Official 2011 Princess Half Marathon Thread - Link to new thread Post 3703!

[Cotillard]

Drink an extra cup of water.

I know. And I'm REALLY bad about drinking enough water anyway. I don't have a lot of natural thirst, so it's a challenge for me, especially when running/walking in this horrible heat.

 

[HockeyKat]

Drink an extra cup of water.

Extra water doesn't erase the calories, if you are trying to lose weight.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Extra water doesn't erase the calories, if you are trying to lose weight.

True. There are costs and benefits to any number of things. I think if you want to train and stay away from the calories, skip drinking on a regular basis. But a glass of wine for your birthday isn't going to harm anyone.

 

[cewait]

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[cewait]

True. There are costs and benefits to any number of things. I think if you want to train and stay away from the calories, skip drinking on a regular basis. But a glass of wine for your birthday isn't going to harm anyone.

EXACTLY

Let’s do a high level and very brief analysis of studies suggesting that wine is good.

• Wines and certain other spirits contain anti-oxidents that may offer a higher protection from gooey stuff (aka the fatty blockages) from sticking to the inside of blood vessels. The two primary antioxidants are flavonoids and nonflavonoids. They can also be found in other sources such as oranges, grape juice, apples, onions, tea and cocoa.
• The other key ingredient found in these studies is resver-atrol (included dash to get around dirty word sensor) which might be a key ingredient in red wine that helps prevent damage to blood vessels, reduces "bad" cholesterol and prevents blood clots. The studies are inconclusive as they are animal only studies; therefore, any correlation is completely assumed. One word of note is that the doses used in the positive studies equate to between 100 and 1,000 bottles of wine daily. There are other studies that suggest grape juice would have a similar outcome.
• There are limited studies weighing the difference in benefit between consumption of these ingredients versus a well planned exercise routine. In these studies a slight benefit may occur but only in the first 20 minutes…. Then all the side effects negate the benefit and create disbenefits.

In all seriousness the thought the wine is good for the heart is the result of sound bite reporting. There are medical studies supporting suggestions that it may be good but no definitive study that it actually is. One could make a case that the increase in carb could increase the levels of triglycerides in the blood stream. Consuming alcohol should really a social activity.

The thread discussion was on the subject of the use of alcohol during training and whether it may have contributed to a slide in body weight. From an athletic perspective the facts are

• a drink is a source of 100-250 Kcal;
• the Kcal are empty and actually have a potential for a negative impact on a training/weight loss routine (the reason they count as a fat);
• alcohol is a diuretic and a negative on hydration;
• it may have a negative metabolic impact for days after consumed; and
• it lowers ones guard so that Kcal consumption may increase through the intake of crisp, salty snacks.

I am not a teetotaler but my consumption will go down through marathon season – nearly to zero – most definitely to no more than a half glass of wine a week (really one every other weekend and only after the house (body) i taken care of.

As a twisted side note, I have a Saturday morning spin class. I love to get off the bike and ‘engage’ my riders. I can tell who partied the night before from smell only….then there are the eyes! I love it when we are working an anaerobic interval morning. I go get the trash can and challenge them to use it.



Dark Chocolate Anyone? Did anyone notice the recent study that, while supporting dark chocolate could be a heart healthy item, most folks over do intake. In effect, the study suggests that the balance between Kcal and positive heart impact is only 1 piece three times a week.

 

[need_a_Disney_fix]

Coach, again...thank you so very much. This is very important information that I needed to hear.

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

With all that said....After the Half,
we must stop at goofy's candy factory for dark chocolate

 

[cewait]

With all that said....After the Half,
we must stop at goofy's candy factory for dark chocolate
while we are on our way to Jelly Rolls to get Hammered.!!!!!

For me its a stop at Ghirardelli for a white chocolate mocha on the way our of town. OK it is not dark chocolate but is a high Kcal event

 

[need_a_Disney_fix]

For me its a stop at Ghirardelli for a white chocolate mocha on the way our of town. OK it is not dark chocolate but is a high Kcal event

That is a must stop for us...must get our free sample!

 

[es45]

EXACTLY

Let’s do a high level and very brief analysis of studies suggesting that wine is good.

• Wines and certain other spirits contain anti-oxidents that may offer a higher protection from gooey stuff (aka the fatty blockages) from sticking to the inside of blood vessels. The two primary antioxidants are flavonoids and nonflavonoids. They can also be found in other sources such as oranges, grape juice, apples, onions, tea and cocoa.
• The other key ingredient found in these studies is resver-atrol (included dash to get around dirty word sensor) which might be a key ingredient in red wine that helps prevent damage to blood vessels, reduces "bad" cholesterol and prevents blood clots. The studies are inconclusive as they are animal only studies; therefore, any correlation is completely assumed. One word of note is that the doses used in the positive studies equate to between 100 and 1,000 bottles of wine daily. There are other studies that suggest grape juice would have a similar outcome.
• There are limited studies weighing the difference in benefit between consumption of these ingredients versus a well planned exercise routine. In these studies a slight benefit may occur but only in the first 20 minutes…. Then all the side effects negate the benefit and create disbenefits.

In all seriousness the thought the wine is good for the heart is the result of sound bite reporting. There are medical studies supporting suggestions that it may be good but no definitive study that it actually is. One could make a case that the increase in carb could increase the levels of triglycerides in the blood stream. Consuming alcohol should really a social activity.

