Nothing to See Here...

What an afternoon! It seems you had fun with your DIS friends. I can't imagine feeling ill at DL and being treated poorly by "M" who I suspect is out gallivanting with V.... :mad: ... We'll find out very soon.

BTW any SEAT for the parade is a great seat! :goodvibes
 
I am going to be totally rude. I think that "M" should be "B" for obvious reasons.:furious:

Michele -

No arguments here.:goodvibes



What an afternoon! It seems you had fun with your DIS friends. I can't imagine feeling ill at DL and being treated poorly by "M" who I suspect is out gallivanting with V.... :mad: ... We'll find out very soon.

BTW any SEAT for the parade is a great seat! :goodvibes


TK -

I don't know if it could really be called "fun," but that was due to no fault of Laurie and Molly, of course. It was just the way it worked out. Sure, I enjoyed chatting with Laurie and Molly, but the stage wasn't set for any real fun.

I was already getting more ill by the minute when I met up with Laurie - the scratchy throat was getting progressively worse. I didn't hang out with them in the parks other than when we were sitting up by the train station, and at that point I was upset because of "M's" latest stunt of not contacting me and instead sending her ailing father and husband - both of whom could not care less - to see the parade in her place. I felt I was stuck having to see a parade I didn't want to see at that point when I just wanted to crawl in bed and rest.

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Did anyone look at the picture of Holly Madison that I linked you to? I think there is also a picture of Kobe Bryant from that same day at DLR. I have rarely seen any celebrities at DLR - let alone two over the course of two days (the second one has not been revealed yet), but I have a hunch they may be more inclined to show up on weekdays and not weekends (fewer people in the parks, after all!).
 
I thought that by "M" leaving to go back to the hotel to rest up was bad, but this was even worse when "M" didn't even show up or even call you, text you or replied back to you. Since she and "R" were looking forward to A Christmas Fantasy Parade and seeing Belle and Beast I thought they would at least show up to see the parade especially with VIP seating and both of them bail on you is not right. Then "B" and "S" showed up for the parade which they don't seem that interested to see the parade which is just a big excuse. Than they leave you after the parade and didn't say anything which is rude. For someone to do that to you or anyone is not a friend at all. I would be the same thing and get very upset with them if they treated me like that. I'm sorry for saying some of these comments.

I'm glad that you got to meet up with Laurie and Molly that night.
 
(((Big hugs)))
Oh Sherry, when I began reading this next installment, my heart sank. I was really hoping "M" would show up or text you or something. I think I already know why you ending up crying on the bench. My gut feeling tells me "M" ditched you to hang out with "V" out in Carsland and California Adventure. This makes me sad and angry at the same time.

I just don't get why people play games like "M" does. Why not just be truthful and say tell the truth? Sure, it hurts, but, it depends on how much in how it is said. What was with slipping away from you without saying goodbye?

I love the picture of you, Laurie and Molly. :thumbsup2

Cool that you saw Holly Madison. She is pretty. I think I read she is pregnant now. I don't think I have ever noticed anyone famous at Disneyland and I have seen the plaids around quite a bit! I guess I was having too much fun :rotfl2:

I don't remember how old 'R' is, but I think letting him take a nap at 4pm is a bit late. But then again, my triplets gave up napping completely by the age of 18 months, so, I don't know. :confused3 They hate sleeping. They are afraid they will miss something! :rotfl2: I can see if she planned on keeping 'R' up until the park closed, to let him sleep, but then, why not say something to you. It gets me how rude she is/was to you. So wrong.
 

Man, Sherry. :confused: I just can't imagine someone treating a friend like that. And over and over again. I'm curious to hear about the current relationship status. I'm on the same page as the others. I'm thinking that M was off gallivanting with V. The lack of common courtesy is just astounding. To know that things just continue to go downhill...:hug:

Thanks for sharing those extra pics. I really enjoyed them. :goodvibes

I, too, assumed that VIP seating was synonymous with "best seats in the house." Interesting to hear what they really are.

