Obama supporters! - A positive place to talk about his campaign

[yasmina]

Darn, I guess my hopes were too high for an Obama blow-out.

But at least as of right now, the margin is only 6%:

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

 

[PixieDust32]

She won, but she didn't won BIG!!

 

[marybet]

I just listened to her speech, and I just wanted to puke. You would think she won the nomination, not lost a 20+ point lead. Now it continues to drag on and I am just so afraid that she will ruin it for Obama and McCain will win.

Please someone give me a positive spin on this. I can't afford to leave the country if McCain wins.

 

[chris1gill]

I just listened to her speech, and I just wanted to puke. You would think she won the nomination, not lost a 20+ point lead. Now it continues to drag on and I am just so afraid that she will ruin it for Obama and McCain will win.

Please someone give me a positive spin on this. I can't afford to leave the country if McCain wins.

Well, if you didn't like what she said wait until the Republican party releases a new ad in North Carolina tomorrow against Obama.....

The way to spin it is this, Obama leads in pledged delegates, popular vote and states won. However, the Clinton's are like a brand that don't go away, so I wouldn't count on any of that to actually count.

As for leaving the country, well, plenty do have the funds to go but they're the beneficiary's of the greatest government help.

 

[chris1gill]

She won, but she didn't won BIG!!

But Buchanan says she clobbered him with a 10 point margin.

 

[marybet]

I listened to Obama and I feel better.

I heard Tim Russert talking about that ad in NC. Do you think it will wake up the voters to what the Republicans are doing and have done in the last two elections? How much mud do you think they will sling before it comes back and smacks them? McCain may say he'll take the high road but I don't believe it. He will be just like Bush, he'll do whatever he has to do to win, and I think he will let Rove help him.

 

["Got Disney"]

I listened to Obama and I feel better.

I heard Tim Russert talking about that ad in NC. Do you think it will wake up the voters to what the Republicans are doing and have done in the last two elections? How much mud do you think they will sling before it comes back and smacks them? McCain may say he'll take the high road but I don't believe it. He will be just like Bush, he'll do whatever he has to do to win, and I think he will let Rove help him.

the General will have alot of mud slinging. There are many independents that will pay for negative adds themselves like the swift boat situation. It will not be a pretty election for anyone. Even if there are many that dint like the bad adds they will be hered and seen and thought about.

I cant see any different in this election from the last 30 years that I have voted in. It is a race for the most important JOB in the US and it will not be given up easy. I still feel that the DNC and the SD will try there hardest to get them on a ticket together. Than McCain would never have a chance. Between the OS and the HS he would be smushed. Alone I'm not so sure.

 

[chris1gill]

I listened to Obama and I feel better.

I heard Tim Russert talking about that ad in NC. Do you think it will wake up the voters to what the Republicans are doing and have done in the last two elections? How much mud do you think they will sling before it comes back and smacks them? McCain may say he'll take the high road but I don't believe it. He will be just like Bush, he'll do whatever he has to do to win, and I think he will let Rove help him.

Personally, I think it will be HEINOUS, BUT, Obama has the resources to go after McCain visa vi GOP to fight their heinous commercials. He has already said that when it comes to the general, he will not be so kind to his opponent. I'm sure his campaign either already has or will have within 6 hours time a counter ad up on the screen. There is plenty of ammunition to fight McCain with, what a laundry list they must have....

This is what happens when you have to fight a war from two fronts like he is doing.

Another happy thought for the evening, HRC only netted 14 delegates tonight. With the delegates Obama earned he is only 143 delegates short of earning the majority of pledged delegates... That's a plus for the evening.

 

[marybet]

Another happy thought for the evening, HRC only netted 14 delegates tonight. With the delegates Obama earned he is only 143 delegates short of earning the majority of pledged delegates... That's a plus for the evening.

That's good to hear. I am going to take that happy thought off to dreamland.

 

[LuvDuke]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";24661511]the General will have alot of mud slinging. There are many independents that will pay for negative adds themselves like the swift boat situation. It will not be a pretty election for anyone. Even if there are many that dint like the bad adds they will be hered and seen and thought about.

I cant see any different in this election from the last 30 years that I have voted in. It is a race for the most important JOB in the US and it will not be given up easy. I still feel that the DNC and the SD will try there hardest to get them on a ticket together. Than McCain would never have a chance. Between the OS and the HS he would be smushed. Alone I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]

Take notice no one has asked you to leave yet. It would be nice if you extended that courtesy.

Btw, many of us here read the "other" thread who's posters consist of people who wouldn't vote for a Democrat if the vote came with a $100 bill and have picked apart Hillary Clinton and will continue to do so.

And I don't think any Obama supporter has fallen apart as you claimed they would on that other thread.

 

[NewJersey]

Well I'm definitely disappointed but we deserve a congratulations too as we certainly closed a 25 point gap down to 10 points.

We may have lost last night but I think we still will win the nomination - no way are the supers going to take this away from the voters.

 

[wvrevy]

But Buchanan says she clobbered him with a 10 point margin.

Yeah, but Buchanan's an idiot.

There's a lot of talk this morning that some people in the Obama camp are ready to take the gloves off and stop playing nice. There seems to be a division in the campaign at this point, with about half wanting to really hammer Hillary on things like her NAFTA flip-flop, her Iraq war vote and Iran war-mongering, and everything else, and the other half wanting to continue as they have and stay above it with only minor counter-punching.

Along with the campaign, I'm of two minds about it. I like that he has tried to remain above it all. The question is, will he get credit for that effort if he now goes negative, or will they just call him a hypocrite instead of someone forced into that strategy by another candidate who is obviously more than willing to get down in the slime? At the same time, I almost wish that his creative campaign staff would get to work putting Hillary out of her (and our) misery. I can just see it now:

Fade in: Hillary's latest ad featuring Osama bin Ladin.
Voiceover: The Hillary Clinton rule of politics is that you should vote for her out of fear. We'd like you to see a few people that disagree with that strategy.

