Official Star Wars Half Marathon Weekend - The Dark Side 2017

Granted it wasn't at the beginning of the race, but the 2015 Marathon used the same turns and I don't remember it being that much of an issue. I guess it'll just have to depend on how well the mini-waves for each of the last two corrals do at spreading out that many people.
I don't think it'll be all that bad - it's not a choke point the way the path from BW to DHS is. Nowhere near that narrow! Will folks need to slow down some? Maybe. But I can't see it being a huge problem.

Question on race protocol/politeness - I do run/walk intervals (as it seem lots do). What's the general rule with slowing to a walk? I've seen people mentioning sticking a hand out - like to the side? Or up? Or what? I'm probably over thinking this, but I got stepped on during a race once (while I was running, not walking) and it was annoying as hell. Do slower runners usually stick to the right, faster to the left?
You will hear a gazillion people say "walkers on the right, runners on the left" but that is NOT what's requested at rD races, per the race guide. They do ask that slower walkers/runners stay to the sides, faster runners/walkers toward the center. But the reality is that constantly swooping back and forth isn't safe, either. So I approach it like I drive: I pick a "lane" that's more or less moving at my speed. When I come up on someone ahead of me moving at a slower pace, I look in all 4 directions and if I'm clear, I move over a "lane" to pass. If I'm not clear, I slow down and wait until I do have a safe opening. When I want to slow down, I again look in all directions first, then change "lanes" to merge in behind other people moving slower - sometimes that works seamlessly and I can move right away, and other times I have to keep running until an opening appears so that I don't block people behind me. In crowded areas, putting a hand up (not out - up, so as not to hit anyone running past!) while looking around me is helpful, but not everyone out there knows what that means. In stretches where there's tons of open space, no need to bother with hand alerts or even moving over, but always, always look around before speeding up or slowing down.

2.) Last year I just did the Half Marathon and this year I'm running the Dark Side Challenge. Has anyone here done a back-to-back challenge before, and if so... what do you do in between the two races to minimize the wear and tear? I've got a 50-min massage scheduled for a few hours after the 10K but I'm wondering if there are other recovery tips and tricks you guys use.
My only "trick" is that I handle races weekends the same as I do training: nothing new! So if you've been on your feet all day between your back-to-back training runs, you'll probably be fine doing that on race weekend, too. For me, I need to minimize that, so I do very little between races. After the 10K, I'll go straight to my resort to eat, foam roll & stretch, shower, and rest a bit. I'll head to a park in the early afternoon for a couple rides and lunch, but that's it: I'll be back at my resort relaxing before a very early dinner and bedtime.

Thank you all for the assistance... I swore I read that guide to cover to cover but I guess I missed the line about MK being a no-park zone.

Honestly last year the guide had a lot of information that turned out to be dead wrong. They did everything possible to dissuade people driving to EPCOT because of the "massive amounts of traffic" and we drove right there no issue.

Let's just hope the buses from EPCOT to MK aren't t-h-a-t insane. I hear the buses from the resorts to the staging area are generally a big cluster.
They always suggest that people staying onsite use the buses so as to ensure parking for those staying offsite or who live locally. Last year was a fiasco because of the WWOS finish; that area was ill-equipped to handle the volume of drivers needing to get back to EP, plus they had to vacate by a certain time the are they were using for those buses. It was an epic disaster that I've never seen at any other WDW race! We're back to an EP finish this year, which rD/WDW has successfully managed well for previous Wine & Dine races, so I expect this to go more smoothly.
 
You will hear a gazillion people say "walkers on the right, runners on the left" but that is NOT what's requested at rD races, per the race guide. They do ask that slower walkers/runners stay to the sides, faster runners/walkers toward the center. But the reality is that constantly swooping back and forth isn't safe, either. So I approach it like I drive: I pick a "lane" that's more or less moving at my speed. When I come up on someone ahead of me moving at a slower pace, I look in all 4 directions and if I'm clear, I move over a "lane" to pass. If I'm not clear, I slow down and wait until I do have a safe opening. When I want to slow down, I again look in all directions first, then change "lanes" to merge in behind other people moving slower - sometimes that works seamlessly and I can move right away, and other times I have to keep running until an opening appears so that I don't block people behind me. In crowded areas, putting a hand up (not out - up, so as not to hit anyone running past!) while looking around me is helpful, but not everyone out there knows what that means. In stretches where there's tons of open space, no need to bother with hand alerts or even moving over, but always, always look around before speeding up or slowing down.

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I don't exactly care for the Hand Up usage as it still doesn't mean you're in the clear and it's putting upon everyone else to watch you. If you use it as a warning and still check to see if you're clear to stop then it's a nice added step but I always prefer where people take responsibility to make certain it's clear to make the move they want to and if not then they adjust their movements until it is ok for them to move as they want.

