Nothing to See Here...

All right - it’s finally here! The end of this Trip Report! Time to sing "Joy to the World"!








Aunt Betty's Weepy, Wacky, Wonderful
Christmas Trip to Disneyland

(12/4/11 - 12/8/11)




The Aftermath/Post-Trip Update







For auld lang syne, my dear
For auld lang syne,
We'll take a cup o' kindness yet
For auld lang syne!

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And auld lang syne!




Where Are We Now?/Final Thoughts




In the previous installment of this Trip Report, I fought against a budding illness to eat breakfast at Goofy's Kitchen with three DIS'ers - Laurie/DizNee Luver (who kindly and generously treated me), Molly/bumbershoot and Liza/funatdisney - for the purpose of ending the trip on a high note, and the whole convoluted holiday odyssey finally came to a conclusion...which was both a sad and merciful conclusion.

Okay...so you've all been wondering what happened in the wake of this most eventful - and not necessarily in a good way - Disneyland holiday visit of 2011, right? Specifically, you want to know what happened with "M" and what kind of terms we are on right now. Well, I'll tell you...bear with me. We're getting there!

As you know, what I thought was an emerging December head cold turned into a weird 2½ month-long illness that had me falling over in the shower, falling over on the sidewalk on Christmas Day (on the way back from the grocery store) and just not feeling right, so I was not well and not myself for quite a while after the DLR trip was over. I was certainly not in any frame of mind to confront "M" online and ask her why she behaved the way she did. I didn't have the energy for it, and I did not want to stress myself out.

To be honest, even if I had not been sick I'm not sure I would have said anything to "M." I just kind of realized that, even though people grow older and their lives can dramatically change, and they can move far away, some things will always stay the same. Some people stay the same. The specific conflicts with "M" may not be exactly the same as the conflicts I used to have with her in the old days, but there are still conflicts...and that's not a good thing. I think the same basic issues are at the root of all the conflicts, whether they happened in 1981, 1991, 2001 or 2011.

As I age, conflict is something I want less and less of. Life is hard enough without having toxic people around to bring stress, drama and frustration into the mix, and I have way too many other major things to be concerned with at the moment to waste time on a 'friend' (to use that term loosely) who seems to mainly cause me grief.

From what I deduced on Facebook (because information and photos appear right there on our News Feeds, as those of you with Facebook accounts know), "M" was with "V" in the parks all day and night on Wednesday (after they marched past me as I sat on the bench). Then, on Thursday, "M" apparently met up with a new group of friends she made (girls who came in from all over the planet) and spent the day at DLR with them. The friend of "M's" that she wanted to bring to my PPH room ended up staying in "M's" crowded Disneyland Hotel room.

(By the way, unless it was an emergency, would you want to do that - stay in the room of a girl you just met, with her father, husband and young son in the room too? Isn't that a little unusual? To me it’s odd. Heck, I know "M's" family and I wouldn't want to stay in a room with all of them. Why would a stranger want to do that? Odd...)

Then, "M" was also with this same group of girls on Friday, and on Saturday - at Sea World! Apparently "M" and company, and "M's" new friends, all drove down to San Diego to visit Sea World. So she was actually with all of these other friends - "V" and the new girls - much longer than she was with me. The irony is that I, more than anyone, wanted to be the one to show "M" around the parks, and I am the one who used to be "M's" biggest Disneyland buddy. Funny how that worked out.

Periodically I would sign on to Facebook. I did a whole Countdown to Christmas (with photos I've already shown you) in the 12 or 13 days leading up to December 25th. "M" was silent and did not interact with me. When I saw her post assorted status updates, I ignored them. I thought they were stupid. I didn't comment on them or 'like' them or anything. I did make sure to drop a couple of comments in passing (when I was interacting with other people on my Facebook page) about crying on a bench in California Adventure so that "M" would see it and know that I was referring to her nonsense.

I am guessing that "M" figured I was furious with her, and since she is so adept at avoidance (as you have all gathered and pointed out by now), she avoided confronting me. If she had actually written me and asked if/why I was upset with her, I very well may have told her exactly what was on my mind.

But she didn't. "M" didn't write me because, let's face it, she knew precisely why I was upset. There was no mystery about it. It's not as if she had no clue I was upset with her. She didn't want to discuss it with me because she didn't want to deal with it. By avoiding the conflict (conflict that she created), she could pretend she did nothing wrong and stay in denial, so she didn't have to take responsibility.

And I was not going to contact "M" either. There was just no point in it. This was not my first rodeo as far as dealing with her. Even though I hadn't seen her in 10 years prior to this Disneyland fiasco, I knew that it would serve absolutely no purpose and do no good to try to communicate with her. Been there, done that. It wouldn't solve the problem. It wasn't as if "M" was going to suddenly have an epiphany and realize something about herself that she hadn't realized 10 or 20 or 30 years ago.

Rather, I was going to have to be the one to take the high road and handle things differently than I would have handled them in the past. I was going to have to be the mature one. To do that I would have to just drop the whole issue and not even mention it to "M."

So I continued on my merry way of ignoring "M" on Facebook for quite a while. Every now and then she would 'like' something I posted and I would ignore that too.

But then I remembered "S" - "M's" father - who had been the only one to acknowledge me as they all passed me by in DCA...who had bought me a churro in Tomorrowland...who had been sitting out on Main Street by himself while "M" and "R" shopped...who had kindly shown up for my VIP Christmas Fantasy Parade seats even though he wanted nothing to do with anything Christmas-related...who had parked off to the side in Build-A-Bear where he couldn't really get a good look at his grandson putting together a new furry dinosaur friend. "S" is not in good health, and you never know what could happen. I knew he would want to see all the photos I took, and the PhotoPass photos I edited.

So, solely for "S," because he actually showed me some kindness, I posted the DLR photos on Facebook and tagged "M" in them so they would appear on her Facebook page and S would be able to see them. When I did this, "M" must have taken it as a sign that I was extending an olive branch and trying to be chummy again. She started commenting on and 'liking' the photos. I made sure to let her know that I was posting the photos for her dad. She said he loved them.

Oh, and my PhotoPass photos were apparently much more creative than "M's." I did more with them to create different versions of the photos.





An interesting thing that I observed is that my friends - Shawn, Jackie and others who know "M" - were not interacting with "M," either, at least not out in the open on Facebook. Maybe they were chatting with her behind the scenes but no one was 'liking' anything she posted or commenting in any way. I wasn't sure if this was happening in support of me, or if everyone was so disgusted with "M" for her treatment of me that they didn't want to interact with her. All I knew was that our whole group of friends was totally silent as far as interacting with "M." Eventually it got to the point where I was feeling almost guilty in a way, because I hadn't asked for nor expected anyone to ignore "M." I am not a schoolyard bully and we're not kids I'm not going to rally a bunch of people to not talk to someone else.

It was all very strange I am certain that, at some point, "M" must have contacted Shawn or someone via private message, behind the scenes. However, no one told me if/when she did and what she said. No one told me that they were intentionally ignoring her or NOT intentionally ignoring her. I had no clue what was happening. All I knew was that I didn't want anyone else to think that I had somehow caused everyone to stop talking to "M."

To this day I still have no clue what that whole period of silence was about, and no one has 'fessed up to communicating with "M" in e-mails. I never brought any of it up. No one has told me what "M" has said, but I know she must have written them.

Sooner or later, one friend finally liked one of "M's" posts. Then another friend finally commented on something "M" posted. Then another one came out of hiding. And now, to be honest, Shawn and my other friends seem to 'like' and comment on a lot more of "M's" Facebook stuff than mine. Most of the time they don't acknowledge anything I post, but I am always seeing comments from them on "M's" stuff! The tables turned, and I began to realize that I liked it much better when they were all ignoring her! Lol.



The thing is, now that my friends have been interacting with "M" - and these are people who are all better friends with me than with her - my feelings have been a bit hurt because I think it sends the message to "M" that "it's okay to hurt Sherry; we still think you're funny and great."

I began to wonder, did anyone speak up in my defense? Did anyone contact "M" behind the scenes and tell her that what she did was messed up? Or did "M" just talk her way out of it (a.k.a. play dumb) and convince them all that she was telling the truth and that I was not? No one has said anything to me about it.

"M's" male cousin - the one who was livid at her and lashing out on Facebook in December - told "M" that her friends enable her bad behavior. He is totally right. I see it in the way my friends interact with her. They are chatting it up with her on Facebook as if she is a wonderful person who DIDN'T walk past me like a mean girl in high school in DCA! And that bothers me. I feel like everyone is pretending that it didn't happen - or like she somehow got to them and made them think that she did nothing wrong. I don't know that I necessarily want everyone to ignore "M" in such an obvious way, as they all seemed to do for a long time this year, but I guess I would just hope that they wouldn't go out of their way to interact with "M" when they know I can see it all on Facebook.

So, it's a weird dynamic. I usually dread signing on to Facebook nowadays because I know I will see that Shawn, Jackie or one of our group will have 'liked' or commented on some nonsense from "M." It hurts my feelings and makes me want to avoid Facebook. I guess it feels a little disloyal to me, because I am the sort of person who will speak up for my friend if someone hurts them - even if it is another friend who has hurt them. I have done it before. I wouldn't be chummy out in the open with someone who had hurt my friend. I kind of feel like it's insulting, in a way, even if my friends mean no harm by what they're doing.

Am I the only one who would feel this way? I am wondering if anyone else in my shoes would feel bad if their friends were acting overly chummy with someone who had treated them badly? Maybe I am just being overly sensitive and irrational.

Meanwhile, "M" and I pretty much ignore each other most of the time. Every so often she will say something or I will respond and we are civil, but it is really cold. And then I go back to ignoring her again for the next couple of months.

I've seen "M" make a couple of vague comments to other people about coming back out to L.A. and to Disneyland this year I guess in December, but who knows? I am sure as heck not going to ask "M" about it. I don't want to know. If she is coming out here again, I have nothing to do with it. I don't even want to know the dates she would be in town, because if I have my heart set on a particular date I want to go to DLR for whatever reason and then find out that "M" and family are supposed to be there too, I would end up staying home and not going for fear of running into them. I don't want to intentionally compromise my own plans because of "M." I'd rather not know when they were going to be there and then take my chances in the parks - there is a good possibility I would never run into them at all, even if they were there on the same day that I was. (I say that, of course, knowing full well that I simply sat down on a bench outside of A Bugs Land and ran into them! Lol.)

I don't know what will become of my friendship with "M."

Well, maybe that's the wrong choice of words.

I know that after years and years of conflict stemming from her questionable choices, and often times flat-out disregard and hurtful actions, I don't want to deal with that anymore. It's not that I'm mad, per se. I'm just over it. I don't want to dwell and stay mired in anger because it's not good for ME. But I don't want to keep having this problem with "M" by exposing myself to it repeatedly, either. I guess I am just past the point of caring enough to want to try to get through to someone who cannot be gotten through to.

Quite honestly, if not for the fact that my other friends all seem to have no problem interacting with her on Facebook, I probably would have unfriended (or is it defriended?) "M" by now. But it's kind of tough to cut someone from your friend list when your other friends are basically all sending the (non-verbal) message that "M" is cool, and that they like her. It's uncomfortable to try to avoid someone and cut them from your life when all of your good friends are still chummy with her.

Know what I mean? It’s the same type of situation with ex-boyfriends and ex-dates and people of that sort - it's always better to date outside of your circle of friends and outside of your workplace, if you can manage it. If you should happen to date someone in a group with whom you work or play, and then you break up with that person...well, it can get pretty awkward and uncomfortable for many people if that person you broke up with is now gallivanting around town with all of your friends and/or co-workers. It's better to make a clean break, and, thus, better to date people who don't know anyone else that you know.


