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[Tonyz]

Going opening day

...oh. Haha well yeah that changes things.

Just be optimistic... it will be so crowded that you probably won't be able to ride at all and not have to worry about it!

I kid of course. But the test seat is probably the best you're gonna get if you're going opening day. Actually the DIS is going to the AP event and there are a couple "bigger" guys on the podcast. Maybe they'll be able to provide you some info.

 

[AngiTN]

Not much. Many have said that larger people are going to have some issues but it likely will depend on the person. The test seat will be your best bet.

I wish I knew why they are saying that. What is the source of the "issues"? I've looked and looked at the seat and can't for the life of me figure out why it would be even a question.
Like on FJ, the harness can't come down over a large bust, that was easy to figure out were the fit problem came from.
Or the seat on FJ is rather narrow so larger hips may not fit in the molded section

 

[AngiTN]

...oh. Haha well yeah that changes things.

Just be optimistic... it will be so crowded that you probably won't be able to ride at all!

I kid of course. But the test seat is probably the best you're gonna get if you're going opening day. Actually the DIS is going to the AP event and there are a couple "bigger" guys on the podcast. Maybe they'll be able to provide you some info.

I'd have thought some of those folks went over the weekend but I guess not

We have FP so we'll get a chance to ride for sure.

 

[wilkeliza]

Thoughts on riding Flight of Passage while 20 weeks pregnant? I tweeted the Dis with a question and they said riding pregnant would be too cramped, but after seeing the ride vehicle, I think I'd be fine this early in the pregnancy. The front pad would probably hit my chest/rib cage, and my "bump" is still pretty small (3 weeks out from the trip) and is very low. There's no warning on the ride description right now, and I don't imagine I'd be any less comfortable than someone who carried their weight in their mid-section.

Just know that the official policy is that it is not okay for expectant mothers to ride. The website doesn't seem to have the warning but mobile says "...should be in good health, free from high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness, or other conditions that could be aggravated by this adventure. Expectant mothers should not ride". It is never about "fitting" with pregnancy but what might happen during a malfunction or e-stop. Your bump would get slammed into some pretty hard plastic if the estops on this thing are rough.

 

[wilkeliza]

I wish I knew why they are saying that. What is the source of the "issues"? I've looked and looked at the seat and can't for the life of me figure out why it would be even a question.
Like on FJ, the harness can't come down over a large bust, that was easy to figure out were the fit problem came from.
Or the seat on FJ is rather narrow so larger hips may not fit in the molded section

I think because of how the back restraints and leg restraints come up. No one is 100% sure where the last okay lock is since it automatically happens. It isn't like a roller coaster where you feel that first lock. So the question is can the ride restraint lock at any point like Stitch or does it have to get to a certain point when coming up before it can lock.

 

[Tonyz]

I'd have thought some of those folks went over the weekend but I guess not

We have FP so we'll get a chance to ride for sure.

I think just Craig and Cory were there this weekend. Pete, Kevin, and John are going for the AP event I'm pretty sure.

I'm not sure where the test seat is... I would assume it will be available for everyone but you might just want to check it's not only accessible in the non-FP queue.

 

[IrishNYC]

I've tried to scan for reviews but want to avoid videos if I can. Have any of these reviews addressed the size of the guest any further? Other than the 2 rather tongue in cheek comments repeated about 1 blogger never eating again and another from a CM saying about the same. Neither of these specifically address if anyone has tried and been turned away, being too big to ride, have they? When jokes are made you can't tell if it's a serious concern or just that, a joke. I realize not many have ridden yet but wondering if anyone who can't ride FJ can ride FoP or if you can't ride FJ you'll be out of luck on FoP

I wish I knew why they are saying that. What is the source of the "issues"? I've looked and looked at the seat and can't for the life of me figure out why it would be even a question.
Like on FJ, the harness can't come down over a large bust, that was easy to figure out were the fit problem came from.
Or the seat on FJ is rather narrow so larger hips may not fit in the molded section

Being Pooh sized myself, I'm a little concerned, but optimistic. Without giving anything away, in one of the videos there's a pooh sized guest going through the queue, so I'm hoping she was allowed to ride. The seat is an open U-shaped seat (more closed than say a boomerang, but more open than a U), and you fit into the U, then a seat back that comes up behind you lower than about mid-back after you're seated. I can see the issue being someone too wide to fit in the U comfortably.

Thoughts on riding Flight of Passage while 20 weeks pregnant? I tweeted the Dis with a question and they said riding pregnant would be too cramped, but after seeing the ride vehicle, I think I'd be fine this early in the pregnancy. The front pad would probably hit my chest/rib cage, and my "bump" is still pretty small (3 weeks out from the trip) and is very low. There's no warning on the ride description right now, and I don't imagine I'd be any less comfortable than someone who carried their weight in their mid-section.

I would not have done this pregnant, comfortable or not with the positioning of the front restraint, and I was not one to be super cautious about a lot of things during pregnancy. It's not about your comfort of a "bigger" belly, but the pressure on your belly with a baby inside it.