I love "Carol of the Bells." There are lots of great versions of that song out there. Just had to put on The Calling's version while I type. :)
 
I thought that by "M" leaving to go back to the hotel to rest up was bad, but this was even worse when "M" didn't even show up or even call you, text you or replied back to you. Since she and "R" were looking forward to A Christmas Fantasy Parade and seeing Belle and Beast I thought they would at least show up to see the parade especially with VIP seating and both of them bail on you is not right. Then "B" and "S" showed up for the parade which they don't seem that interested to see the parade which is just a big excuse. Than they leave you after the parade and didn't say anything which is rude. For someone to do that to you or anyone is not a friend at all. I would be the same thing and get very upset with them if they treated me like that. I'm sorry for saying some of these comments.

I'm glad that you got to meet up with Laurie and Molly that night.

Bret -

Oh, I agree with you on the comments! You're not saying anything out of line. It's all true - and I have to say that I'm glad that other people agree that the way "M" handled things was rude and thoughtless. If I felt like I was the only one who thought that, it would be very frustrating!

"M" leaving to go back to the DLH and breaking our plan to stick together was bad enough.

In fact, the whole fiasco at Goofy's Kitchen when "M" backed out of treating me and not letting me know that she was backing out of that was bad enough - and the way she handled it the next day, by claiming that they had paid for me (even though she knew they hadn't), made it worse.

This time, not showing up for the parade - when she knew that I got the VIP seats specifically for her and her son - was just too much. The fact that she didn't even call me herself to tell me that she was sending her dad and father to see the parade was completely rude. She was the one who was supposed to be my friend, not her husband. She should have been making the call.

Besides that, "M" knew that her father had absolutely NO desire to see a Christmas parade. He does not celebrate Christmas. He does not like Christmas. The whole reason he even went on that trip when he was in poor health was to see "R" experience everything. And he got stuck seeing a parade that he probably hated having to sit through - probably just to make up for "M's" utter rudeness.

For that matter, I didn't even want to see the parade at that time. I have seen it enough for a while, and I don't think I'd want to see it again unless I had the seats that come with the tour. I didn't need to be sitting there, when I was getting sick, and watching a parade that I only arranged for the benefit of other people!

The whole time with "M" was basically just a mess - a memory I would like to erase from my mind. And even now, so many months later, as much as I've tried to think that there must be some logic behind being so inconsiderate, I just can't come up with any logical reasons!

But, hang on to your hat, Bret, because 'M's" final stunt on Day 4 is probably the worst one yet!



(((Big hugs)))
Oh Sherry, when I began reading this next installment, my heart sank. I was really hoping "M" would show up or text you or something. I think I already know why you ending up crying on the bench. My gut feeling tells me "M" ditched you to hang out with "V" out in Carsland and California Adventure. This makes me sad and angry at the same time.

I just don't get why people play games like "M" does. Why not just be truthful and say tell the truth? Sure, it hurts, but, it depends on how much in how it is said. What was with slipping away from you without saying goodbye?

I love the picture of you, Laurie and Molly. :thumbsup2

Cool that you saw Holly Madison. She is pretty. I think I read she is pregnant now. I don't think I have ever noticed anyone famous at Disneyland and I have seen the plaids around quite a bit! I guess I was having too much fun :rotfl2:

I don't remember how old 'R' is, but I think letting him take a nap at 4pm is a bit late. But then again, my triplets gave up napping completely by the age of 18 months, so, I don't know. :confused3 They hate sleeping. They are afraid they will miss something! :rotfl2: I can see if she planned on keeping 'R' up until the park closed, to let him sleep, but then, why not say something to you. It gets me how rude she is/was to you. So wrong.

Linda -

Thank you.:goodvibes

The picture with Laurie and Molly is Laurie's picture (taken with her camera or her phone). Since I have no other pictures of myself with Laurie and Molly in the actual parks, I had to borrow that one. I was pretty much 'over' the picture-taking at that point, because I was so disgusted and just not feeling well.

"R" was 4 at the time of the Disneyland trip (he is 5 now). If "M" and company had gotten themselves up and out earlier in the morning, then they could have taken "R" back for a nap earlier in the afternoon - and then everyone would have been able to meet me back at the train station for the parade! It's because they got such a late start and wasted so much time on shopping in only a few hours that they threw everything off-track.