By the way, speaking of which...I just learned in the last week that "M" became Facebook friends with one of my male friends. She sent the request to him, not vice versa. He never would have friended her, although he remembers her from the old Sunset Strip days of the 1980's (a.k.a. the Poison Years). It is curious timing, as "M" was just recently trying to tell me about someone from the old days, and I didn't care nor have any clue of what she was talking about. I told "M" that the only person I even keep in touch with from the old days - once in a blue moon - is this particular male friend.

Fast forward to now, and "M" has suddenly friended this friend of mine! He hasn't spoken to her. He accepted her request to be polite, and because she knows me. He even thought that I may have pointed her in his direction at first. I set him straight on that, of course. I told him that there was an incident in December and I am trying to kind of slowly drift away from the situation.

I have no clue what "M" is up to. If this were the old days, I would have assumed that "M" was engaging in her usual antics of trying to wedge herself into any friendship I formed with a male, just to divert the guy's attention away from me and onto her. She did that more times than I can count. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn't. She was always trying to somehow get guys to not pay attention to me - and it's not like they were beating down my door to begin with. I was no supermodel. I was lucky if someone paid any attention to me at all, and along would come "M" to try and mess it up for me. (You can imagine my smug satisfaction at being able to go to Disneyland with Bret M. and company back in 1986 - on a day when "M" had to work and couldn't go! Muahahahahahahahahaha!)

But now? "M" is happily married to "B," so she has no reason to be wedging herself into any friendship I have with any male. Therefore, I am not sure what motivated her to friend this particular guy on Facebook, and I am not sure I want to know - but it had better not have anything to do with me! I just wish I had a few solid, good, trustworthy friends who are in no way wrapped up with "M"!!! I need to have a total "M"-free zone!

("M" has been conspicuously silent and not mentioned that she friended this person, by the way.)




Anyway, so that's a bit of what has been going on ever since December..."M" and I ignoring each other for a while, then being civil and polite but not chummy, then back to ignoring each other, while my other friends all seem to be tied up with "M" in some way...and no one is talking to me about what "M" may have said to them behind the scenes, or why they are all of a sudden so nice to her when they were ignoring her for a long time early this year. Meanwhile, NOBODY is bringing up what happened in December except for yours truly. I will occasionally remind Shawn or another friend of the December mess and say that I am done with hanging out with "M." My friends do not respond to what I say. They ignore it.

Back to the Disneyland fiasco of December...what are my final thoughts on the issue? Well, I've given it a lot of thought and I am tired of thinking about it. I have taken everything into consideration. I know that "M" was probably overwhelmed with many family members and friends jockeying for her time when she and the family were in town last year. I know that she was probably torn about who to see on which days. I know that she probably had the plans with "V" all along and just didn't want to tell me. I know that the whole trip was probably a lot to deal with for "M," as it had been so long since she was last in Disneyland and this was her first trip with "R." I know that "M" got caught up in wanting to impress these new friends she made, and wanted to spend as much time with them as possible. I know that "M" probably sees nothing wrong in how she treated me, and if she had any doubts for even a moment, I'm sure she got "B" to back her up and tell her she did nothing wrong.

That's the other thing - I know that some of what "M" was doing was based on her own wants/needs, but she would pass it off as something that "B" or "R" wanted. It was hard to figure out that whole dynamic and determine which things were actually happening because of "M" and which things were happening because of "B's" influence over "M". How much of what went on was really because of "B" pulling rank, and how much of it was really all because of "M?" All I know is that I'm not "B's" daughter or wife, and I did not have to follow any rules he set forth. They should have taken me into consideration.

I don't think that "B" would have wanted "M" to treat me to Goofy's Kitchen, so I'm not sure if she stiffed me on her offer to treat because of "B" directly vetoing it, or because she just got worried that he would say no and so she didn't bring it up to him. Either way, she could have handled it better. There's no reason for things to have transpired in quite the way they did at the Goofy's Kitchen register!

Overall, I don't know how much of The Problem ("M's" apparent irresponsibility and lack of consideration) is solely HER, and how much of it is "B." "M" has always done things like this, in different scenarios and surroundings, of course, so I have to believe that her existing 'stuff' is at the core of the issue above all else.

I think that some people can successfully evolve over time and mature, and certain things they did when they were younger are things they would never conceive of doing today. Other people just don't have a lot of personal insight or self-awareness, and they just can’t bear to be accountable...so they play dumb or ignorant, or they feign forgetfulness and somehow always get off the hook for their bad behavior. This is why there is no point in trying to hash things out with "M." It won’t get us anywhere, and I just don't care at this point. As the saying goes, it is what it is.

I'm sure I could have said or done things differently during the December trip so as not to contribute in any way to the madness, but at the end of the day I was the one who was left hurt and stood up by my friend, while she was off romping around the parks with all of her friends, not caring how bad she made me feel and not caring that she blew me off for the parade and for hanging out without the menfolk, etc. She just didn't care, as long as she got to do what she wanted to do. That's the bottom line, really.

I don't know if "M" and I will continue to remain civil and polite on Facebook, or if we will ultimately just ignore each other indefinitely. I don't know if my other friends will get together with "M" when/if she comes into town in December (or whenever it is). I know one thing for sure - I won’t be going to Disneyland with her. Those days are over. Even if she had treated me to Goofy's Kitchen; even if she hadn't stood me up for the parade; even if she had gotten up earlier in the morning, etc., etc., it still would have been a huge pain because of the stopping and starting and shopping, etc. It still would have been all about them and their family dynamic, without a thought about me. I was apparently just a guest tagging along on [U}their[/U] trip to Disneyland!

It's sad to kind of come to the realization that a particular person in your life - someone you have known for over 30 years and with whom you have shared a lot of experiences - is going to always cause you stress, no matter how much time passes, and that you will always clash in some way, but sometimes that is just how it has to be.




So I think it's safe to say that we can bid farewell to fun times like these:


A photo circa 1993/1994, with a little help from Photobucket's Disney Parks Effects...

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A photo from Halloween 1990 (if only there were a thought bubble above my head)...

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What's Next?




This has been one of the hardest sections of this Post-Trip Update to complete, because I keep changing it as things evolve (or devolve) from day to day!

What is to come? What tricks do I have up my sleeve? What plans do I have in the works? What happens now that Halloween Time at Disneyland is upon us, Fall is settling in and Christmas time is but a whisper away?



Well, first of all...I can look forward to a brand new Hallmark Channel Christmas movie marathon beginning next month (it starts on Saturday, November 3rd, to be exact, and then continues every weekend henceforth - all the way through New Year's Eve, I would imagine)!! These are not the classic holiday movies known to generations worldwide - those will appear on other channels. Instead, the movies on Hallmark are generally Hallmark-produced movies or movies that aired on the Lifetime Network at one point or another, and they often involve romance. There is always some disenchanted Scrooge-like female who dislikes Christmas, and she is inevitably overcome with Christmas magic and ends up falling in love with a dude who is in the spirit of the season. Or, by some twist of fate, a business woman ends up traveling back in time (or forward in time) to prevent something or other from happening, and ends up falling in love. Or, a struggling family experiences a little bit of Christmas magic from Santa.

These (2-month long) Hallmark Christmas movie marathons are great because they are so hokey on the one hand, and yet they are strangely comforting to have on TV in the background, as I'm doing other things. They are all basically feel good movies.

I can also hope to stumble upon a random Rankin-Bass marathon or two on ABC Family throughout the holidays, while catching the Rankin-Bass biggies (such as "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" and "Frosty the Snowman" on a major network such as CBS or ABC). I love me some clay puppet TV shows!! I think my alter ego is Mr. Snow Miser!

I can expect to see Charlie Brown's sad little Christmas tree in the "Peanuts" holiday special and sit with Linus in the Pumpkin patch, waiting for the Great Pumpkin.

I can look forward to some of my favorite, more contemporary, holiday movies popping up on TV here and there - "Love Actually" and "Elf," for example (both gems!) - as well as classics such as "It's a Wonderful Life" and any number of "A Christmas Carol" variations.

I will eagerly await some of the wonderful 'Christmas lights' specials that run on either Travel Channel or TLC each year, and will thoroughly soak up all the Halloween TV specials that are happening this month.

I will once again visit The Grove (near to where I live) and soak in some holiday spirit. Maybe I will even be there to catch some of their man-made snowfall.


Forgive the bad cell phone photos (this is an old flip phone, with a bad camera)...


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I will continue to stalk my neighborhood, taking photos of random flowers and other interesting things, and chances are that I will probably use those photos in more photo calendars that I intend to make for 2013, or for other projects...I will never stop taking pictures - I love it too much.

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If Catalina Express is once again offering a free round-trip boat ride on birthdays beyond April 2013, then I will most likely head to Avalon in July for another round of rampant picture-taking and bad golf cart-driving...


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But what about Disneyland trips? Am I planning anything?

Well, here's the thing. all along I assumed that I would make it to DLR for Halloween Time this year, despite increasing signs that the décor has been scaled back. The season lasts from September 14 October 31st, so I figured I would have a lot of time to figure out how and when I am getting there. Now the time is passing very quickly.


I look forward to seeing this sign in person again...

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And Id love to go to the Halloween Party again...

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Actually, I am excited to see all of these Halloween highlights again...

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I just participated in a Halloween Time-themed podcast with the DIS Unplugged team a couple of weeks ago, as you may recall, and I need to stay up-to-speed on the season for my "Halloween at DLR Superthread":



But...I am encountering one problem after another trying to get down to DLR for Halloween Time.

Liza/funatdisney - who was with me last year for the first day of Halloween Time and for Mickey's Halloween Party - seems to be too busy to go with me again this year, or is not interested or whatever.

Then there is Ros - remember Ros from my day trip to DLR in November 2010 (if you don't, you can find the link to that report on Page 1 of this thread)? She offered to come and pick me up to go to DLR for Halloween Time...but she just did a Halloween trip and went to the MHP with Mary Jo a few nights ago. So I guess that plan is out!

Jackie has offered to let me stay overnight at her house (about 15-20 minutes from DLR), which is very kind of her to do, but it would only work if I were going to be at DLR on a day/night when she could have me as a guest, and could drive me home or pick me up or whatever. If I go to the MHP, that won't work with her schedule.

I've asked Shawn several times if she is interested in going to the MHP, but she has been sick and is still recovering.

Today, the Mickey's Halloween Party page says that all of the MHP nights are sold out except for Friday, October 26, Monday, October 29 and Wednesday, October 31. And I suspect that October 31st will be selling out very soon.

So, basically, I waited too long - and the parties are selling out faster than they did last year - and I am now in the position of being left with a choice of only 2 or 3 specific nights for the MHP, none of which include the AP/pre-purchase discount. All of the discounted nights are sold out.

I began to think it all through. I have said for a while that, eventually I would like to make a trip to Disneyland on Halloween, which I've never done. Would the parks seem more Halloween-ish on Halloween? I think that people trick or treat at the hotels, and I think that there may be a photo spot in the GCH on Halloween. But would the party be more fun? Would the atmosphere be any different on the actual holiday?

I would be willing to go = to make this year the year that I do an actual Halloween day/night trip. My current AP is now all paid off, and I have a little while to decide on whether or not I am renewing the AP right away. I would have to buy an MHP ticket. And I'd have to get down to Anaheim and back, which is proving to be difficult.

On top of all of that, I'd be doing the MHP solo! How sad would that be, collecting candy all by myself?!


...Not to mention the fact that the holiday season at DLR will begin only 12 days after Halloween...