 

[GoMegGo]

Just know that the official policy is that it is not okay for expectant mothers to ride. The website doesn't seem to have the warning but mobile says "...should be in good health, free from high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness, or other conditions that could be aggravated by this adventure. Expectant mothers should not ride". It is never about "fitting" with pregnancy but what might happen during a malfunction or e-stop. Your bump would get slammed into some pretty hard plastic if the estops on this thing are rough.

Thank you. I hadn't seen anything about pregnant women in my interweb searching, so this is new and very valuable information. It's a bummer to miss out on it this year, but I guess that means we'll just have to plan another visit next year!

 

[wilkeliza]

Thank you. I hadn't seen anything about pregnant women in my interweb searching, so this is new and very valuable information. It's a bummer to miss out on it this year, but I guess that means we'll just have to plan another visit next year!

Yeah I have found mobile app seems to have it but website doesn't. I haven't seen the signs from the ride but the app seems to be the most accurate information.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I wish I knew why they are saying that. What is the source of the "issues"? I've looked and looked at the seat and can't for the life of me figure out why it would be even a question.
Like on FJ, the harness can't come down over a large bust, that was easy to figure out were the fit problem came from.
Or the seat on FJ is rather narrow so larger hips may not fit in the molded section

It's tough because I have heard from some that for 7DMT it can be very individual - so not just your size but where your "size" is ... so tough to make a blanket statement

I am sure that during the previews that info will come out about. I do recall one tweet by one media person who was on the larger side and he said he fit ok - but that is just one person and, again, will be very individual I think

At least they have the test seat out front - I've read of some embarrassing situations at 7DMT where people wait and get to the ride and then don't fit

 

[Tonyz]

Thank you. I hadn't seen anything about pregnant women in my interweb searching, so this is new and very valuable information. It's a bummer to miss out on it this year, but I guess that means we'll just have to plan another visit next year!

There's always a reason to starting planning next year's trip!

 

[FireflyTrance]

Does anyone know if child rider swap will be available as an option during the preview events? Thanks!

 

[rteetz]

Does anyone know if child rider swap will be available as an option during the preview events? Thanks!

We don't know if it will be an option during preview events however you might not even need it.

 

[AngiTN]

It's tough because I have heard from some that for 7DMT it can be very individual - so not just your size but where your "size" is ... so tough to make a blanket statement

I am sure that during the previews that info will come out about. I do recall one tweet by one media person who was on the larger side and he said he fit ok - but that is just one person and, again, will be very individual I think

At least they have the test seat out front - I've read of some embarrassing situations at 7DMT where people wait and get to the ride and then don't fit

Yeah, I'm sure there will be a lot of variables. Knowing where some of the potential issues are can make a huge difference. From what PP posted I think it's going to be ok. 7DMT for instance, never been a problem for me, even though legs and butt is an area of concern for me usually. Just isn't on the ride.

 

[rteetz]

WDWThemeparks.com did some capacity calculations.

Navi River Journey capacity is 1080-1440 per hour, at 15-20 second dispatches, averaging 6 people per boat.

Flight of Passage capacity assuming 10 minute cycle times (not ride time), will be 2304 per hour.

 

[hiroMYhero]

WDWThemeparks.com did some capacity calculations.

Navi River Journey capacity is 1080-1440 per hour, at 15-20 second dispatches, averaging 6 people per boat.

Flight of Passage capacity assuming 10 minute cycle times (not ride time), will be 2304 per hour.

So, NRJ is comparable to Pirates or Dinosaur?

FoP loading more than Soarin' in an hour?

 

[rteetz]

So, NRJ is comparable to Pirates or Dinosaur?

FoP loading more than Soarin' in an hour?

According to WDWThemeparks.com Dinosaur is roughly 1800 per hour. Not sure what POTC is. Frozen is somewhere between 1100-1200 per hour. So as expected NRJ is similar to FEA loading.

Soarin is around 2100 per hour so FoP would exceed that which is good.

 

[hiroMYhero]

According to WDWThemeparks.com Dinosaur is roughly 1800 per hour. Not sure what POTC is. Frozen is somewhere between 1100-1200 per hour. So as expected NRJ is similar to FEA loading.

Soarin is around 2100 per hour so FoP would exceed that which is good.

And this site is saying NRJ is closer to iasw in capacity. Sorry, I'm sitting in Springs so my research is hampered by people-watching.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/crooks...loperational-hourly-ride-capacity-at-wdw/amp/

 

[rteetz]

And this site is saying NRJ is closer to iasw in capacity. Sorry, I'm sitting in Springs so my research is hampered by people-watching.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/crooks...loperational-hourly-ride-capacity-at-wdw/amp/

There is no way NRJ will have a THRC of 3000. With shorter ride time and smaller boats than IASW.

 

[wilkeliza]

There is no way NRJ will have a THRC of 3000. With shorter ride time and smaller boats than IASW.

I read the boats were launching faster then IASW though. Also how many boats load and launch at the same time as IASW? It looked like 2 Navi boats load at the same time.