October 20th 2007 Western Magic Part 8

[Scouter]

Macs bangs have been cut after some drama. I hate the drama stage of life. I just hope she grows out of it. Kelsey still seems to be very into the drama and I hate it.

Believe me working in one, middle school is all about the drama.

You know, is that a girl thing? Because my son doesn't have that....
only the know it all arrogance.
Actually he makes me crazy when I tell him something so many times that I get to the point of being so frustrated I scream at him...
then he starts with this....
"Mom are you ok? I think you need to calm down, you're very upset and I am afraid that there is really something wrong with you, I am worried about you and maybe you need to go on meds"

Oh, I so want to smack him right then.... but I just somehow leave and go have a nice big glass of wine

 

[Scouter]

If you don't mind me asking you again. What were the names of those books that you recomended to us. I lost the paper I wrote them down on. They were the ones for um spicing up the practicing so to speak. Or as DH would put it at least getting some practicing. I am a little out of touch with that end of the practicing.

Carrie, I'll pm you, I remember 2 but I might have to look at Amazon again to jog my memory. I'll get to that tomorrow.

 

[Scouter]

I have thought about that also but Scott would not leave them behind and they know that. Originally this cruise was supposed to be for 3 of us. But he was not willing to leave them home. Now the kids know that no matter what they do they will get to go.

Yeah, I actually thought of leaving Sean at home, then he wouldn't miss school either. But I felt guilty for leaving him out so I asked him what he wanted to do hoping he'd say he didn't want to come, but no, he wanted to.... just to miss school.

I've already warned him that if he cannot be civil to Bob during dinner times and not say something rude (which he has in the past.... like "I am not even listening to you or it doesn't matter to me what you think").... then he should just have dinner at one of the buffets or stands by the pools or order room service because I will not let he and Bob's issues together ruin our cruise.
I've told him that I've spent far too much money for that to happen

 

[Scouter]

Saw movie Michael Clayton this afternoon!
4 thumbs up!

Love George Clooney, Love Tom Wilkinson, Love Tilda Swinton
Great movie, go see it!

 

[JLDSMD]

ONE LAST TIME!!!!


THE NEXT TIME SHE PASSES THIS CAMERA IN THIS DIRECTION, WE WILL BE ON IT!!!!!!

 

[My3sonscruisn]

So we are getting things together and we are wondering about the following:

2 way radios- do they work? Worth bringing?

Inflatable rafts and tubes. Any need for these in the pool or at the beach?

Any last minute tips for us first timers regarding things to pack?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Thanks-

 

[MinnMick01]

You know, is that a girl thing? Because my son doesn't have that....
only the know it all arrogance.
Actually he makes me crazy when I tell him something so many times that I get to the point of being so frustrated I scream at him...
then he starts with this....
"Mom are you ok? I think you need to calm down, you're very upset and I am afraid that there is really something wrong with you, I am worried about you and maybe you need to go on meds"

Oh, I so want to smack him right then.... but I just somehow leave and go have a nice big glass of wine

Oh we have the know it all attitude out of Kelsey also. To the point that she will yell at you at full volume because you are trying to tell her something and she feels that she is right and we are wrong. Never, down the road, do we get hey guys you were right, or maybe I was wrong. The famous one I like is the fact that she has a D+ in her lanuage class, and a C in her spanish class. We keep telling her that she needs to ask us for help on the things that she does not know or understand. She gets really mad at us and says that she does not need help that she knows how to do it. So then we tell her if you know if then your grades would not be low. So she tells us again and again that she knows the work just the teachers hate her.

 

[MinnMick01]

Carrie, I'll pm you, I remember 2 but I might have to look at Amazon again to jog my memory. I'll get to that tomorrow.

Thank you I would appreciate it. If you want you can just pm me the subject to look under and I can look through them. I am really naive when it comes to this kind of thing.

 

[MinnMick01]

Yeah, I actually thought of leaving Sean at home, then he wouldn't miss school either. But I felt guilty for leaving him out so I asked him what he wanted to do hoping he'd say he didn't want to come, but no, he wanted to.... just to miss school.