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...And I had planned to be at DLR to see the new decorations in California Adventure's new lands...


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If I am not mistaken, I think I am going to be invited back to do another podcast about the holiday season with the Unplugged team, so being at DLR on opening day or on opening weekend of the season is crucial, for the sake of staying up to date for the podcast discussion, as well as for making note of any of the new decorations for my "Disneyland at Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread"



And then I got to thinking a little more, which brought an ambitious idea to mind. What if I could do a trio of holidays? What if I could head to DLR on Halloween, on Thanksgiving and on Christmas? I don't have any other obligations or plans for those days. I'm all by myself. Why not?

Better yet, what if I could do a 'Year of Holidays,' and hit DLR on all the fun holidays such as Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Easter, July 4th, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's, with maybe an extra day like Mardi Gras or Cinco de Mayo thrown in?

Transportation issues aside, I would have to renew my AP in order to pull any of this off. Between the increased payment prices for the AP and paying whatever would be necessary to get from my neighborhood to Anaheim and back on all of these days, I don't see how it would be possible in my current financial circumstances.

I'm sure I could not pull off the full 'Year of Holidays' idea yet (though that would make a great idea for a blog series and photo project). I don't even think I could pull off a Halloween-Thanksgiving-Christmas trifecta at this point. I would love to - I am not getting any younger and while my schedule is what it is (which means I'm not working), now seems to be the best time to do it. But it's just too hard to get down to DLR and back even one time, let alone 10 or 12 times.

So...sadly, I have reached a dead end. I have thought and thought and pondered and tried to strategize, and I just don't see how I could pull off my 'Year of Holidays' idea, or the Holiday Trifecta idea.

At this rate, I'm not even sure if I'll be going to the Halloween Party or seeing DLR for Halloween Time because it's getting too close to the first day of the holiday season, and that is my main focus.

...Too much to think about...too many problems to solve...no real solutions jumping out at me. I feel trapped and in limbo.

So that's where my actual plans are for Halloween Time - up in the air - and beyond October 31st. And that's what my ambitious idea is - the Year of Holidays - but I doubt I'll be able to make it happen, though it saddens me to say that.









We wish you a merry Christmas
We wish you a merry Christmas
We wish you a merry Christmas
And a happy New Year.

Glad tidings we bring
To you and your kin;
Glad tidings for Christmas
And a happy New Year!










Links to Other Trip Reports/Recommendations



On Page 1, Post #1 of this TR, I have posted links to the pages on which many of my TR's begin. I also have included links to a few of my more recent or more relevant TR's in my signature below (such as my "CARS LAND MANIA" June 2012 TR and my "Return of the Masked Mouse..." TR for Halloween Time 2011),

I mentioned it early on in this "Aunt Betty..." TR, but I will suggest again that you check out my Trip Report entitled, "The Evil Chair & The Peppermint Cone of Death - A 2010 Christmas Tale - Sun., December 12 - Wed., 15, 2010," which starts on Page 83/Post #1244 (ends on Page 110/Post #1641).

There are lots and lots of photos in that epic. I took something like 1600 photos, but used the most decent ones of the bunch (or the semi-decent ones). Plus, I had a run-in with an ice cream cone, a curb, a camera and a trash can that should not be missed (but should be avoided on future trips)!

I will also refer you to Laurie/DizNee Luver's December 2011 TR: "Hubby got a Camera & I got Christmas!!!" While she didn't have the encounters with "M" that I had (lucky her - she only got to meet "B" and "S"), she was part of my December 2011 trip, as you know, and her TR features many wonderful, lovely Christmas-y photos, and a different angle on the whole trip. In fact, she took more photos of the Paradise Pier Room than I did.

And then there is Molly/bumbershoot's December 2011 TR: "Happy happy happy!" As was the case with Laurie, Molly was there with us in December 2011, and while she didn't have the "M" experience, she put together a nice TR about her part of the adventure!!

If you would like to see photos from my action-packed Catalina Island day trip back in July, this is a very short TR thread (only about 4 pages, mostly containing pictures): "Catalina Island/Avalon - My Solo Day Trip, in Photos (LOTS of Photos!)- 7/21/12." I expect to be putting together a Catalina Superthread at some point soon, to help inform and encourage people traveling to SoCal for extended trips to try visiting Avalon as well.








Christmas Song List



I mentioned in the third segment of my Introduction & Background Information/Pre-Trip Report that I love all things Christmas, including the music - whether it's the well-known classics, the more spiritually-based songs or the upbeat, fun songs. I adore them all for the tone they set and the mood they create for me. I've quoted many holiday songs in this Trip Report, as well as one famous poem! Here is a list of the selections (in case some of them were unfamiliar to the readers), broken down by each TR installment:

Day 1, Part 1 - "(Have Yourself a) Merry Little Christmas"
Day 1, Part 2 - "It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas"
Day 1, Part 3 - "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year"
Day 1, Part 4 - "'Twas the Night Before Christmas"


Day 2, Part 1 - "Let it Snow"
Day 2, Part 2 - "Holly Jolly Christmas"
Day 2, Part 3 - "Sleigh Ride"
Day 2, Part 4 - "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree"
Day 2, Part 5 - "Angels We Have Heard on High"
Day 2, Part 6 - "Jingle Bell Rock"
Day 2, Part 7 - "The Christmas Song" (or "Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire)"
Day 2, Part 8 - "What Child is This?"


Day 3, Part 1 -"Winter Wonderland"
Day 3, Part 2 - "Deck the Halls"
Day 3, Part 3 - "White Christmas"
Day 3, Part 4 - "Frosty the Snowman"
Day 3, Part 5 - "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"
Day 3, Part 6 - "O Christmas Tree"
Day 3, Part 7 - "I'll Be Home for Christmas"
Day 3, Part 8 - "Carol of the Bells"


Day 4, Part 1 - "Christmas (Baby, Please Come Home)"
Day 4, Part 2a - "Santa Claus is Coming to Town"
Day 4, Part 2b - "Blue Christmas"
Day 4, Part 2c - "Do They Know It's Christmas?"
Day 4, Part 2d - "Little Drummer Boy"
Day 4, Part 2e - "Silver Bells"
Day 4, Part 2f -"The First Noel"


Day 5, Part 1a - "O Holy Night"
Day 5, Part 1b - "Silent Night"
Day 5, Part 1c - "Jingle Bells"
Day 5, Part 1d - "Christmas Is All Around (from the movie, "Love Actually")
Day 5, Part 1e - "Feliz Navidad"
Day 5, Part 1f - "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen"


The Aftermath, 1a - "Auld Lang Syne"
The Aftermath, 1b - "We Wish You a Merry Christmas"
The Aftermath, 1c - "(Have Yourself a) Merry Little Christmas"






As I said in my previous and final TR installment from Day 5, this story has been a wild ride filled with: fun; merriment; holiday joy; frolicking in the chilly morning air; frustration; stress; anger; drama; suspense; laughter; tears; illness; old friendships falling apart & new friendships being formed; photo sprees; a possibly dangerous shuttle ride into the forest; an awesome Paradise Pier Hotel rate & view; crazy wind gusts; celebrity sightings; a Twilight Zone Lady; 2 Goofy's Kitchen meals; lukewarm spaghetti; peppermint ice cream & gingerbread cookies; zany PhotoPass antics; the revelation of 'Aunt Betty'; a covert nighttime Castle mission that never happened; an indecisive 4-year-old; a bit of wacky humor; and...lots and lots of Christmas songs, too!

Oh - and who could forget the dancing wombat and the flying hairy weasel butt?


I thank you all so, so much for hanging in there with me despite the numerous setbacks and delays. Thank you, too, for the many words of encouragement and support, for the compliments, for the kind sentiments about me and about my Trip Report, etc.

I hope you will join me again on my future, less depressing, Disneyland adventures, whether they are documented in this thread, in another thread...or somewhere else in cyberspace. Stay tuned!








Sing with me now, one last time...you all know the melody...





Here we are as in olden days,
Happy golden days of yore.
Faithful friends who are dear to us
Gather near to us once more.

Through the years we all will be together
If the Fates allow
Hang a shining star upon the highest bough.
And have yourself a merry little Christmas now...








~ THE END ~


Merry Christmas to all...
and to all, a good night!!!
 
Holy Moly.......that was a lot of reading (and great pics!!)

I always find it unfortunate that some people refuse to grow up or look beyond themselves. Some people will always be in the "All About Me, Me, ME!!" mind-set, but will they ever realize how much pain and backlash they cause in this type of selfish behavior? You would hope with age, came realization and even regret for some of our bad behaviors......... I guess "M" isn't at this point in life yet.

She could have handled things so much better by just being honest. My guess is she had most of those "encounters" set up before even arriving. If so, she should have said, "we're meeting lots of different people during our short time there and I'd love to spend such & such day with you, but then I'm going to be doing these days with other people". You would have be prepared and then you could have spent time with Molly & I without feeling like you'd be bailing on her. Even if some of this came up during the trip.....honesty would have been the best way to handle it. You still may have had your feelings hurt a little that she didn't want to include you....but it would have been much better than to pretend they didn't see you (when they obviously had......) and just flat ignore you. NO real friend would treat you that way.

I think adding distance and time was the right thing......I'm just sorry you're feeling like your other friends didn't have your back. They may have, which explained their FB silence but with time, they've moved on. It might just be a coincidence they're "liking" or posting more on her stuff. Hard to say without just flat out asking them (individually) if there's any problems between you and them.

My thought would have been to unfriend "M" on FB.....but curiousity would have made me keep her, just to make sure my name wasn't being drug thru the mud!!!

Anywho's.......... Sometimes we have to let go of our past so we can continue our path. Too much drama, past pains, etc hold us back from enjoying life....... at that point, it's time to let go. You can't change people and we all mature differently......

I hope you'll be able to make it to the parks for at least one of the holidays before years end...... I know it would make your soul smile & who doesn't need that?!!!! :flower3:
 
Thanks for the conclusion/aftermath update. I'm sorry this all happened but I agree with you - the frustration and conflict are no longer worth it. Sometimes ending a "friendship" is the healthiest thing to do. I suspect that if you just completely ignore her and any connection she may still have with your other friends - she will slowly drift away from them as well. She appears to me (not knowing her other than what you've said) to be a manipulative soul. Once she gets the drift that she can't "get" to you by continuing to interact with your friends those interactions will lose their appeal to her and she will show her true colors to them as well. Some people really get a charge out of upsetting others - I don't get it but they do. :confused3 Some people need to put others down to feel good about themselves - sad but true.

Stay positive and focus on the things you enjoy - you are valued here and by your true friends don't forget that and get caught up in her nonsense.

I truly hope you make it to DL this holiday season. The year of holidays plan sounds like a lot of fun!!

Enjoy your week!
 
Great wrap up! Now I'm channeling Judy Garland and my favorite Christmas song. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas....

As for your assessment of 'mean girl M' you are not alone. Personally I would unfriend her so fast on FB my mouse would be smokin'. Aslo, if she had treated one of my personal friends so poorly I would also unfriend her. I agree that friends not calling other friends on deplorable behavior does enable that behavior. Cherish your past memories of "M" and move on unhampered by reminders that some people to not improve with age...

Also - really bizzare that some stranger would bunk with M, her husband, son, and father. Seriously??

Hope your Halloween and Christmas trips pan out. Keeping my fingers crossed!

TK
 

And so it comes to an end.

I so enjoyed this Trip Report and will miss the updates. I enjoyed your "keeping it real" overview of the events, all the Christmas music (my Pandora Christmas station is on as I read/type), etc. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into your sharing. I hope that "getting it all down" has helped you in some way.

