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I poke my head in to read the Hillary thread from time to time but there is always the same one or two posters who are so degrading to Obama supporters, but I think the majority of them are just like us: we feel passionately for our candidate and want to see our candidate the nominee, but would like the Democrat to be President.

I do think sometimes we get blinded by our support but I try to see the negative things Obama campaign does (like Powers calling Clinton a monster) but I rarely see the other side do the same.

Obama's delegate lead increased another 10. Now up to 121.
 
Great Op-Ed that spells out the line that Clinton has crossed, and why it's so disloyal to the Democratic Party.


"Who would Hillary Clinton rather be president, Barack Obama or John McCain? The answer should be obvious. But these days Clinton keeps saying that McCain is ready to be commander-in-chief, and Obama is not.

"I think it's imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," Clinton said yesterday. "I believe that I've done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you'll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy."

This is not a new line for Clinton. A few days before March 4, she said: "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say. He's never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

Now, if she wanted to help ensure that a Democrat wins in November, Clinton could say: "Barack Obama is qualified to be commander-in-chief but I'm more qualified." That's a perfectly reasonable argument. Instead she's sowing doubts about a fellow Democrat while talking up the GOP nominee, a strategy that plays right into McCain's hands. When McCain says, in a general election, that Obama is not ready to be commander-in-chief, he'll only have to cite Clinton.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080307/cm_thenation/
:thumbsup2 This is something that is really pissing me off about Clinton.
 
I so agree about Hillary's tactics. Both DH and I were for her in Jan., until she started with the dirty tricks. We both voted for Obama in Feb. She scares me, she will end up getting McCain elected.

I feel so strongly that we must have a Democrat in the WH this time. I fear what the republicans will do to the Supreme Court, and that will last far longer than 4 years.

I think at this point she will say and do anything to get the nomination, and I am not sure she can win in Nov. If she keeps up the rhetoric on how bad Obama is she is hurting herself too. I only hope that Obama can win PA in a big way and this will be over.

If Hillary is the nominee I will hold my nose and vote for her. The thought of even 4 years of McCain is just terrifying. Hasn't the country suffered enough under Bush? Is Hillary so self-centered that she can't see this? I think it has become less about her wanting to help the country and more about being the "first women president". But than Bill and Hillary have always put themselves first and the country second.
 
HI, thanks. Lucky you. Too bad I've got to get up in the am.
I've been sort of here for a few days, but have been on the liberal board for quite some time. I actually only 'declared' really, and made up my mind, in the last day or so. Go back about a page or two, not very far back, and you'll find my post.
And, I'm talking about the Clinton board. I'm still stunned. I think this in fight not only here but in the media is going to sink us. I suspect the cons are all over themselves with laughter at how we are giving them all the ammo they need.

Oh, the Clinton board, I checked in once or twice, that was it... seemed over the top, I think we're much kinder here :goodvibes

I agree with everyone in the prior posts who have commented on the tactics now being used, they will sink us in November I'm sorry to say... What a sorry state of affairs....

Personally I hope they put Florida and Michigan back into play somehow so Obama can get to 2025 even if he doesn't win those states... he'll still get almost half the delegates, plus with the upcoming contests, I think it'll be enough to push him over... By the way, I heard last night if they don't make a decision by Monday there will be no re-vote, they will miss the cutoff for filing.
 

HI, thanks. Lucky you. Too bad I've got to get up in the am.
I've been sort of here for a few days, but have been on the liberal board for quite some time. I actually only 'declared' really, and made up my mind, in the last day or so. Go back about a page or two, not very far back, and you'll find my post.
And, I'm talking about the Clinton board. I'm still stunned. I think this in fight not only here but in the media is going to sink us. I suspect the cons are all over themselves with laughter at how we are giving them all the ammo they need.



The cons are definitely eating it up.

I was watching Bill Maher last night and Terry McAuliffe was on and he was ripping into him about Hillary and her McCain comments and he was making all sorts of excuses and ooops, there went the satellite signal.
 
The cons are definitely eating it up.

I was watching Bill Maher last night and Terry McAuliffe was on and he was ripping into him about Hillary and her McCain comments and he was making all sorts of excuses and ooops, there went the satellite signal.

Honestly, this race looks like a circus and while I think Clinton has gone off the deep-end, the comments of some of Obama's staffers isn't generally helping the cause.
 
Honestly, this race looks like a circus and while I think Clinton has gone off the deep-end, the comments of some of Obama's staffers isn't generally helping the cause.

Yup, I know.
I wish they would all stop.
 
Here is some Saturday morning laughs:

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_030708WAB_hillary_ad_KC.328ab14f.html

The girl in the 3 am ad for Hillary is an Obama supporter. :lmao:

What time are WY caucuses over? I thought I read they start at different times throughout the day.

That's interesting.... about the girl that is.

I thought they started in the morning their time, but then I heard Chris Mathews will be on MSNBC at 7pm & that's when they should start receiving or should have received numbers... CNN is starting their political Ballot Bowl at 2pm, so they usually have a ticker that indicates what time the primary/caucus is.... That's the best information I can give you LOL....
 
CNN has 30% of the caucus reports in and it's 58% Obama / 40% Clinton. :thumbsup2
 
Man, I just came back from the 'other' thread. Whoa, are they wrapped a little too tight. I thought the Bush-Kerry stuff was hardball nasty. Considering that I just came out for BO this week, I am stunned and amazed. I think I'm going to go hanging out with Ms Early Light and Epcot Joe at the Con board, I think it's more welcoming than that one.
Got to say folks, we got trouble, we got terrible terrible trouble.