The thread discussion was on the subject of the use of alcohol during training and whether it may have contributed to a slide in body weight. From an athletic perspective the facts are

• a drink is a source of 100-250 Kcal;
• the Kcal are empty and actually have a potential for a negative impact on a training/weight loss routine (the reason they count as a fat);
• alcohol is a diuretic and a negative on hydration;
• it may have a negative metabolic impact for days after consumed; and
• it lowers ones guard so that Kcal consumption may increase through the intake of crisp, salty snacks.

I am not a teetotaler but my consumption will go down through marathon season – nearly to zero – most definitely to no more than a half glass of wine a week (really one every other weekend and only after the house (body) i taken care of.

As a twisted side note, I have a Saturday morning spin class. I love to get off the bike and ‘engage’ my riders. I can tell who partied the night before from smell only….then there are the eyes! I love it when we are working an anaerobic interval morning. I go get the trash can and challenge them to use it.



Dark Chocolate Anyone? Did anyone notice the recent study that, while supporting dark chocolate could be a heart healthy item, most folks over do intake. In effect, the study suggests that the balance between Kcal and positive heart impact is only 1 piece three times a week.

So much for that Lapu Lapu I was planning to have on Saturday night at the Poly. Sounds like I need to rethink some of my dietary habits and sooner than I thought. Thanks for posting; this is the kind of information people new to marathon training need.

 

[need_a_Disney_fix]

So much for that Lapu Lapu I was planning to have on Saturday night. Sounds like I need to rethink some of my dietary habits and sooner than I thought. Thanks for posting; this the kind of information many people new to the whole marathon training need.

I am so glad I am not the only one.

 

[Cotillard]

I'd rather have wine than chocolate but 100-1000 bottles daily?

So much for that Lapu Lapu I was planning to have on Saturday night at the Poly. Sounds like I need to rethink some of my dietary habits and sooner than I thought. Thanks for posting; this is the kind of information people new to marathon training need.

Well said.

I've given up most alcohol before and it's helped me shed weight. I was drinking too much anyway, at LEAST 2 glasses of wine every single evening. Sometimes 4 glasses. If I'm going to continue to train to run a half marathon, that # will have to get down to 1 or 2 per WEEK.

cewait, I know what you mean about that smell! I used to take karate and on our sparring days I often was the beneficiary of MAJOR fumes from one of my classmates. It was nauseating.

 

[HockeyKat]

[*]The other key ingredient found in these studies is resver-atrol (included dash to get around dirty word sensor)

I sat and looked at the word for about 5 minutes trying to figure out which dirty word that it could be, and I still really haven't. Maybe I am less sailor-mouth than I previously thought?


Thanks for the information! All stuff I knew/suspected but could in no way, shape, or form have put it that well.

 

[MeredithRX]

At the risk of sounding prudish...

I guess I'm glad I don't drink!

Now, chocolate is a whole other thing!

 

[MamaCrush]

This thread has me SO excited about the Princess half. My goal is to run it but I may need to run/walk. Or I may run the 5K and walk the Half. I am on Week 5 of C25K and loving it. My next run is Week 5, Day 3 in which I'll run for 20 min. straight. Today's run was 8 min. of running, twice. I've never run for that long in my life. It is blowing my mind!
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I'm on the same training week as you! My Week 5/Day 3 run is tonight... but I'm going to run for two miles even though it WILL take me longer than 20 minutes to do so! This week 5 has been a real turning point for me because, like you said, I have never run this far in my entire life. I'm training to run the 5K in Magic Kingdom on Oct 2 during the Food & Wine Half weekend, and then start training for the Princess Half. (gulp!)

Good luck with your training!

 

[MamaCrush]

At the risk of sounding prudish...

I guess I'm glad I don't drink!

Now, chocolate is a whole other thing!

Does that 1 piece we're supposed to eat every 2-3 weeks weigh 8 ounces by any chance???

 

[joan4mickey]

I feel like my day is not complete until I've had my chocolate

 

[cewait]

I sat and looked at the word for about 5 minutes trying to figure out which dirty word that it could be, and I still really haven't. Maybe I am less sailor-mouth than I previously thought?


Thanks for the information! All stuff I knew/suspected but could in no way, shape, or form have put it that well.

let me take the dash out

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I assume this is the result of being censored

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Can you do Shots?? if you chase it with a glass of water?

Tequila anyone???

 

[Cotillard]

This thread has me SO excited about the Princess half. My goal is to run it but I may need to run/walk. Or I may run the 5K and walk the Half. I am on Week 5 of C25K and loving it. My next run is Week 5, Day 3 in which I'll run for 20 min. straight. Today's run was 8 min. of running, twice. I've never run for that long in my life. It is blowing my mind!

I'm on the same training week as you! My Week 5/Day 3 run is tonight... but I'm going to run for two miles even though it WILL take me longer than 20 minutes to do so! This week 5 has been a real turning point for me because, like you said, I have never run this far in my entire life. I'm training to run the 5K in Magic Kingdom on Oct 2 during the Food & Wine Half weekend, and then start training for the Princess Half. (gulp!)

Good luck with your training!

Thank you and good luck to you as well. I think it's amazing that you and I are in the same boat Isn't it an awesome feeling?
I wish I could do the Oct. 2d 5K but I can't be there then. I'm going to do a local 5K mid-October and either the Myrtle Beach half (walk/run) or their 5k near the end of October. My big, big goal, is the princess half b/c seeing photographs from it is what gave me the idea to train in the first place

Enjoy your run tonight!