I am not surprised by how things are between you and M today. I figured there was no way things could go back to how they were before... pre-walking-past-you-and-ignoring-you. (I still can't get over that. If you were V, and saw your friend M treat a longtime friend in such a horrible way, wouldn't that put up a red flag?)

I'm curious about any behind the scenes communication Jackie, Shawn, etc. might have had with M. If they ignored her in the beginning, and with time just "got over it" -- or if there was more to it.

I'm sorry your plans are so up in the air. I noticed yesterday that most of the parties were sold out. Ugh. I thought it was too crowded the last time I went to a party and I don't think it was sold out then.

That would be great if you could pull off the Year of the Holidays. And start a blog. :) Remember Sherri (can't remember the correct spelling) from Montana? She was going to do that travel blog and get paid? It would be great if your excellent writing skills combined with your photos could be a source of income for you. pixiedust:

:hug:
 
:headache::badpc:


I signed on a while ago to reply to Laurie, Dawn & TK. I noticed that Deej had commented as well, so I paused to read her post.

For some reason I thought to scroll up to the top of the page (where my Aftermath post is) and I happened to notice that the punctuation was messed up in one sentence. Then I glanced throughout the whole post, and most of the punctuation was messed up - in other words, these were not typos. This was like a code had been entered, or maybe there was a hiccup in the server, and most of my punctuation changed.

All of my apostrophes and ... disappeared and/or turned into &'s. All of my quotation marks (single and double) vanished. All of my hyphens vanished. Throughout the entire post. I think it was a technical glitch - I actually recall a similar technical event happening a couple of years ago on the DIS, in which Molly/bumbershoot noticed that her quote in a post was suddenly all weird and had bizarre symbols in it or something like that.

So I tried to go back to the text I had saved on the PC - with the correct punctuation - and copy/save/replace the text in my post here. I saved it. It saved for about 2 seconds, and then all the bizarre &'s reappeared and the other punctuation vanished from the post again. I kept correcting ALL of it and re-saving. I finally had to go through the entire post itself - not copying and pasting any of my saved text - and try to correct what I saw.

Last I checked, all of the weird punctuation was gone, but I'm not sure if I caught all of the spots where the quotes, apostrophes, hyphens, commas or ... had disappeared and replaced them. So there might be some things missing that were there earlier. Also, for all I know - because this is what happened earlier - the weird symbols and disappearing punctuation may occur again, even when I am not touching that post.

In any event, just in case there is anyone out there who reads the Aftermath post - or any other post - and notices a lot of weird symbols or non-punctuation in it, that is not my doing. I actually DO know where apostrophes are supposed to go, and I don't put in "&" every chance I get. My original post had all its hyphens, quotes and other symbols in the right places!

I don't even want to look at any previous posts in the TR - I am too afraid the server hiccup or whatever it was managed to mess all of those up too, and wipe out all of those little details.

I will come back and reply to everyone later - I have a headache now from all of these technical glitches!
 
Should auld acquaintance be forgot? Yup.;)

Only you can decide if un-friending M is the right move. If seeing your other friends interact with her needles you, change some settings to block most things from her. You were the bigger person; she won't change; don't let it corrode your feelings for your other friends by wondering what their relationship with her is based on. Some people on FB seem to like, comment, friend with greater deliberation than others. Or in spurts based on their mood or time available. I wouldn't give M more thought than she's currently worth.

I'm sorry your plans for holiday trips are falling through. Yet another failure of the LA-area public transportation system for someone who doesn't drive. Could you get to the airport and take a Disney airport/hotel shuttle like a non-local? I'm sure you've already thought this through 100 ways and would prefer to go with others too. Going ON a holiday would make that even more challenging.

I'm glad your 10-month odyssey to write this has finally wrapped. I know you have a lot going on with the Halloween and Christmas threads. Thanks for seeing it through. :thumbsup2

PHXscuba
 
A nice wrap up to your trip report. Thank you once again Sherry for taking the time to write up your trip reports.

Just like what everyone have posted that "M" is not that type of person to be a friend where she have treated you during your trip. Using you in a lot of ways during the trip is not a friend. As you have said about walking past you in DCA and not even saying hello is just awful.

I knew that MHP is getting so popular these last few years at DL and it was eventually going to be sold out on the party night. I never imagine that MHP would be sold out the last two years during the slow days but just shows us that it can change. Good thing that I bought my MNSSHP tickets to WDW later this month.

I will be looking forward that you will be able to go back on the podcast and talk about the Holiday season at the DLR. Hope that you will be able to be their the first day of the Holiday season or the first weekend which will be 16-18 which I will be there as you already know.

Hope you feel better.
 
It is not going to be 68 degrees today, as it was supposed to be! The weather forecast lied to me (no shock there)! Now the forecast claims it is going to be 68 degrees tomorrow, and that it will be raining...but then it is supposed to climb back up to the 80's on the weekend. The 80's are not Fall-like. Why can't it just stay settled in a nice Fall weather pattern? Fall will be over before we start to get any real Fall weather! Yes, the 80's are better than the 90's or the 100's, of course - but it's not Fall weather.

Anyway, with much fear and trepidation I ventured over here today, afraid that I would see my "Aftermath" post once again riddled with weird punctuation and symbols - or no punctuation at all - as it was yesterday, even after I corrected it.

So far, so good. I don't see any crazy sprinklings of ampersands thrown into my text, or mysteriously vanishing apostrophes, ellipses, quotes and hyphens. (I still have not had the courage to look at my previous TR installments, to scout for any punctuation mayhem that likely ensued after the suspected server hiccup. It would take forever to correct them.)

On to some replies...

Holy Moly.......that was a lot of reading (and great pics!!)

I always find it unfortunate that some people refuse to grow up or look beyond themselves. Some people will always be in the "All About Me, Me, ME!!" mind-set, but will they ever realize how much pain and backlash they cause in this type of selfish behavior? You would hope with age, came realization and even regret for some of our bad behaviors......... I guess "M" isn't at this point in life yet.

She could have handled things so much better by just being honest. My guess is she had most of those "encounters" set up before even arriving. If so, she should have said, "we're meeting lots of different people during our short time there and I'd love to spend such & such day with you, but then I'm going to be doing these days with other people". You would have be prepared and then you could have spent time with Molly & I without feeling like you'd be bailing on her. Even if some of this came up during the trip.....honesty would have been the best way to handle it. You still may have had your feelings hurt a little that she didn't want to include you....but it would have been much better than to pretend they didn't see you (when they obviously had......) and just flat ignore you. NO real friend would treat you that way.

I think adding distance and time was the right thing......I'm just sorry you're feeling like your other friends didn't have your back. They may have, which explained their FB silence but with time, they've moved on. It might just be a coincidence they're "liking" or posting more on her stuff. Hard to say without just flat out asking them (individually) if there's any problems between you and them.

My thought would have been to unfriend "M" on FB.....but curiousity would have made me keep her, just to make sure my name wasn't being drug thru the mud!!!

Anywho's.......... Sometimes we have to let go of our past so we can continue our path. Too much drama, past pains, etc hold us back from enjoying life....... at that point, it's time to let go. You can't change people and we all mature differently......

I hope you'll be able to make it to the parks for at least one of the holidays before years end...... I know it would make your soul smile & who doesn't need that?!!!! :flower3:


Laurie -

While I'm now uncertain of what will happen with a Halloween plan this year, there's no way I'm missing the holiday season. I don't think a hotel stay is on the horizon for me this year at the rate things are going, but I will definitely be there for at least a couple of different days during the holidays.

First of all, I will either be sure to go on the opening day of the holiday season or in the days just before it in November, because I will need to gather info for the Superthread and for the holiday podcast call-in show that I think I'm going to be asked to do. All of the "new" stuff is going to be a big topic, and it's good to stay on top of it.

But...opening day or weekend aside, the holiday season just isn't the full holiday season to me until December! If Disney would hurry up and give the details of how they are handling the Candlelight Processional (and if there will be a charge for AP holders to stand and view it), that would help me decide on whether or not I am going to make an attempt to see it, and on which date. I would like to see it, as I suspect that the CP will be lumped into a paid party next year and I may not want to do the party, but I have to wait and see.

I would love love love to head to DLR on Thanksgiving and have that wonderful giant buffet dinner at the DLH with Mariezp and her family. I have not done a traditional Thanksgiving dinner or had typical Thanksgiving food in probably decades (and those dinners were probably with people I had no interest in being with, so it kind of turned me off to Thanksgiving dinners!). Usually, I don't have the desire to celebrate Thanksgiving - Halloween and Christmas are much more my holidays! - but it would be a fun thing to do just once (and it would give me some extra information to report back to the Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread, for all those folks who ask about holiday dining. But...it will probably be too hard to get there and back.

Yes, "M" could have handled things differently all the way around at DLR. Not just as far as blowing me off for almost all the plans we had discussed, but everything.

The thing is, "M" did tell me that she would see me on X day(s) and that she would be with other people on her last day. She was up front about that. We discussed it all. The problem was that she changed the plan mid-way through and didn't communicate before the plans were about to change. Either that, or she was simply not honest with me to begin with, which is likely.

I, too, suspect that "M" had her plans in place before seeing me, and that she knew she would be seeing her friend "V" (who she said just "showed up"), but she just didn't tell me. What that did was inconvenience me. It was very selfish of her. I feel like she didn't want to tell me what was really happening because she was afraid that if she told me she had plans with "V" then I would make other plans (either by myself or with you and Molly). Then, if "V" backed out on her for some reason, she would have no friends there to show her around that day. So it's like she was keeping me on the back burner, just in case, but letting me think that she was spending time with me. That's an old M.O. of hers, by the way - keep someone hanging on until she gets a better offer.

It was downright rude to back out on me at the last minute - when she knew that I was probably waiting to meet up with her - and then not even be polite enough to invite me to join them. That was just cold and mean. I wouldn't be able to do that kind of thing without feeling guilty - just stand a friend up and/or blow them off at the last minute, and not even ask that person to join us if I was going to be in the same exact place where they were going to be! It wasn't as if I was in another city. We were both in the same park! And it's not like "M" and "V" were spending alone time that I would have been interrupting. They were all in a big group.

I think the whole thing was very weird, and very mean! I really cannot find any way to justify that behavior. I know this is why "M" has not said anything to me about it - she knows what she did; she knows it was messed up; she knows I am sick of her; she knows she has no real excuse. She has nothing to say that can make her look innocent or 'unaware' of what was happening. So, in her position, she probably feels it's better to stay silent than to bring it up and risk me unleashing on her!

Ah well...fortunately, I don't have to deal with "M's" antics again this year. Even if her return trip to DLR goes through, I will not be a part of it.


Thanks for the conclusion/aftermath update. I'm sorry this all happened but I agree with you - the frustration and conflict are no longer worth it. Sometimes ending a "friendship" is the healthiest thing to do. I suspect that if you just completely ignore her and any connection she may still have with your other friends - she will slowly drift away from them as well. She appears to me (not knowing her other than what you've said) to be a manipulative soul. Once she gets the drift that she can't "get" to you by continuing to interact with your friends those interactions will lose their appeal to her and she will show her true colors to them as well. Some people really get a charge out of upsetting others - I don't get it but they do. :confused3 Some people need to put others down to feel good about themselves - sad but true.

Stay positive and focus on the things you enjoy - you are valued here and by your true friends don't forget that and get caught up in her nonsense.

I truly hope you make it to DL this holiday season. The year of holidays plan sounds like a lot of fun!!

Enjoy your week!

Dawn -

Thank you for the kind words!

