Offical Hurricane Frances thread!

DCL called me just a few minutes ago. The representative said about the same thing yours did, TexasGirl. I told her we were driving in from Virginia, and she asked if we were driving in on Saturday (9/4) or if we were headed that way Friday.

We are on the 9/5 Wonder, and it had been our plan to leave early Saturday morning, but I think we may leave Friday night, now, and head as far south as possible. We don't want to drive in hurricane weather, but we don't want to be late getting there, either.

She also took our cell phone numbers and asked where we would be staying. I asked her if we should consider booking a room in Tampa, too, just in case, but she wouldn't say anything about that. I'm sure she didn't want to commit for fear of being held to it if we didn't end up in Tampa. She did tell me she felt like they would have a definite answer by Friday...

Anyway, we're just enjoying the sunshine up here and praying God will spare Florida. They've had enough already this year!

Shannon
 
I just got my call too. seems like they are just checking to see where they can find you if there are any changes.
She ended with "Have a great cruise"
WELL, I HOPE SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
DuncanLL, Castaway Cay is south east of Grand Bahama island and west of the south tip of Abaco and right now the track of Frances goes directly over Castaway Cay. Lets hope it turns before then or our Disney Island may be out of commission for awhile.
 
I hope all of you who are going to be on these cruises this week and weekend stay safe. I also hope you have a great cruise.
 

I hope all of you who are going to be on these cruises this week and weekend stay safe. I also hope you have a great cruise.
 
I hope all of you who are going to be on these cruises this week and weekend stay safe. I also hope you have a great cruise.
 
Holy Moly! I just looked at the 5 pm NHC update and it is heading strait for Pt. Canaveral, or at least where I think we were when we went to Pt. Canaveral. We are sailing on Saturday, but a different ship this time. Wherever we are in FL, it sounds like it will be wet. At least Disney is contacting passengers. Holland America won't answer any questions other than to say nothing will be decided until the VERY last minute. No advance notification.
 
They have lowered the projected path again at 5 pm to now hit lower in Florida at 2 pm on Saturday, right around the Cocoa Beach/Port Canaveral area.
Again, it's only Tuesday and things can change dramatically over the next few days so make different plans and be ready for anything.
This is just what Florida needs, another massive hurrican within a 3 weeks span. I hate to see what my homeowner's insurance is going to go up. I just got an $800 increase from last year and that arrived right prior to Charley visiting us. Forget about it now.....
 
I have not read everyone's responses in a few hours b/c of DD4 dance class..here is the 5pm advisory.

000
WTNT31 KNHC 312044
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE FRANCES ADVISORY NUMBER 28
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM AST TUE AUG 31 2004

...SEVERE HURRICANE FRANCES HEADING FOR THE BAHAMAS WITH 140 MPH
WINDS...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS...
WHICH INCLUDES ACKLINS...CROOKED...INAGUAS...MAYAGUANA
AND RAGGED ISLANDS...AND FOR THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS WHICH
INCLUDES CAT...EXUMAS...LONG ISLANDS...RUM CAY AND SAN SALVADOR.

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION IN THE
WARNING AREA. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT THE NORTH COAST OF THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM PUNTA GORDA WESTWARD TO MANZANILLO BAY.

AT 5 PM AST...2100Z...THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR PUERTO RICO...
CULEBRA...VIEQUES AND THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS OF ST. THOMAS...ST.
JOHN AND SURROUNDING ISLANDS...AND FOR THE BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS
HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED.

FRANCES HAS BEEN TRACKED WITH A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT...SATELLITE
IMAGES...AND RADAR FROM PUERTO RICO. AT 5 PM AST...2100Z...THE
DISTINCT EYE OF HURRICANE FRANCES WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 20.5
NORTH...LONGITUDE 65.9 WEST OR ABOUT 145 MILES... 235 KM... NORTH
OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO.

