mvf-m11c
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Bret -
I wonder if Earl of Sandwich will stop taking the AP discount. Maybe that's why it hasn't been listed on the AP site yet - perhaps they are going to stop taking it.
I don't know about that Tables in Wonderland card for $100. That doesn't sound like it would work for every situation - only for some.
So, let me get this straight - if you want to use your AP at WDW for table service restaurants, you have to eat at certain times to get the discounts? You can't just go and eat at any old time of the day to be able to use it? And only some of the table service restaurants accept the AP discount? You can't use your AP on the counter service places at all? Interesting (but not in a good way)! That whole set-up almost makes DLR's AP a bargain!
When the DLR Premium AP went up $150 this year, my first thought was that Disney would do the biggest price increase then, right before Cars Land opened, and then do much smaller increases over the next couple of years. For example, they used to raise the DAP and PAP by maybe $30-$50 a year. The $150 increase on the PAP was massive, so I am guessing that the next couple of increases will be much smaller. They could have broken it up so that instead of $150 at once, it was $50 each year for the next couple of years. They wanted more money up front, to get back a little of what they spent on CL and BVS. I think that Disney would be absolutely out of their minds if they tried another $150 increase on the PAP this year.
Aside from the AP prices, Laurie/DizNee Luver and I have discussed how Disney has also gone crazy with their hotel prices. Yes, all of the onsite hotels are expensive, but in the case of the PPH they have gotten ahead of themselves. Laurie and I both love the PPH, whereas a lot of people had no interest in staying there for years.
Now that the PPH is starting to get many more bookings, the prices have gone way, way up per night. Even an AP doesn't get you anything more than a 10% discount now - all of the good AP discounts seem to be gone. But the problem is that even though the PPH is a nice place to stay, it is in no way worth what Disney is charging for it. The DLH and GCH are big properties with grounds to explore - they are more like real resort hotels. The PPH does not have that kind of property. It is much smaller and there isn't really much to it, so the prices that Disney charges for the PPH per night without discounts ($300+) are totally outrageous because it is not a $300 per night hotel!
I wonder what direction Disney will take (in terms of prices) with this whole "fiscal cliff" situation that we are dealing with in America. It is sounding like a lot of people may be taking big pay cuts and/or getting huge tax increases, and more jobs will be lost, etc. If this happens, I really think there will be a drop in attendance at DLR. I know that it may be cheaper to go there than it is to go other places for a weekend, but I think that is millions of Americans suddenly get hit with those cuts and increases, Disney parks will suffer for a while.
That will be very disappointing if Disney doesn't continue the AP discount for Earl of Sandwich since it is only a couple of months since it opened. I'll find out if they still have the AP discount for Earl of Sandwich.
The Tables in Wonderland card is an option for buying if you are an AP holder, DVC members and Florida residents so you can save 20% off at participating sit down restaurants at WDW. If you are eating at a lot of sit down restaurants at WDW then it is worth purchasing it since you can 20%.
That is correct of what it says on the AP discounts for the sit down restaurants. If you just have the AP discount and don't have the TiW card, there are specific times that you can get the discount. Here is an example: If I am eating at Teppan Edo restaurant at the Japan Pavilion in EPCOT and the only way I can get 10% off the regular price of food and beverages (excluding alcohol/tax/gratuity) during lunch from Monday through Friday. There are some restaurants without the TiW card you can get the discount. While most of the restaurants at WDW accept the TiW, there are some that don't accept the TiW card. I don't know which ones that don't accept them but just like at Napa Rose where they don't accept the AP. That is correct that you can't use your AP for the quick counter restaurants which seems ridiculous. DL AP is a real bargain where you can get discounts at the quick counter and sit down restaurants.
There was no question that the Premium AP went up to $150 is for the new Cars Land and Buena Vista Street. I would expect the same thing when Disney increases the prices of the tickets and AP middle of next year. Hopefully next year prices won't be that much.
The DLR hotel prices have gone up so dramatically the last couple of years where staying at PPH is over $200 during the slow season. I know that you love staying at PPH and people do have preference of where they like to stay. I love to stay at the GCH and would want to stay there again one day. It have been nice of staying off site so I can save some money and go back to Anaheim in the future.
There is no question that PPH prices are way to high and not even worth the price. It is disappointing that the prices at PPH is high and maybe one day they will cut down on staying at PPH.
With the economy going on today, I wouldn't be surprise to see attendance at the DLR go down next year.
Very nice pictures of the masks and instruments on the light poles around the alley of NOS. They did add a lot of masks around the alley of NOS the last couple of years and it does match the theme of the Holiday season at NOS.