I think "M" genuinely wants to be friends with the mutual friends we have - even if they are better friends and closer with me. Mainly, she knows that I feel a certain way about her now, so she tries to go out of her way to be extra, extra nice to other people so that it will look like whatever I say about her to them is untrue. It's a bit of preemptive striking, I guess you might say. It's probably more calculated that she even realizes she is being.

Remember when "M" bought the coffee for Shawn at the Hearthstone Lounge? Notice that she didn't offer to treat me for coffee, but then she also flaked out on treating me to Goofy's Kitchen a short while after. To me, it seems that she did a 'nice' thing for Shawn right before doing a screwy thing to me...so that, by the time I got to Shawn to tell her what "M" had pulled, Shawn would already have the seed planted in her mind that "M" was generous and nice and had bought her a cup of coffee. In other words, it would lessen the impact of what "M" pulled on me.

So, I honestly think that she goes out of her way to be super-nice to our mutual friends, just so they won't believe me. It's not that she wouldn't pull the same stuff on them at some point, but she doesn't want them to think that what I tell them is true.

In any case, I have so many other things to worry about and deal with at this point. That issue is not at the top of my list, but it has been the subject of conversation here because the TR has been going on. Now I am trying to look ahead to other plans. That "M" fiasco has kind of been in the rear view window of my mind for a while, outside of this TR.

I love my Year of Holidays idea - although I may have to postpone it until next year. I don't know that I can start it this year. I have to have a better, more reliable, plan in place of getting to and from DLR. However, you can bet that, whether or not I make it to Halloween Time this year, I will not miss the holiday season! I may not be able to do a multi-night hotel stay, but I will still be there!



Great wrap up! Now I'm channeling Judy Garland and my favorite Christmas song. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas....

As for your assessment of 'mean girl M' you are not alone. Personally I would unfriend her so fast on FB my mouse would be smokin'. Aslo, if she had treated one of my personal friends so poorly I would also unfriend her. I agree that friends not calling other friends on deplorable behavior does enable that behavior. Cherish your past memories of "M" and move on unhampered by reminders that some people to not improve with age...

Also - really bizzare that some stranger would bunk with M, her husband, son, and father. Seriously??

Hope your Halloween and Christmas trips pan out. Keeping my fingers crossed!

TK

Thank you, TK!

"Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" really has one of the most beautiful melodies of all the holiday songs! It's not only a pretty tune, but it also kind of evokes a certain warm, fuzzy feeling. It's a classic song, but it's a song with a heart as well. I think that's part of the reason why I really love a lot of Christmas songs, aside from the fact that they just remind me of Christmas - many of them have very lovely (or catchy) melodies and lyrics, which is what I like about any kind of song, whether it's a holiday song or a rock song!

I'm glad that someone agrees with me about how it is enabling when other people/friends don't speak up and say something when "M" acts badly!

Facebook is a place where it is very easy to ignore other people's posts. All one has to do is simply not comment or 'like' anything. No effort is required. When everyone suddenly began 'liking' and commenting on some of "M's" posts - even more than they used to pre-December - it was very clear to me what happened. "M" got to them behind the scenes. She probably wrote something to them or said something that somehow made them feel bad, and they suddenly felt guilty about ignoring her. Who knows if that means they don't believe me about what happened...but the key thing is that they don't seem to mind that it makes me feel bad that they are suddenly chummy with "M."

I don't think I would be able to get to the bottom of what happened behind the scenes until/unless I actually saw Jackie/Shawn in person and could ask directly. There is too much uncertainty in cyberspace!

I am starting to get to the point where that - even though I would really love to get to DLR for a few hours to take some Halloween photos - it doesn't sound like I will be missing anything that I can't bear to skip for one year IF I can't get there.

In other words, there are no really big "new" things to see. The Carnival/Jamboree thing is basically the same ol' Round-Up/Ranch area with a new name and some extra tents - and characters that used to be on Main Street and in Fantasyland. It's like Disney just took 3 different areas of the Halloween highlights in DL - the Villains photo spot, the Town Square characters and the Round-Up - and consolidated them into one single location, all the while making the Villains less available and more exclusive to the actual party.

But the holiday season is always a must-do!


And so it comes to an end.

I so enjoyed this Trip Report and will miss the updates. I enjoyed your "keeping it real" overview of the events, all the Christmas music (my Pandora Christmas station is on as I read/type), etc. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into your sharing. I hope that "getting it all down" has helped you in some way.

I am not surprised by how things are between you and M today. I figured there was no way things could go back to how they were before... pre-walking-past-you-and-ignoring-you. (I still can't get over that. If you were V, and saw your friend M treat a longtime friend in such a horrible way, wouldn't that put up a red flag?)

I'm curious about any behind the scenes communication Jackie, Shawn, etc. might have had with M. If they ignored her in the beginning, and with time just "got over it" -- or if there was more to it.

I'm sorry your plans are so up in the air. I noticed yesterday that most of the parties were sold out. Ugh. I thought it was too crowded the last time I went to a party and I don't think it was sold out then.

That would be great if you could pull off the Year of the Holidays. And start a blog. :) Remember Sherri (can't remember the correct spelling) from Montana? She was going to do that travel blog and get paid? It would be great if your excellent writing skills combined with your photos could be a source of income for you. pixiedust:

:hug:

Thanks, deej, for hanging in there all this time, and for all the support!

Speaking of which...will you be doing a TR after your Halloween Time adventure with the family? At this rate, I'm not sure when or if I will be getting to DLR for Halloween Time this year. It doesn't sound like I'll be missing too much, though, if I don't go. Just in case I don't get there, I am counting on you to get some interesting photos of little Halloween details or photos taken from other vantage points that the typical DLR visitor may overlook.

I will be curious to see what you come up with from Cars Land/Buena Vista Street - will you find some hidden gems that the rest of us totally overlooked? I'd bet that you do - Cars Land is so chock full o' details and things that I'm sure you will find something that we all missed.

If you can break away from the menfolk for a minute, be sure to pop into Pixie Hollow - at least the first section of it near the entrance, before you actually reach the fairies' photo spots - to get a few pictures of the pretty flowers and fountains, etc. I think you'd enjoy it!

I thought the same thing - I"m not sure how "V" could go on thinking "M" was a wonderful person after watching her walk past me without a word, but she was gushing about rainbows to her after the trip ended, and she is always 'liking' what "M" posts on Facebook. So I assume that "M" spun the whole ordeal in such a way that made it seem as if she did nothing wrong. That's what I would expect, though. And I would expect that "V" would believe her because she doesn't know me, and because she probably does not know "M" well/closely enough to actually have witnessed some of the antics first-hand.

You know, the funny thing about "getting it all down" is that the whole event happened such a long time ago - well, I guess it is not really that long of a time, and yet it is a long time - and I have had so many other things on my mind this year that had nothing to do with "M." Ironically, the process of doing the TR probably just kept the fiasco alive in my mind whereas it would have faded into the mist if I hadn't done the TR. So the TR may have had a counter-intuitive effect! Also, I would be in a totally different head space about it if not for the fact that I sign into Facebook and see my friends interacting with "M" and it reminds me!

Do you ever watch those "Real Housewives" shows on Bravo (any city)? I watch most of them them (a guilty pleasure, for sure - those shows are so wrong, and yet so right!). What they usually do is film their seasons, run those shows the following year and then tape their reunion specials months and months (or even a full year) after they've wrapped filming of the season. For example, the New Jersey "Real Housewives" cast wrapped up their filming over a year ago, and the season they filmed aired on Bravo this year. They just taped the reunion special for that season a couple of months ago, and they were expected to dredge up/discuss/argue about all the drama and madness that had taken place a year ago, even though, chances are, many of the ladies had already moved past all of it in their minds.

The reason why I bring that example up is because it's kind of the same thing here. Even though I am not under contract or obligation to chat about the December fiasco (unlike the Housewives on Bravo, who are under contract to dredge up their pain!), the mere act of doing the TR kept it in the forefront a bit, while I had kind of moved on in my mind!

But...I do TR's - or at least photo reports - for all of my trips, whether they are day trips or weekend trips; whether there are stories to go with them or not, or whatever. So I was just doing what I would normally be doing anyway - a trip report. It just so happens that there were so many things that stood in the way of getting this TR done in a timely fashion that it had to be postponed and delayed much longer than my normal TR's would be delayed, so it seemed like I was just hanging on and hanging on to the December mess.

In any case, December 2011 is history now and I am glad to be done with the TR!!! I don't want to have to discuss it or put any further thought into it after this post!

Of course I remember Sherri and her travel blog/articles. She was asked to do them. I think that her community might be a little smaller and more close-knit & friendly, unlike mine in Los Angeles. I doubt that anyone in this specific area would ask me to blog about anything, because there are 50,000 bloggers all over the place. So I would have to seek it out and pursue it, and I'm not sure where I would go for paid blogging. I don't have the time to really just do it for free. I would do it for a purpose - like a travel-oriented blog. If I were being paid, that's a different story - I would make the time, for sure!

In any case, thank you for the compliment! I appreciate it. I agree - any way I could somehow parlay my writing skills and my love of picture-taking into a source of income (especially if I could write about things I know and love) would be ideal. I think that after you get to a certain age and it's hard to find work, rather than trying to compete with the young 'uns for jobs that you may or may not be good at or know much about, it's best to hone in on what you are good at and turn it into something that pays off.



Feel better!

TK - I thought I was going to pass out when I saw that my entire "Aftermath" post had been hit by the punctuation bandit. It took me so much time to keep trying to fix it (even when it didn't want to save), especially when I had to go through the entire post, line by line, and add everything back in. I'm still certain that I didn't catch all of the areas where my punctuation was messed with. I tried to catch as many spots as I could, but my head was hurting at some point and I had to give up!

There were things in there such as:

"Merry Christmas to all&
and to all a good night!"

or

"&And I was planning on"


Basically, anywhere I had put in ellipses, commas, hyphens or quotes had gone haywire and suddenly been replaced by ampersands, or just vanished.


Darn technology! I just know it was caused by some sort of blip or hiccup in the server.





Should auld acquaintance be forgot? Yup.;)

Only you can decide if un-friending M is the right move. If seeing your other friends interact with her needles you, change some settings to block most things from her. You were the bigger person; she won't change; don't let it corrode your feelings for your other friends by wondering what their relationship with her is based on. Some people on FB seem to like, comment, friend with greater deliberation than others. Or in spurts based on their mood or time available. I wouldn't give M more thought than she's currently worth.

I'm sorry your plans for holiday trips are falling through. Yet another failure of the LA-area public transportation system for someone who doesn't drive. Could you get to the airport and take a Disney airport/hotel shuttle like a non-local? I'm sure you've already thought this through 100 ways and would prefer to go with others too. Going ON a holiday would make that even more challenging.

I'm glad your 10-month odyssey to write this has finally wrapped. I know you have a lot going on with the Halloween and Christmas threads. Thanks for seeing it through. :thumbsup2

PHXscuba


PHX -

You know, it's not that "M's" posts on Facebook alone are bothering me. I can ignore those and I tend to miss a lot of them because I don't sign onto FB every day. I have a couple of my friends categorized/marked as "close friends" on Facebook so that I can catch all of their posts and not miss anything, which means that I automatically see their comments whenever they say something to "M," too. I don't want to ignore their stuff because of her, and yet I don't necessarily want to see them laughing it up with her either!

You said,
"...already thought this through 100 ways and would prefer to go with others too. Going ON a holiday would make that even more challenging."