Show brief clips of:

FDR - "The only thing we have to fear is...fear itself."
Eleanor Roosevelt - "You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing which you think you cannot do."

Voiceover: But Barack Obama believes that this former president probably said it best.
Clip: Bill Clinton saying, "Now one of Clinton’s laws of politics is this: If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think...if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."

Barack: "I'm Barack Obama, and not only do I approve this message, I couldn't have said it better myself."

 

[NewJersey]

Yeah, but Buchanan's an idiot.

There's a lot of talk this morning that some people in the Obama camp are ready to take the gloves off and stop playing nice. There seems to be a division in the campaign at this point, with about half wanting to really hammer Hillary on things like her NAFTA flip-flop, her Iraq war vote and Iran war-mongering, and everything else, and the other half wanting to continue as they have and stay above it with only minor counter-punching.

Along with the campaign, I'm of two minds about it. I like that he has tried to remain above it all. The question is, will he get credit for that effort if he now goes negative, or will they just call him a hypocrite instead of someone forced into that strategy by another candidate who is obviously more than willing to get down in the slime? At the same time, I almost wish that his creative campaign staff would get to work putting Hillary out of her (and our) misery. I can just see it now:

Fade in: Hillary's latest ad featuring Osama bin Ladin.
Voiceover: The Hillary Clinton rule of politics is that you should vote for her out of fear. We'd like you to see a few people that disagree with that strategy.

Show brief clips of:

FDR - "The only thing we have to fear is...fear itself."
Eleanor Roosevelt - "You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing which you think you cannot do."

Voiceover: But Barack Obama believes that this former president probably said it best.
Clip: Bill Clinton saying, "Now one of Clinton’s laws of politics is this: If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think...if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."

Barack: "I'm Barack Obama, and not only do I approve this message, I couldn't have said it better myself."

Please quit your day job and go into ad writing for Obama.

 

[LuvDuke]

But Buchanan says she clobbered him with a 10 point margin.

During one of his interuptions, he told Rachel Maddow something along the lines of "end the Marxist rhetoric". I thought she was going to take a swing at him.

 

[NewJersey]

During one of his interuptions, he told Rachel Maddow something along the lines of "end the Marxist rhetoric". I thought she was going to take a swing at him.

Thank God MSNBC has her to combat that driveling nonsense of Buchanan.

 

[LuvDuke]

Geez, Hillary won in a state she was supposed to win. I'm shocked.

Did anyone catch Terry McAuliffe? The thought of that slime bucket anywhere near the WH again ought to sicken anyone. I love the idea that she's going to win in the popular vote .............. counting Michigan and Florida, of course. That's just a sample of the 4 years of double talk and "parsing" if Hillary gets near the WH. That alone should make people take notice.

The only thing that disturbs me more is McCain in the WH. It isn't going to happen. That DNC ad last night was brilliant. McCain is dead in the water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFDc4M_PMNk

 

[NewJersey]

Terry McAwful is at the top of the list of sleazy, slimeball public figures - I don't want him anywhere near the White House.

 

[chobie]

So, how is that the Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama in the GE, even though his policies are almost identical to hers; and that her supporters want the super delegates to disregard the will of the voters and coronate her, but we're the ones drinking kool-aid?

 

[WildernessBride]

Well I'm definitely disappointed but we deserve a congratulations too as we certainly closed a 25 point gap down to 10 points.

We may have lost last night but I think we still will win the nomination - no way are the supers going to take this away from the voters.

I agree...I am not losing hope, Barack is still ahead, still has a lot of support nationwide. Yes, it is disappointing to have lost in Pa, but he turned it around and made inroads in a state that Clinton had all the advantages in, namely the support of Ed Rendell.

I am not "falling apart" over the loss, there is no need to because Obama's camapign is still strong. However, what is bothering me immensely is the fact that Democrats are tearing the Democratic Party apart, last nights exit polls in Pennsylvania prove this out....for example 29% of newly registered Democrats who voted Obama would not vote for Hillary if she was the nominee. Democrats in Pa signed up thousands of new Democrats, however, if these new and mostly young voters sense that the DNC is not interested in the will of the voters and choose Hillary over Barack, these new voters will be getting the feeling that their vote made no difference and they will most likely go back to being apathetic about elections. I am so sick of hearing how this is good for the party when it clearly is not. Last night my husband and I were talking and he, who already had said to me that if Obama doesn't win he would have to vote for Hillary, has now altered his position because it wears on you to hear a fellow democrat trash a another democrat, that's all that is going on now. Sometimes it seems like there will be no Republican nominee at all...all the hate and vitriloic speech is against a Democrat...anyone out there want to attack McCain????!!!! All of the bickering and arguing amongst people who supposedly share the same ideologies makes me sick, as well as many other Democrats who now are beginning to feel that if their candidate doesn't get the nomination they will not vote at all or, like my husband, vowed last night, to write Obama in if he's not the Dems choice(even though he acknowledged that it would be commiting political suicide)....he even said he would change his affiliation to Independent. I am beginning to agree because I have never been so disgusted with the lack of leadership on the part of the DNC. I am so sad and disappointed that this will most likely go on till late August, when the convention begins. I always think of 1968 when I think about this...the year that dems had a chance but let their bickering help to lead Nixon on to the White House.....and we all know how that turned out.

 

[WildernessBride]

During one of his interuptions, he told Rachel Maddow something along the lines of "end the Marxist rhetoric". I thought she was going to take a swing at him.

I saw that too...I love Rachel Maddow!!!