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Rep. Emanuel Clever (D-Kansas City) and big Clinton supporter says about Obama "I will be stunned if he's not the next President".

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/01/rep-emanuel-cleaver-clin_n_94485.html

Well, look what else he said :scared1: As someone who is white I take great offense at what he said my reason for voting was :eek: Then to top it off he says Obama's Oratory skills aren't so great, when all the Clinton campaign says is that he's just a great Orator and nothing more :sad2:

The guy looks like a loon IMHO...

Oh, that link doesn't have the whole conversation by the way (and thankfully so) I saw it on Chris Mathew's this evening (or was it Keith Olberman)
 
Well, look what else he said :scared1: As someone who is white I take great offense at what he said my reason for voting was :eek: Then to top it off he says Obama's Oratory wasn't so great, when all the Clinton campaign says is that he's just a great Orator and nothing more :sad2:

The guy looks like a loon IMHO...


Yeah, I know. But he's a Clinton supporter who gave the talking heads a big headline (point for Obama) then he shot himself in the foot with his stupid comments (point against Clinton). All in all, I figure its a win for Barack.
 
I wondered who all those people named on Clinton's debt report were. I figured most were campaign staff, who are owed reimbursement. Now, we have this......

Clinton campaign stiffs Girl Scouts for cookies


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OMG :scared1: you know those girls and/or their family's have to come up with the money for their council, the bill will not be forgiven by the mother company :sad2:
 
Yeah, I know. But he's a Clinton supporter who gave the talking heads a big headline (point for Obama) then he shot himself in the foot with his stupid comments (point against Clinton). All in all, I figure its a win for Barack.

That's maybe a good point but still what he said about white voters was offensive :sad2:
 

I wondered who all those people named on Clinton's debt report were. I figured most were campaign staff, who are owed reimbursement. Now, we have this......

Clinton campaign stiffs Girl Scouts for cookies


:sad2:


Holy cow! Talk about a bad PR move. You KNOW they paid for those cookies as soon as that story hit the wires. But wow, what a dumb thing to do to stiff a couple of kids?! Someone needs to be fired for that one. :confused3
 
Dumb, dumb comment. What WAS he thinking? :confused3

God only knows, I've no idea... DH & I just sat here looking at each other, pretty much speechless other than my own OMG, I can't believe he said that!

It was on KO tonight.. couldn't remember if it was KO or Mathew's...
 
I woulda posted this to the Liberal thread, but it might offend some of the other side's delicate sensibilities. ;) This appeared in yesterday's Washington Post.

Loyalty to My Country

By Bill Richardson
Tuesday, April 1, 2008; 10:29 AM

My recent endorsement of Barack Obama for president has been the subject of much discussion and consternation -- particularly among supporters of Hillary Clinton.

Led by political commentator James Carville, who makes a living by being confrontational and provocative, Clinton supporters have speculated about events surrounding this endorsement and engaged in personal attacks and insults.

While I certainly will not stoop to the low level of Mr. Carville, I feel compelled to defend myself against character assassination and baseless allegations.

Carville has made it very clear that this is a personal attack -- driven by his own sense of what constitutes loyalty. It is this kind of political venom that I anticipated from certain Clinton supporters and I campaigned against in my own run for president.

I repeatedly urged Democrats to stop attacking each other personally and even offered a DNC resolution calling for a positive campaign based on the issues. I was evenhanded in my efforts. In fact, my intervention in a debate during a particularly heated exchange was seen by numerous commentators as an attempt to defend Sen. Clinton against the barbs of Sens. Obama and John Edwards.

As I have pointed out many times, and most pointedly when I endorsed Sen. Obama, the campaign has been too negative, and we Democrats need to calm the rhetoric and personal attacks so we can come together as a party to defeat the Republicans.

More than anything, to repair the damage done at home and abroad, we must unite as a country. I endorsed Sen. Obama because I believe he has the judgment, temperament and background to bridge our divisions as a nation and make America strong at home and respected in the world again.

This was a difficult, even painful, decision. My affection and respect for the Clintons run deep. I do indeed owe President Clinton for the extraordinary opportunities he gave me to serve him and this country. And nobody worked harder for him or served him more loyally, during some very difficult times, than I did.

Carville and others say that I owe President Clinton's wife my endorsement because he gave me two jobs. Would someone who worked for Carville then owe his wife, Mary Matalin, similar loyalty in her professional pursuits? Do the people now attacking me recall that I ran for president, albeit unsuccessfully, against Sen. Clinton? Was that also an act of disloyalty?