Yep!^^ Yep, to all of the above - I've thought it all through 100 ways (many times) and tried to come up with the best solutions based on the times of day/night I would be going to DLR, the days of week, whether they would be single days or multiple days, etc. Any way I've sorted it out, ultimately I wasn't comfortable with some scenario or another that would have me traveling via 2 or 3 different means of transportation over the course of at least a couple of hours (each way) to get to/from Anaheim, and inevitably standing by myself at a train station, bus stop or wherever in the middle of the night, or at least after dark. To me it would not be worth it to spend 2+ hours to get down to Anaheim if I had to turn around and come home before it got dark.

Nothing ever seemed to really make much sense, any way I sorted it out. If I am traveling/getting to DLR before sunrise (which is what I like to do), I'm most comfortable with leaving directly from my front door and heading straight to DLR without transferring and waiting and switching and all of that.

I have absolutely no problem going to DLR by myself if I am 'on a mission' to accomplish something - except if it's at a time of day/night when I don't feel too safe! And I would feel a bit odd trick-or-treating at the Halloween party alone! Other than that, I get many more photos taken when I am by myself. I cannot focus on pictures when people are around me.

The best scenario for my 'mission trips' would be to find someone (somewhere) who has an AP, doesn't mind going to DLR on certain dates, splitting up and going solo for a few hours, and then reconvening later to hang out with that person for the rest of the day (if that's what they prefer).

Now if I am doing 'friend trips,' those are different stories and could/would work differently.

Yes - going on an actual major holiday such as Thanksgiving-Christmas-New Year's would be extremely challenging!

Thanks, PHX, for sticking with me to the bitter end here, and waiting for the very last post!


This just made my day! :rotfl: Good advise on changing the settings on FB.

TK -

I put that specific Auld Lang Syne lyric in the "Aftermath" post for a reason! I was very deliberate with all the lyrics I chose in that final post, right down the very end!:rotfl2:



A nice wrap up to your trip report. Thank you once again Sherry for taking the time to write up your trip reports.

Just like what everyone have posted that "M" is not that type of person to be a friend where she have treated you during your trip. Using you in a lot of ways during the trip is not a friend. As you have said about walking past you in DCA and not even saying hello is just awful.

I knew that MHP is getting so popular these last few years at DL and it was eventually going to be sold out on the party night. I never imagine that MHP would be sold out the last two years during the slow days but just shows us that it can change. Good thing that I bought my MNSSHP tickets to WDW later this month.

I will be looking forward that you will be able to go back on the podcast and talk about the Holiday season at the DLR. Hope that you will be able to be their the first day of the Holiday season or the first weekend which will be 16-18 which I will be there as you already know.

Hope you feel better.

Bret -

Thank you, too, for hanging in here and sticking it out until I got this TR finished! I appreciate it.

If I am not at DLR on 11/12, I will try to be there on one of the weekend days before 11/12, like 11/10 or 11/11. I'm pretty sure that the Cars Land decorations will be up before 11/12, but there may be certain things that don't begin until 11/12 and I don't know if I want to take my chances on missing those. It's going to be super-crowded that weekend because of Veterans Day.

I am guessing that the podcast/Unplugged team will be there that weekend, so chances are they will do a show by the middle of the week to discuss the holidays and the new DCA decorations, treats, etc. They already mentioned that they would ask me back for a call-in holiday show, so it would help if I am up to date on the new stuff!

I'm looking forward to your WDW Halloween TR! I think it will be a nice change of pace from DLR. Because I have never been to WDW, all the photos (whenever I see some that have been posted) are new to me, and it's a whole different experience. Some things at WDW look very similar to what's at DLR, and some things are totally different. It's like a foreign land to me. Seeing all the different ways in which their Halloween season is different (or the same) from ours will be fascinating, just as seeing all the holiday photos from WDW is always fascinating!




:dancer::dancer::dancer:


Anyway, folks, thank you all again for following along on this journey (debacle!) from December.:grouphug: Onward and upward, right? Time to move on from this particular trip once and for all, and head towards bigger and better things!

I will definitely keep this thread updated if I make a sudden Halloween trip, or when I get the first of my Christmas/holiday plans in order (both of which would have to happen very soon, since it is already October 10th!), or if any other Disneyland-related plans come together. I still have enough pages left in this thread to crank out another TR, and I am sticking with this thread until we get to page 250 and it has to be closed!!
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Sigh. Well, you know my thoughts.


I am going to go WAY off topic. I finally watched Rock of Ages. Sherri, you want to watch it. Do not think of Stacy Jaxx or however they spell it as Tom Cruise. I got a big kick out of it. It isn't great drama or comedy but it is entertaining especially if you remember those days like I do and I know you do.
 
I just caught up on the end of your ordeal. :grouphug: You're way too nice to M. I would have had a knock down, drag out, verbal hullabaloo and let Everybody know exactly what kind of manipulative, lying, fake, "not-a-friend" she really was. :furious: I hope that after all of that, you're not letting her Facebook antics get you down. The best revenge is a life well lived - with lots of photo filled holiday trips to DL in the future! :flower3:
 
:rotfl2: So much for the big "Storm Track" and "Storm Watch" predictions and snazzy storm graphics on the news.

Autumn just refuses to settle in around here! It teases us; it tempts us; it appears for a fleeting moment and then vanishes into the night! Summer is like the guest at a party who doesn't want to leave...Summer doesn't realize that the party is over and that it's time to go home.

The weather people on the news, of course, made such a big deal about the rain coming, and I guess it did rain in some places today (maybe it will rain a little more) but it was over in about a minute here where I live. I've had the window open all day (it was a wonderful, crisp, brisk, chilly morning right around sunrise and just a bit after that - I loved it!), and there was one loud thunder clap...and then maybe a few drops of rain. And then nothing!:rotfl2:

Don't get me wrong - there have been lots of occasions in past years when we Angelenos got pummeled with rain and the ground got saturated; flooding and mudslides wreaked havoc; roofs caved in, cars spun out, etc. But today's big "storm" event was a bit of a dud.

And next week - around Tuesday or Wednesday or so - it is supposed to be back at 89 degrees!:confused3 No wonder so many people are getting sick - their bodies can't acclimate to the seasons when the temperatures are not staying consistent. Everyone's immune systems are probably working overtime, trying to cope! One week it's in the 100+ degree range. Then it's in the 80's, and down to the 70's. Today is supposed to be 68 degrees or so, but it will be back to almost 90 in several days.

However - and anyone out there lurking who has lived in California will know what this means - we are expected to meet up with our old friend "El Nino" again this year. I can't give a precise meteorological breakdown of what El Nino is and why it packs such a mighty punch in California when it blows into town every few years, but let's just say that El Nino means lots and lots and lots of rain that California - especially Southern California - is ill-prepared to handle.

Because we don't get heavy rain or even constant mild rain for long periods of time in SoCal, when a big storm finally comes around it causes mayhem. (Those of us who live in old, rickety structures know the fun of having leaks coming through the ceiling that cannot be repaired right away, as they originate from somewhere on the roof - and the repair guy can't get out to fix the roof until the rain actually stops, which may not be for weeks! Oh, the joy!)

I've seen some pretty nasty El Nino seasons out here. We haven't had a bad one in a while (late 2004 was particularly harsh), but supposedly this year is the year for El Nino to return and bring lots of rain.

So, I may chuckle now at the news stations' hype about even the most insignificant raindrops, and I may curse the Summer for overstaying its welcome, but if December-January-February come around and you see/hear me wishing for Summer to come back...you'll know why! The wrath of El Nino will be upon us!:rotfl2::rotfl2:

Anyway, I just watched "Halloween Crazier" on the Travel Channel the other night (they had a whole segment about the new Newport Beach, CA haunted cruise, and the Manhattan Beach, CA pumpkin races!). Another new show called "Halloween Tricked Out" is on HGTV tomorrow night. And there are others - "Scariest Halloween Attractions," "The Most Terrifying Places in America," "Halloween Crazy," "Halloween to the Extreme," "Halloween Wars," etc. Great shows, all of them!

Right after those are over comes the Hallmark Channel Christmas marathons every weekend, and then it will be an increasing wave of holiday TV for me!!

Now, to reply!

Sigh. Well, you know my thoughts.


I am going to go WAY off topic. I finally watched Rock of Ages. Sherri, you want to watch it. Do not think of Stacy Jaxx or however they spell it as Tom Cruise. I got a big kick out of it. It isn't great drama or comedy but it is entertaining especially if you remember those days like I do and I know you do.

Michele -

You know, I'll probably watch "Rock of Ages" when it gets to cable. I'll give it a chance then. Even though it seems like I should be all over the premise of the movie because of the time frame and setting it covers, I think it probably hits too close to home for me and my opinion would be skewed.

I think that the movie would be a sanitized, polished-up-for-Hollywood version of how things actually were. I think I feel this way because I was there during that time, experiencing it all - I was on the Sunset Strip, at the Whisky, at the Troubador, in the crowds, at the parties, at the concerts/shows, hanging out with the people, at the "Rock & Roll Denny's" eating Grand Slam breakfasts late at night, going to the Bon Jovi video shoot at the Olympic Auditorium, picking up the Poison guys at the airport when they got back from their very first trip to Japan and taking them home, etc. (I'm not bragging - just stating facts and events that I actually experienced in the same setting and during the same time frame that "Rock of Ages" spans - believe me, there's a lot of it I would like to forget!!)

Because I had my own experiences with that time in the '80s, I can't imagine that any movie would evoke the same kind of vibe that was actually present. Also - and this may be surprising - because some of the memories I have of the '80s on the Strip are not all that great, I kind of don't really want to be reminded too much of that whole period by watching the movie. I try to only think of the Sunset Strip scene in the '80s in bits and pieces here and there, and then I block it out for a while!:rotfl2:

And the memories that are great for me will probably just make me sad or melancholy because I know those times will likely never happen again.

So, for me, personally, watching a movie like "Rock of Ages" is not just simple entertainment - there is a lot more involved in it, emotionally, because it conjures up a lot of 'stuff.'

But I like Julianne Hough. I love Bryan Cranston (fantastic actor!). Alec Baldwin is always good. And I am endlessly fascinated by watching Tom Cruise! He is a good actor - but whether his movies are good or bad, because he is so wacky in real life I can't take my eyes off of him! I am always wondering what crazy things he is up to behind the scenes, and who his next wife will be.

So I will wait until the movie gets to cable and watch it then. I don't think it was packaged or marketed very well - it looked incredibly cheesy in the promos. I am assuming it is a better film than how it was portrayed in the ads.



I just caught up on the end of your ordeal. :grouphug: You're way too nice to M. I would have had a knock down, drag out, verbal hullabaloo and let Everybody know exactly what kind of manipulative, lying, fake, "not-a-friend" she really was. :furious: I hope that after all of that, you're not letting her Facebook antics get you down. The best revenge is a life well lived - with lots of photo filled holiday trips to DL in the future! :flower3:


Chereya -

Well, at least I ended the trip at Goofy's (with Aggressive Pluto), so it wasn't all bad!

You know, I don't know if I was being nice to "M" or just sparing myself any extra stress. I knew it would have done no good to confront her - she would only ignore me, deny everything, play dumb or pretend she had no clue of what she had said, etc. And her reaction or non-reaction would have only made me angrier and more frustrated with her, I think.

I did tell my friends what happened in e-mails right after I got back from the DLR trip, and they all seemed rightfully horrified and angry on my behalf. They all said quite a few things about "M's" behavior and what they thought of it. This is why it is so odd to now sign on to Facebook and see them 'liking' various posts of hers or commenting on them like there is no issue. That's how I know she must have gotten to them behind the scenes, and they ended up feeling guilty for ignoring her early this year. But I don't think they realize that it comes across to me as though they don't 'have my back.'

