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[gingermouse17]

Just a heads up, there is a new thread about Pastor Wright by one of the gleefull ones. I suggest we all ignore it. Doesn't matter how often you say it's the pastors words not Obamas, they just don't get it. Perhaps I will try that ignore feature.

I agree- I just don't understand why all the press just keep discussing the same words from Pastor Wright over and over again. It seems like they are trying to convice people that Obama believes in these words. I usually watch CNN and ever since HRC mentioned that she wasn't getting fair press CNN has been going out of there way to slam Obama (not as bad as Fox). It's starting to get very annoying.

Can't they just move on from Pastor Wright and get back to the issues. Why must it be analyzed over and over..............

 

[Reflection]

I need to stay on this thread. I have read one too many posts from alleged democrats who say that Obama "scares" them (or their family members, etc). If you don't like his policies, fine. Otherwise, I get the drift. Sad.

While I'm venting, if a voter writes in Hillary...and Obama is the nominee, the voter has just voted for the war. I'm a Mom of twentysomethings. This issue really matters to me. I don't want to see another 5 years of death notifications. We need new leadership-staying the course is not an option.

OK...Back to happier things.

I agree with you. I've read some of those threads and don't get what is suppose to be so scary about Obama. As you say, if you don't like his policies, fine but it is not policy that is the focus in those threads.

 

[marybet]

I was visiting my niece in Boston she said the grade school Obama attended in Africa was "a place where they trained terrorist". I said they were training terrorist 40 years ago? Well she said those were his formative years and it was a muslim school. Now this girl has a college education, her husband is a major in the Air Force, he told me Obama was going to bomb Pakistan and Israel. He graduated magna cum laude from the Citadel but he heard what he wanted to hear, not what Obama really said. I was a guest in their home so I did my best to point out they were wrong without saying you both are idiots. I knew I wasn't going to change their minds but I did try.

I get discouraged when I read some of the stuff on this board, but then I see the poll numbers and realize that this is a very small community compared to the total voting public. According to one poll I think about 20% had not even heard of Rev. Wright. I really don't believe the people who say they were going to vote for Obama but aren't because of Wright. I don't think they were ever going to vote for Obama. The people who say he scares them are afraid of having a black man for president, they want someone who looks like them. I think they fall into that terrible stereotype that thinks all black people act the same, think the same and believe the same thing. So they see soundbites of Rev. Wright and think that is all there is to know about him. They look no deeper because they really don't want to know anymore about him. We will not be able to change their minds this time. I think we can elect Obama without these people, I think there are enough of us who understand what he stands for, what his polices are, what he wants to do for the country.

Once he wins the nomination I think we can win back the Hillary supporters and show the Independents that he is a far superior choice over McCain. I believe we can.

 

[bsnyder]

The people who say he scares them are afraid of having a black man for president, they want someone who looks like them. I think they fall into that terrible stereotype that thinks all black people act the same, think the same and believe the same thing. So they see soundbites of Rev. Wright and think that is all there is to know about him. They look no deeper because they really don't want to know anymore about him. We will not be able to change their minds this time. I think we can elect Obama without these people, I think there are enough of us who understand what he stands for, what his polices are, what he wants to do for the country.

Once he wins the nomination I think we can win back the Hillary supporters and show the Independents that he is a far superior choice over McCain. I believe we can.

If you persist in stereotyping and labeling the people who don't vote for Obama as racist, you're not doing your candidate any favors.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

If you persist in stereotyping and labeling the people who don't vote for Obama as racist, you're not doing your candidate any favors.

Pointing out racism either implied or expressed is doing everyone a favor.

 

[marybet]

If you persist in stereotyping and labeling the people who don't vote for Obama as racist, you're not doing your candidate any favors.

I was referring to the people who say Obama scares them and then cannot explain why. I think you can have cetain prejudices and not be racist. I don't think everyone who isn't voting for Obama is a racist. Some of them are, some of them are and wouldn't admit it even to themselves, and some just have deep seated prejudices.

