Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

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I was WORRIED for this thread!!! I thought we'd of been POOFED from the new regulations!!!

Thank Goodness!! :worship: :cool1:

I was thinking the same thing! I think that somehow we need to find a way to preserve all the hard work. I don't want to lose all those links and pictures.
 
"Mr Miscavige continued, "Not wanting to rub it in for you non believers, but you wouldn't see Tom Cruise kill himself 'accidentally' in a hotel room. No. He's a Scientologist. Heath wasn't. So if you don't want to die of an accidental drug overdose, maybe you should think about becoming a Scientologist."

hummm not jumping the gun is he..... maybe he means if tom ends up dead it's by accident or because he lost his way.....

a little pre-covering his a$$???
 

Just read the In Touch article: Kirstie Alley IS a Scientologist, and has been for years. She's also good friends with JT.

Was that statement from Miscavige for real? I took it as someone spoofing him. It's WAY out there if it's for real!
 
"Mr Miscavige continued, "Not wanting to rub it in for you non believers, but you wouldn't see Tom Cruise kill himself 'accidentally' in a hotel room. No. He's a Scientologist. Heath wasn't. So if you don't want to die of an accidental drug overdose, maybe you should think about becoming a Scientologist."

hummm not jumping the gun is he..... maybe he means if tom ends up dead it's by accident or because he lost his way.....

a little pre-covering his a$$???

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***????? That has got to be the weirdest statement! What possessed (hee hee) him to say all of that??????????
That link was a spoof. Miscavige didn't say those things.
 
what new regulations?

All of the long threads (with post counts over 10,000) have been removed temporarily to see how the DIS runs without them. I was surprised that we made the cut-off. This is a huge thread. But glad because there's a lot of good info in here.
 
Okay, this is freaky. I just came home with In Touch, and on the cover it says "Kristie defends Tom's video"!! This is just spreading like WILDFIRE!!

**Stay away from the kool-aid** Any weight-loss benefits will (allegedly) be outweighed (hah!) by brainwashing & blackmail (allegedly)!!

Kirstie drinks Kool Aid though! Of course she's going to defend him!!! :lmao:

"He's not wacky" (i.e. cuz that would mean Im wacky too!)

Okay, this is pee your pants hysterical!!!!!!!! :rotfl2:
http://itsallliesnews.blogspot.com/2008/01/church-of-scientology-denies.html

:lmao: :lmao: That was a good one!!!


YES! It was!!! :rotfl:


All of the long threads (with post counts over 10,000) have been removed temporarily to see how the DIS runs without them. I was surprised that we made the cut-off. This is a huge thread. But glad because there's a lot of good info in here.

It's a temp thing? Hmmmm - thats good to know.

But you know why WE made the cut? Cuz its NOT a clique thread. It's an ongoing lesson, with new things to add everyday. We are EDUCATING the DIS population!!! And anyone can come and add there 2 cents. :thumbsup2

We're freaking amazing! :laughing:
 
I don't think that was a real quote from Miscavige but it was hilarious.
 
Here's a quote for their own website. it totally reminded me of the movie "MY Big Fat Greek Wedding" if you've seen in you'll know instantely - when the father says every word comes from the Greek.

"The word Scientology literally means "the study of truth." It comes from the Latin word "scio" meaning "knowing in the fullest sense of the word" and the Greek word "logos" meaning "study of."

Scientology is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, others and all of life. The Scientology religion comprises a body of knowledge extending from certain fundamental truths. Prime among these:

Man is an immortal, spiritual being. His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime. His capabilities are unlimited, even if not presently realized — and those capabilities can be realized. He is able to not only solve his own problems, accomplish his goals and gain lasting happiness, but also achieve new, higher states of awareness and ability.

In Scientology no one is asked to accept anything as belief or on faith. That which is true for you is what you have observed to be true. An individual discovers for himself that Scientology works by personally applying its principles and observing or experiencing results.

Through Scientology, people all over the world are achieving the long-sought goal of true spiritual release and freedom. "
 
"MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY

Why do some people oppose Scientology?

There are certain characteristics and mental attitudes that cause a percentage of the population to oppose violently any betterment activity or group. This small percentage of the society (roughly 2 percent) cannot tolerate that Scientology is successful at improving conditions around the world. This same 2 percent is opposed to any effective self-betterment activity. The reason they so rabidly oppose Scientology is because it is doing more to help society than any other group. Those who are upset by seeing man get better are small in number compared to the millions who have embraced Scientology and its efforts to create a sane civilization and more freedom for the individual."

wow - only 2% disagree with them - how interesting that they can't seem to convert us since we are such a small group of misguided people
 
"What is Dianetics?
Dianetics comes from the Greek words dia (through) and nous (soul). Dianetics could be said to be what the soul is doing to the body. It provides answers to the fundamental riddles of the mind with a thoroughly validated method that increases sanity, intelligence, confidence and well-being. It gets rid of the unwanted sensations, unpleasant emotions and psychosomatic ills that block one’s life and happiness. Dianetics rests on basic principles that can be easily learned and applied by any reasonably intelligent person—as millions have. It is the route to a well, happy, high IQ human being.

