Official 2016 Princess Half Marathon Thread

[Ariel484]

Hey guys, I'm a bit concerned about submitting my PoT. The race I ran was through racemine and the way the results page is set up you can't directly link an individual's results. Will trackshack bother to look for my last name or will they just put me in the last corral to avoid having to search?

Assuming I'm understanding what you're saying correctly...I've used just a general link before and it has worked. I tried to make it a little less work for them by linking to the age group I was in, but it didn't go directly to me.

 

[Anisum]

Assuming I'm understanding what you're saying correctly...I've used just a general link before and it has worked. I tried to make it a little less work for them by linking to the age group I was in, but it didn't go directly to me.

Yeah, this doesn't even let me link by age group but I'm glad the general link will work. I feel bad making them do the extra work though.

 

[puppytrainer]

I vaguely remember this being touched upon, but I can’t seem to find it, so maybe I imagined it. I am running only the 10k. I know for the 10k you don’t have to submit POT, but we can if we want, right? When I registered I believe I selected an 11-12 min pace. I’m running a 10K in a couple weeks. Would it be better for me to submit a POT from this 10k even though we technically don’t need to or just let it be with my estimate I entered during registration? Especially if my 10k in a couple weeks is slower than 12min/mi.? Still better to submit it vs submitting nothing, or don’t submit it because it’s slower than what I estimated my Feb pace will be? I hope I’m making sense! Thanks!

 

[kathleen27]

Hey guys, I'm a bit concerned about submitting my PoT. The race I ran was through racemine and the way the results page is set up you can't directly link an individual's results. Will trackshack bother to look for my last name or will they just put me in the last corral to avoid having to search?

For the 2015 race, I submitted a link to the full results page and I was assigned the correct corral with no problem. You enter your finish time, so they can just look for that time in the results and find your name in that area.

 

[Anisum]

For the 2015 race, I submitted a link to the full results page and I was assigned the correct corral with no problem. You enter your finish time, so they can just look for that time in the results and find your name in that area.

Oh that's a good point. Thanks for the reassurance guys!

 

[preciouspups]

I vaguely remember this being touched upon, but I can’t seem to find it, so maybe I imagined it. I am running only the 10k. I know for the 10k you don’t have to submit POT, but we can if we want, right? When I registered I believe I selected an 11-12 min pace. I’m running a 10K in a couple weeks. Would it be better for me to submit a POT from this 10k even though we technically don’t need to or just let it be with my estimate I entered during registration? Especially if my 10k in a couple weeks is slower than 12min/mi.? Still better to submit it vs submitting nothing, or don’t submit it because it’s slower than what I estimated my Feb pace will be? I hope I’m making sense! Thanks!

Hopefully someone else can answer this, but I don't see a way to change the time you gave at registration.

 

[Ariel484]

Hopefully someone else can answer this, but I don't see a way to change the time you gave at registration.

Log in to Active.com.
Go up to your name in the upper right corner and click "My Events."
Under the race that has the time you want to change, click "Edit registration information."
Scroll down to edit the pace you entered
Click "Continue."

That should do it!

 

[preciouspups]

Log in to Active.com.
Go up to your name in the upper right corner and click "My Events."
Under the race that has the time you want to change, click "Edit registration information."
Scroll down to edit the pace you entered
Click "Continue."

That should do it!

Awesome! I didn't think to do it with Active. After my 5k in October I may go change mine for the 10k.

I was trying to look up some results from the princess 2015 5k but they don't have them on the rundisney website. They have the kid's race, the 10k and half but not 5k. What's up with that?

 

[SarahDisney]

I was trying to look up some results from the princess 2015 5k but they don't have them on the rundisney website. They have the kid's race, the 10k and half but not 5k. What's up with that?

The 5K isn't officially timed (yes, there are clocks, but there's no timing chip so they don't track when you start/finish). So there's no way to get the results.

 

[puppytrainer]

Huh, I didn’t know you could change you estimated pace time either. Thanks for that info, I’ll keep that in mind. Let me clarify because I realized I wasn’t very clear. I don't think I want to change what I selected during registration. I just started running in May so at registration time I was guessing what I think I can run at come Feb and picked 11-12 min. Currently I’m training at about a 13 min mile, so come Feb I think a 12 min mile for a race is do-able. Let’s say hypothetically I run this 10k in a couple weeks and am at a 13 min mile. Is it better to not submit a slow POT for the 10k and let what I estimated during registration dictate my coral placement? Or is it better to have a POT submitted if you have one even if it’s slower than what you selected, even if what you selected is where you think you will be at race time? Will submitting a 13 min POT hurt my coral placement if I selected a 12 min mile during registration? Does having a POT trump no POT even if it’s a slower POT? If I had a dollar for every time I typed POT in this post! LOL!! Of course if I end up doing great in my 10K I’ll submit it, as well as see if I can change the estimate in my registration!

 

[DVCFan1994]

The 5K isn't officially timed (yes, there are clocks, but there's no timing chip so they don't track when you start/finish). So there's no way to get the results.