Wow, I am shocked. I give up. I'm heading to the liquor cabinet.

prof, i was concerned that you haven't returned to the HC board, but a couple of folks over there indicated that there had to be some mixed signals regarding your last post:

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Originally Posted by profdsny


I don't know that there are a lot of people angry at him. Those that are may well be because, (1) they still believe that he is a Muslim, (2) he isn't a patriot because he doesn't wear a flag pin, or (3) because he is not a white male

But, you made the statement. Why do you believe that?



Response by an HC supporter


A) I know he's not a muslim.
B) I don't give a damn about a pin
C) I don't give a damn what race he is either

D) You're kind of a jerk to imply any of the above.




Prof, several of us (including me) interpreted your post to be "baiting". Others indicated that you are a reasoned poster & it couldn't be racial baiting.

We all support our candidate, but i can't believe any BO or HC supporter would want to have racism or sexism part of the discussion. If we've interpreted your remarks (above) wrong, please return & set us straight.

This is my one & only post on the BO thread. But i thought it important that we be corrected (preferably nicely) if we've read too much in the post.

& to all.......fwiw, I'll vote for BO if he wins the nomination, & I would support his nomination (over HC) if he wins the nationwide popular vote.

Sorry for the intrusion.


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At 43% reporting, it's 66% Obama / 33% Clinton :yay:
 
Prof, several of us (including me) interpreted your post to be "baiting". Others indicated that you are a reasoned poster & it couldn't be racial baiting.

We all support our candidate, but i can't believe any BO or HC supporter would want to have racism or sexism part of the discussion.

I'm not profdsny, but I will say it didn't seem like the remark was baiting to me. I don't think any Obama or Clinton supporter would try that. It seemed that the remark was about the few small-minded people who do think that things like flag pins matter, contesting the notion that "a lot of people" are angry at Barack, and wondering why a Hillary supporter would believe "a lot" are. I think people who care about lapel pins, religious beliefs and ethnicity when choosing a candidate wouldn't vote for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
 
Barack just won Cheyenne with 61% of the vote, that's the largest polling station in the state of Wyoming.... that's great news :thumbsup2

I agree with Laura's assessment, however, I know one woman who voted for Clinton because she was a woman, and I know one woman who voted for Clinton because she would not vote for a Muslim, some people will just never look at the issues or hear the truth about certain things.
 
Of course once Obama wins Wyoming the Clinton supporters will say Wyoming is another state that doesn't matter. That's okay, lets just keep racking up the delegate count with all those states that "don't count".
 
Of course once Obama wins Wyoming the Clinton supporters will say Wyoming is another state that doesn't matter. That's okay, lets just keep racking up the delegate count with all those states that "don't count".

Don't worry, they're already saying it... Just keep telling yourself that.... that's what I say, as we rack up the delegates.
 
58-41%!

Great statement from the campaign:

The Obama campaign sent out this memo today...

The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down. They have called their attacks the “kitchen sink strategy,” and Senator Clinton herself has referred to it as “the fun part” of the campaign. The result has been a constant barrage of attacks about Senator Obama’s record that they know full well aren’t true. And yet they repeat them, over and over again, day after day, in an attempt to deceive the American people just so that they can win this election.

This may be fun for the Clinton campaign, but this is exactly why people don’t trust their leaders anymore. This is exactly why so many people are so cynical about the political process. And it’s exactly what Barack Obama is running to change.

There is no more serious issue than the war in Iraq. 150,000 American troops are risking their lives every day in a conflict that this President and John McCain have no intention of ending anytime soon. It’s a conflict that’s cost us thousands of lives, billions of dollars, stretched our military and taxed their families, and has seriously undermined our national security, our moral standing, and our ability to go after Osama bin Laden and the core leadership of al Qaeda and finish the job against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose this war before it began for these exact reasons. Senator Clinton voted for this war, and yet she continues to tell the American people that her vote was for diplomacy even though the resolution was titled, “Joint Resolution to Authorize the use of Military Force Against Iraq.”

When Senator Obama arrived in the Senate, he called for a phased withdrawal before Senator Clinton did. He also introduced comprehensive legislation in the Senate to begin removing combat troops at a pace of 1-2 brigades a month, with an end date for completing that drawdown – legislation that became the basis for the Senate Democrats’ plan to end the war.

Barack Obama has said, repeatedly, that when he is President, his first act will be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff and ask them to immediately put in place his plan for withdrawal. He’s also said, as he did recently on 60 Minutes, that as Commander-in-Chief he would retain the flexibility to implement this withdrawal in a way that ensures the safety and security of our troops. But there has never been a doubt about the purpose of his policy – ending this war and bringing our troops home on a timetable for withdrawal.

The Clinton campaign knows full well that this is Senator Obama’s position, and they know full well that this flexibility is what his former advisor was referring to. They know it because preserving flexibility for the Commander-in-Chief has also been Senator Clinton’s position – or at least it was until she made the judgment that attacking Barack Obama on this issue is more politically beneficial to her campaign.

Washington has played too much politics with the issue of war. It’s what got us into Iraq in the first place. It’s why so many brave Americans have lost their lives. And it’s why the real Commander-in-Chief test in this election isn’t about some TV ad, it’s about whether the American people will be able to trust in the judgment and the honesty of their next President.

If the Clinton campaign wants to have a serious debate about who opposed the war in Iraq and who’s more committed to ending it, we’re more than happy to have that debate. But they should stop playing politics with war, and they should stop telling the American people things that they know aren’t true. We will not let this campaign be about who can tear each other down. We owe it to the American people to try and lift this country up.
 
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