Official Dancing with the Stars - All Stars

[robinb]

The thing that suprises me the most about this season is that the All-Stars aren't all great. I expected 8's or 9's from most of them and that hasn't happened.

I think the dances are good but the judges are saving their 9's and 10's for the rest of the season.

 

[lorimay]

I wonder how they pair them up.

Maks deserves a win but he doesn't get the right partner ever.
But Derek always seems to get the partner who has some kind of experience.

I mean this is my opinion, correct me if I am wrong.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I wonder how they pair them up.

Maks deserves a win but he doesn't get the right partner ever.
But Derek always seems to get the partner who has some kind of experience.

I mean this is my opinion, correct me if I am wrong.

I have read that they get partnered up based on age, height, body type, and then personality. For example, Mark and Derek are two of the youngest males on the show, so they often get the younger celebs. Maks and Tony are two of the older ones, so they often get the older celebs. Chelsie is the youngest girl, so she often gets the youngest male celebrity.

I know that people think that Derek often gets a partner who has some sort of experience, but he has had his share of newbies, as well. Likewise, other pros, such as Mark, Maks, Cheryl, and Kym have also had partners with previous dance experience.

 

[robinb]

I wonder how they pair them up.

Maks deserves a win but he doesn't get the right partner ever.
But Derek always seems to get the partner who has some kind of experience.

I mean this is my opinion, correct me if I am wrong.

M-M-Maks had Mel B and Brandy both of which were excellent dancers IMO.

 

[threeboysmom]

Popularity is the 2nd factor in voting. Because it is called - first and formost in the title "DANCING with the Stars". Thus common sense would tell you that you vote for the best dancer. If there are 2 dancers that you feel OUT DANCED everybody else, then and only then, should you vote for who you like the best. And Bristol has never outdances anybody on that show, either last season or this one.



Do they really need to add the word dancer after that word favorite, for people to get it??? HELLOOOOOO.....it's a dancing show. Not a show that you just need to be there and look pretty to win. Not a show up and cook well show. Not show up and score touchdown show. It's all about the DANCING people, come on man.

Wow. No need to get so riled up. Apparently, according to you, the people who are voting have no common sense whatsoever, lol. It's obvious people are voting for their FAVORITE dancer, not the BEST dancer of that particular night. Big difference there.

Bristol is a "favorite dancer" of a lot of people even though every one of us (including the people that love Bristol) will admit she's not the BEST dancer of the group. But the show is about entertainment, like it or not. Who do we want to see again?

I personally don't vote. Have never voted. Never will. I think the whole voting thing stinks and wish they would do away with it because of this exact popularity issue.

If I can't accept that this show is based on popularity rather than actual dance skill, then time to stop watching.

 

[AustinTink]

Bristol is a "favorite dancer" of a lot of people even though every one of us (including the people that love Bristol)...

I guess what many wonder is what people love about her? She comes across as dense and arrogant at the same time, which is quite a feat. I didn't watch the reality show of hers, but apparently it proved she is not the best role model for her kid. He swears like a sailor and she laughs about it! All caught on camera. I'm trying hard to figure out what is likable about her.

 

[jen0610]

I guess what many wonder is what people love about her? She comes across as dense and arrogant at the same time, which is quite a feat. I didn't watch the reality show of hers, but apparently it proved she is not the best role model for her kid. He swears like a sailor and she laughs about it! All caught on camera. I'm trying hard to figure out what is likable about her.

For many, is as simple as - they like Sarah so by association, they like Bristol. A vote for Bristol is showing support for her mom.

I really don't see the appeal, either.

And before someone say, that I'm a Sarah hater. No, don't hate her, but don't love her either.

 

[goofy4tink]

I wonder how they pair them up.

Maks deserves a win but he doesn't get the right partner ever.
But Derek always seems to get the partner who has some kind of experience.

I mean this is my opinion, correct me if I am wrong.

While Derek has had some less than stellar dancers, and Maks some fairly decent ones, it just never seems to work out for Maks. Wish it would...just love him to pieces. Ah well.

Wow. No need to get so riled up. Apparently, according to you, the people who are voting have no common sense whatsoever, lol. It's obvious people are voting for their FAVORITE dancer, not the BEST dancer of that particular night. Big difference there.