Oh well...what can you do? The whole trip is over and I don't have to do it again. Yes, I will be hurt if everyone (my friends) ends up going off to meet "M" and hang out with her if she comes into town again this year, but what can I do? I can't control it.

However, I find myself signing onto Facebook less and less these days - mainly because my stupid PC acts up on Facebook, but also because it just makes me feel weird to be there. Normally I would be changing my Timeline cover for Halloween every few days, but I just haven't.

You mentioned photo-filled holiday trips - I'll tell you, I am itching to get back out and take some photos! I wish that my particular neighborhood had some great Fall-colored leaves or trees that I could photograph, just as we have the gorgeous Spring flowers earlier in the year. Unfortunately, the Fall leaves are not as pretty out here as they are in other states. Sure, they plummet to the ground and collect in piles, but they just look dead and brown. If I am lucky enough to see random trees with bright yellow or orange leaves, it is one lone tree per street, or it is hard to access!:rotfl2:

I see all these wonderful photos of pastoral lanes with towering trees just bursting with Autumn colors and I realize there is nothing like that here in L.A.! I love L.A. for many reasons, but I'd have to leave the city for those sorts of trees - but maybe they have them up in NorCal.


Thank you, Chereya, for sticking with me through the Cars Land DLR trip in June and through the December holiday fiasco! Thank you, too, for all the kind words of encouragement and support, compliments on my writing, etc. I really appreciate it and it means a lot!

I am not sure if I will end up at DLR for a day during Halloween Time, or just skip it and aim for the holiday season start date of 11/12 - but one way or the other, there will be another onslaught of photos soon! If I am unable to take a bunch of Halloween Time photos, then I will take many holiday photos (especially of Cars Land's decorations and Buena Vista Street's decorations).
 
Sherry, it is incredibly cheesy! It kind of reminded me on a long Glee episode in so many ways. That being said I still loved it. I didn't think it would be anything like the "real" thing, but it was entertaining.
 
I was happy to see when I popped on today that you finished the trip report.
Now, you can focus on getting back this year to create wonderful memories
to replace last year's situation.

Sorry you were sick for so long, especially during the type of weather you
enjoy the most. Hopefully, things will be different this winter.

I agree with you, life is too hard without toxic people in it. You can only
change your action or reaction to them, and hope, that would be enough to
warrant a change in them. Everyone has had to deal with these type of people,
some more than others. It doesn't make the pain any less, but, you are not
alone in dealing with these type of people. ((Big hugs))

I am not surprised M was in the park with her other 'friends'. I guess she has
hit her midlife crisis and is acting like a mean girl with her new friends.
Shame on her. True friends are so hard to find. After all these years, she should
have told you what her plans were so you could enjoy your time and Dis friends.
It seemed she didn't want you to do any of that. I get upset just thinking about
the whole mess. You will get an awesome do-over. I can feel it.

That was nice of you to share your pics. It made M's dad happy. He knows his
daughter was in the wrong, and it probably embarrassed him.

With M sending a request to a male friend out of the blue sends up red flags.
To me, it seems she has it out for you and she is working all the angles to
make your life miserable. She may be doing the diverting thing just to show you
she still can do it. She might be miserable in her marriage. It seems you have
a target on yourself and M is aiming at you every chance she can get.

Your other friends are ignoring the incedent in December so they can keep the
status quo. It isn't right. They want things back to the way it was and will
just 'forget' what happened, especially since it didn't happen to them. Again,
not right. To me, people are too afraid to state their opinion and truth in fear of some
people not liking them. I tell it how it is because I expect people to do the same.

I don't do Facebook, so I can only imagine how frustrating and disappointing to
see/read stuff your "friend M" posted, and see other friends, who should be
talking to M on how poorly she treated you, is instead, liking stuff she has
put up. (I hope I said that right).
Anyhoo, the more distance you put between you and her, will be better for you.


Sherry, I think there are at least a dozen people here on the boards (me included)
who would be honored to be considered one of your friends. I know when I ever get
back to DL, I hope I will run in to you and a few others here on the boards.

It would be such a loss to the boards if you could not be able to go to DL and
stroll around with your camera taking all those beautiful shots, and then posting
them with the well written descriptions. It really helps those of us who have
not been able for one reason or another to make it back. I am toying with the
idea of going for my 30th wedding anniversary (12/31/13). Lord knows if we will,
but it is fun planning and imagining. Your posts with pics really inspires.

I know you will get there again. Maybe you can go for a couple of days before
your pass expires. I am pulling for you!

Thanks for sharing this, and all the other trips with us. :thumbsup2
ps sorry this is so winded. I am a talker.:lmao:
 
Thanks, deej, for hanging in there all this time, and for all the support!

Speaking of which...will you be doing a TR after your Halloween Time adventure with the family? At this rate, I'm not sure when or if I will be getting to DLR for Halloween Time this year. It doesn't sound like I'll be missing too much, though, if I don't go. Just in case I don't get there, I am counting on you to get some interesting photos of little Halloween details or photos taken from other vantage points that the typical DLR visitor may overlook.

I am sure hoping to do a TR. With life being busier in general these days, and then coming home as the holiday season kicks off which makes things even busier, I am hoping I can still pull off a TR. I may have to give up my desire to have the TR completed within a month of being home. Taking that pressure off will help, I'm sure.


You know, the funny thing about "getting it all down" is that the whole event happened such a long time ago - well, I guess it is not really that long of a time, and yet it is a long time - and I have had so many other things on my mind this year that had nothing to do with "M." Ironically, the process of doing the TR probably just kept the fiasco alive in my mind whereas it would have faded into the mist if I hadn't done the TR. So the TR may have had a counter-intuitive effect! Also, I would be in a totally different head space about it if not for the fact that I sign into Facebook and see my friends interacting with "M" and it reminds me!

I understand this completely...the TR keeping things more alive in your mind! Haven't see the "Real Housewives" shows but that analogy makes a lot of sense.

I had more I wanted to reply to but I have a headache and I can't take looking at this screen any longer! :headache:
 
Good morning and Happy Friday, all!

It will be a pleasant 72 degrees today, but will be 92 - yes, 92 - degrees in several days!:headache::furious:

Oh, Autumn...we hardly knew ye.

Here are some things I wanted to mention:

1. I am still trying to figure out if, how or when I am doing any kind of Halloween trip to DLR, but there is a little Halloween/harvest/pumpkin festival of sorts at the Farmers Market next weekend (and a separate pumpkin giveaway this weekend), and I think I'm going to go check it out. I am trying to get more 'in the spirit' (no pun intended) of the season and do some Halloween-ish things. Farmers Market (which is minutes away from where I live) has been having this Fall event for a long time, but for some reason I have never gone to it. It may not be much, but it's a small dose of the Halloween season that I feel I need! I'll take my camera with me, just in case there is anything fun to take photos of;



2. I'm very happy to see that Bret Michaels is doing another season of "Celebrity Apprentice," which will air in March. He, of course, did the show 2 years ago and won it (:banana:), as he was recovering from a brain hemorrhage and other health crises. (A while after the show wrapped he had heart surgery.) He is the only returning winner on this upcoming "All-Stars" season, but I am so happy to see that he is thriving and not sick again;



3. I am annoyed at the increasing rumors that the reindeer will not be at the Round-Up for this year's holiday season at DLR. Now that the Round-Up is being called "Santa's Holly Jolly Jamboree," the reindeer are being sent back to the North Pole, or so it seems (nothing is official or confirmed yet; it's all only rumors thus far). I think this is a bad idea if it happens, but it totally does not shock me because it is Disney's M.O. to add in new things and take other things away from their seasonal decor. I'm not sure why that happens - is it a money issue or a labor issue (like maybe they can't get enough manpower to work on all the things that need to be set up)? So if they add in Cars Land and Buena Vista Street decorations, then the reindeer will probably disappear, and something else will probably disappear too. (The Disney Parks Blog never did post my comment/question about the New Orleans Square and Toon Town decorations. Hmmm...);



4. I am thrilled that "Love Actually" is on HBO today. I have mentioned this film before as being one of my favorite holiday movies, and one of my favorite movies, period. It's really not a movie about Christmas, necessarily, but it's set against the backdrop of the holiday season in London. It could really serve as a Valentine's Day film, too - and yet, for some odd reason it is now airing during Halloween season!:rotfl2: But I won't complain because it's a great movie - it's very funny (but in a subtle way and not really in an uproarious way), charming, smart, touching, and it explores all kinds of love between friends, co-workers, married couples and otherwise. The writing is brilliant. There are little bits of Christmas thrown in here and there. The acting is wonderful. There are so many great scenes, but one of the best and most touching scenes involves Keira Knightley and Andrew Lincoln (who is best known as Rick on "The Walking Dead").

(Side note: If I ever venture anywhere for the holidays that does not involve a Disney park of some kind, I would want to either go to New York City, Leavenworth, WA [where the entire town turns into a Christmas wonderland] or London! Those charming Christmas markets that are so popular in European countries are calling my name!);



5. Yesterday I saw my very first Christmas commercial of the year on TV!!:banana::banana::santa::santa: It was an ad for Target. At first I was chuckling when I saw it because I was thinking, "It's October 11th and there's a Christmas commercial on TV!"

...And then I realized that I sounded like one of the people who hates seeing Christmas stuff on TV or in stores any time before Thanksgiving when, in actuality, I LOVE seeing Christmas stuff early, just as I love seeing Halloween things pop up in August!! If Halloween can appear in August, then Christmas can appear in October! If Christmas stuff has to wait until Thanksgiving to appear, then the Halloween stuff had better not hit the shelves or the TV until late September! (Then again, I'm a crazy person who probably wouldn't mind a world in which jack-o-lanterns and Christmas trees can co-exist and sit side by side happily from late September through early January...and they can even invite their friend, the Easter Bunny, to join them!:rotfl2:)

So now I am hoping I catch the Target Christmas ad again so I can appreciate it more!:rotfl2: The Disneyland Resort Holiday ads should begin running in just under one month; and



6. There's going to be an ice skating rink and holiday village in Downtown Disney this year! See the Dsney Parks Blog piece: http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...-ice-skating-at-the-downtown-disney-district/. Yahoo!! :banana: More Christmasy things to enjoy! Yay!:yay:


On to some replies...




Sherry, it is incredibly cheesy! It kind of reminded me on a long Glee episode in so many ways. That being said I still loved it. I didn't think it would be anything like the "real" thing, but it was entertaining.

Michele -

Yeah, for some reason the ads for "Rock of Ages" did nothing to intrigue me to want to see it at all. They just brought out the cheesiness! But I've heard several people say that it is a lot of fun and that they enjoyed it, despite knowing that it was silly. So I will give it a shot when it hits cable next year.



I was happy to see when I popped on today that you finished the trip report.
Now, you can focus on getting back this year to create wonderful memories
to replace last year's situation.

Sorry you were sick for so long, especially during the type of weather you
enjoy the most. Hopefully, things will be different this winter.

I agree with you, life is too hard without toxic people in it. You can only
change your action or reaction to them, and hope, that would be enough to
warrant a change in them. Everyone has had to deal with these type of people,
some more than others. It doesn't make the pain any less, but, you are not
alone in dealing with these type of people. ((Big hugs))

I am not surprised M was in the park with her other 'friends'. I guess she has
hit her midlife crisis and is acting like a mean girl with her new friends.
Shame on her. True friends are so hard to find. After all these years, she should
have told you what her plans were so you could enjoy your time and Dis friends.
It seemed she didn't want you to do any of that. I get upset just thinking about
the whole mess. You will get an awesome do-over. I can feel it.

That was nice of you to share your pics. It made M's dad happy. He knows his
daughter was in the wrong, and it probably embarrassed him.