They knew I had the parade planned for them...and they didn't even try to get going a little earlier so that we wouldn't run into that problem. They were just not concerned with me at all. They could not have cared less that they inconvenienced me or acted inconsiderate. Frankly, if "M's" father "S" had not been there to serve as a likely voice of reason and a voice of thoughtfulness and courtesy, I'm not sure if even "B" would have shown up for the parade! I have a feeling that even "B" would have flaked on me if "S" had not been there. I think that "S" was the one who was trying to be polite in that bunch.

Yes, I think Holly Madison is pregnant now. I saw some pictures of her not long ago and she had a really hot boyfriend with her!;) I'm not sure if he is the father of the child or not, but he sure was cute! It doesn't look like she misses Hugh Hefner or Criss Angel too much!

Apparently, Holly is at Disneyland/California Adventure all the time. She is one of the most well-known, 'famous' Disneyland fans and collectors around (along with John Stamos - I always thought that Holly and John Stamos should have hooked up as a couple). I figured that, sooner or later, I would be there at a time when she was there, since she seems to go so often. As I said last night, if I had seen her stop for pictures with other people I may have jumped in there for a photo, too, but I never would have been the one to stop her and interrupt her Disneyland trip on my own. I'd wait for someone else to do it first and then I'd horn in on the action!:rotfl2::rotfl2:

"M" and I had just been talking about Holly when we were in Vault 28 on the prior day, because "M" spotted a picture hanging on the wall and said, "Holly has that!" (We'd seen pictures of some of Holly's Disney collection online somewhere, and "M" recognized the picture in Vault 28 as being one of the things Holly owns.) "M" and I had talked about Holly a lot in the past, too, as "M" was a big fan of "The Girls Next Door" on E! when Holly was on it (before Holly and Hef broke up and other girls got on the show).

So you just know that if "M" ignored my text message about seeing and speaking to Holly in Disneyland, and didn't even acknowledge it in any way, that she was purposely avoiding me at that point. I think we can all agree on that fact - "M" didn't reply because she was purposely avoiding me, because she knew that she was not planning to see the parade and she didn't want to tell me. That seems very obvious now. And that's exactly the sort of thing she would have done "in the old days," but I thought she would have outgrown some of that behavior over the years. Wrong!


I don't want to spoil the big revelation that is coming up in the installment after the next installment (in other words, coming up in Part 2 of Day 4), and you're not too far off-base in your guesses about how some of the day went...BUT I will say that I don't think anyone can predict the way everything happened. It is the way that everything was handled that had me sitting on a bench, crying - and that is also what had my other friends in an uproar on my behalf.

So buckle up, because we have one more installment to get through before we get to the installment with the 'crying on a bench' moment. (And what fun it will be for me to relive that mess!:rotfl2::rotfl2:)
 
Man, Sherry. :confused: I just can't imagine someone treating a friend like that. And over and over again. I'm curious to hear about the current relationship status. I'm on the same page as the others. I'm thinking that M was off gallivanting with V. The lack of common courtesy is just astounding. To know that things just continue to go downhill...:hug:

Thanks for sharing those extra pics. I really enjoyed them. :goodvibes

I, too, assumed that VIP seating was synonymous with "best seats in the house." Interesting to hear what they really are.

I love "Carol of the Bells." There are lots of great versions of that song out there. Just had to put on The Calling's version while I type. :)

deej -

I'm confused by it all as well. On the one hand I expect it and think, "Well, that's how 'M' has always been." On the other hand, I think, "How can she still be like that after all these years, at this age?":confused3

Yes, I will definitely post a 'where are we now' update about "M" at the end of this tome, because I know that it will be an obvious question in everyone's mind!

I was shocked to see the bonus photos on the PhotoPass CD - they were kind of interspersed with the other pictures we had taken, and not all together in one group. At first I thought it was a mistake, but others have mentioned getting the pictures too - in fact, others have mentioned getting extra pictures because they took PhotoPass photos in different spots around the parks.

Yep - the VIP seats definitely do not offer up the best view of the parade. The seats with the holiday tour offer the best actual views and seats. But the VIP seats - because they are up the steps and in front of the train station - are a good place for noteworthy people to sit if they don't want to be seen by too many people. If someone really famous had been there at the time we were there, we wouldn't have been allowed to sit there too, I'm sure.

