Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[cewait]

Actually think that the jury is out on whether either are really effective. Cold shunts the microbleeds while warm promotes blood flow that carry away wastes. BOTH are beneficial.

The moral of the story may be to go with how you train. For me, I was never a believer in ice baths as I found it rather dumb and sadistic. That is unless you have a SPECIFIC issue you are dealing with and then an ice pack does the same.

I will continue with the luke warm shower to shut off the sweat glands and the a nice stretch and roll. Good enough for me. Though Sunday afternoon the pool usually looks good.

 

[jmasgat]

Training question for all you veterans! DH and I have decided to go with Hal Higdon's Intermediate 2 program for our 1st full....I know it is recommended to do the Novice program for your first, but honestly that is just not enough miles for me! My question is this: we have been doing speed work at least once a week for probably a year or so (and it's probably my favorite work out!) and this program doesn't include speed work at all! Hal says it is better to work on either increasing mileage or increasing speed but not both at the same time, which is understandable. Do you guys think we should just do the program as is or should we add speedwork once a week? I was thinking of replacing one of the easy 3-4 mile runs with either a tempo run, hills, or intervals each week instead of adding it on top, though. What do you guys think? Oh, a little more background: we have been running for about 18 months, have done 2 1/2s, and generally run between 25-30 mpw when not training for a specific race.

Thanks,
Ami

I would definitely keep speedwork and/or tempo work in the plan. I run 3x/week and I do one speedwork run, one tempo run and one long run--do this for all my training plans, including full. So you should be just fine taking one of the short ones and doing speed or tempo. (I'd be more freaked out about 5 runs/week!)

Maura

 

[cewait]

i would definitely keep speedwork and/or tempo work in the plan. I run 3x/week and i do one speedwork run, one tempo run and one long run--do this for all my training plans, including full. So you should be just fine taking one of the short ones and doing speed or tempo. (i'd be more freaked out about 5 runs/week!)

maura

+1

 

[randomiam79]

Just popping back in, anyone doing the Galloway plan from the runDisney site for experienced runners? There are 2, one for time improvement and one just to finish. Did my first marathon in 2011 but didn't follow any plan. I went back and forth on which one to do but this time I'm doing the experienced 'to finish' plan, complete with run/walk/run on the long runs. The other 2 i push the pace or speedwork fort one and bridgework for the other. This seems about right for the time i have to train.
Plus well be having baby #3 end of November so i didn't want to overcommit to training hard with that coming during peak training time.

 

[cewait]

Just popping back in, anyone doing the Galloway plan from the runDisney site for experienced runners? There are 2, one for time improvement and one just to finish. Did my first marathon in 2011 but didn't follow any plan. I went back and forth on which one to do but this time I'm doing the experienced 'to finish' plan, complete with run/walk/run on the long runs. The other 2 i push the pace or speedwork fort one and bridgework for the other. This seems about right for the time i have to train.
Plus well be having baby #3 end of November so i didn't want to overcommit to training hard with that coming during peak training time.

It s sound plan.

 

[kmg148]

Just popping back in, anyone doing the Galloway plan from the runDisney site for experienced runners? There are 2, one for time improvement and one just to finish. Did my first marathon in 2011 but didn't follow any plan. I went back and forth on which one to do but this time I'm doing the experienced 'to finish' plan, complete with run/walk/run on the long runs. The other 2 i push the pace or speedwork fort one and bridgework for the other. This seems about right for the time i have to train.
Plus well be having baby #3 end of November so i didn't want to overcommit to training hard with that coming during peak training time.

I'm doing the plan for experienced runners as well, the just to finish plan too.

I give you a lot of credit for training for a marathon while having a baby during the training! I'm sure you'll do great I'm sure!

 

[dburg30]

Interesting. While I could see that being true for muscle issues, I don't think there is any dispute about the ice bath helping joint inflammation, which is why I do it.

The current popular trend seems to be using something like the Normatec devices (leg sleeves with pneumatic pumps), but who has $1700 to spend on post race recovery equipment.

after staying at Disney for a marathon, probably no one Actually, now that I think about it, I would say staying at WDW AFTER the marathon would be my post race recovery equipment

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

I like that idea I've done a few cold water baths followed by a warm shower after some exceptionally brutal long runs in the heat last year and they seem to have worked for me with preventing stiffness in the hours and days following. I haven't tried a hot bath simply because I have never really trained that hard in the winter. Its always been summer when I've done long runs and with it being so hot and humid the last thing I wanted after a run was to sit in a warm bath Now that may change this year when I'm running long runs in November and December here in Michigan

The only thing that scares me about ice or really cold showers is if it touches my lower back. I hate anything cold there because it makes it lock up.

I'm thinking about going back to a chiropractor during my marathon training. I've felt some joint pain in more places this time around (hips, back of knee, shoulder) and feel like my body might be out of whack. I could also TOTALLY use that electric therapy on my lower back.

Anyone regularly see a chiro during training?