Dianetics addresses the part of the mind that operates below the conscious level, exerting a hidden influence that causes you to react irrationally, say and do things that "aren't you," and have inexplicable emotions and ills that hold back intelligence and ability. It all resolves with Dianetics. "


i love this part "Dianetics rests on basic principles that can be easily learned and applied by any reasonably intelligent person—as millions have. It is the route to a well, happy, high IQ human being.
"

ah huh.... guess us dumbens will all just die out.

any reasonable intelligent person - hummmm i'm pretty reasonable and intelligent and may not be in Mensa but not a slug either.

"causes you to react irrationally, say and do things that "aren't you," that describes just about every teenager in the world LOL
 
just wondering if scientology can help me loose weigh???

They certainly can! They'll just lock you up in a roach infested room w/no windows & only a dirty mattress on the floor & feed you moldy bread & water for about a month. Even longer if they deem it "necessary". :eek:

OMG! Those videos! Seriously robotic. They make it seem so utopian, so clean & neat, so collegiate. Like you just couldn't resist wanting to be a part of something so wonderful. And if you had never heard of the aliens before you might think that this isn't so bad, sounds pretty good in fact. Then....that last minute of the video, the guy's chip must've malfunctioned because he just lost it. :lmao: Yes, I could throw myself off a cliff or kill myself but I don't think I will. Thanks anyway.

I spent the better part of my evening reading all the TC related stuff (yay Gawker!:cheer2: ) & the comments were hilarious. And Kirstie Alley defends Tom Cruise? Go figure!

Also, every time I see the Scientology Head Idiot's name I think it says David Miscarriage. :laughing:
 
anyone else think there are 2 sections of that "church" one for the celebs who are treated the way they want the world to know them as and one for the regular folk who are the ones who are locked up, beaten and (in come cases) left to die.

it just seems interesting that you never hear a bad word form an ex member who is a celeb. all the ex members are people you wouldn't know from adam.

celebs leave other religions and have spoken about why - most recently i recall Sherie someone on the View talking about leaving the J. Witness church and becoming christian.


has any celeb ever left the cult? no one of "importance" has ever come out and said this is what happened to them

hell even a presidential wanna be came out and said he saw a UFO a few months ago
 
All of the long threads (with post counts over 10,000) have been removed temporarily to see how the DIS runs without them. I was surprised that we made the cut-off. This is a huge thread. But glad because there's a lot of good info in here.

We should be fine. If they change it to no more than 10,000 post we have a long way to go. :thumbsup2
 
When I was watching the orientation videos on UTube, I also thought they were bad quality. Until I realized they were bootleg videos that someone made while in the orientation session.
 
An interview with Morton. I thought the answer about Nicole was interesting.



Thursday, January 24, 2008
Tom Cruise biographer Morton defends his book

By Alicia Quarles THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK— Andrew Morton, author of “Tom Cruise: An Unauthorized Biography,” published by St. Martin’s Press, alleges that the 45-year-old actor ranks second in command in the Church of Scientology.

The book, which came out last week, also alleges that some Scientologists believe that Cruise’s daughter Suri was conceived using frozen sperm from Scientology founder and science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

In a statement to The Associated Press, Cruise’s lawyer, Bertram Fields, said last week that Morton’s book is “absolutely loaded with false statements” and “Mr. Morton should be ashamed of himself for telling such vicious lies about a child to hype sales of his book.”


The church has responded with a 15-page statement, calling the book “a bigoted, defamatory assault replete with lies” and saying Cruise “is a Scientology parishioner and holds no official or unofficial position in the Church hierarchy.”

The 54-year-old Morton, who has written books about Princess Diana, David and Victoria “Posh Spice” Beckham, Madonna and Monica Lewinsky talked about his book in an interview with the AP.

Some highlights;

AP: Why Cruise?

Morton: When I saw him jumping on Oprah’s couch in 2005, I realized the mask had slipped. Here is this man who for years has been in control and controlling. He’s been hiding behind the mask. I thought here is a window to get an insight into this man who has come from nowhere to become one of the dominating characters in the film world and elsewhere.

AP: Did you ask Cruise to be interviewed for the book?

Morton: I asked Tom for an interview and he declined. The Church of Scientology has got a very controversial reputation and that is what he is linked with. An unauthorized biography would essentially be a compromise. ... I want to investigate it without any kind of fetters.

AP: Rogers & Cowan, the publicity firm that represents Cruise, issued a statement criticizing Morton for not interviewing “one person who has known or worked with Tom” in the past 25 years? Is that true?