This is correct, and I have never understood why it is the way Disney does it. I get it is aimed as more of a family fun run, and and fun way to get new runners involved. But I still think timing it would be a good thing. It would give people a time to try an improved on. My daughter was disappointed she did not have an official time when we finished last year.

Does anyone know why rD has chosen not to time it? I've always thought it was weird, but never looked into it.

 

[DVCFan1994]

Are you doing the 10k exclusively? I don't think there is a way to submit a POT for the 10k if its not part of the challenge. I think they go off your predicted finish you entered at registration.

ETA: @puppytrainer I thought I quoted your post with this answer, but it didn't show up and now I can seem to edit to add it in.

 

[Ariel484]

Huh, I didn’t know you could change you estimated pace time either. Thanks for that info, I’ll keep that in mind. Let me clarify because I realized I wasn’t very clear. I don't think I want to change what I selected during registration. I just started running in May so at registration time I was guessing what I think I can run at come Feb and picked 11-12 min. Currently I’m training at about a 13 min mile, so come Feb I think a 12 min mile for a race is do-able. Let’s say hypothetically I run this 10k in a couple weeks and am at a 13 min mile. Is it better to not submit a slow POT for the 10k and let what I estimated during registration dictate my coral placement? Or is it better to have a POT submitted if you have one even if it’s slower than what you selected, even if what you selected is where you think you will be at race time? Will submitting a 13 min POT hurt my coral placement if I selected a 12 min mile during registration? Does having a POT trump no POT even if it’s a slower POT? If I had a dollar for every time I typed POT in this post! LOL!! Of course if I end up doing great in my 10K I’ll submit it, as well as see if I can change the estimate in my registration!

Are you doing the 10k exclusively? I don't think there is a way to submit a POT for the 10k if its not part of the challenge. I think they go off your predicted finish you entered at registration.

Proof of Time and Estimated Pace are different things.

@puppytrainer I think you are talking about Estimated Pace, which is what runDisney uses for corral 5K runners and 10K runners that are not doing the Glass Slipper Challenge. You're putting in what you think you can do but you don't necessarily need to have run a race to back up your estimate. Proof of Time is submitting a time from a race 10K or longer (actually giving runDisney a link - hence the "proof" in the name) for the half marathon or Glass Slipper Challenge.

I guess if it were me I'd just leave the estimated pace as it is - the race weekend is still pretty far away, so even if you do run your upcoming 10K at 13:00/mile, you would still have months until the race and who knows, maybe your pace WILL drop more during that time. But then if you get to race day and you feel like you really aren't ready for an 11-12:00/mile pace, you could always drop back a corral if you'd feel more comfortable doing so.

 

[puppytrainer]

Are you doing the 10k exclusively? I don't think there is a way to submit a POT for the 10k if its not part of the challenge. I think they go off your predicted finish you entered at registration.

ETA: @puppytrainer I thought I quoted your post with this answer, but it didn't show up and now I can seem to edit to add it in.

Proof of Time and Estimated Pace are different things.

@puppytrainer I think you are talking about Estimated Pace, which is what runDisney uses for corral 5K runners and 10K runners that are not doing the Glass Slipper Challenge. You're putting in what you think you can do but you don't necessarily need to have run a race to back up your estimate. Proof of Time is submitting a time from a race 10K or longer (actually giving runDisney a link - hence the "proof" in the name) for the half marathon or Glass Slipper Challenge.

I guess if it were me I'd just leave the estimated pace as it is - the race weekend is still pretty far away, so even if you do run your upcoming 10K at 13:00/mile, you would still have months until the race and who knows, maybe your pace WILL drop more during that time. But then if you get to race day and you feel like you really aren't ready for an 11-12:00/mile pace, you could always drop back a corral if you'd feel more comfortable doing so.

Thanks for your input, that helps clear things up. First time doing anything is nerve-wracking. Everyone here is so nice and helpful!

 

[pigletliz]

This is correct, and I have never understood why it is the way Disney does it. I get it is aimed as more of a family fun run, and and fun way to get new runners involved. But I still think timing it would be a good thing. It would give people a time to try an improved on. My daughter was disappointed she did not have an official time when we finished last year.

Does anyone know why rD has chosen not to time it? I've always thought it was weird, but never looked into it.

I'm guessing because it is touted as a family race. There are also a significant number of people who take their time during Disney 5ks for a variety of reasons. (Stopping for pictures, running with small kids, running with slower family members, etc.) No real point in tracking something when a large number of people are nowhere near the 16mm pace. I would expect that they would start tracking the 5k time if they were going to enforce it. Right now, it is probably one less hassle for them.

 

[Ariel484]

This is correct, and I have never understood why it is the way Disney does it. I get it is aimed as more of a family fun run, and and fun way to get new runners involved. But I still think timing it would be a good thing. It would give people a time to try an improved on. My daughter was disappointed she did not have an official time when we finished last year.

Does anyone know why rD has chosen not to time it? I've always thought it was weird, but never looked into it.