As I mentioned above I'll likely be only walking the 10K and will hang right because that is the predominate expectation but I do walk at a fast clip so will still have to check my "lanes" for passing.
 
Question on race protocol/politeness - I do run/walk intervals (as it seem lots do). What's the general rule with slowing to a walk? I've seen people mentioning sticking a hand out - like to the side? Or up? Or what? I'm probably over thinking this, but I got stepped on during a race once (while I was running, not walking) and it was annoying as hell. Do slower runners usually stick to the right, faster to the left?


When I use the run walk method I do a combo of what others have said. I took an elbow to the face in a race when someone suddenly stopped in front of me. I look around and make sure it is okay for me to walk and put my hand up. A race I did last year I noticed someone putting their hand up and doing a 3-2-1 count down before they started walking so I have been playing with that on some of my races when I might be in areas where it might be benefit people around me.
 
Honestly last year the guide had a lot of information that turned out to be dead wrong. They did everything possible to dissuade people driving to EPCOT because of the "massive amounts of traffic" and we drove right there no issue.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that you were able to drive there with no issues and no massive amounts of traffic because they went to the effort of dissuading people.

Let's just hope the buses from EPCOT to MK aren't t-h-a-t insane. I hear the buses from the resorts to the staging area are generally a big cluster.

I have done 3 race weekends at WDW (2xWDWMW, 1xSWDS) encompassing 9 races, all using buses from the resorts to the staging area and back. I've had absolutely no issues with them and have no hesitation about using them in the future. You hear horror stories about buses getting lost and the like, but my overall impression is that they are the tiny exception and not the rule, given the massive number of bus trips and people that have to be moved.
 

I'll add that late in the marathon this year, when we were all kinda spacey, I was in such a routine of putting my hand up, I did it without thinking in a long, wide open stretch of road. When I then looked around me before moving over, I and the few other people in the general area all laughed out loud... because there was clearly NO need to move over in either direction, let alone alert anyone that I was planning to!
 
Oh, man... I was checking out the Polynesian/TTC thing over satellite, so I took a glimpse at the route. Bad idea. There will be a big bottleneck at about .65 miles. (And maybe a slight one at 1.25 after that.) I would hope they wouldn't start the sweep timing until after everyone gets onto Bear Island Drive. It won't be as bad as last year, but not a smooth as we thought near the start. Oh, well.
I can see the spot on the map that you're talking about, but hopefully it won't be too bad. It's a lot shorter of a stretch than the path between DHS and Epcot, and it's wider.
 
When I am slowing to a walk I always put my hand up, look all around me and will speed up if needed to find a safe pocket of space to slow down. It probably looks funny to a lot of people, a quick burst of pace before slowing to a walk, but I've never had an issue with other runners so I think it works. I'm generally pretty aware of my surroundings as well (head on a swivel and no music) and that seems to help.
 
When I am slowing to a walk I always put my hand up, look all around me and will speed up if needed to find a safe pocket of space to slow down. It probably looks funny to a lot of people, a quick burst of pace before slowing to a walk, but I've never had an issue with other runners so I think it works. I'm generally pretty aware of my surroundings as well (head on a swivel and no music) and that seems to help.

We should all be this aware. Not had any issues with run/walkers that I remember but have had some with decide to cut across the road unexpectedly, or cutting in front of me right before the water station and then coming to a complete stop, or trying to 'win the race' in the crowded first 1/2 mile by weaving in and out.
 
Weekend Training:

Thursday - 3 Miles as a Run The Streets mentor
Friday - Relax day from running, well I will run 4 miles in the gym
Saturday - Official 10K in Claremore, OK as a Run The Streets mentor
Sunday - 10 Mile Run
 
I also put my hand up and signal, look around and move over as necessary when taking a walk break. I think it's just about being aware of what's going on around you. My BFF that I run with is deaf. She has cochlear implants, but only wears one when running so I'm extra careful running as she can't hear people calling out that they're passing her, etc. At Light Side a little boy cut her off and she in turn cut me off and tripped me. I literally could hear the collective sighs of the people behind me, but I managed to steady myself with her help. (Thank God because I would be so upset if my Kessel run and challenge was ruined!) I just have to be extra aware because she can't always hear and for some reason isn't as observant of what's around her.
 
How was the merchandise situation last year? I signed up after all the pre order merchandise had sold out and I won't make it to the expo until either the last minute on the Thursday or sometime on the Friday. What are the chances all the pins will be still be available to purchase?
 