I've already warned him that if he cannot be civil to Bob during dinner times and not say something rude (which he has in the past.... like "I am not even listening to you or it doesn't matter to me what you think").... then he should just have dinner at one of the buffets or stands by the pools or order room service because I will not let he and Bob's issues together ruin our cruise.
I've told him that I've spent far too much money for that to happen

Normally it is the kids that have something to say about me. And yes they pick the most inappropriate times to do it. Lately I have been off the hook and they just yell that they hate it here and they don't want to live here. I am so afraid of them doing something during dinner because they know they can get a lot of peoples attention including that of my parents. I am so worried about the way they will act. I know once we are on the ship we won't se them much but our days of traveling are going to be hard. To them everything has to be fair. If one gets water and one get soda that is not fair. But now it has gotten to things have to be fair between the 3 of them. Who gets the window seat when. Who has to sleep on the floor at Grandma's house, who has to sleep on the floor at the hotel, who gets to sleep in Grandma and Grandpas room on the ship the most. It drives me nuts. Oh and if we buy any of them anything it has to be the same purchase price spent on each of them. Scott and I do not accomidate to this much but it causes lots of problems because we don't. Their mom has really set them up for that one. If Kelsey is spending her own money on something and kyle is with them then their mom will by Kyle something of the same price.

X-mas has the be the same number of gifts for each kid, and the same amount spent. One keeps track of the amounts (roughly) in her head, while Kyle keeps the number of gifts counted. It has really made me hate x-mas.

 

[cntkg1]

ONE LAST TIME!!!!


THE NEXT TIME SHE PASSES THIS CAMERA IN THIS DIRECTION, WE WILL BE ON IT!!!!!!

Great picture Jeff! We need to get Andy to get a shot of our cruise next week.

 

[My3sonscruisn]

If any of you folks with teenagers want to torment them during the cruise, you are welcome to have them join us for meals. We will sit them between my 7 YO and 4 YO boys. They could use a referee. You could always just use it as a threat! I am not sure my 3 sons will make it to their teenage years.

 

[MinnMick01]

Mac and I went shopping today. We found a traveling Disney Character Wharehouse. I spent $33. I will have to post a pic. later tonight of what I bought.


Her audition was very short. They took 3 pictures and said we will be in touch if we want to use her.

If they use her it is for a 3 day shot in Prescott. They will pay me $50 in gas, hotel accomediations for the 3 nights, and they will pay her a flat $300.00. So we will see if they pick her. She was number 28 as of 1:00. They had 50 coming in.

 

[MinnMick01]

If any of you folks with teenagers want to torment them during the cruise, you are welcome to have them join us for meals. We will sit them between my 7 YO and 4 YO boys. They could use a referee. You could always just use it as a threat! I am not sure my 3 sons will make it to their teenage years.

I am sure we could make it where you could have a different teenage every night. But as for our son I think he would team up with your boys and cause more problems. Our girl would be devastated so I might send her your way.

 

[minnieandmickey]

You know, is that a girl thing? Because my son doesn't have that....
only the know it all arrogance.
Actually he makes me crazy when I tell him something so many times that I get to the point of being so frustrated I scream at him...
then he starts with this....
"Mom are you ok? I think you need to calm down, you're very upset and I am afraid that there is really something wrong with you, I am worried about you and maybe you need to go on meds"

Oh, I so want to smack him right then.... but I just somehow leave and go have a nice big glass of wine

It is a girl thing...most of the drama is caused by the girls in the school. The boys don't have too much drama, but they are the ones who get kicked out of class the most for disruption.
We do have this one kid in school who thinks he knows it all, and I just want to smack the smirk off of his face. He gets it from home though, his Dad is a piece of work.

Yeah I have done the same thing, didn't want to waste the $2000 on the braces he had on. The funny thing is now that he has graduated he is more understanding and loving, kisses me goodbye and says I love you before he leaves. He is very tolerent towards his sister,which he had a very difficult time with accepting her disability. Now he takes her out once a month to a dinner and a movie. He still has his moments but it is nice seeing him become a man.

Yeah, I actually thought of leaving Sean at home, then he wouldn't miss school either. But I felt guilty for leaving him out so I asked him what he wanted to do hoping he'd say he didn't want to come, but no, he wanted to.... just to miss school.

I've already warned him that if he cannot be civil to Bob during dinner times and not say something rude (which he has in the past.... like "I am not even listening to you or it doesn't matter to me what you think").... then he should just have dinner at one of the buffets or stands by the pools or order room service because I will not let he and Bob's issues together ruin our cruise.
I've told him that I've spent far too much money for that to happen

The only reason Devin got left behind is because of his grades, other than that he would have gone on that vacation. Just couldn't risk him not graduating.