THE FORWARD SPEED OF HURRICANE FRANCES HAS INCREASED AND THE
HURRICANE IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 17 MPH...28 KM/HR. A
TURN TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED TONIGHT WITH A GRADUAL
DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THIS TRACK...THE CORE OF THE
HURRICANE WILL BE PASSING NEAR OR OVER THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS
...AND THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 140 MPH...220 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY ARE EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 70 MILES...110 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 175 MILES...280 KM.

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED BY A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS
939 MB...27.73 INCHES.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES...LOCALLY HIGHER...ARE STILL
POSSIBLE OVER PORTIONS OF PUERTO RICO AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS IN
ASSOCIATION WITH FRANCES TODAY.

LARGE AND DANGEROUS WAVES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE NORTH COAST OF
HISPANIOLA.

REPEATING THE 5 PM AST POSITION...20.5 N... 65.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 17 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...140 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 939 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 8 PM AST FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 PM
AST.

FORECASTER AVILA
 
Originally posted by A Mickeyfan
Charley not a big one??? What news did you watched... Charley was a cat 4, only one worse is a 5!!! I am 15 miles south of Punta Gorda where the eye went thru... not big...there is nothing left in that town... they are devistated. Even the hospitals suffered damage... the wall of the eye hit Pine Island & the rest of Lee County's barrier islands suffered major damage...still many without electric 2 weeks later...the storm was so strong it entered by be & swept clear thru the state, exited out by Daytona with damage in every county it hit! There was more widespread damage with Charley than Andrew in 92 & that was a cat 5 storm...so if you don't think Charley was a big one...come visit my coast

Wind Gust at a Punta Gorde Hospital was recorded at 180 mph - CAT 5 strength. How much BIGGER do you want?
 
Spoke to my All Seasons agent and President of the company (Chuck Maida) several times during today - they called me to reassure me that so far there had been no changes and to confirm the telephone numbers, hotel reservations and flight plans.

Could not feel any better than I do right now about their excellent service - Chuck and Sandi have done a great job in reassuring me and helping me to keep things in check!!! And this isn't easy when they are also going on a well-deserved vacation and live in Jacksonville (where the hurricane may have a direct hit).

Chuck assured me that Disney will take the extra step to make sure that we get to and on the ship in spite of the weather.

Rae
 
Originally posted by cjsmith
They have lowered the projected path again at 5 pm to now hit lower in Florida at 2 pm on Saturday, right around the Cocoa Beach/Port Canaveral area.
Again, it's only Tuesday and things can change dramatically over the next few days so make different plans and be ready for anything.
This is just what Florida needs, another massive hurrican within a 3 weeks span. I hate to see what my homeowner's insurance is going to go up. I just got an $800 increase from last year and that arrived right prior to Charley visiting us. Forget about it now.....

in 12 hours time it went from West Palm Beach to Jacksonville to an area between Titusville and Daytona and will problem change with each forecast util at least Thursday evening.
 
cjsmith--who is your insurance carrier...we had a huge increase last year and we have USAA---they said they were one of the last insurance companies to make final adjustments in their rates and they held off for long as possible.

Post Charley--the word in the insurance industry was that we shouldn't see any huge jumps and lost carriers as post-Andrew. They were better prepared financially for Charley. Not sure they were counting on 2 hurricanes in 2 weeks though.

I just pray I have a house to insure when it is all over.

The 5pm news translated the projection and actually said the current track landfall is for Daytona Beach--but we are well within hurricane/tropical storm wind range if that is the case.

Blessings to all.

It is a mad house--there was a 4 hour plus wait for plywood at home depot--luckily we have 3 sheets already. If those go up easy--counting on maybe waking up super early and being in line at the store when it opens--but I'll have to seriously think about that.

I was able to get my tarps--it was funny b/c the employee at Ace hardware (home depot was out of tarp) asked me what size I needed and I said I didn't know. He said what are you covering. I said nothing yet--it's for my roof and such afterwards in case of damage. And he said OH--well then I don't know what size you need either :hyper: It was funny at the time--settled on some pretty large tarps as we have "tent" sized tarps for our tent and a larger tarp that is intended for an awning--so just wanted to add to my collection to be able to cover holes and such that might occur.

