Not to reopen that can of worms but...

I was recently pregnant, so I Would get input prior to
The family going on a ride I could not go on and once their FP+ was used, I would go to the kiosk.

Now, if we want a 4th, I do it while they play Sorceror's.


Our family is a size of 7. If we have an ADR, it is together.

For larger groups, I guess it is something I keep in mind. In your scenario, ride B would be selected because it is the first choice of the three that works for everyone. Depending on what that ride was and where the ADR was.

Really depends on the goal and if the party needs to split. They split.

We could go over many scenarios. ADRs were not part of the original equation, though.

Sounds suspiciously like a FP runner. But how can that be?? That horror has gone the way of the dodo since the arrival of FP+...hasn't it?
 
This post has done nothing other than affirm my desire never to go to Disney with a large group. Coordinating with a large group of people is no bueno no matter what system you're using.

I remember a post from the first testing of FP+ where someone was discussing how much they had to do for their large group. Another poster suggested they might as well just spend the entire trip in the room coordinating everyone else's plans and activities. :)
 

This subject was discussed in a thread you started a couple of days ago.

The numbers look significantly different when you consider that Disney only counts the first park visited by a guest in a day and that in 1991 DHS was in its infancy and DAK was several years away from opening.
So what? I'm not allowed to comment on the numbers on another thread?

Didn't Disney always count the first park a guest entered or is this something new?
 
Glad it worked well for you!

No horse, so a dancing bear will have to do. And if it is not a bear, I blame my small screen and you are welcome to enjoy the dancing critter. (Maybe it is a dog since bears aren't spotted.)
:dogdance:

What did you think of FP+?



I would just say we found a way to make it work for us.

We had a great time in spite of FP+, not because of it.
 
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I agree the problem is one of capacity, but Disney could very easily have addressed this.

I know people like to talk up the great growth in crowds at WDW, but in reality over the long run crowds really aren't up very much.

MK is only up about 10% from 1991 !!! 10% over 25 years !!! You are telling me they couldn't build capacity up to keep pace with crowds over that period ?
EPCOT is down and flat
HS is down from its peak
AK is slightly up ...



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Interesting that you picked 1991. Someone else could pick 1994 and say "Wow - MK has almost double the attendance that they did 20 years ago"

Numbers are fun!
 
Unfortunately for OP you will not gain much from these threads. It is very hard to glean any helpful information because it gets drowned out by people pushing agendas.

I would highly recommend reading Mesa's FP+ thread in his signature. Other people's experiences and anecdotes will end up having basically zero value due to the extremely large number of variables that will effect your experience (and sometimes their extreme bias on the subject one way or another). Whatever system is in place it is very important for you to be as knowledgeable as possible on the ins and outs so you can make the system work for you as well as possible. Ready Mesa's posts and if you have a question ask him directly in his thread.

These threads are for pushing an agenda through snark and passive-aggressive "likes". Mesa's thread is for people who want to arm themselves with knowledge in order to have an effective strategy to optimize their touring of the WDW theme parks.
 
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Unfortunately for OP you will not gain much from these threads. It is very hard to glean any helpful information because it gets drowned out by people pushing agendas.

I would highly recommend reading Mesa's FP+ thread in his signature. Other people's experiences and anecdotes will end up having basically zero value due to the extremely large number of variables that will effect your experience (and sometimes their extreme bias on the subject one way or another). Whatever system is in place it is very important for you to be as knowledgeable as possible on the ins and outs so you can make the system work for you as well as possible. Ready Mesa's posts and if you have a question ask him directly in his thread.

These threads are for pushing an agenda through snark and passive-aggressive "likes". Mesa's thread is for people who want to arm themselves with knowledge in order to have an effective strategy to optimize their strategies for touring the WDW theme parks.

I feel like I have learned things from reading many threads about FP+ (such as this one). I understand the "agenda" thing, but I don't think every reply is part of that. And I actually think this thread has been pretty polite :flower3: ... as these things go.
 
I feel like I have learned things from reading many threads about FP+ (such as this one). I understand the "agenda" thing, but I don't think every reply is part of that. And I actually think this thread has been pretty polite :flower3: ... as these things go.

I agree this thread (and many of the FP threads) has been much more polite than some in the past which is a great thing.

I will stick by my point that in general you will gain MUCH more valuable knowledge from Mesa's thread than reading about someone else's anecdotal experience. The danger of reading into someone else's experience is that even if a couple of variables are the same or similar your experience is likely to be different because there are just so many variables. People will tend to make assumptions base on other's experiences. Once those assumptions start to fall apart is important to have the foundation of knowledge about the system that Mesa provides.
 
Interesting that you picked 1991. Someone else could pick 1994 and say "Wow - MK has almost double the attendance that they did 20 years ago"

Numbers are fun!

It is also fun to look at the total of all guests visiting the WDW parks and look at the impact of the development of DHS, the opening of DAK, and the impact of external economic and world events.
 
It is also fun to look at the total of all guests visiting the WDW parks and look at the impact of the development of DHS, the opening of DAK, and the impact of external economic and world events.

I agree! So many factors that make the numbers do so many interesting things. Also plenty of opportunities to highlight any numbers you choose to "prove" any point you wish to make...

Will be really interesting to look at numbers over the next 10-15 years as the Orlando tourism landscape continues to evolve...
 
Interesting that you picked 1991. Someone else could pick 1994 and say "Wow - MK has almost double the attendance that they did 20 years ago"

Numbers are fun!

That chart was not created by that poster (so he did not "pick" 1991). HydroGuy, a prolific, knowledgeable poster in the DLR forums here, wrote an article for the DIS recently and the historical attendance chart going back to 1991 was part of his article.
 
I think it depends on your definition of an equal playing field. It really wasn't equal when you had to get up early to get FPs for certain rides. The edge was definitely to those who arrived at the parks at open.

I don't think there is a way to make the system truly equal for all.

????? Are you suggesting that everyone doesn't have an equal chance of getting to the park early????? Isnt that a matter of personal choice/circumstance ??

We are not early park people but if someone chooses to get to the park before I do and because of that gets something I don't get, unless Disney is preventing me from getting there at the same time by saying that person has the right to earlier entry than I do, I have imho no right to suggest that isn't fair. I have the same opportunity that they do, Im just choosing not to exercise it.
 
Not everyone lives in the Eastern time zone. So no it really isn't fair to expect them to get up super early for the chance to ride a ride.

Fair depends on how you look at things. There is no way for Disney to set up FP and have it be fair to everyone. You just have to make the best of whatever system they have.
 
That chart was not created by that poster (so he did not "pick" 1991). HydroGuy, a prolific, knowledgeable poster in the DLR forums here, wrote an article for the DIS recently and the historical attendance chart going back to 1991 was part of his article.

That chart also appeared in an item in which the author declared that the Disney brand is "alive and well". So, it is kind of amusing to see some trying to use it to suggest that attendance at Disney isn't really growing at an acceptable rate.
 





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