And while I was truly torn for weeks about this decision, and seriously contemplated endorsing Sen. Clinton, I never told anyone, including President Clinton, that I would do so. Those who say I did are misinformed or worse.

As for Mr. Carville's assertions that I did not return President Clinton's calls: I was on vacation in Antigua with my wife for a week and did not receive notice of any calls from the president. I, of course, called Sen. Clinton prior to my endorsement of Sen. Obama. It was a difficult and heated discussion, the details of which I will not share here.

I do not believe that the truth will keep Carville and others from attacking me. I can only say that we need to move on from the politics of personal insult and attacks. That era, personified by Carville and his ilk, has passed and I believe we must end the rancor and partisanship that has mired Washington in gridlock. In my view, Sen. Obama represents our best hope of replacing division with unity. That is why, out of loyalty to my country, I endorse him for president.
 
I woulda posted this to the Liberal thread, but it might offend some of the other side's delicate sensibilities. ;) This appeared in yesterday's Washington Post.

Thanks for the post. I think this issue makes the Clintons look so petty. Yes, I know Carville said it, but he doesn't blow his nose without their OK. I wish Hillary/Bill had stepped forward and said, "Carville was over the top on this one."
Bill Richardson is a good and decent man. I admire the way both in word and action he demonstrates he's the adult in the room.
 
Way to win those California SDs over Bill. :thumbsup2

Bill Clinton's tirade stunned some delegates
The Bill Clinton who met privately with California's superdelegates at last weekend's state convention was a far cry from the congenial former president who afterward publicly urged fellow Democrats to "chill out" over the race between his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Barack Obama.

In fact, before his speech Clinton had one of his famous meltdowns Sunday, blasting away at former presidential contender Bill Richardson for having endorsed Obama, the media and the entire nomination process.

"It was one of the worst political meetings I have ever attended," one superdelegate said.

According to those at the meeting, Clinton - who flew in from Chicago with bags under his eyes - was classic old Bill at first, charming and making small talk with the 15 or so delegates who gathered in a room behind the convention stage.

But as the group moved together for the perfunctory photo, Rachel Binah, a former Richardson delegate who now supports Hillary Clinton, told Bill how "sorry" she was to have heard former Clinton campaign manager James Carville call Richardson a "Judas" for backing Obama.

It was as if someone pulled the pin from a grenade.

"Five times to my face (Richardson) said that he would never do that," a red-faced, finger-pointing Clinton erupted.

The former president then went on a tirade that ran from the media's unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out.

"It was very, very intense," said one attendee. "Not at all like the Bill of earlier campaigns."

When he finally wound down, Bill was asked what message he wanted the delegates to take away from the meeting.

At that point, a much calmer Clinton outlined his message of party unity.

"It was kind of strange later when he took the stage and told everyone to 'chill out,' " one delegate told us.

"We couldn't help but think he was also talking to himself."

When delegate Binah - still stunned from her encounter with Clinton - got home to Little River (Mendocino County) later in the day - there was a phone message waiting for her from State Party Chairman Art Torres, telling her the former president wanted him to apologize to her on his behalf for what happened.

Still, word of Clinton's blast shot all the way back to the New Mexico state Capitol, where Richardson spokesman Pahl Shipley reiterated Tuesday that his boss had never "promised or guaranteed" Bill and Hillary his endorsement.
 
Finally...FINALLY someone on the national stage is saying what I've been saying for a couple months!!! From Raw Story:

Texas superdelegates: Clinton will unify Republicans
04/01/2008 @ 2:34 pm
Filed by Eric Mayes

Sen. Hillary Clinton would unify Republicans not Democrats, a Texas congressman said Tuesday, suggesting that to end the squabbling within the the party superdelegates should meet before the August convention in Denver to iron things out.

"In some ways Hillary Clinton would unify Republicans in way that John McCain can not," said Rep. Chet Edwards, during a call convened by Sen. Barack Obama's campaign to drive home the fact that Obama, contrary to earlier counts, seems to have won Texas.

Edwards and three other Texas lawmakers, all of whom are supporting Obama, proposed a superdelegate convention to decide on a nominee before the full party gathers this summer. The group included Reps. Eddie Bernice Johnson, Charles Gonzalez and Lloyd Doggett, all of whom are superdelegates.

Should the cracks caused by the contest for the nomination deepen, the group said it would like to see a convention of superdelegates before the party's main convention.

Edwards downplayed concerns that superdelegates would go against the voice of the party. He said that would only divide Democrats further.

"I simply can not imagine superdelegates overturning the will of millions and millions of voters across the country," he said.

Clinton is the candidate that has proven divisive, Edwards said.

