Anjelica
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I see you folks have started discussing politics ~ One of my favorite topics. However I usually try not to talk politics with most of my friends (as about 50% are die hard liberals and I'm a die hard conservative).
I do feel Obama is a socialist/marxist. He seems to steer clear of those titles although many of his ideas are right in line with those ideaologies. He's been pretty clear cut on his idea of sharing the wealth, which I can totally respect ~ the fact that he is upfront and honest about that. I don't agree with those ideas at all but he has made it very clear where he stands.
I'm a conservative more so on the fiscal side of things. I don't believe in some of the left leaning economic policies. I am also a conservative because I'm not a big government kind of gal. I don't believe necessarily the government should always be around to take care of me and my family.
I think what it boils down to is two words ~ Personal Responsibility ~ and the lack there of in this society. 100 years ago it really was every man/family for themselves. I believe that in our more civilized society today we have the duty to take care of those who truly cannot take care of themselves. But what we have created is a society where many of those that have the physical and mental stability to take care of themselves do not and "rely" on government to think for them and take care of them.
I think this election really boils down to two ways of thinking in terms of the economy/government. I think Obama's view on socialism and how big government can "spread the wealth" is, well to be honest, obnoxious. This country was founded on entrepreneurial and small business and its one of the reason's this country thrives as it does today. Taxing small businesses more is a GREAT way to stifle the economy and tone down any entrepreneurial dreams many may have. If we want an example of "great" working socialism lets look to some of our European brothers and sisters. France alone has a 25% unemployment rate.
Socialism works in a society of 50 people not 300 million people. Taxing the guy who worked his a$$ off to get where he is today is not really the answer. What incentive would the person who is working harder to become something that may pay better than say other professions have if he has to give more of his money away to those who picked say another profession? Do we really want our doctors to be taxed at a rate where they make less and less and therefore less incentive to be one?
Big government is also a pet peeve of mine. For example ~ government run healthcare ~ guess what, we already have two forms of that now. VA and Medicaid and folks they both suck for differing reasons. The VA treats some of these veterans like second class citizens (been there ~ stepmom was in the VA system when she was dying of breast cancer). Every day its a fight for those trying to get their benefits under the VA system. Then you have medicaid which is the polar opposite of the VA system. Some of these people have wayyyyyy to much coverage.
Example ~ (yes true story) ~ but 16 year old is pregnant and is on medicaid (through her mom who is also on medicaid). Because she is 16 she is considered "high-risk" (which baffles me as not sure how 16 year old because she is 16 is high risk) gets 4 ultrasounds before the 12th week. Most normal insurances and doctors, even if high risk, don't order that many ultrasounds before the 12 weeks.
Here in the state of Illinois ~ in 2007 ~ 1 out of every 2 births was paid for by medicaid. Yes that is right ~ 50% of babies born in the state of Illinois are born into medicaid (and pregnancy/delivery was paid for by medicaid). That's a serious issue in itself. I can see 10% or so because I understand people make mistakes but come on 50%??? BTW - Obama is our state senator and has done so much for our state (sorry for the sarcasm).
I do feel Obama is a socialist/marxist. He seems to steer clear of those titles although many of his ideas are right in line with those ideaologies. He's been pretty clear cut on his idea of sharing the wealth, which I can totally respect ~ the fact that he is upfront and honest about that. I don't agree with those ideas at all but he has made it very clear where he stands.
I'm a conservative more so on the fiscal side of things. I don't believe in some of the left leaning economic policies. I am also a conservative because I'm not a big government kind of gal. I don't believe necessarily the government should always be around to take care of me and my family.
I think what it boils down to is two words ~ Personal Responsibility ~ and the lack there of in this society. 100 years ago it really was every man/family for themselves. I believe that in our more civilized society today we have the duty to take care of those who truly cannot take care of themselves. But what we have created is a society where many of those that have the physical and mental stability to take care of themselves do not and "rely" on government to think for them and take care of them.
I think this election really boils down to two ways of thinking in terms of the economy/government. I think Obama's view on socialism and how big government can "spread the wealth" is, well to be honest, obnoxious. This country was founded on entrepreneurial and small business and its one of the reason's this country thrives as it does today. Taxing small businesses more is a GREAT way to stifle the economy and tone down any entrepreneurial dreams many may have. If we want an example of "great" working socialism lets look to some of our European brothers and sisters. France alone has a 25% unemployment rate.
Socialism works in a society of 50 people not 300 million people. Taxing the guy who worked his a$$ off to get where he is today is not really the answer. What incentive would the person who is working harder to become something that may pay better than say other professions have if he has to give more of his money away to those who picked say another profession? Do we really want our doctors to be taxed at a rate where they make less and less and therefore less incentive to be one?
Big government is also a pet peeve of mine. For example ~ government run healthcare ~ guess what, we already have two forms of that now. VA and Medicaid and folks they both suck for differing reasons. The VA treats some of these veterans like second class citizens (been there ~ stepmom was in the VA system when she was dying of breast cancer). Every day its a fight for those trying to get their benefits under the VA system. Then you have medicaid which is the polar opposite of the VA system. Some of these people have wayyyyyy to much coverage.
Example ~ (yes true story) ~ but 16 year old is pregnant and is on medicaid (through her mom who is also on medicaid). Because she is 16 she is considered "high-risk" (which baffles me as not sure how 16 year old because she is 16 is high risk) gets 4 ultrasounds before the 12th week. Most normal insurances and doctors, even if high risk, don't order that many ultrasounds before the 12 weeks.
Here in the state of Illinois ~ in 2007 ~ 1 out of every 2 births was paid for by medicaid. Yes that is right ~ 50% of babies born in the state of Illinois are born into medicaid (and pregnancy/delivery was paid for by medicaid). That's a serious issue in itself. I can see 10% or so because I understand people make mistakes but come on 50%??? BTW - Obama is our state senator and has done so much for our state (sorry for the sarcasm).
Afternoon my Magic Mateys 
He was screamin and bouncing and hugging everybody when they won! My sister had a houseful too. Her three plus two friends a girlfriend and my daughter were all there with John, Tommy, Laurie and me.
They've been there for a day and did their first character meal at Crystal Palace last night. They called to all say Hi to me and let me know how rediculously happy they are that they used my help in planning their trip. She says she's ready to book her next trip with me! I am so happy that they are happy 