At that point, I did not want to see the parade. The song from the parade has been stuck in my head since 2010 because I kept running into it everywhere I went!:rotfl2: I could have easily gone a few more years without seeing it again, but I got those seats solely for "my friend." Ha!:headache:

"Carol of the Bells" is good. I really love "O Holy Night," "The First Noel" and several others but haven't figured out where to work them into this TR yet!:rotfl2: I may just randomly throw them in somewhere. I will burst into song in the middle of the TR for no apparent reason!
 
deej -

"Carol of the Bells" is good. I really love "O Holy Night," "The First Noel" and several others but haven't figured out where to work them into this TR yet!:rotfl2: I may just randomly throw them in somewhere. I will burst into song in the middle of the TR for no apparent reason!

Please do! "O Holy Night" is my absolute favorite of the religious Christmas songs, with "The First Noel" up there in my Top 5. "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" is my favorite secular Christmas song. :santa:
 
I can't believe someone whom you cared about as a long time friend and extended family member would treat you so badly. You deserve way better than that, Sherry. You are a wonderful addition to the Dis as a moderator and poster - a real treasure! You are so helpful and full of information and I KNOW it takes a lot out of a person's time and energy to keep up with your big holiday threads. I for one really appreciate all of the time you take to plan the themed weeks out in advance and post all of your pics which you carefully crop, adjust and organize. Not to mention taking the time to write up your posts and TRs for the benefit of all of us here. We are the ones that get sprinkled with pixie dust whenever you are around. pixiedust: (Maybe it is just the overflow pixie dust from those times when you smash yourself in the face?)

I hope that once this TR is done, it will have been a good healing process for you. No need to waste any mental and emotional energy on someone like that. Maybe she deserves pity for having such a crummy influence on other people's lives but she won't be doing it to you any more!
 
When B & S were the only ones to show up, that was certainly BS! ;-) M is unbelievable. And guess we have not even heard the worst yet!
 
Please do! "O Holy Night" is my absolute favorite of the religious Christmas songs, with "The First Noel" up there in my Top 5. "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" is my favorite secular Christmas song. :santa:

"Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" is a great one too - and it's a song that I have grown to love more as the years have passed. (Notice that I started out this TR with that song as the kickoff song!) There seems to be a bit of a 'tug at the heartstrings' element to it that some other songs don't have. Plus, it's just a really nice melody.

Many of the Christmas songs I love have beautiful melodies. "O Holy Night" is a beautiful song - it has a great tune and it's dramatic in the necessary places. It's a good showcase for powerful singers. "The First Noel" has a good melody. "What Child is This" has a great melody. There are others I am forgetting.

Of course, I like most Christmas songs - religious, fun, classic, whatever - simply because they remind me of Christmas, but there are some I love just for the overall tone/feeling/sound of them.
 
Wow. More avoidance. I would prefer people be rude but transparent than ignore/avoid me.

That day sounds so sad for their child ... a first trip to Disneyland and he spends his first day with his parents wasting the morning, going into shops because they are dangled right in front of him (probably had no real grasp of what lay beyond them), riding four rides (which he appeared to love), and looks like he's done for the day.

I know you said M's father wasn't your favorite as a kid, but so far he's the only one trying to be a stand-up guy. Shame it didn't get passed down to M.

If it gets worse from here I feel for you even after this long ... I don't know whether it's cathartic or painful for you to re-live this after so long. Maybe the subtitle of "the nightmare before Christmas?" :lmao:

PHXscuba
 
I can't believe someone whom you cared about as a long time friend and extended family member would treat you so badly. You deserve way better than that, Sherry. You are a wonderful addition to the Dis as a moderator and poster - a real treasure! You are so helpful and full of information and I KNOW it takes a lot out of a person's time and energy to keep up with your big holiday threads. I for one really appreciate all of the time you take to plan the themed weeks out in advance and post all of your pics which you carefully crop, adjust and organize. Not to mention taking the time to write up your posts and TRs for the benefit of all of us here. We are the ones that get sprinkled with pixie dust whenever you are around. pixiedust: (Maybe it is just the overflow pixie dust from those times when you smash yourself in the face?)

