Not sure I'm getting why FP+ is "limiting" peoples experience.

Yeah I got that, but you can not feel it unless you wear your band way too tight

The band is hardly tight. As a matter of fact, if anything it is too loose. It slides around. I've been considering tightening it, but I'm afraid it will then get sweaty or more uncomfortable. I don't want to spend my time adjusting the stupid thing all day long. Besides, they are not the best material; I can see the thing warping and completely falling off. Just because it fits one person one way, doesn't mean it doesn't fit someone else differently. All people are built differently, but everyone I know IRL have had the same complaint of being uncomfortable.

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The band is hardly tight. As a matter of fact, if anything it is too loose. It slides around. I've been considering tightening it, but I'm afraid it will then get sweaty or more uncomfortable. I don't want to spend my time adjusting the stupid thing all day long. Besides, they are not the feet material; I can see the thing warping and completely falling off. Just because it fits one person one way, doesn't mean it doesn't fit someone else differently. All people are built differently, but everyone I know IRL have had the same complaint of being uncomfortable.

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It can be made pretty tight even on a small wrist if you peel away the outer grey portion; that made it tight on DD9's wrist.

As long as we're stuck with this thing, presuming they mean to eventually do away with the RF card option as a substitute, I wish they would offer it in an alternative form like a key chain or something. I was not happy wearing something on my wrist and took it off at every opportunity.
 
Until they "tweak" in more than 3 FPs per day, or allow more than one per attraction, or "tweak" out the tiering, or add in hopping, I think I'm capable of judging whether this will be good for our touring style. It's not that complicated. It doesn't require that I ante up many thousands of dollars to try it in person first.

This. Exactly this.
 
I think you need to recognize that this is also the Internet. Things on the Net often need to be taken with a grain of salt. Unless you use the system and find it unsatisfactory, reconsider changing your view of WDW just based on comments posted on threads like this.

I also encourage you to read my view of things here:

http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2013/11/06/disneys-magicbands-the-hype-the-hysteria-you/

So why should they take things here with a grain of salt but not do the same with your blog:confused3

Yes and no. Many of the posts are from those who have not used the system as it stands right now. Before the mass testing, there were countless threads here from people who complained before even understanding what FP+ was, and I think that had led to an unfair perception of it. The system has been tweaked multiple times already during the testing phase and will continue to be until it is fully implemented and announced by Disney.

The bottom line is that these types of posts are opinions. I don't think someone should base their opinion off of what someone else says even if they have used it. One doesn't know the conditions the person used it under, if they scheduled FP+s ahead of time, what type of device they're using, etc. I think with something like this that is so personable (unlike a dining review, for instance) guests need to decide for themselves.

I have this thing called reading comprehension. I was able to read what the rules of FP+ was before my trip and decide we were not thrilled with it. And it did not help that WDW kept changing those rules on a daily basis during testing, so I was very apprehensive about using FP+ bc we spent a lot of money on a short trip.

We were very fortunate not to have the glitches that many had with their MBs. But we saw the limitations before using, during the trip and now after the fact.

One thing that is being sold about this FP+ is that you can change on the fly, well the one time we actually needed to the wifi stunk and when we finally got on we could not change it. So this worked for some but it didnt work for us.

We also used FP- and got in before the tiers, so even though we did not experience these firsthand, I can comprehend that this will stink when we have to experience it.
 

Yes and no. Many of the posts are from those who have not used the system as it stands right now. Before the mass testing, there were countless threads here from people who complained before even understanding what FP+ was, and I think that had led to an unfair perception of it. The system has been tweaked multiple times already during the testing phase and will continue to be until it is fully implemented and announced by Disney.

The bottom line is that these types of posts are opinions. I don't think someone should base their opinion off of what someone else says even if they have used it. One doesn't know the conditions the person used it under, if they scheduled FP+s ahead of time, what type of device they're using, etc. I think with something like this that is so personable (unlike a dining review, for instance) guests need to decide for themselves.