I agree it's a little weird - I guess because they call it a "fun run," that's their reasoning for not chipping it. They chip the January 5K for Dopey runners, but other than that, nada.

 

[DVCFan1994]

I'm guessing because it is touted as a family race. There are also a significant number of people who take their time during Disney 5ks for a variety of reasons. (Stopping for pictures, running with small kids, running with slower family members, etc.) No real point in tracking something when a large number of people are nowhere near the 16mm pace. I would expect that they would start tracking the 5k time if they were going to enforce it. Right now, it is probably one less hassle for them.

I get what you are saying, and said I figured that was the reason. I am just wondering if rD has ever specifically indicated their thinking? I have been to many 'fun runs' with far lower fees that manage to chip time.

Based on personal experience with family, I think it lessens the sense of accomplishment for some new or first time runners for rD to say that the slow general pace of the finishers in not worth timing. They still finished. No one has to stop for pictures, those that want to run or walk it for time can. Those who don't care about time, are free to go as slow as they'd like. Particularly for weekends like this where the 5k is not part of a challenge, they could easily increase the pace per mile required for the 5k and eliminate concerns of those not meeting the 16mm. I am sure they know what there real limit is for when everyone needs to be done, and they could set the bar accordingly. I still have not heard a first person story of someone getting swept from the 5k, so that limit would have to be pretty high.

It took my six year old daughter, mother and I over an hour last year with pictures, and goodness know any other time I'd be pretty unhappy with a hour long 5k. I knew going in there was no official time. But it doesn't mean I have to agree with the decision. It was my mom's and daughter's first 5k, and officially, they never did it. Now, we are all signed up again for 2016, so clearly I am not that upset about it, but, I do still question their thinking.

 

[Ariel484]

I get what you are saying, and said I figured that was the reason. I am just wondering if rD has ever specifically indicated their thinking? I have been to many 'fun runs' with far lower fees that manage to chip time.

Based on personal experience with family, I think it lessens the sense of accomplishment for some new or first time runners for rD to say that the slow general pace of the finishers in not worth timing. They still finished. No one has to stop for pictures, those that want to run or walk it for time can. Those who don't care about time, are free to go as slow as they'd like. Particularly for weekends like this where the 5k is not part of a challenge, they could easily increase the pace per mile required for the 5k and eliminate concerns of those not meeting the 16mm. I am sure they know what there real limit is for when everyone needs to be done, and they could set the bar accordingly. I still have not heard a first person story of someone getting swept from the 5k, so that limit would have to be pretty high.

It took my six year old daughter, mother and I over an hour last year with pictures, and goodness know any other time I'd be pretty unhappy with a hour long 5k. I knew going in there was no official time. But it doesn't mean I have to agree with the decision. It was my mom's and daughter's first 5k, and officially, they never did it. Now, we are all signed up again for 2016, so clearly I am not that upset about it, but, I do still question their thinking.

Agreed!

 

[pigletliz]

I get what you are saying, and said I figured that was the reason. I am just wondering if rD has ever specifically indicated their thinking? I have been to many 'fun runs' with far lower fees that manage to chip time.

Based on personal experience with family, I think it lessens the sense of accomplishment for some new or first time runners for rD to say that the slow general pace of the finishers in not worth timing. They still finished. No one has to stop for pictures, those that want to run or walk it for time can. Those who don't care about time, are free to go as slow as they'd like. Particularly for weekends like this where the 5k is not part of a challenge, they could easily increase the pace per mile required for the 5k and eliminate concerns of those not meeting the 16mm. I am sure they know what there real limit is for when everyone needs to be done, and they could set the bar accordingly. I still have not heard a first person story of someone getting swept from the 5k, so that limit would have to be pretty high.

It took my six year old daughter, mother and I over an hour last year with pictures, and goodness know any other time I'd be pretty unhappy with a hour long 5k. I knew going in there was no official time. But it doesn't mean I have to agree with the decision. It was my mom's and daughter's first 5k, and officially, they never did it. Now, we are all signed up again for 2016, so clearly I am not that upset about it, but, I do still question their thinking.

Honestly, that was just my guess. I doubt if they would officially ever say that the people aren't worth it because I don't think that is their mind set. (Again, just a guess) For all we know, it could have to do with an additional database, corrals, bib costs, etc. for the thousands of people who participated. I've done a lot of 5ks that were timed, but I have also done many that were not individually timed because they were "fun runs". It didn't mean they thought any less of the participants. They even had "I did it shirts' for the 5k this year, so maybe a chip time is in the future. I've never seen an "I did it" shirt for any other 5k race. (Disney or non Disney).

I do have first hand knowledge of a person recently swept at a rD 5k, so there must be some limit. That person was pretty upset and embarrassed, so I haven't delved into the issue to find out the time or where on the course they were picked up. I also saw people on a cart at the DL 5k a few years ago.

Anyway, congrats to your mom and your daughter on their first 5k!

 

[Ariel484]

The one thing I would wonder with them chipping the 5Ks would be whether or not the registration price would increase as a result. They are already pretty pricey!