With M sending a request to a male friend out of the blue sends up red flags.
To me, it seems she has it out for you and she is working all the angles to
make your life miserable. She may be doing the diverting thing just to show you
she still can do it. She might be miserable in her marriage. It seems you have
a target on yourself and M is aiming at you every chance she can get.

Your other friends are ignoring the incedent in December so they can keep the
status quo. It isn't right. They want things back to the way it was and will
just 'forget' what happened, especially since it didn't happen to them. Again,
not right. To me, people are too afraid to state their opinion and truth in fear of some
people not liking them. I tell it how it is because I expect people to do the same.

I don't do Facebook, so I can only imagine how frustrating and disappointing to
see/read stuff your "friend M" posted, and see other friends, who should be
talking to M on how poorly she treated you, is instead, liking stuff she has
put up. (I hope I said that right).
Anyhoo, the more distance you put between you and her, will be better for you.


Sherry, I think there are at least a dozen people here on the boards (me included)
who would be honored to be considered one of your friends. I know when I ever get
back to DL, I hope I will run in to you and a few others here on the boards.

It would be such a loss to the boards if you could not be able to go to DL and
stroll around with your camera taking all those beautiful shots, and then posting
them with the well written descriptions. It really helps those of us who have
not been able for one reason or another to make it back. I am toying with the
idea of going for my 30th wedding anniversary (12/31/13). Lord knows if we will,
but it is fun planning and imagining. Your posts with pics really inspires.

I know you will get there again. Maybe you can go for a couple of days before
your pass expires. I am pulling for you!

Thanks for sharing this, and all the other trips with us. :thumbsup2
ps sorry this is so winded. I am a talker.:lmao:

Linda -

Thank you so, so much for taking the time to write and say such kind, supportive things! I wasn't thinking at all that what you wrote was "winded" (I write a lot, obviously, so I wouldn't be one to complain!) - that didn't even occur to me. Instead I was thinking how nice it was for you to take time out of your day to read my "Aftermath" post and comment on many things from it. It shows me that you read what I wrote - which is nice for anyone who writes these things to know! It means a lot.

I think that your observations and comments about everything (what may be going on in my friends' minds now that the whole fiasco is in the past, etc.) are pretty spot-on. I think you have a good sense of what is probably going on beneath the surface and behind the scenes. As I've hinted in the past, there are all kinds of crazy things I could tell you guys about that happened over the years, which would have you all wondering why I stayed in contact with "M" at all. All I can say is, 10 years passed. I gave it a shot, in hopes that things would be better. They weren't better.

You mentioned that you're not on Facebook. It is interesting how social media and modern technology played such a role in this trip, isn't it? In the old, old simple days of DL trips, there were no text messages. There was no Facebook. We didn't even have phones to call each other in the parks. We either had to just arrange a time to meet up, or stay together. On this December trip, not only did text messages figure prominently into things, but so did phone calls back and forth. Of course, because I checked Facebook from my cell phone while sitting in DCA, that was how I saw that "B" had posted an update about being at Soarin' with "V" and everyone else!

In a way, having all of this immediate access to information and people is very helpful - especially when a friend blows you off and you want more information about why it is happening - but at the same time, sometimes I think it's not such a great thing.:rotfl2:

Again - thank you so much for all of the really complimentary, sweet, kind-hearted comments about my writing, my photos, me as a person, etc. I really, really appreciate all of them - and I am certain that I'm undeserving of much of it.

The AP expires after 11/13, so I will be there for the start of the holiday season, no matter what. That will be more of a 'mission trip,' though - that probably will not be a 'friend trip.' It will be a photo-taking, fact-gathering mission. The 'friend trip' would be more likely to happen in December, and I will have to either have a Hopper or a new AP by that time for it to happen. If I decide to start the Year of Holidays idea, it may have to be in 2013.

I don't think I will be able to pull off a hotel stay this year, unless I finally decide to stay offsite - which I really don't want to do. My Christmas time trips are just not the same if I can't start the day by walking through the lobby of the PPH and seeing the gorgeous tree. But...we'll see. My real do-over trip may have to happen another year.




I am sure hoping to do a TR. With life being busier in general these days, and then coming home as the holiday season kicks off which makes things even busier, I am hoping I can still pull off a TR. I may have to give up my desire to have the TR completed within a month of being home. Taking that pressure off will help, I'm sure.

I understand this completely...the TR keeping things more alive in your mind! Haven't see the "Real Housewives" shows but that analogy makes a lot of sense.

I had more I wanted to reply to but I have a headache and I can't take looking at this screen any longer! :headache:

deej -

Oh dear! Was the glare of the screen affecting the headache, like in a migraine-y way? I hate headaches. I get more sinus headaches than anything else, but I get occasional migraines or heat-induced headches and those are just not fun.

I commented over in your TR, but I will add here that it's perfectly fine and understandable if you can't get a TR finished in 30 days. You have a life, after all. You can't hang out on the DIS all day long!

As you've witnessed recently, if you have a good core group of followers who will stick with you, those people will still be there through the whole journey, whether it takes 2 weeks or one month...or 10 months (who? Me?:confused3)...to finish the TR!;)
 
I've mentioned in the past that I do a variety of surveys and participate in product testing and studies for assorted places to make little bits of money here and there (which can either go towards bills or Disney gift cards, etc.). It's a good way to scrape up some pocket change here and there to put in the Disney trip fund.

In fact, this year has been a product testing bonanza for me - I think I've tested more products this year than ever before, and not just all for one company. I have some stuff that I am testing all this month as well.

Anyway, product tests aside...today I participated in what may have been my favorite survey, EVER. It was also probably the longest survey that I have ever done, coming in at about 90 minutes!:scared: But I loved every second of it!

Why was this marathon survey my favorite? Let's just say it had my name written all over it. Someone up in the heavens must have been smiling down on me today when they doled out the surveys!

But I am also mentioning this wonderful survey experience because it instantly made me think of deejdigsdis in regards to something she has mentioned a few times in this very Trip Report thread!


Okay, okay, okay...I will end the suspense!


It was a survey all about Christmas songs!!!!!!!!!!


Better yet, it was a survey about songs played on Internet-based stations/channels like Last.fm or Pandora (deej has mentioned listening to Christmas songs on Pandora as she read the TR I just completed last week! See how it all comes around, full circle?)!!!

Anyway, for this survey I had to listen to snippets of basically every holiday song known to man, in every possible style (some standard; some contemporary; some for kids; some instrumental; some country; some rock; some classical; some novelty; some inspirational, etc.), sung by every person who has ever sung a holiday song, or so it seemed (anyone from Harry Connick Jr. to Jewel to Johhny Mathis to Michael Buble to Burl Ives, Bing Crosby, Sheryl Crow, Elvis, Dolly Parton, etc.). The "Snow Miser/Heat Miser" song from "Year Without Santa Claus" was even part of the mix!

I listened to 625 - yes, I said 625! - portions of holiday songs (which meant I heard 50 different versions of "Silent Night") and rated which ones I liked best, liked least, was tired of, etc. I also had to state whether or not I had heard that particular version of the song before. In other words, clearly I have heard "Winter Wonderland" before, but I have not necessarily heard every version sung by all sorts of different people.

It was great fun! As I said, this was a survey that had my name written all over it. Normally I get stuck with long, boring surveys about banking or mobile phones. Next to Disney-related things and some of my favorite TV shows or movies, I can't think of a topic I would rather do a survey about other than Christmas/Christmas songs!

So I am wondering if the survey I just completed is going to somehow affect the holiday song selection on Pandora and Last.fm in the future!??





Anyway...as I mentioned in my post on Friday, the weather is creeping back up to the 90-degree range. It is supposed to be 94 degrees in two days, and yet the mornings are very cool and crisp. The days are like Summer.

This is truly an odd time of year - October, I mean - because it's warm enough to still feel like Summer, and yet Christmas is slowly but surely inching its way into view! I am watching all of the super-fun Food Network/Travel Channel/HGTV Halloween TV shows, but my mind is not grasping that it's Halloween season because one second I feel as if it's Summer and the next second I am seeing Target holiday ads on TV and listening to 625 Christmas songs!

Also, I told you all a few days ago that "Love Actually" has been running on HBO for the last week or two (and is on again this coming weekend). I love love love that film and could watch it during any season, but it is odd that HBO didn't wait at least a month or so before running it - just so it would be closer to the holiday season...since it is a movie about all different types of love against a Christmas time backdrop.


Don't get me wrong - as I have said many times, I am a huge Christmas fanatic. I don't mind seeing Christmas things hit the TV and the stores in October. It doesn't bother me one bit. I think it is just a magical, beautiful, friendly, warm & fuzzy time of year and I don't mind speeding it up to get here fast. But I also enjoy Halloween and don't want it to get overlooked in the process!


I am still waiting to see this classic on TV, a favorite of mine for decades (all of the pictures below were obtained from Google Images)...


"It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown"...


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There's even a Rankin-Bass Halloween special that somehow escaped me (I must track it down)...

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Then comes "A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving"...

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And then the really good stuff begins!


"A Charlie Brown Christmas"...

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Rankin-Bass favorites (to show only a few of the many)...

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Between all of these little gems to look forward to and the upcoming Hallmark Channel Christmas marathon every weekend through New Year's, October-November-December is a time frame of great TV programming! As you can see - and as I mentioned in Part 3 of the Pre-TR/Background for the previous TR I just completed - I love me some holiday TV shows!!





Now...as for my potential Disneyland Halloween/holiday plans...

Well, here's the thing... If I were not planning to be at DLR either on 11/12 or a couple of days before it to catch the Cars Land/Buena Vista Street decorations and any new highlights that are significant enough to report back to the DIS, I would be going full speed ahead with a plan for Halloween Time - possibly even an actual Halloween day trip, which I have been wanting to do for a long time.

Normally, in any random year, I probably would not be at DLR on opening day of the holiday season. This year is different.

However, October 31st is close to November 12th in terms of planning, and in my world, because things are so tough for me right now, I can't really do back-to-back trips that are so close together like that, even day trips. It's too hard to arrange them, and there is too much involved for me in trying to make these little jaunts happen.

So, even though I am not yet ruling out a Halloween day trip to DLR (especially since my AP is still valid), my focus now has to shift towards the time frame of November 9-12, and I have to figure out which one of those days will be the day I venture to DLR. Even though the season begins on 11/12, presumably all of the Cars Land decor will be up in the days just before it...which means, do I really need to go on 11/12, or can I go a couple of days early?

And even before 11/9, 11/10, 11/11 or 11/12 hit, I have to start putting some thought into what I'm doing about December - which is when my 'real' holiday trip would be. If I take Jackie up on her offer to stay at her place (which probably means that she and Bob would take me home), I'd only be there for one night. I'd have to take that into consideration, and I'd have to do it at a time that was good for her.

Plus, I have to think about what I'm doing about my AP, seeing as it expires after 11/13. Do I renew on a payment plan and downgrade to a Deluxe? Do I renew and keep the Premium? Do I skip the renewal and instead get a Park Hopper in December?

Sigh. There's too much to think about, and not enough brain power to think about it! I still have 625 Christmas songs playing in my head!
 
Sherry you are too funny! You and my sister would get alone really well...any time of year I go to her house she is listening to Christmas music...the only CDs she has in her car are Christmas music...drives me crazy! :). I am someone who likes Christmas music on Christmas Eve and Christmas day...then I'm done.

I hope you are able to make both Halloween and Christmas trips happen. As it stands now I won't be able to make a trip back until 2014...so sad! but it is what it is...i'll live through the Dis for a while.
 













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