Obama the 'Second coming'?????

[Charade]

Mentally ill and addicted to drugs is "EXACTLY" how you see Obama??? I can see disagreeing with his platform or positions on certain issues, but calling someone things that are totally ridiculous and unfounded is a little over the top don't you think?

LOG, I think there's some irony in this post.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

I try not to get into political arguments on a discussion board as there is no way it will end peacefully (just like the war going on right now)...

But, I will say: Democrat or Republican...we need to look beyond the trivial and focus on the issues! It seems so often that people are so willing to fight over the 3 G's, but forget about the things that really affect them most! I don't look at Obama as any spritual second coming. I look at him as the best man for the job who will do his best to get this country out of the terrible, devastating rut that it is in today. I think, to an extent he is idolized by Americans because of how lost this country is nowadays...Just my 2 cents...

Now, I'm back over to the planning forums...

 

[lindalinda]

Honeymoon over already?

 

[Planogirl]

One is as I just mentioned that Obama will not crossover. The other is that the many HC supporters are FURIOUS with the DNC and how they handled the votes. I think the DNC SERIOUSLY miscalculated that effect.
Also lets be real here...In the past 3 Presidential races, the DNC gave us more Republican stereotype like Candidates. Gore, Kerry & Obama all come off pretty snobby.
While wheather you like them or not, Bush & McCain do come off as more as they 'guys" next door...stereotypical Democrat like.

I have to defend Al Gore. I don't think that he means to come off as snobby, it's just that he's kind of a stiff and aloof character. Obama is in no way like that so he's a whole 'nother case. Obama seems very outgoing and comfortable around people.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to re-evaluate how it handles the process.

 

[Mamu]

I think of him as a great speaker who seem to be bring out a lot of voters. This is very good for our country.

But when asked questions off-guard he seem to stumble over his words and be very defensive. I guess he an un-polished politician who will learn fast to always say the right thing.

 

[agentpleakley]

As opposed to who? Bush or McCain?

I don't see why this comment was necessary -- obviously - another attempt by BS to deflect the obvious from their candidate. I have never seen anyone say that McCain, Bush, Hilary, etc etc etc were not a"politicians." Good grief. This is just another example of how BS refuse to acknowledge anything "human" and "typical" about BO.

When somebody asked a question as to why people could not just believe this was an honest man dedicated to his country -- well, duh - the obvious answer is that he is a typical politician. There is absolutely no need to spin it into an issue about GWB or McCain. Geez, you can't make this stuff up.

BO response to the entire Rev Wright/TUCC was for political expediency. I also believe that the only reason he was a member in the first place was to garner votes in the first place. Would you rather me say he is a whack job who adheres to the same crap that comes out of the Rev. Wright's mouth?

 

[connorlevismom]

I think of him as a great speaker who seem to be bring out a lot of voters. This is very good for our country.

But when asked questions off-guard he seem to stumble over his words and be very defensive. I guess he an un-polished politician who will learn fast to always say the right thing.

I agree that he is a great speaker, when it is written down. But he cannot handle himself at all when it is off the cuff. He stammers all over the place and looks quite silly.

Besides, we are not electing a motivational speaker. We are electing a POTUS and you have to be much more than a good speaker for that job.

Kristine

 

[DISUNC]

Why is it so hard to believe Obama is just a dedicated man who cares?

Because he has done nothing in the past to prove this.
Why is it so easy for you to believe Obama is a dedicated man who cares?

As I mentioned a bazillion times on these threads...WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECIEVED THIS HARD WORK AND CARING FROM OBAMA IN THE PAST???? They (if they do excist) are soooooooooooo noticeably missing from his campaign. These people should be this mans refrences...yet he has none!

The only possible answer: Consider the source.

The "source" Jesse Jackson is very close to the Obama campaign. His son is even Obama's national campaign co-chair!

You're joking right?
Please tell me there's no way an intelligent adult like yourself could really believe this.

Trust me...no intelligence going one here! Just making a observation.
But yes, my observation is that many of his supporters do hold him up as some sort of deity! I am by far not alone in this opinion. It is much fodder for late night talk shows, radio shows, editorial cartoons etc.

Obama is in no way like that so he's a whole 'nother case. Obama seems very outgoing and comfortable around people..

When the people adorn him, yes he seems to be fine...but as witnessed in the last debate...when asked "uneasy" questions by people he falls apart.

I noticed his elitism back in Iowa when he was "suprised" that a Farmer in Iowa actually knew about Burma!
Then soon after he was on ELLEN...and he was not comfortable at all.

I do agree that the Democratic Party needs to re-evaluate how it handles the process.

Totally revamp it!

 

[okeydokey]

Obama is a preacher, not a president.

Not for long.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Well, then that puts the kibosh on the notion that "the same can be said about McCain supporters" as stated by a poster on page 1.

You clearly misunderstood my comment on page one, as it had nothing to do with starting threads about a candidate's positives.

I don't see why this comment was necessary -- obviously - another attempt by BS to deflect the obvious from their candidate. I have never seen anyone say that McCain, Bush, Hilary, etc etc etc were not a"politicians." Good grief. This is just another example of how BS refuse to acknowledge anything "human" and "typical" about BO.

When somebody asked a question as to why people could not just believe this was an honest man dedicated to his country -- well, duh - the obvious answer is that he is a typical politician. There is absolutely no need to spin it into an issue about GWB or McCain. Geez, you can't make this stuff up.