I hope that once this TR is done, it will have been a good healing process for you. No need to waste any mental and emotional energy on someone like that. Maybe she deserves pity for having such a crummy influence on other people's lives but she won't be doing it to you any more!

Chereya -

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the very kind words and compliments.:goodvibes I greatly appreciate it!:hug: It's good to know that I am appreciated too!

Well, you know, enough time has passed where that I am not 'hurt' by "M's" antics at DLR anymore. I am more annoyed than anything, but it is what it is. I realized that nothing had changed, and now I don't have to deal with it. I saw her after 10 years. I don't have to see her again at all if I don't want to - and I certainly know to avoid being in Disneyland with her.

I wanted to finish the TR because I've been doing TR's in this thread for the last 4 years. I've always reported on how the trips came to be and how they evolved. This was just one more trip to report. I wouldn't have felt 'complete' if I'd left it out of the thread. I felt like once I mentioned some of what happened, I had to carry through and report the whole thing because it was noteworthy. Fortunately, we don't have too much longer to go in this saga.

But the initial emotional reactions I had to the whole mess have pretty much passed...except for wanting to smash myself in the face with pixie dust, of course!:rotfl2::rotfl2:


When B & S were the only ones to show up, that was certainly BS! ;-) M is unbelievable. And guess we have not even heard the worst yet!

ttig34 -

:rotfl2:

"Unbelievable" is a good word for it! The worst of the worst is coming up in Day 4 - in the installment after the next one. (The next installment will be mostly photos.)


Wow. More avoidance. I would prefer people be rude but transparent than ignore/avoid me.

That day sounds so sad for their child ... a first trip to Disneyland and he spends his first day with his parents wasting the morning, going into shops because they are dangled right in front of him (probably had no real grasp of what lay beyond them), riding four rides (which he appeared to love), and looks like he's done for the day.

I know you said M's father wasn't your favorite as a kid, but so far he's the only one trying to be a stand-up guy. Shame it didn't get passed down to M.

If it gets worse from here I feel for you even after this long ... I don't know whether it's cathartic or painful for you to re-live this after so long. Maybe the subtitle of "the nightmare before Christmas?" :lmao:

PHXscuba

PHX -

"M's" dad was not fond of me as a kid (because he thought I was a bad influence on her - hahahahaha!:rotfl2:), and was not terribly friendly. However, I agree with you - he was trying to be polite and decent on this DLR trip in December. I'm sure he came to the parade to be courteous...since "M" was not. The fact that she would put her dad in that position, though - knowing he does not like Christmasy things - is a whole other issue!

It will get worse from here in the TR - but other than actually typing it all out (because don't you all want to see how this ends?), I'm not really affected by it anymore. If anything, I may recap a particular event and get irritated, but it passes quickly. I really just wanted to finish the TR.

Plus, I have a feeling that there are lots of folks out there who occasionally have trips to DLR that are, let's say, not what they thought they'd be. Maybe we don't hear the reports, but I know they happen. I guess I can show that there are ways to tell a rather unfortunate tale and make it somewhat funny and somewhat entertaining...9 months later!:rotfl2::rotfl2:

Oooooh! "Nightmare Before Christmas" would have been a great title for the TR, and it's definitely something that I would use (that would be fitting with my type of humor)! That's a great idea, PHX!:thumbsup2 Hmmm...maybe it will have to be a subtitle, indeed.
 
Now I am humming Christmas music. Sigh. Not cool!!
 
Now I am humming Christmas music. Sigh. Not cool!!

Michele -

I often find that I am humming certain Christmas songs when I am doing various tasks like washing dishes, etc. They do tend to stick in one's head! But Christmas songs also set a very definite mood and tone for me - I very much associate them with November and December - so sometimes it seems to not 'work' in creating that mood and tone if I listen to a song or hum it at a time that is nowhere near the holiday season.:rotfl2: The songs don't always hold the same magic if I listen to them in June or something, even though I do love them!

I suppose it's kind of like eating peppermint ice cream in a month that is not November or December. Sure, my local Ralphs store may start carrying the Dreyer's Peppermint Stick ice cream in just a couple of weeks, but would I really feel 'right' about eating it before November (at the earliest)? I think it would lose some of its luster for me if I ate it in September!