A broad spectrum of Texans has lined up behind Obama, he said, and have proven their loyalty by turning out in record numbers in the state's primary and caucuses which has only strengthened their party ties.

"This process is expanding the base of the democratic party," Edwards said.

Approximately 2.5 million people voted in the primary and 1.1 million participated in the March caucuses. The Clinton campaign has said on several occasions that caucuses are undemocratic.

After the votes were tallied, 99 of the state's delegates went to Obama compared to 95 for Clinton. Clinton did win the popular vote with a 4 percent margin in the state's primary. However, the caucuses appeared to have turned the tables on her.

The final verdict will not be delivered until after the state's convention in June.

The lawmakers were convinced Obama will win in the final count and that such a win would strengthen the Democratic Party within the state and the nation.

Johnson said assumptions that Obama appealed mainly to African Americans in Texas were mistaken.

"That’s really not the case," she said. "We do have a huge number of African American supporters, but we do have huge numbers of others as well."

By her estimate, approximately 75 percent of Obama's supporters in some of her districts came from white or Latino voters. CNNreported that Clinton got 66 percent of white Democrats, 15 percent of black Democrats and 69 percent of Latinos.

A broad base of support is typical of Obama's wins nationwide, Edwards said and will re-invigorate the party across the country, particularly in swing areas like his own district which includes Crawford, President Bush's hometown.

A combined ticket seems unlikely considering the animosity the race is generating and some have called for Clinton to drop out.

She has repeatedly dismissed the idea and Obama said yesterday that she should stay in the race as long as she wants to.
 
And in even more good news:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1727120,00.html

Time Magazine said:
Obama Keeps Cash Lead Over Clinton

Barack Obama raised more than $30 million in the month of March, a campaign official told TIME on Tuesday.

Though the official would not provide an exact number, he did say, "The number starts with a three and we are still counting. It's in the 30s."

While a monthly fundraising total of $30 million or more would be well short of the more than $55 million Obama raised during the month of February, it would still represent nearly $1 million a day - a healthy pace for a campaign that had a politically rocky last few weeks. And it likely insures that Obama will be able to afford large TV and radio advertising buys in the remaining primary states, the official claimed.

As of Tuesday night, the Clinton campaign had not released its March totals. But one Clinton campaign adviser hinted that the New York senator's total for the month will come close to $20 million. That estimate could not be independently confirmed.

Word of Obama's latest financial benchmark comes amid continued reports that the Clinton campaign is struggling with a persistent debt that at times has reached nearly $9 million, according to published reports and Democratic party officials. The size of Clinton's debt, in turn, has given rise to questions about whether she will have the cash to compete head to head with Obama in various primaries in the final eight weeks of the nomination campaign.

Sen. Clinton loaned herself $5 million earlier this year when her campaign stumbled, fundraising slowed and her cash on hand dwindled. There have been scattered reports in recent weeks that various campaign vendors have not been paid for work or services that have already been rendered, with some taking to the airwaves to complain.

Debt is not uncommon in presidential campaigns, and often is carried quietly on a campaign treasurer's books for a few weeks. Creditors go unpaid, staffers can work for free; small costs can even be borne on personal credit cards for a brief period of time. These and other tactics are almost always employed at one time or another by most presidential operations to get through tight spots. But the debts tend to be short-lived and modest, rarely exceeding a few million dollars. While the exact size of Clinton's debt has fluctuated, Democratic party officials say, hers' remains above the norm in size for a campaign at this stage of a race.

While some inside the campaign are concerned about whether Clinton will have the funds to match Obama in radio and TV advertising buys through May, others are worried about a different horizon. One Clinton adviser wondered whether that what he called the "massive debt" was beginning to hang over not simply the campaign but Clinton's political future. How, this adviser asked, can the campaign climb out of "the debt hole if we don't win this whole thing?" Facing a Senate re-election campaign in 2012, he noted, Clinton's choice is daunting: "If you have a $10 million debt when this thing is over, she has to pay it off, and then, four years later, raise $30 to $40 million" to wage a re-election campaign.

There was little to suggest in the latest financial reports that a lack of money could drive Clinton from the race soon. A $20 million month, though less than Obama's total, would under any other circumstances be a respectable total for a political fundraising operation. But it would nonetheless leave Clinton a step or two behind Obama in a another vital political metric: financial strength. A lingering debt, meanwhile, would mean that Clinton could face a longer-term consequence of an extended campaign.
 
per MSNBC (TV) ANother super for Obama!! Wyoming gov. to announce this afternoon. :cool1: I wonder if we will start to hear quicker super endorsements coming out now that Dean has said he wants them to announce by July 1.
 
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