Bristol is a "favorite dancer" of a lot of people even though every one of us (including the people that love Bristol) will admit she's not the BEST dancer of the group. But the show is about entertainment, like it or not. Who do we want to see again?

I personally don't vote. Have never voted. Never will. I think the whole voting thing stinks and wish they would do away with it because of this exact popularity issue.

If I can't accept that this show is based on popularity rather than actual dance skill, then time to stop watching.

Here's the issue....very few people in the viewing audience can actually accurately judge ballroom dancing. Sure, you can watch it and say you like it...and you can watch it and see when someone is really not great. But, I watched Joey dance his last dance, and had to agree with Len..I think Joey is a terrific entertainer but that last dance really seemed to lack 'technique'. But others think he danced very well! Unless you're a qualified judge, or ballroom dancer yourself, it's all really subjective. Not that that's a bad thing, but DWTS will never be a true dance contest...it can't be. It really is a popularity contest. How the heck do you think some of those oldie but goodies stay in so long???? And I mean really old...like Florence Henderson. Popularity. Does that make it right? Nope, but it is what it is.
When America is given the opportunity to vote in something like this, it will always become a popularity contest. That's why Sabrina went home so early the last time. She is a very good dancer and yes, I fully realize that she has had dance in her background, but she didn't deserve to go home that week.
So, we go on each week, watching some better dancers go home, while less proficient dancers stay around.

 

[Imzadi]

We like Bristol as well. This board is the only place that I have seen that people dislikes her so much. To me she improves every week. I think a lot of Bristol dislike has nothing to do with Bristol, more like what her mom does for a living.

While you like that she is dancing and improving, the dislike is that many other people are ONLY voting for her because of her connection to her mom and what her mom does for a living. That is not fair to the other dancers.

If people are voting for Kelly because they like General Hospital, Emmitt because he's with the NFL or Helio because he races cars, at least, Kelly, Emmitt and Helio are dancing. If Bristol's mom is really getting the votes, then her mom should be the one dancing on the show.

My opinion of Bristol has nothing to do with politics. Bristol is just a shining example of the new celebrity. No longer do we applaud talent. People now gain fame by making a sex tape, or having an affair, being a teen mom, being a drunk, or acting low class. Gone are the days when singers could actually sing. Actors were performers who could do anything...dance, sing, and act.

I do know that Bristol does have some fans, but I do believe some people vote because they think it makes good television.

It's now the time of SnookieLindsayKimHoney****oo. We all created that monster!

I totally think this is WHY the producers invited her back. They get a lot of publicity and talk to have her on the show.

A couple people mentioned Bristol's reality show. The news & entertainment tabloid shows don't mention it. But, every week she stays on DWTS, they mention it. The other nite, Entertainment Tonight, and HLN's Showbiz Tonight, and I think GMA, all mentioned how Bristol is still on the show. Some news shows mentioned it too.

They do that because it catches the ear of the viewers who like her mom. So it's interesting to bring it up for their that kind of viewers, not just the ones interested in dancing/entertainment/celebs. It's a win-win for the TV. They have something to talk about, hitting two types of viewers. It's a win for ABC and the show, they get extra promotion that the other dancers don't necessarily give them.

Speaking publicity-wise, not politically, I totally think Bristol will make it at least, to Election Day, if not beyond. Election Day is a Tuesday, the same as DWTS Results show nite. If Bristol stays on then the news/tabloid coverage will be, "One Palin made it through Election nite and was voted to stay on." If she loses, then the coverage will be, "Too bad for another Palin on an Election Tues." Either way, it will be a win for ABC & the show and other shows that will talk about it. Extra publicity.

WOW. Then you must not have seen the DWTS facebook page. Over 15,000 comments of dislike and foulplay and counting!!

This is exactly what I mean above. All this extra attention & publicity for the show as Bristol stays on while better dancers get booted. That's a win for ABC and the producers, even if it's unfair to the stars who are really dancing their hearts out. When the stars were told who else they'd be competing against, they had a chance to decline. So, they probably knew what they were getting into. We all saw Derek's face when Bristol made it to the finals over a better dancer.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

If people are voting for Kelly because they like General Hospital, Emmitt because he's with the NFL or Helio because he races cars, at least, Kelly, Emmitt and Helio are dancing. If Bristol's mom is really getting the votes, then her mom should be the one dancing on the show.