 

[bsnyder]

I was referring to the people who say Obama scares them and then cannot explain why. I think you can have cetain prejudices and not be racist. I don't think everyone who isn't voting for Obama is a racist. Some of them are, some of them are and wouldn't admit it even to themselves, and some just have deep seated prejudices.

You didn't qualify it earlier with the "cannot explain why" comment. Are there people who can't explain why?

FTR, he scares the heck out of me!. Because he's a far left liberal who's shown he's very good at hiding that fact behind a lot of soothing rhetoric.

I"d have that same opinion if he was white, purple or green.

 

[bsnyder]

Pointing out racism either implied or expressed is doing everyone a favor.

Unless you've misinterpreted their true feelings and attitudes, which can easily happen. That's certainly not doing anyone a favor.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

C'mon Bet... I've come to escort you back to a safer thread. Don't disturb the Obamites; they're ideating.

 

[bsnyder]

C'mon Bet... I've come to escort you back to a safer thread. Don't disturb the Obamites; they're ideating.

But I don't like the safer threads as much. I like to live dangerously!

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

But I don't like the safer threads as much. I like to live dangerously!

 

[chris1gill]

I was referring to the people who say Obama scares them and then cannot explain why. I think you can have cetain prejudices and not be racist. I don't think everyone who isn't voting for Obama is a racist. Some of them are, some of them are and wouldn't admit it even to themselves, and some just have deep seated prejudices.

You use far too much logic in your thoughts. You must draw pretty pictures and show diagrams with these people, because... wait for it.... NOBODY is typical on the DIS... Nope, no siree... They're winning because they SAY they're winning, wait, that rings a bell.

Maybe that can be tomorrow's (today's) Quote of the day, unless someone has one better!

Quote of the Day:

They're winning because they SAY they're winning

There ya go, what more do you need to know?

 

[Hound 109]

fwiw....info to the youngsters who support Obama:

- Muslims were training "terrorists" 40 years ago....(& 900 years ago).

- Obama never attended school in Africa. (He attended a predominantly Muslim school in Indonesia... but Indonesia isn't in Africa.)

 

[chris1gill]

fwiw....info to the youngsters who support Obama:

- Muslims were training "terrorists" 40 years ago....(& 900 years ago).

- Obama never attended school in Africa. (He attended a predominantly Muslim school in Indonesia... but Indonesia isn't in Africa.)

You cannot change the mind of people who believe these things. Nor can you apparently change 10% of the publics mind, that he is, in fact not a muslim. As I said, where have they been, under a rock?

And Muslims have been fighting muslim's for thousands of years, this will not change.

Terrorist's such as AQ really did not spring into action until after 1980 after we armed and trained Bin Laden to defeat the Russian's in Afghanistan. And their claim that they indeed hate us is a result of the Gulf war, which of course was much later than that... so the true terrorists that would harm America did not start until around 1990 without looking back at my dates.... You can accept or deny that this is the reason they say they hate us (I think it started far sooner, but there is no proof), but they didn't come to our soil until well after they formed.

 

[marybet]

You use far too much logic in your thoughts. You must draw pretty pictures and show diagrams with these people, because... wait for it.... NOBODY is typical on the DIS... Nope, no siree... They're winning because they SAY they're winning, wait, that rings a bell.

Maybe that can be tomorrow's (today's) Quote of the day, unless someone has one better!

Quote of the Day:

They're winning because they SAY they're winning

There ya go, what more do you need to know?

Do you think we could find a diagram that gets them to start their own thread? I don't come to this one to get in debates with people who don't support Obama. Not my fault if they can't figure out my thought processes, I know what I mean.

If I wanted to get in a pissing match I would have gone to that other thread.