How was the merchandise situation last year? I signed up after all the pre order merchandise had sold out and I won't make it to the expo until either the last minute on the Thursday or sometime on the Friday. What are the chances all the pins will be still be available to purchase?

The merchandise situation last year was bad with a lot of eBayers and speculators buying in bulk as soon as the expo opened. I got there the afternoon on the first day and almost all the magnets had been snapped up. I would not expect it to be nearly as bad this year, though. The first time RunDisney does anything tends to be much more heavily hit by the speculators.
 
The merchandise situation last year was bad with a lot of eBayers and speculators buying in bulk as soon as the expo opened. I got there the afternoon on the first day and almost all the magnets had been snapped up. I would not expect it to be nearly as bad this year, though. The first time RunDisney does anything tends to be much more heavily hit by the speculators.

Yeah, last year I got there on Friday and there were no magnets or Bondi Bands. :mad: I had pre-ordered pins, so I had those. I was able to get a shirt I liked, though. I'm hoping this year will be better, and I will be there Thursday afternoon this time, as well.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that you were able to drive there with no issues and no massive amounts of traffic because they went to the effort of dissuading people.



I have done 3 race weekends at WDW (2xWDWMW, 1xSWDS) encompassing 9 races, all using buses from the resorts to the staging area and back. I've had absolutely no issues with them and have no hesitation about using them in the future. You hear horror stories about buses getting lost and the like, but my overall impression is that they are the tiny exception and not the rule, given the massive number of bus trips and people that have to be moved.


Just trying to get a feel for when the racers will be past the 8mile mark. I want to drive to Animal Kingdom around 10am. Guessing the traffic there might still be extra heavy. Anyone want to speculate?
 
Yeah, last year I got there on Friday and there were no magnets or Bondi Bands. :mad: I had pre-ordered pins, so I had those. I was able to get a shirt I liked, though. I'm hoping this year will be better, and I will be there Thursday afternoon this time, as well.
Yeah last year was my first Disney race and I didn't get to the expo until Friday and couldnt figure out how Disney had "sold out" of all the cool stuff.
I'm hopimg it's better this year, although I still dont get why Disney doesnt just put a cap on the total amount of items you can purchase to dissuade ebayers. I guess as long as the product sells thats all theyre really concerned about in the long run.
 
not gonna lie, didnt want to look through 107 pages...but did disney ever release what the Merchandise will look like?
 
Just trying to get a feel for when the racers will be past the 8mile mark. I want to drive to Animal Kingdom around 10am. Guessing the traffic there might still be extra heavy. Anyone want to speculate?
Well last corral should go off at the latest 6:30 and the sweep clock starts after the last person with the 16 min/mile so 9:00amish probably the last runners should be through mile 8. Give or take some time, but I would think definitely by 10:00am.

not gonna lie, didnt want to look through 107 pages...but did disney ever release what the Merchandise will look like?
Noting yet. Just the Dooney's have a picture and that's on their main page. Other preorder doesn't get pictures and they usually don't post a preview till maybe day before.
 
Question on race protocol/politeness - I do run/walk intervals (as it seem lots do). What's the general rule with slowing to a walk? I've seen people mentioning sticking a hand out - like to the side? Or up? Or what? I'm probably over thinking this, but I got stepped on during a race once (while I was running, not walking) and it was annoying as hell. Do slower runners usually stick to the right, faster to the left?

Before I start a walk (or run for that matter) I raise my hand up. Generally I'll glance behind me before slowing to a walk as well.

I would just move to the side while still running, raise your hand (if it's busy), quickly glance behind you, and then start walking. There are many run-walk folks at Disney races, so most people will be familiar with the process.

You will hear a gazillion people say "walkers on the right, runners on the left" but that is NOT what's requested at rD races, per the race guide. They do ask that slower walkers/runners stay to the sides, faster runners/walkers toward the center.

I don't exactly care for the Hand Up usage as it still doesn't mean you're in the clear and it's putting upon everyone else to watch you. If you use it as a warning and still check to see if you're clear to stop then it's a nice added step but I always prefer where people take responsibility to make certain it's clear to make the move they want to and if not then they adjust their movements until it is ok for them to move as they want.

I do put my hand up, in case someone behind me is planning to pass, but IMO I agree that it's far more important to LOOK where you're going before you cross the streams.

I also try to stick with people moving at a similar pace. I walk/jog, however, I have crazy long legs, so my walk is usually at the pace of most people's jog, and my jog is the pace of most people's run.
 
I do think it is appropriate to put your hand up to indicate that you are going to slow down. But be aware of your surroundings. Get to the side and make sure no one is directly behind you. That is what I do at least. I make sure that I am not going to impact anyone else if I decide to slow down.
 












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