Oh good God, please don't put any ideas into the producer's heads! One Palin is enough.

This is exactly what I mean above. All this extra attention & publicity for the show as Bristol stays on while better dancers get booted. That's a win for ABC and the producers, even if it's unfair to the stars who are really dancing their hearts out. When the stars were told who else they'd be competing against, they had a chance to decline. So, they probably knew what they were getting into. We all saw Derek's face when Bristol made it to the finals over a better dancer.

Ha ha! I remember Derek's face too! It was 100% candid and honest shock. So funny!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[3Paige14]

I'll admit that I lurk but have been reading everyone's posts. Y'all vote for your favorites. It doesn't bother me.

I admit that I tuned into this season for only one contestant. I grew to love him his season (I liked him before though) and have stood by him through a lot in his career since then. I also got to meet him twice.
Last night was a nail-biter for the Helio fans and we're planning to step up our efforts next week on. Go Team Helio!

Also, when I tuned into watch him season 5 and didn't know what to expect from him. I was very impressed then and I'm impressed now. Also, his attitude and personality is refreshing and it's a joy to watch him. I wish there were more people in the world that can be that happy 90% of the time.


And a note to the Joey fans: I feel for y'all. He wasn't one of my favorites but he deserved to stay awhile longer.

 

[Imzadi]

Oh good God, please don't put any ideas into the producer's heads! One Palin is enough.

I saw an interview where Sarah said they actually have asked her several times. I think she said she was the one who suggested they ask Bristol instead.

They also asked the other female politician who looks like Sarah. I forget her name. I only bring this up because the show does want to have politicians on the show, like when they had former Speaker of the House, Tom Delay on.

I'll admit that I lurk but have been reading everyone's posts. Y'all vote for your favorites. It doesn't bother me.

Oh come post with us! We're pretty harmless on this thread, even when we are bickering with each other about the dancers.

 

[3Paige14]

Oh I'll try posting more.

 

[Dee77]

I have a question for those that have made predictions regarding how many more weeks Bristol will last- do you think it is because she has that big of a fan base and it will take several other contestant's fan bases to "team" up to outnumber her or do you feel that the producers are the ones calling the shots and the voting really doesn't matter?

I thought it was interesting that they added the .5 paddles this season because the judges sure were able to separate Bristol from the rest of the pack with their scores by giving other contestants whatever.5 KWIM? Also it was Carrie Ann that blatantly said that she was slamming Bristol back for ignoring the hold rule so there is flat out animosity towards that girl and I don't think the attitude from Carrie Ann was strictly because of the breaking hold thing. It felt like she was taking a stand against Bristol for far more than just breaking the rule. Don't get me wrong, I don't vote and I don't have a person picked that I have to see make it to the end or anything but as far as Bristol is concerned, she is not polished or an entertainer but she sure has pocketed some serious money lately and that I give her credit for. Plus it can't be easy to go out there week after week knowing how harshly most of America is judging her.

 

[goofy4tink]

I have a question for those that have made predictions regarding how many more weeks Bristol will last- do you think it is because she has that big of a fan base and it will take several other contestant's fan bases to "team" up to outnumber her or do you feel that the producers are the ones calling the shots and the voting really doesn't matter?

I thought it was interesting that they added the .5 paddles this season because the judges sure were able to separate Bristol from the rest of the pack with their scores by giving other contestants whatever.5 KWIM? Also it was Carrie Ann that blatantly said that she was slamming Bristol back for ignoring the hold rule so there is flat out animosity towards that girl and I don't think the attitude from Carrie Ann was strictly because of the breaking hold thing. It felt like she was taking a stand against Bristol for far more than just breaking the rule. Don't get me wrong, I don't vote and I don't have a person picked that I have to see make it to the end or anything but as far as Bristol is concerned, she is not polished or an entertainer but she sure has pocketed some serious money lately and that I give her credit for. Plus it can't be easy to go out there week after week knowing how harshly most of America is judging her.

I would like to think that the audience judging/voting is on the up and up...but who knows???
Do I think that Carrie Ann has it in for Bristol? Nope. I do think that Mark choreographed a less than stellar dance for them....and Carrie Ann called them on it. They ignored the rules...so, they got 'slammed'. Others have been in that same boat with Carrie Ann. I watched and wondered if any of the judges were going to say anything about the lack of 'hold' in that dance...and Carrie Ann did. I was happy to see that. I have nothing against Bristol, but I think she is the weakest dancer there. She just doesn't seem to be happy and it shows, every week.