 

[chris1gill]

As an aside, I really wish our schools could teach more history.... I know my son is incredibly fascinated with it, as he is with World religion as a whole, that comes as a result of the private education he received. DD will not have that experience as we moved late September, but the history classes he received were invaluable to him... I hope that the school we are in will pick up the pace a bit, but that may be fanciful thinking...

 

[chris1gill]

Do you think we could find a diagram that gets them to start their own thread? I don't come to this one to get in debates with people who don't support Obama. Not my fault if they can't figure out my thought processes, I know what I mean.

If I wanted to get in a pissing match I would have gone to that other thread.

Well, I guess you'd have to start the title of the thread with Obama in it, because those are the only threads they refer to... but inside you could then lay out a nice plan for McCain and what he stands for and what he means to you, yes you as an American... you could then put in nice diagrams and nice pictures and I am sure it would be well received. However, you must put Obama in the headline in order to get any traction at all....

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Since we have visitors I might as well give them a thrill. I believe many of those so 'exercised' about 'pastor-gate' are using their 'horror' over Wright's comments as cover for their true feelings. It's the same with the 'muslin' and 'not patriotic' rumors and e-mails. They don't want to think of themselves or have others think of them as racist but they really don't want a black man to be elected President. So they've found ways to feel comfy not only not voting for him but to explain why. After all, if he has an 'evil pastor' who he won't 'denounce' then he must be evil, too and you can't vote for someone who's evil. And besides, he might be a Muslim and he might hate the U.S.! Who could vote for someone like that.

 

["Got Disney"]

I agree with you. I've read some of those threads and don't get what is suppose to be so scary about Obama. As you say, if you don't like his policies, fine but it is not policy that is the focus in those threads.

I was referring to the people who say Obama scares them and then cannot explain why. I think you can have cetain prejudices and not be racist. I don't think everyone who isn't voting for Obama is a racist. Some of them are, some of them are and wouldn't admit it even to themselves, and some just have deep seated prejudices.

I think for many it just has to do with his judgement. Judgement on Rev Wright and Obama stating that a man like Rev. Wright is his moral compass and listening to him rant(Wright not Obama) on and off for 20 years, in addition to him being his mentor. For many it puts a question of why would he stay there?

If Obama was not running for POTUS than most would just turn there heads and walk away and say well what ever floats your boat. But we are talking judgement. If his judgement is not that great where his church is concerned than how could his judgement be as president.

I myself would never ever stay in a church that has a pastor like that...no way no how. And the new one is just as bad. I myself keep trying to separate myself from this and I just keep coming back to it. Best it runs and runs alot know because than it will get old and tiring and if he gets the nomination it will have been old news. I say better it gets all the attention know instead of later.

I have not ran up against anyone that has said that they are afraid of him due to his being black. But many are afraid of how he will run the country due to many factors. Being an Obama supporter you wont see that as others that do not support him see.

Remember the more junk that comes out know the better. Old news gets passed by in a general a lot easier that if it came up during that time.

 

["Got Disney"]

Since we have visitors I might as well give them a thrill. I believe many of those so 'exercised' about 'pastor-gate' are using their 'horror' over Wright's comments as cover for their true feelings. It's the same with the 'muslin' and 'not patriotic' rumors and e-mails. They don't want to think of themselves or have others think of them as racist but they really don't want a black man to be elected President. So they've found ways to feel comfy not only not voting for him but to explain why. After all, if he has an 'evil pastor' who he won't 'denounce' then he must be evil, too and you can't vote for someone who's evil. And besides, he might be a Muslim and he might hate the U.S.! Who could vote for someone like that.

ummmmm your kidding right???? you think that people that don't vote Obama are racist and using Wright as an excuse???? Myself and millions of others decided not to vote for him before Rev Wright came about.

Me not voting Obama has nothing to do with his color and everything to do with how I feel he will run the country. Unless you are thinking this way because you don't like Hillary because she is a woman? sounds kinda silly doesn't it

I am sure your reason for not voting for Hillary is the same reasons that I prefer not to vote Obama.