FOR THOSE WHO CHANGE TRAVEL PLANS (sorry for the shouting--wanted you to see it)...MAKE SURE YOU CALL AHEAD FOR YOUR HOTEL RESERVATIONS, LIKE NOW--HOTELS ARE BOOKING UP FAST--Someone from dance class was having trouble finding a room and then she used her entertainment coupon book as they have an inventory of rooms that would otherwise show up as booked when you call the hotel directly. She was able to book her room that way.

Weather forecast is for landfall on Saturday--but starting to get breezy and yucky on Friday--of course all subject to change.
 
Originally posted by fknaut
Wind Gust at a Punta Gorde Hospital was recorded at 180 mph - CAT 5 strength. How much BIGGER do you want?

Let's please keep the topic to the present situation in Florida--or charley cleanup...

We have already settled the issue with the person who made the initial Charley statement--they unfortunately did not know the facts regarding the hurricane and hadn't kept up with it--and I think somewhere they apologized. It was a mistake and they were not trying to trivialize what happened in Charlotte County Florida.

Let's keep it clean and helpful.

Thanks...
off my soapbox.
 
As a FLoridian with her house possibly threatened by Frances...I laughed at this and so can you.....ENJOY!!!!


FLORIDA HURRICANE PREPARATION
> > >
> > > You all should be aware of hurricane preparations, but in case you
>
> > > need a refresher course: We're about to enter the peak of the
> > > hurricane season. Any minute now, you're going to turn on the TV
> and
>
> > > see a weather person pointing to some radar blob out in the
> Atlantic
>
> > > Ocean and making two basic meteorological points.
> > >
> > > (1) There is no need to panic.
> > > (2) We could all be killed.
> > >
> > > Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Florida. If
> > > you're new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to
>
> > > do to prepare for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big
> > > one."
> > >
> > > Based on our insurance industry experiences, we recommend that you
>
> > > follow this simple three-step hurricane preparedness plan:
> > >
> > > STEP 1: Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family
>
> > > for at least three days.
> > >
> > > STEP 2: Put these supplies into your car.
> > >
> > > STEP 3: Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Halloween.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow
> this
>
> > > sensible plan. Most people will foolishly stay here in Florida.
> > > We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness
> > > items:
> > >
> > > HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE: If you own a home, you must have hurricane
> > > insurance. Fortunately, this insurance is cheap and easy to get, as
>
> > > long as your home meets two basic requirements:
> > >
> > > (1) It is reasonably well-built, and
> > > (2) It is located in Wisconsin
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, if your home is located in Florida, or any other
> area
>
> > > that might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies
>
> > > would prefer not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they
>
> > > might be required to pay YOU money, and that is certainly not why
> > > they got into the insurance business in the first place. So you'll
>
> > > have to scrounge around for an insurance company, which will charge
>
> > > you an annual premium roughly equal to the replacement value of
> your
>
> > > house. At any moment, this company can drop you like used dental
> > > floss.
> > >
> > > SHUTTERS:
> > >
> > > Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the windows, all
> > > the doors. There are several types of shutters, with advantages and
>
> > > disadvantages:
> > >
> > > Plywood shutters: The advantage is that, because you make
> them
>
> > > yourself, they're cheap.
> > >
> > > Sheet-metal shutters: The advantage is that these work well,
>
> > > once you get them all up. The disadvantage is that once you get
> them
>
> > > all up, your hands will be useless bleeding stumps, and it will be
>
> > > December.
> > >
> > > Roll-down shutters: The advantages are that they're very easy
>
> > > to use, and will definitely protect your house. The disadvantage is
>
> > > that you will have to sell your house to pay for them.
> > >
> > > Hurricane-proof windows: These are the newest wrinkle in
> > > hurricane protection: They look like ordinary windows, but they can
>
> > > withstand hurricane winds! You can be sure of this, because the
> > > salesman says so. He lives in Nebraska.
> > >
> > > Hurricane Proofing your property: As the hurricane
> approaches,
>
> > > check your yard for movable objects like barbecue grills, planters,
>
> > > patio furniture, visiting relatives, etc... you should, as a
> > > precaution, throw these items into your swimming pool (if you don't
>
> > > have a swimming pool, you should have one built immediately).
> > > Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn these objects into deadly
>
> > > missiles.
> > >
> > > EVACUATION ROUTE:
> > >
> > > If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation
> route
>
> > > planned out. (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area,
> > > look at your driver's license; if it says "Florida," you live in a
>
> > > low-lying area.) The purpose of having an evacuation route is to
> > > avoid being trapped in your home when a major storm hits. Instead,
>
> > > you will be trapped in a gigantic traffic jam several miles from
> > > your home, along with two hundred thousand other evacuees. So, as a
>
> > > bonus, you will not be lonely.
> > >
> > > HURRICANE SUPPLIES:
> > >
> > > If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies. Do not buy
>
> > > them now! Florida tradition requires that you wait until the last
> > > possible minute, then go to the supermarket and get into vicious
> > > fights with strangers over who gets the last can of cat food. In
> > > addition to food and water, you will need the following supplies:
> > >
> > > 23 flashlights. At least $167 worth of batteries that turn
> > > out, when the power goes off, to be the wrong size for the
> > > flashlights.
> > >
> > > Bleach. (No, I don't know what the bleach is for. NOBODY
> knows
>
> > > what the bleach is for, but it's traditional, so GET some!)
> > >
> > > A big knife that you can strap to your leg.
> > > (This will be useless in a hurricane, but it looks
> > > cool.)
> > >
> > > A large quantity of raw chicken, to placate the alligators.
>
> > > (Ask anybody who went through Andrew; after the hurricane, there
> > > WILL be irate
> > > alligators.)
> > >
> > > $35,000 in cash or diamonds so that, after the hurricane
> > > passes, you can buy a generator from a man with no discernible
> > > teeth.
> > >
> > > Of course these are just basic precautions. As the hurricane draws
>
> > > near, it is vitally important that you keep abreast of the
> situation
>
> > > by turning on your television if you have a generator that's
> working
>
> > > t keep the tv going and watching TV reporters in rain slickers
> stand
>
> > > right next to the ocean and tell you over and over how vitally
> > > important it is for everybody to stay away from the ocean.
> > >
> > > Good luck and remember: It's great living in Paradise
 
