Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

[Dina]

For what it's worth-- I really believe the baby is adopted-- the adoption finally went through. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!!

Cute kid though!!

 

[kdibattista]

Yes, it certainly sounds like something an ADOPTIVE parent would say!

Ok... completely off topic but WHAT does that mean? Maybe I'm a bit sensitive and taking it out of context because we are in the process of adopting. I am completely open to the possibility that I'm reading this wrong

Sorry to take this off topic... back to your regularly scheduled Suri watch

 

[SplshMtn99]

I don't think its anything bad. Just that she's theirs now.

 

[Imzadi]

Ok... completely off topic but WHAT does that mean? Maybe I'm a bit sensitive and taking it out of context because we are in the process of adopting. I am completely open to the possibility that I'm reading this wrong

Sorry to take this off topic... back to your regularly scheduled Suri watch

kdibattista, I did not mean ANY disrespect to adoptive parents. Sorry if it sounds that way. We just have a running joke here on The Challenge that since Mimi Rogers, long ago said Tom is sterile, that most likely the baby is adopted.

I meant that any proud parent, in which the ink is barely dry on the adoption forms, and after the long process it usually takes, would PROUDLY say: "Yes sirree! She's our baby now!" Versus biological parents who might say, after 9 months of waiting, "She's finally here." But no parentage in question.


I will gladly edit my post if other adoptive parents are offended.

 

[graygables]

Ok... completely off topic but WHAT does that mean? Maybe I'm a bit sensitive and taking it out of context because we are in the process of adopting. I am completely open to the possibility that I'm reading this wrong

Sorry to take this off topic... back to your regularly scheduled Suri watch

I read that as they were over-hyping the headline and trying to convince everyone that she is biologically theirs. I didn't read it as anything snide toward adoptive parents at all. My aunt adopted 2 native American children and always said she didn't carry them under her heart, she carried them IN it. I think everyone agrees that adoptive parents are heros in their own right, but that TomKat needs to fess up since they (and their Scientology/bought off buddies) are the only ones who believe the baby to be theirs. and...with the kind of moolah he's rolling in, they could easily forge a paternity test...

 

[kdibattista]

kdibattista, I did not mean ANY disrespect to adoptive parents. Sorry if it sounds that way. We just have a running joke here on The Challenge that since Mimi Rogers, long ago said Tom is sterile, that most likely the baby is adopted.

I meant that any proud parent, in which the ink is barely dry on the adoption forms, and after the long process it usually takes, would PROUDLY say: "Yes sirree! She's our baby now!" Versus biological parents who might say, after 9 months of waiting, "She's finally here." But no parentage in question.


I will gladly edit my post if other adoptive parents are offended.

No.. please don't edit. This guy is what I threw me. I told you I was probably misreading and I did... I apologize

 

[Imzadi]

No, no, don't apologise. With my up-front, in your face, NYC attitude & style of writing, I'm sure I'm on plenty of people's ignore lists already. I'm glad I could clarify it for you instead.

 

[Poohbear123]

A Picture, finallly.....why does she look aisan? Why does Tom look weird? "When I take you out in the SURI with the Fringe on top!" I don't know why that song is in my head right now, its from that broadway show/movie.... anyone...?

 

[BeckyEsq]

I am in the process of adopting as well. I have no problem with Tom and Katie asserting that Suri is their biological child. What I DO mind is people insinuating that she is not simply because Tom has adopted in the past. To me it demonstrates a hell of a lot of ignorance about the nature of infertility.

 

[CathrynRose]

I am in the process of adopting as well. I have no problem with Tom and Katie asserting that Suri is their biological child. What I DO mind is people insinuating that she is not simply because Tom has adopted in the past. To me it demonstrates a hell of a lot of ignorance about the nature of infertility.

There's no need to get so hostile.

Might I suggest you read through this entire THREAD before you begin tossing names around - such as "ignorance".

 

[va32h]

AND - What's with that title?

"Yes, Suri, she's our baby" is undoubtedly a play on words from the old song "Yes, Sir, She's My Baby".

The only words I remember are: "yes, sir, she's my baby; no, sir, don't mean maybe; yes, sir, she's my baby now."

Adorable baby, but it does look like she's wearing a toupee. Does anyone have a photo of Chris Klein for comparison purposes?

 

[BeckyEsq]

There's no need to get so hostile.

Might I suggest you read through this entire THREAD before you begin tossing names around - such as "ignorance".

Why am I being "hostile" just because I don't agree with the majority of posters here? I have browsed this thread many times although I don't believe I've ever posted before. I am not picking on anyone individually because I understand the rumors about TC being gay or infertile are rampant far beyond this thread. I know everyone is having a lot of "fun" here at his expense but I don't see why I can't express my opinion as well.

I have yet to see a GOOD reason for believing she is not his child. I have only seen what I BELIEVE are ignorant reasons -- such as the fact that he has adopted before so he MUST BE sterile. Even if he couldn't conceive with Nicole that doesn't mean he couldn't have a biological child later down the road. Many couples' IF problems involve both parties or are completely unexplained and no one knows why these things have happened. I think it's completely insulting to suggest that a person's child is not theirs simply because they conceived a biological child after a long bout of infertility or after adopting.