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Anyway, I should have the next installment of the TR - maybe even two installments - up tomorrow, after I get the next Halloween thread Theme Week posted!


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I suppose it's kind of like eating peppermint ice cream in a month that is not November or December. Sure, my local Ralphs store may start carrying the Dreyer's Peppermint Stick ice cream in just a couple of weeks, but would I really feel 'right' about eating it before November (at the earliest)? I think it would lose some of its luster for me if I ate it in September!

I bought some peppermint right after it came out a couple years ago and sure enough, I was sick of it before Christmas (I may have bought a second carton :rolleyes1). Plus most of my family doesn't eat it so I get most of the carton, which isn't true of any other flavor that enters our house. My MIL likes it, and my brother if he's visiting. So now I wait until after Thanksgiving and just enjoy it in December. As much as I love Christmas, I think it remains more special if it's just one precious month.

PHXscuba
 
I bought some peppermint right after it came out a couple years ago and sure enough, I was sick of it before Christmas (I may have bought a second carton :rolleyes1). Plus most of my family doesn't eat it so I get most of the carton, which isn't true of any other flavor that enters our house. My MIL likes it, and my brother if he's visiting. So now I wait until after Thanksgiving and just enjoy it in December. As much as I love Christmas, I think it remains more special if it's just one precious month.

PHXscuba

PHX -

Yes, I agree about keeping it more special by applying limitations here and there.

Well, I'm weird, though...and I keep changing my mind.:rotfl2: On the one hand, when I see a random Christmas movie marathon on the Hallmark Channel in the middle of July, I am excited. It's fun to get a bit of Christmas magic at a time when I'm not expecting to get it. And then I also like to plan my own little "Christmas TV marathons" way before the first bag of chocolate bells hits the shelves (which could be as early as September!).

On the other hand, I realize that listening to a full array of Christmas songs and eating peppermint ice cream any time before November would feel wrong, somehow, and it would take away some of the special-ness of the season.:rotfl2:

So which is it for me? Apparently I cannot make up my mind!:rotfl2::rotfl2: I love Christmas and all things associated with it so much - I don't even mind if Christmasy things start hitting the shelves in September or October! And that peppermint ice cream might still taste great if I were to eat it in September...however, I bet it tastes 100 times better in November/December!


I'm still pondering your suggestion of "The Nightmare Before Christmas" TR subtitle, by the way - that is too good to ignore, so I will have to figure it out.:idea: One thing I have established is that I think I will be done with this whole TR within the week!!!!:banana::cool1:

Barring any unforeseen developments, setbacks or earthquake-related mayhem, I should be on track to finally, finally get this whopper of a TR completed in one week. I have a couple of different posts to add for Day 4, and then probably one (or two, at the most) posts for Day 5...and then...all done! I will be glad to be done with this beast - I wanted to get through it because I would have felt incomplete to not include it in this thread, but I will be relieved when it is over and I can move on to more pleasant trips to report!!:cool1:
 
The peppermint ice cream is really good with warm cookies.:rolleyes2
 
The peppermint ice cream is really good with warm cookies.:rolleyes2

I've never eaten peppermint ice cream with anything other than a cone!




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Okay, folks...I am in the home stretch of my Halloween Superthread Theme Week Countdown (I'm doing a different mini-theme every day this week until Friday, 9/14), and I have to prepare a new Theme Week for the Christmas Superthread (to be ready 2 days from now, on Monday), and that countdown is stretching all the way to November.

So it is Theme Week gridlock in the 2 different holiday Superthreads, but I am still about to go to work on my next TR installment!

The next installment to this TR will mostly consist of photos, so it shouldn't take too long to get through. The post after that will be the one where I will have to explain a bit more, as that's the part of the trip in which I ended up on a bench, crying in DCA!

After the next 2 installments have been completed, I should have maybe 1-3 more installments (maximum) in the entire TR, and then I will be DONE with this particular DLR trip!!:cool1:pixiedust:

I have to start thinking about what I'm doing as far as a Halloween Time visit, so the end of the December 2011 TR couldn't come at a better time!:cool1:

Stay tuned!!!
 
Don't keep me in suspense ... I am leaving town on Friday and I don't want to miss the big moment!!

Only slightly obsessively stalking this TR thread,
PHXscuba
 













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