Morton: Well, I’ve been working on this for the last two years. I interviewed everyone from scriptwriters to producers to actors to actresses to teachers to girlfriends to pupils to Scientologists to people who have auditioned him.

AP: There have been reports that you were threatened by Scientologists while making this book.

Morton: In fairness to them (Scientologists), they haven’t harassed me. They have sent threatening legal messages as they are entitled to do.

AP: Cruise’s lawyer, Bertram Fields, says this book is “packed with lies.” What is your response?

Morton: I’ve got a reputation as a very careful biographer. ... I have spent over two years carefully researching this book. ... I think I presented a very fair and balanced portrait of an intriguing and fascinating character.

AP: How do you view Cruise?

Morton: I see him as a man who is linked to his faith of Scientology, someone who has transcended his role as a film star to become a Hollywood powerhouse and also someone who walks the corridors of power, meets presidents and prime ministers.

AP: You say in your book is that Cruise is second in command at the Church of Scientology. What evidence do you have?

Morton: Scientology would be a shadow of what it is today if it had not been for the involvement of Tom Cruise. He has been the poster boy. More than that, he has been recruiting fellow celebrities — people like Will Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith. ... More than that, he’s been the frontman for the organization. Not just bringing people in, but seeing all the politicians, the movers and shakers in society to proselytize for his faith. In a way, he has also compromised himself as an actor by some of his behavior and some of his attacks, for example, on Brooke Shields for taking drugs for postpartum depression. That alienated a lot of his fans, especially women.

What happens when they try to recruit? It is not like, here’s a leaflet, sign up. It is a slow and gradual process that could take a number of years. ... In order to give his faith some respectability, they always feel that if you get celebrities in, it brings people in. I’ve lost count of the number of people I’ve spoken to, former Scientologists who have said to me, ‘I joined because I thought if it is good enough for Tom Cruise, if it is good enough for John Travolta, then it is good enough for me.’

AP: Some of your critics say that you only interviewed disgruntled, former Scientologists and not any practicing Scientologists for the book.

Morton: I interviewed Scientologists who have left. They are not necessarily disgruntled. They are people who have spent half their lives in the organization, reaching very high levels both of personal achievement and within the executive branch. It’s not that they all have an ax to grind. They’ve all got an insight into what goes on there and Tom’s involvement in the cause.

AP: You also say in your book that Scientology is to blame for Cruise and Nicole Kidman’s break up.

Morton: What happened is that Nicole started to pull away from Scientology. She said in an interview ... that there was a little bit of Scientology in her, a little bit of Buddhism but also Catholicism. That sent alarm bells ringing inside Scientology ... and Tom was sent in and took this course which is called a PTSSP course, which is to basically anchor yourself to the faith and to treat the outside world with more suspicion because it is a self-contained, cocooned world. You become more distant from the people who no longer believe in you, who no longer believe in the faith and one of those was Nicole Kidman. Having said all that, when Nicole was sitting after the breakup and sobbing into her handkerchief and saying to her friend, “Why did he leave?” She had no real answer. ... She was always seen as somewhat of a problem because her father is a psychiatrist and Scientologists loathe psychiatry.


AP: Does Katie Holmes have a contract with Cruise?

Morton: I think ... in a way there is a parallel between her story and that of Princess Diana. Diana was enamored with Prince Charles when she was a schoolgirl, she had his picture on the wall and was telling her school friends that one day she would marry him. Similarly, with Katie, she used to tell her sisters that one day she would marry Tom Cruise. When she was on the set of “Dawson’s Creek,” she was teased mercilessly because she had this crush on Tom Cruise. When she met him ... he had her at hello. Very soon afterward, she found herself alienated from her friends. She found herself surrounded by Scientologists. She got rid of her manager. She got rid of her management.

Observers who interviewed her at the time used to call her deadeye Katie. The reason why that was significant is because she got her job as Joey on “Dawson’s Creek” in the first place because of her incredible eyes, because of the life and sparkle in her eyes. It seemed to people who were interviewing her at the time that she changed and changed significantly.
 
has any celeb ever left the cult? no one of "importance" has ever come out and said this is what happened to them

I think that Mimi Rogers left the "church". I'm not 100% on that though. If she did, she doesn't talk about it negatively. I'm sure that they have too much on her for her to talk.
 
It is the route to a well, happy, high IQ human being.




i love this part "Dianetics rests on basic principles that can be easily learned and applied by any reasonably intelligent person—as millions have. It is the route to a well, happy, high IQ human being.
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"causes you to react irrationally, say and do things that "aren't you," that describes just about every teenager in the world LOL

High IQ, aye?? Like Tom Cruise IQ-esque? I'd rather be a walking Xanax Pumped Up Dumb Butt. :laughing:

Great Quotes Kurby! Thanks! :thumbsup2
 
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