment you spoke of earlier because I guarantee you here the people here are quite concerned over the effects of it to our land and people.

You are making many assumption about me. It's Valentine's Day so I'll just say have a lovely day. Please don't make assumptions about a person you have never met.

Read about vinyl chloride and what happens when it burns. It was banned after its use in WWI. I am not comparing "which environmental issue is worse." I'm saying the state or Federal government is not being forthright over the actual chemicals and safety issues of this particular accident. That's what I mean when it is not being covered properly. I don't want to get into any more per DisBoard rules.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You are making many assumption about me. It's Valentine's Day so I'll just say have a lovely day. Please don't make assumptions about a person you have never met.

Read about vinyl chloride and what happens when it burns. It was banned after its use in WWI. I am not comparing "which environmental issue is worse." I'm saying the state or Federal government is not being forthright over the actual chemicals and safety issues of this particular accident. That's what I mean when it is not being covered properly. I don't want to get into any more per DisBoard rules.

What assumption am I making? If you don't mean that an oil spill is less egregious please do expand.

I don't know why Valentine's Day has anything to do about this...that is a romantic holiday..so umm..yeah. Does that somehow mean you can quote me on Valentine's day and have your say but I'm not supposed to respond back?

Like I said this isn't about a competition. It's not like I'm going to tell you to go look up chlorine gas and come back when you have. They are all terrible acts on our environment and public safety. Period.

 

[anniemae]

I just heard it described as Chernobyl type disaster. We are hearing more about balloons on the news. I heard a blip on the news about this, but I had no idea it was so bad.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I must live in a bubble because I knew nothing about what is being called by some a toxic plume over Ohio despite the fact we have home in PA and were just there and noone was talking about it. One night we were outside visiting family maybe around the 9th and noticed a horrid smell, it was strange but we wrote it off as farm smells. Now I'm not so sure what was in the air. I did hear about it when chatting with someone about a dog who told me to go look it up so I did.

The coverage is, at best, spotty.
I still can't quite make out all the Kindergarten questions of WHO - WHAT - WHEN - WHERE - WHY - HOW

Sort of looks like:
In Ohio there was an event that spilled lots of toxins into the world and things are dying & people are unsafe, some families are being given $1000 each for shelter I think.

I would like to be better informed since precipitation generally moves from there to where we raised our kids so I'm going to assume the toxins will roughly follow the same air path. Somehow, I am vaguely reminded of my 8th grade reading book "Love Canal."

 

[CdnCarrie]

See I first heard about it on Reddit. It was not picked up here where I live

Where the heck do you live? I'm in Canada and I have seen it on the news, in the newspaper, on the radio and on social media.

 

[DCLMP]

I have gotten plenty of stories in my news feed about this and I'm all the way in CA.

People who say "no one is talking about this" very often never watch or read the actual news.

It happened over a week ago and it's just started being talked about on lame street news. They've been too busy trying to distract us with the fake alien invasion.

 

[DCLMP]

I just heard it described as Chernobyl type disaster. We are hearing more about balloons on the news. I heard a blip on the news about this, but I had no idea it was so bad.

It happened Feb 3 so almost two weeks. I heard a blip about it when it occurred....then nothing. Social media started really covering it over the last week and now some news stations are. If it wasn't for social media it wouldn't have made the news.

 

[soccerdad72]

It's local(-ish) for us, so there's no lack of local coverage, but nationally, I've seen daily reports each morning on the Today Show, so I assumed it was being covered by most networks as well (even the 'lame street news' )

 

[DCLMP]

See I first heard about it on Reddit. It was not picked up here where I live

I heard about it on a different social media site and started following the story from there. It really grabbed my attention because I just watched White Noise on Feb 1.

 

[DCLMP]

Read about vinyl chloride and what happens when it burns. It was banned after its use in WWI. I am not comparing "which environmental issue is worse." I'm saying the state or Federal government is not being forthright over the actual chemicals and safety issues of this particular accident. That's what I mean when it is not being covered properly. I don't want to get into any more per DisBoard rules.

You have to look at who the shareholders are, starting with Vanguard and Blackrock to see why they didn't want this getting out.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It happened over a week ago and it's just started being talked about on lame street news. They've been too busy trying to distract us with the fake alien invasion.

Sometimes events overshadow others but it doesn't mean they (and I'm not getting into who they are or your alien comment) are trying to distract people.

Is anyone outside of KC really truly tuned into the parade right now? Or is their local news focused elsewhere? Kind of works like that. Right now if I go to google news on my computer most of it is focusing on the Michigan event.

I def. agree that events all around should be given front and center but sometimes something happens when nothing else is happening and they get the big news because of that and then something else comes along and moves it away. For the balloon it gained traction the same day that the train derailment happened.

It's a valid point of discussion about just which events pull people's attentions away though. Sometimes that's just locational. I wouldn't have expected other parts of my state to have picked up the balloon story because it wasn't flying over their airspace but it was over my area's. I would have expected those in Ohio on that day to have had more coverage towards the derailment than the balloon.

 

[jalapeno_pretzel]

I saw it on my google news feed the first time I checked it following the event (about a day later or so). They had it as one of the more major stories that had several links with reporting from various sources. Seemed to me there was plenty of coverage from major media sites - both at the beginning and ongoing. It's still on my google news feed, though not the main page, only if I click on the US topics. 7th story out of 60+ stories, and located above anything about objects in the sky.

 

[leahgoogle]

You have to look at who the shareholders are, starting with Vanguard and Blackrock to see why they didn't want this getting out.

I totally agree. Twitter is really giving this some traction and is where I first heard about it. It is devastating to the the immediate area and could negatively affect 4 or 5 states. It is being downplayed severely!