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[Laugh O. Grams]

Pabst Blue Ribbon?

Yes, ma'am!

When we we're living in the city, there used to be a couple bars on the LES that we'd frequent with great music and $1 PBRs. I love our place in Florida, but man...that was livin'!

You guys see the Today Show this morning? It opened with the debunking of Hillary's sniper fire story by reporters who were there with her and was followed up by her fuzzy math regarding how important the electoral vote is in a primary. She's definitely taking beating today...

 

[lilyv]

I've been pondering Carville's comments over the past couple of days, (and also noticing the total silence from Clinton...) and I've wondered exactly what he meant. I understand what their goal is, now. Good try, Carville/Clinton, but you're dishonorable intent is showing.

"If Richardson Is Supposed To Be Judas, What's the Thirty Silver Pieces?

Yesterday on the Clinton campaign's conference call, a reporter asked, "If Bill Richardson is Judas Iscariot in the mind of James Carville, who is Hillary in that metaphor?" (The Hillary camp didn't want to touch that answer.) A Democratic strategist yesterday told me yesterday he's more interested in another part of the metaphor: What were the "thirty silver pieces"?

It's a brilliant bit of nasty political jujitsu to audaciously charge, without evidence, that Richardson traded his endorsement for a reward of some kind. What Carville's comment does is make it much harder for a President Obama to put Richardson in his cabinet. Not impossible, obviously, but Secretary-of-State-designate Richardson (to pick a hypothetical example) would inevitably face questions of whether there was a quid pro quo for his endorsement. Richardson would start any new position with a bit of a taint as, after all, "Carville said he sold his endorsement back in March 2008..."

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE1MTIwMzUwMTYwZTkzNDA2NWZhNzZhZDRkZjI2YTI=

 

[Fitswimmer]

I've been pondering Carville's comments over the past couple of days, (and also noticing the total silence from Clinton...) and I've wondered exactly what he meant. I understand what their goal is, now. Good try, Carville/Clinton, but you're dishonorable intent is showing.

"If Richardson Is Supposed To Be Judas, What's the Thirty Silver Pieces?

Yesterday on the Clinton campaign's conference call, a reporter asked, "If Bill Richardson is Judas Iscariot in the mind of James Carville, who is Hillary in that metaphor?" (The Hillary camp didn't want to touch that answer.) A Democratic strategist yesterday told me yesterday he's more interested in another part of the metaphor: What were the "thirty silver pieces"?

It's a brilliant bit of nasty political jujitsu to audaciously charge, without evidence, that Richardson traded his endorsement for a reward of some kind. What Carville's comment does is make it much harder for a President Obama to put Richardson in his cabinet. Not impossible, obviously, but Secretary-of-State-designate Richardson (to pick a hypothetical example) would inevitably face questions of whether there was a quid pro quo for his endorsement. Richardson would start any new position with a bit of a taint as, after all, "Carville said he sold his endorsement back in March 2008..."

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE1MTIwMzUwMTYwZTkzNDA2NWZhNzZhZDRkZjI2YTI=

Are we really all naive enough to think that no matter who Richardson endorsed there would have been a quid pro quo? Good grief folks, he's going to GET something for this from Obama and he would have gotten something from Hillary had he gone with her. My feeling is he liked Obama's offer better.

 

[chris1gill]

I've been pondering Carville's comments over the past couple of days, (and also noticing the total silence from Clinton...) and I've wondered exactly what he meant. I understand what their goal is, now. Good try, Carville/Clinton, but you're dishonorable intent is showing.

"If Richardson Is Supposed To Be Judas, What's the Thirty Silver Pieces?

Yesterday on the Clinton campaign's conference call, a reporter asked, "If Bill Richardson is Judas Iscariot in the mind of James Carville, who is Hillary in that metaphor?" (The Hillary camp didn't want to touch that answer.) A Democratic strategist yesterday told me yesterday he's more interested in another part of the metaphor: What were the "thirty silver pieces"?

It's a brilliant bit of nasty political jujitsu to audaciously charge, without evidence, that Richardson traded his endorsement for a reward of some kind. What Carville's comment does is make it much harder for a President Obama to put Richardson in his cabinet. Not impossible, obviously, but Secretary-of-State-designate Richardson (to pick a hypothetical example) would inevitably face questions of whether there was a quid pro quo for his endorsement. Richardson would start any new position with a bit of a taint as, after all, "Carville said he sold his endorsement back in March 2008..."