BO response to the entire Rev Wright/TUCC was for political expediency. I also believe that the only reason he was a member in the first place was to garner votes in the first place. Would you rather me say he is a whack job who adheres to the same crap that comes out of the Rev. Wright's mouth?

You have got to be kidding! When people rave on and on about how one particular candidate is a liar and a horrible person, etc, etc, then the best someone can do when asked to explain is "because he's a politician", of course people are going to point out that the other candidates are politicians, too! We all know all politicians lie. Why are Obama's lies so much more horrible than any other politicians?

Just google "Obama lies"!


Also this is a doozey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU

Yes, of course, because we all know that if it's posted on the internet, it must be true!!!

Of course, if that's your measure of a person's trustworthiness, "Obama lies" had 673,000 hits. "Bush lies" had 931,000 hits. Guess that blows your theory that Obama is the biggest of all the liars.


And the video! C'mon, you can do better than that! Since when is changing your mind considered a lie? oops, wait, don't tell me. When you're the candidate I'm opposed to, right?

 

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

Maybe it is because he is a POLITICIAN -- and he has shown himself to be one through and through.

I don't see why this comment was necessary -- obviously - another attempt by BS to deflect the obvious from their candidate. I have never seen anyone say that McCain, Bush, Hilary, etc etc etc were not a"politicians." Good grief. This is just another example of how BS refuse to acknowledge anything "human" and "typical" about BO.

When somebody asked a question as to why people could not just believe this was an honest man dedicated to his country -- well, duh - the obvious answer is that he is a typical politician. There is absolutely no need to spin it into an issue about GWB or McCain. Geez, you can't make this stuff up.

Personally, I do think McCain and Obama are both dedicated men who care. I just don't like McCain's ideas and prefer Obama's.

Sure, there are Obama supporters who think the guy can do no wrong. (The same can be said for supporters of any politician.) But I think most of us have figured out that he's human. But I think dissing Obama's supporters for their fervor and excitement is easier than trumpeting McCain's policies.

 

[MrsPete]

I have to defend Al Gore. I don't think that he means to come off as snobby, it's just that he's kind of a stiff and aloof character. Obama is in no way like that so he's a whole 'nother case. Obama seems very outgoing and comfortable around people.

In our world, in which television sound bites carry more weight than debates and like-ability seems more important than leadership, this matters a great deal. That's one thing that's been hurting Hillary; she comes off as a *****, and people don't like her. That is, it matters a great deal to a candidate; I'm not sure it makes a hill of beans in actually running the country.

Because he has done nothing in the past to prove this.

But he sounds so good when he says that he cares! THAT's what people are responding to -- the fact that he hasn't actually done much in the past, oh, why should that matter? He made promises!

Seriously, IF he could do everything he says he can do, he'd be a fantastic president. But can he do what he says? Can anyone do what he says?

The "source" Jesse Jackson is very close to the Obama campaign. His son is even Obama's national campaign co-chair!

Oh, I don't doubt that Jesse Jackson knows Obama well. I mean that most Americans don't take Jesse Jackson very seriously; he's a camera-hogging hack job with a very biased agenda. How could a preacher seriously want to add to the Bible? History books -- absolutely! The Bible? No way.

Personally, I do think McCain and Obama are both dedicated men who care. I just don't like McCain's ideas and prefer Obama's.

I agree. I think every president we've ever had (no, make that every candidate we've ever had) CARES about the country -- no one could do that job if he didn't care. The question is whose ideas are most realistic and who has the ability to lead the country? We don't all have the same ideas about HOW to improve things; that doesn't mean that any one of us is totally right or totally wrong.

 

[freckles and boo]

The "source" Jesse Jackson is very close to the Obama campaign. His son is even Obama's national campaign co-chair!

Jesse Jackson (Sr.) has spent the last few years acting like a buffoon and grasping for relevence. Do not confuse him with Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr., who has served his constituents well. They are different people.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Who is Coach K??????

Well, guess I was wrong to think you were/are a Tarheel (UNC)

 

[agentpleakley]

You have got to be kidding! When people rave on and on about how one particular candidate is a liar and a horrible person, etc, etc, then the best someone can do when asked to explain is "because he's a politician", of course people are going to point out that the other candidates are politicians, too! We all know all politicians lie. Why are Obama's lies so much more horrible than any other politicians?

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This thread is about OBAMA, isn't it? I didn't call him a liar - I called him a typical politician. He keeps saying he isn't - but his actions keep saying that he is. Sorry, I call it as I see it.

 

[Charade]

And the video! C'mon, you can do better than that! Since when is changing your mind considered a lie? oops, wait, don't tell me. When you're the candidate I'm opposed to, right?

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."

I guess Bubba "changed his mind"...

 

[DISUNC]

And the video! C'mon, you can do better than that! Since when is changing your mind considered a lie? oops, wait, don't tell me. When you're the candidate I'm opposed to, right?

Changing ones mind is no problem. But how has his reasoning changed?
He gave many reasons why he shouldnt run, then a year later totally disregarded what he himself said.

What will he totally disregard next year, that he said this year?

 

[chobie]

No he's not the second coming. He's not the antichrist either. The only "hysteria" about Obama is coming from the people who hate him.

 

[shortbun]

Thank you for the third option in the poll.

 

[shortbun]

No he's not the second coming. He's not the antichrist either. The only "hysteria" about Obama is coming from the people who hate him.

You hit the nail on the head Chobie! Plenty of evidence for that is right here on this board.