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[jimandami]

Thanks Coach and Maura for your help...I am making our training plan today and I like the idea of putting speedwork in with the midweek, longish run, which is flanked by two easy runs on Higdon's schedule. Or, I MIGHT move the longish run to Tues, do easy run on Wednesday, speedwork on Thursday, rest day Friday. Then Sat and Sun are a pace run and the long run...so many choices!!

Maura, this is off topic but I was just curious if you have always just run 3 days/week...even when you ran Boston? If so, that is seriously awesome!

 

[jmasgat]

Maura, this is off topic but I was just curious if you have always just run 3 days/week...even when you ran Boston? If so, that is seriously awesome!

Yup, always have. I started running at age 49 (a goal for the year of my 50th birthday was to shake up my fitness routine), and I somehow found the FIRST program outlined in "Run Faster, Run Less" (after doing a modified Higdon plan for the Minnie 15k). Being the "lazy, but competitive" type, it appealed to me! It has worked for me. Fortunately, the book had 2 marathon plans--one novice (which I did for Mickey 2010) and one more advanced--specifically for those looking to BQ (which I did to train to BQ and then train for Boston).

As we all know, you just gotta find what works for you, and so far this has.

Maura

 

[jimandami]

Yup, always have. I started running at age 49 (a goal for the year of my 50th birthday was to shake up my fitness routine), and I somehow found the FIRST program outlined in "Run Faster, Run Less" (after doing a modified Higdon plan for the Minnie 15k). Being the "lazy, but competitive" type, it appealed to me! It has worked for me. Fortunately, the book had 2 marathon plans--one novice (which I did for Mickey 2010) and one more advanced--specifically for those looking to BQ (which I did to train to BQ and then train for Boston).

As we all know, you just gotta find what works for you, and so far this has.

Maura

That's fantastic! I would love to BQ sometime in the next 3-4 years! I will see how our first full goes in Jan and then hopefully pick a program to get faster!

 

[McDuck]

DH and I went to Audubon Park this morning for out long run. I enjoyed every minute of it! Shady, live oaks, scenic! Shame we can only partake when visiting my folks. LOL We did three loops (5.4 miles) in 1:20, including bathroom break and stop at the car for fruit snacks and a new water bottle and to water the dog. It was so nice, I didn't have to do much imaginary visioning of characters or the castle.

I got my Team Gleason shirt for the Half (so I can wear it at the 5K we're doing on the 8th), but how can I add a Disney touch? DH and I are raising money for Team Gleason (for ALS patients), and they asked us to wear Team Gleason shirts in the race. The shirt is black, grey, and gold. Minnie-dot skirt in black and white or any other suggestions?

 

[randomiam79]

I'm doing the plan for experienced runners as well, the just to finish plan too.

I give you a lot of credit for training for a marathon while having a baby during the training! I'm sure you'll do great I'm sure!

HA! My wife actually will be having the baby, i just know I'm going to be doing everything on less sleep than usual. I don't think i could do the training plan if i was pregnant...come to think of it, if i was pregnant a marathon training plan would not be my biggest problem!

 

[randomiam79]

Maybe i missed this, but what's the deal with the team WISH group? I've seen the shirts before, but was curious who organizes all that and how one would join in?

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

4 miler for this week's long run - done. I love when I'm running in a light rain. As long as I have my visor keeping my glasses dry, then I'm good. I forgot to pause my run while waiting for the train bars to go up. The signals were malfunctioning and the train was stuck in the station for a good 4 minutes but I just waited while running in place. It messed up my time and I think I might have burnt out a little by trying to recover the time. Already mapped out my 13 miler for next week. The hubs and I will be waking up nice and early for that one. Here's hoping it won't be humid.

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[kmg148]

HA! My wife actually will be having the baby, i just know I'm going to be doing everything on less sleep than usual. I don't think i could do the training plan if i was pregnant...come to think of it, if i was pregnant a marathon training plan would not be my biggest problem!

LOL! I totally misread that. Regardless, that still makes following the plan difficult! Good luck wit the new baby!

 

[dreams91]

Alright, so I see drew Carey will be run I the full. Will they start him in corral A? I think it would be cool to see him out there!

 

[cewait]

Alright, so I see drew Carey will be run I the full. Will they start him in corral A? I think it would be cool to see him out there!

They usually start the celebs from A. He may be hard to catch as he has run a 4:30 something marathon and a 1:50 at last year's Disneyland. Sean A is a 2 hour halfer, also.

 

[dreams91]

They usually start the celebs from A. He may be hard to catch as he has run a 4:30 something marathon and a 1:50 at last year's Disneyland. Sean A is a 2 hour halfer, also.

Holy cow! I didn't realize he was that fast! I certainly won't catch him! Lol I'll make dh get pics.

 

[Reep]

They usually start the celebs from A. He may be hard to catch as he has run a 4:30 something marathon and a 1:50 at last year's Disneyland. Sean A is a 2 hour halfer, also.

He was at DL half last year and they actually started in him the elite corral. He was about 30 feet in front of me for the announcements. I forgot to look for him after the race started.