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE1MTIwMzUwMTYwZTkzNDA2NWZhNzZhZDRkZjI2YTI=

On a simplistic level, to me, it looks petty and nasty. Do people vote their conscious or do they vote for the good of their country? To me, Carville answered that question. He voted due to his loyalty to the Clinton brand NOT for the love of country.

 

[wvrevy]

Are we really all naive enough to think that no matter who Richardson endorsed there would have been a quid pro quo? Good grief folks, he's going to GET something for this from Obama and he would have gotten something from Hillary had he gone with her. My feeling is he liked Obama's offer better.

See, I disagree. When you hear Richardson talk about why he endorsed Obama, he doesn't strike me as being disingenuous in his reasoning. Considering I'm usually the cynical type when it comes to politics, I would at least like to think I could recognize that. But Obama being who he is, I honestly want to believe that it's possible for a nationally known politician such as Bill Richardson to do something because he believes it's the right thing to do, not because of what's in it for him.

 

[NewJersey]

Yes, ma'am!

When we we're living in the city, there used to be a couple bars on the LES that we'd frequent with great music and $1 PBRs. I love our place in Florida, but man...that was livin'!

You guys see the Today Show this morning? It opened with the debunking of Hillary's sniper fire story by reporters who were there with her and was followed up by her fuzzy math regarding how important the electoral vote is in a primary. She's definitely taking beating today...

Oh man, I wish I had seen that. Glad to see her exaggeration of her foreign policy experience is starting to catch on as well as her latest attempt to claim the nomination.

 

[Fitswimmer]

See, I disagree. When you hear Richardson talk about why he endorsed Obama, he doesn't strike me as being disingenuous in his reasoning. Considering I'm usually the cynical type when it comes to politics, I would at least like to think I could recognize that. But Obama being who he is, I honestly want to believe that it's possible for a nationally known politician such as Bill Richardson to do something because he believes it's the right thing to do, not because of what's in it for him.

I know that's what he said, and it was a lovely speech-but I just don't buy that it's all that pure. I'm too cynical when it comes to politics.

I think setting people up as beyond such tactics is just going to lead to disappointment when they turn out to be not that much different than anyone else in politics.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

On a simplistic level, to me, it looks petty and nasty. Do people vote their conscious or do they vote for the good of their country? To me, Carville answered that question. He voted due to his loyalty to the Clinton brand NOT for the love of country.

Honestly, I found the Carville quote a bit amusing. Richardson himself laughed it off.

What really gets my goat is the Clinton campaign's claim that Richardson's opinion doesn't matter because it came after it could have been "effective" (AKA after Texas). Do the Clinton people actually believe that just because Gov. Richardson is Latino, that only Latinos care about what he has to say?!?! My wife is 1st generation Chilean-American and she took great offence to Mark Penn's comment, as if white, black, and Asian Democrats somehow don't care what the "Hispanic governor" has to say and that his endorsement is meaningless to anyone but Hispanics. My feeling is, many other Latinos probably feel the same way.

 

[lilyv]

On a simplistic level, to me, it looks petty and nasty. Do people vote their conscious or do they vote for the good of their country? To me, Carville answered that question. He voted due to his loyalty to the Clinton brand NOT for the love of country.

You put it very well.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

I've been pondering Carville's comments over the past couple of days, (and also noticing the total silence from Clinton...) and I've wondered exactly what he meant. I understand what their goal is, now. Good try, Carville/Clinton, but you're dishonorable intent is showing.

"If Richardson Is Supposed To Be Judas, What's the Thirty Silver Pieces?

Yesterday on the Clinton campaign's conference call, a reporter asked, "If Bill Richardson is Judas Iscariot in the mind of James Carville, who is Hillary in that metaphor?" (The Hillary camp didn't want to touch that answer.) A Democratic strategist yesterday told me yesterday he's more interested in another part of the metaphor: What were the "thirty silver pieces"?

It's a brilliant bit of nasty political jujitsu to audaciously charge, without evidence, that Richardson traded his endorsement for a reward of some kind. What Carville's comment does is make it much harder for a President Obama to put Richardson in his cabinet. Not impossible, obviously, but Secretary-of-State-designate Richardson (to pick a hypothetical example) would inevitably face questions of whether there was a quid pro quo for his endorsement. Richardson would start any new position with a bit of a taint as, after all, "Carville said he sold his endorsement back in March 2008..."