ETA: I understand there are some other reasons why people believe she is not his, but most of those "clues" occurred LONG after the rumors had started (pretty much the day they announced she was pregnant). And like I said, I am not calling anyone personally "ignorant," just a line of thinking that I do believe is rampant.

 

[Imzadi]

I have yet to see a GOOD reason for believing she is not his child. I have only seen what I BELIEVE are ignorant reasons -- such as the fact that he has adopted before so he MUST BE sterile.

No, it's the fact that his first ex-wife, Mimi Rogers, in an old Playboy (I think) article declared Tom to be sterile. This was long before he adopted children with Nicole.

Many celebrity couples who are fertile have adopted kids, so the claim that Tom adopted before so he MUST BE sterile is incorrect:
Steven Speilberg & wife Kate Capshaw adopted their last 2-3 kids; Michelle Pfeiffer adopted her first child (around the same time Tom & Nicole adopted,) before later biologically having one with hubby David E. Kelley; Angelina Jolie adopted 2 kids before Shiloh. No one has claimed she had adopted Shiloh, or hid in Africa to hide the fact that she hid a fake pregnancy or adoption.

 

[Disneyland_Mama]

Wow, this is quite a thread.... I must admit, I haven't read from start to finish... just the last few pages... so be gentle.
One can never tell what a baby is going to look like. My DD4 has almond eyes, pale skin, and bone straight ebony hair. I get alot of comments from the Asian community as to her nationality. Is she Japanese, is she Filipino, is she Hawaiian? I have olive skin, big ol' eyes, & curly dark brown hair. Yes, my DD is 100% Hispanic.
Personally, I think she looks like Tom... doesn't he have almond eyes? And if he's not... oh well. It's not important to me. They do seem madly in love with that child, so where ever she came from, she's theirs now.
As far as Mimi Rogers is concerned, is she really someone to base the facts off? His EX-wife in a interview after the divorce? C'mon.

 

[BeckyEsq]

No, it's the fact that his first ex-wife, Mimi Rogers, in an old Playboy (I think) article declared Tom to be sterile. This was long before he adopted children with Nicole.

Boy, what a mean and rotten thing to say about someone. I would have to believe that she just made it up out of spite because to say it if it were TRUE would be completely heartless.

And again I understand that SOME people, and perhaps even the majority of people in this thread, are basing their belief on that statement alone. But MANY people are basing it on the mere fact that he has adopted before.

 

[CathrynRose]

Why am I being "hostile" just because I don't agree with the majority of posters here?

ETA: I understand there are some other reasons why people believe she is not his, but most of those "clues" occurred LONG after the rumors had started (pretty much the day they announced she was pregnant). And like I said, I am not calling anyone personally "ignorant," just a line of thinking that I do believe is rampant.

Then fine - Ill take ignorant. Ill take the title. My line of thinking is rampant - and it say's he's crazy and I find it quite hard to believe anything coming out of his amazing mouth.

You think it's his baby - I think it's not.

 

[CathrynRose]

But MANY people are basing it on the mere fact that he has adopted before.

Well yeah! He had 2 former lovers declare him infertile, as WELL AS HIMSELF! He credits his "auditing" on clearing up his little problem.

Suddenly he meets amazing, exciting, miracle woman, Katie - I MEAN KATE!!! - and VOILA! Impregnantes the Virgin, I might add, within weeks of dating her. Wow! Im impressed... he is a higher operating thetan now, though.... so anything is possible!

Did you just come here to argue?

 

[Beth76]

I have yet to see a GOOD reason for believing she is not his child.

Oh please. This is a fun thread and we have PLENTY of reasons to believe this is not his child. And the fact that he has adopted children is not even one of them. That's irrelavent. If you want to come onto a 130+ page thread and tear it apart, I suggest you read it first.

 

[Beth76]

And again I understand that SOME people, and perhaps even the majority of people in this thread, are basing their belief on that statement alone. But MANY people are basing it on the mere fact that he has adopted before.

And AGAIN, read the thread or stop arguing. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Disneyland_Mama]

I don't know about the name issue, but I went to the CA vital statistics and it says anyone can get a copy of a BC but it doesn't supply all the information that a BC signed for by the parents would have. As an official record, it IS available for anyone to see, but some of the more personal, identifiable info is left off the "public" copy.
I still think TC is nuts and I'm having serious doubts about there being a baby at all. I suppose time will tell.

This is not true. California Birth Certs are not public record. I know this because I am trying to get my DS's BC. I have the form and it say "Pursuant fo Health and Safety Code 103526, the following individuals are entitled to an Authorized Certified of birth record" Parent or legal guardian, result of a court order, attorney or adoption agency, law enforcement, child, grandparent, sibling, spouse or domestic partner, funeral director or estate attorney.
Can you imagine all the identity theft if they were public record?