this is based on the 11am advisory--just so you know what the thinking is for East Coast Florida. The key in this statement is the distance Frances will be from the coastline--this is NOT an official statement, just the words of a friend of a friend who works at a facility with billions of dollars of equipment on the line.

This is aimed for my florida friends on the east coast especially those who live on the barrier islands.

He sent it to his church friends, one of whom is our daughter's godfather. He forwarded it to us and to other friends.


I hope everyone is treating Frances as a DEADLY serious threat. All our
> computer models continue to show Frances over or very close to Brevard
> on Saturday. Do not be deceived if updated models seem to take Frances
> more east or more south and then breath a sigh of relief. Models are
> bouncing all over and will continue to do so, but two facts remain--it
> is and likely will remain a deadly Category 4 (maybe a 5), and most of
> the bounces end up very close to us. The 1100 update takes Frances about
> 30 miles off our coast--that's in the eye wall with winds forecast at
> 145 sustained with gusts to 167 MPH!
> Planning to stay in your home for Frances is extremely risky and
> foolish. Storms of this size and intensity can bend thick steel eye
> beams. Hopefully track will change, but you should plan otherwise.
>
> Pray hard and prepare now!!
 
Lisa, I'm with Nationwide. She did tell me that they finally caught up to everyone and that they were ready for Charley. I highly doubt that they're ready to have another Cat 4, possibly Cat 5 hurricane hit within weeks though.

I have friends who are due back on Sat on the Caribbean Princess, it will be interesting to see how they get back as well.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for all of you over on the east coast and us on the west coast as well. Charley was scary and I don't wish that on anyone.
 
Aah--so USAA was one of the last and so was Nationwide...hmmm...

Our premium doubled---we thought we were doubled charged and called and they said unfortunately, no :(

I concur on the double whammy--insurance next year is sure to skyrocket :(
 

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