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE1MTIwMzUwMTYwZTkzNDA2NWZhNzZhZDRkZjI2YTI=

My almost 84-year old momma was watching the Sunday morning 'talking heads' and immediately after Carville made his comment said "Hummmph, and does he think his own wife's real name is Mary Magdeline instead of Matalin? Does he know he's married to a prostitute?" I laughed until my head hurt. My momma is a card!

 

[NewJersey]

Honestly, I found the Carville quote a bit amusing. Richardson himself laughed it off.

What really gets my goat is the Clinton campaign's claim that Richardson's opinion doesn't matter because it came after it could have been "effective" (AKA after Texas). Do the Clinton people actually believe that just because Gov. Richardson is Latino, that only Latinos care about what he has to say?!?! My wife is 1st generation Chilean-American and she took great offence to Mark Penn's comment, as if white, black, and Asian Democrats somehow don't care what the "Hispanic governor" has to say and that his endorsement is meaningless to anyone but Hispanics. My feeling is, many other Latinos probably feel the same way.

Going along those lines could you imagine if Richardson had called Clinton to endorse her and Clinton tells him its a few weeks too late and it doesn't matter anymore?

 

[chris1gill]

Going along those lines could you imagine if Richardson had called Clinton to endorse her and Clinton tells him its a few weeks too late and it doesn't matter anymore?

Umm, yeh, I don't think so... don't think that would be the case there....

Today's quote of the day via McCain?

"We're succeeding in Iraq and I don't care what anybody says"

Well, that there folks is what ya got.... Sound a bit familiar??

 

[NewJersey]

Umm, yeh, I don't think so... don't think that would be the case there....

Today's quote of the day via McCain?

"We're succeeding in Iraq and I don't care what anybody says"

Well, that there folks is what ya got.... Sound a bit familiar??

Sounds like Bush's my way or the highway.

Succeeding how? Keeping deaths lower than what they were last year? Then yes. But not succeeding politically in Iraq thats for sure - whatever happened to those benchmarks? I guess the Iraqi parliament would rather be on vacation.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Umm, yeh, I don't think so... don't think that would be the case there....

Today's quote of the day via McCain?

"We're succeeding in Iraq and I don't care what anybody says"

Well, that there folks is what ya got.... Sound a bit familiar??

Sounds like "So?" from Dick Cheney

 

[NewJersey]

Sounds like "So?" from Dick Cheney

He is such an ***.

 

[NewJersey]

Just read that we will be doing a bus tour of PA starting on Saturday in W. PA and heading east.

 

[chris1gill]

Just read that we will be doing a bus tour of PA starting on Saturday in W. PA and heading east.

Excellent, have any details yet?

 

[reeddi]

I get to see Obama TOMORROW in Greensboro!!!
I was listening to the radio yesterday morning and they said he was coming on Wednesday. I got to work and looked on the Obama website but nothing was listed so I looked up the Guilford county Democrat site. I called them for information. (YEAH!!!) They were only handing out 2000 tickets so I drove quickly from Winston to the headquarters in Greensboro and picked up my 2 tickets. He is doing a town hall meeting at the theater. I can't believe my DH and I are actually going to see him speak and that it is limited to only 2000 people and not an arena speech.

Reeddi

 

[chris1gill]

I get to see Obama TOMORROW in Greensboro!!!
I was listening to the radio yesterday morning and they said he was coming on Wednesday. I got to work and looked on the Obama website but nothing was listed so I looked up the Guilford county Democrat site. I called them for information. (YEAH!!!) They were only handing out 2000 tickets so I drove quickly from Winston to the headquarters in Greensboro and picked up my 2 tickets. He is doing a town hall meeting at the theater. I can't believe my DH and I are actually going to see him speak and that it is limited to only 2000 people and not an arena speech.

Reeddi

NO Way! That is so awesome, how long a drive was it? I'd have been on pins and needles all the way there!

That's a small event, hopefully he will have many many small events over the next six weeks....

 

[ckay87]

Excellent, have any details yet?

I looked into it this morning and just read that he's travelling from western PA and ending in the southeast. I wish they'd announce a schedule so I could make plans.

It's about time! Hillary and co. have been all over the place around here.