 

[minnieandmickey]

Normally it is the kids that have something to say about me. And yes they pick the most inappropriate times to do it. Lately I have been off the hook and they just yell that they hate it here and they don't want to live here. I am so afraid of them doing something during dinner because they know they can get a lot of peoples attention including that of my parents. I am so worried about the way they will act. I know once we are on the ship we won't se them much but our days of traveling are going to be hard. To them everything has to be fair. If one gets water and one get soda that is not fair. But now it has gotten to things have to be fair between the 3 of them. Who gets the window seat when. Who has to sleep on the floor at Grandma's house, who has to sleep on the floor at the hotel, who gets to sleep in Grandma and Grandpas room on the ship the most. It drives me nuts. Oh and if we buy any of them anything it has to be the same purchase price spent on each of them. Scott and I do not accomidate to this much but it causes lots of problems because we don't. Their mom has really set them up for that one. If Kelsey is spending her own money on something and kyle is with them then their mom will by Kyle something of the same price.

X-mas has the be the same number of gifts for each kid, and the same amount spent. One keeps track of the amounts (roughly) in her head, while Kyle keeps the number of gifts counted. It has really made me hate x-mas.

 

[MinnMick01]

Braces are a whole neither story in our household. Back in 04 we kept asking their mom what we should do about braces. Have them get them while they are younger or what until their middle to late teens. She would never answer us. Go figure. So when she got custody in Dec. 04 she immeidiatly said that the kids needed braces now. It was Feb. of 05 and she had them in with one guy for a quate. I asked her to get a few because treatments could be differnent. Well she works in the medical field and said there is no way they would be different. Both the kids had braces come March. Well medical is split 50/50. We carry the insurance. So both kids maxed their insurance and we both paid $600 out of pocket. Not bad. But she was not infomred that it was a 2 phase processes. The kids got the braces off, and had retainers put in over the summer. Now Kelsey is ready for phase 2. Well insurance won't cover it. So we each need to pay $1538 out of pocket for phase 2 and that does not cover the 4 teeth they want to pull. As of right now they are saying that as long as Kyle continues to wear his headgear he might not need phase 2. Only problem is he does not wear it.

So of course the kids mom is ready to do Kelsey's and we do not have the money. So she has told Kelsey the reason for the delay is us. But for some reason mom will not put the kids on her dental or her husbands dental to get those benifits. She says the 70% they would cover is not worth it. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't that mean that we would each end up paying about $462, which we could do immediatly.

 

[minnieandmickey]

So we are getting things together and we are wondering about the following:

2 way radios- do they work? Worth bringing?: Lost DH last year on CC am definately bringing them this year.

Inflatable rafts and tubes. Any need for these in the pool or at the beach?Pool too small, beach only if you want to carry them in the luggage otherwise rent some.

Any last minute tips for us first timers regarding things to pack? Don't forget the docs and Passports/birth certificates. You may forget other things but at least you will be on the ship.

 

[MinnMick01]

Sorry everyone


It has been a rough week in our household and Kelsey and Kyle have not been here. They are coming back on Monday and there is just so much to do before the trip that I am stressing out about them. It is a very sensitive subject in our household. I am just trying my best right now. Being able to talk about it is really helping so thank you so much to those of you that have been listening to me today.

 

[minnieandmickey]

As of right now they are saying that as long as Kyle continues to wear his headgear he might not need phase 2. Only problem is he does not wear it.

So of course the kids mom is ready to do Kelsey's and we do not have the money. So she has told Kelsey the reason for the delay is us. But for some reason mom will not put the kids on her dental or her husbands dental to get those benifits. She says the 70% they would cover is not worth it. Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't that mean that we would each end up paying about $462, which we could do immediatly.

Probably because the money for insurance comes out of their pocket, that's too bad. I really don't understand why parents have to do this, of course I have never been through circumstances like this either.

 

[minnieandmickey]

Sorry everyone


It has been a rough week in our household and Kelsey and Kyle have not been here. They are coming back on Monday and there is just so much to do before the trip that I am stressing out about them. It is a very sensitive subject in our household. I am just trying my best right now. Being able to talk about it is really helping so thank you so much to those of you that have been listening to me today.

Understandable, keep your chin up. I feel for Scott too, must be hard to have to be the referee. Hugs to all of you.