 

[Lionqueen2]

I have a question for those that have made predictions regarding how many more weeks Bristol will last- do you think it is because she has that big of a fan base and it will take several other contestant's fan bases to "team" up to outnumber her or do you feel that the producers are the ones calling the shots and the voting really doesn't matter?

I thought it was interesting that they added the .5 paddles this season because the judges sure were able to separate Bristol from the rest of the pack with their scores by giving other contestants whatever.5 KWIM? Also it was Carrie Ann that blatantly said that she was slamming Bristol back for ignoring the hold rule so there is flat out animosity towards that girl and I don't think the attitude from Carrie Ann was strictly because of the breaking hold thing. It felt like she was taking a stand against Bristol for far more than just breaking the rule. Don't get me wrong, I don't vote and I don't have a person picked that I have to see make it to the end or anything but as far as Bristol is concerned, she is not polished or an entertainer but she sure has pocketed some serious money lately and that I give her credit for. Plus it can't be easy to go out there week after week knowing how harshly most of America is judging her.

I also feel that Bristol was slammed unfairly. Carrie Ann spoke of Bristol breaking the hold rule, but so did others dancers as the night went on and nothing was mentioned. Bristol may not be the best dancer, but she did a good job last night. Perhaps she didn't deserve the highest marks, but she certainly didn't deserve the marks she got. I agree that there definitely was animosity toward Bristol.

 

[robinb]

I have a question for those that have made predictions regarding how many more weeks Bristol will last- do you think it is because she has that big of a fan base and it will take several other contestant's fan bases to "team" up to outnumber her or do you feel that the producers are the ones calling the shots and the voting really doesn't matter?

I thought it was interesting that they added the .5 paddles this season because the judges sure were able to separate Bristol from the rest of the pack with their scores by giving other contestants whatever.5 KWIM? Also it was Carrie Ann that blatantly said that she was slamming Bristol back for ignoring the hold rule so there is flat out animosity towards that girl and I don't think the attitude from Carrie Ann was strictly because of the breaking hold thing. It felt like she was taking a stand against Bristol for far more than just breaking the rule. Don't get me wrong, I don't vote and I don't have a person picked that I have to see make it to the end or anything but as far as Bristol is concerned, she is not polished or an entertainer but she sure has pocketed some serious money lately and that I give her credit for. Plus it can't be easy to go out there week after week knowing how harshly most of America is judging her.

I think that Bristol won't go until there are fewer dancers to dilute the rest of the non-Bristol vote. She also might go if the Dance Duel starts up again. Last season it was from week 5 - 7. I think the half point paddles are included because the rest of the dancers (Kirstie excluded) are so darn good there is not enough of a difference between the dancers when using whole numbers.

I She just doesn't seem to be happy and it shows, every week.

No, she doesn't. She was very unhappy at the end of her season too.

 

[Straitlover]

I hope they keep the .5 paddles for future seasons, too. In fact, I think they should use .25 paddles. Towards the end, it would make the total scoring more interesting instead of everyone ending up w/ the same totals.

 

[I loveStitchnippyjon]

I also feel that Bristol was slammed unfairly. Carrie Ann spoke of Bristol breaking the hold rule, but so did others dancers as the night went on and nothing was mentioned. Bristol may not be the best dancer, but she did a good job last night. Perhaps she didn't deserve the highest marks, but she certainly didn't deserve the marks she got. I agree that there definitely was animosity toward Bristol.

I think that this just speaks to the quality of the judging. I have been hoping for years that the show replace Carrie Ann. She is no ballroom expert and always plays favorites.

 

[AustinTink]

I also feel that Bristol was slammed unfairly. Carrie Ann spoke of Bristol breaking the hold rule, but so did others dancers as the night went on and nothing was mentioned. Bristol may not be the best dancer, but she did a good job last night. Perhaps she didn't deserve the highest marks, but she certainly didn't deserve the marks she got. I agree that there definitely was animosity toward Bristol.

I honestly think they were being generous giving her 6's. The powers that be want her there for ratings, hence they won't go below 6. All of the dancers who received 7's and 7.5's didn't deserve to be separated by a few points from her. She is not even close to the same caliber as the rest.