If you can't judge or understand FP+ before you use it, how can you intellegently book FP+ 60 days BEFORE your trip?
 
Ugh. Can we please get rid of the assumption that because I'm Jimmy's mom and I don't like getting up early that I am a slacker???!!! LOL Just because I don't rise before the sun, does not make me a slacker or lazy or whatever other synonym you'd like to use.

Thank you! :)

I've never intimated that people who choose to sleep in on vacation are lazy (it is a vacation after all). Only that they CHOSE to sleep in and the ramification of that choice was often lack of FP availability. FP+ is one "solution" to ensuring that you can obtain at least some FPs regardless of whether you sleep in or not. Of course, another way to ensure you got FPs was to make the choice to arrive earlier when they were plentiful and keep track of when you were eligible to take another.

I have this thing called reading comprehension. I was able to read what the rules of FP+ was before my trip and decide we were not thrilled with it. And it did not help that WDW kept changing those rules on a daily basis during testing, so I was very apprehensive about using FP+ bc we spent a lot of money on a short trip.

We also used FP- and got in before the tiers, so even though we did not experience these firsthand, I can comprehend that this will stink when we have to experience it.

Pure speculation! You're not allowed to draw any conclusions until AFTER you have experienced it first-hand! Unless, of course, you assume it's the best thing since sliced bread, in which case... carry on. ;)
 
If you can't judge or understand FP+ before you use it, how can you intellegently book FP+ 60 days BEFORE your trip?

Insert Jeapordy theme music as we all think.........:scratchin
 
I thought the band was very uncomfortable and kept mine clipped to my lanyard. I have a small wrist and the inflexible part of the band was larger than the width of my wrist so it stuck out a bit on each side. I tried leaving it loose but then it slid around, which I couldn't tolerate. I removed the extra strip on the band and tried wearing it on a smaller hole but it was still very uncomfortable. I'm picky about things like that though...tags in clothing, seams on the toes of socks, where a shoe touches the back of my heel, etc. I strongly disliked FP+ and I did not wear my magic band, but I did like the MB features and think it's an improvement over regular old KTTW cards.

Having the Mickey head part stand up and away from the wrist was part of the design (not just a peculiarity of your wrist). It makes matching the Mickey head withe the scanners easier and allows for air to keep your wrist from being wrapped completely in silicon in the Florida heat and humidity.
 
Having the Mickey head part stand up and away from the wrist was part of the design (not just a peculiarity of your wrist). It makes matching the Mickey head withe the scanners easier and allows for air to keep your wrist from being wrapped completely in silicon in the Florida heat and humidity.

It wasn't that it stood up off my wrist that bothered me, but that it stuck out on each side of my wrist. Rather that wrapping around the curvature of my wrist, it stuck off the sides a bit, and then wrapped under. I guess it's difficult to explain. If your wrist is 3" across the top, try putting a 5" wide stick there and taping it on, lol. It was awkward and uncomfortable, at least to me. :rotfl:
 
If you can't judge or understand FP+ before you use it, how can you intellegently book FP+ 60 days BEFORE your trip?

The trouble is I would evaluate both side of your statement as true: I would say it's impossible to judge or (fully) understand FP+ before you use it. At best, we can make a preliminary judgement based on our current understanding of the rollout version of FP+. The first problem is your preliminary judgement could be wrong. How many times have you gone to a movie you thought you were going to like and hated it, or liked I movie you initially thought you'd hate. Second, I don't think anybody understands what's going to happen once FP+ get's fully rolled out. At best we can get an indication based on whats happening at AK.

On the other side, at this point, I'm not sure anybody can make the perfect FP+ decision 60 days out. At best, you can make an intelligent best guess based on preconceived notions of how things are going to work. I could take a couple of real trips before you start making really intelligent decisions about your FP+.

Most of this stuff can also be said about FP- over the years. It took people time to develop the FP- strategies they use today. Even at that, over the years thing could happen to make your plans go awry. Back several of years ago there were testing on RNR a version of the lineless wait system currently being used on Dumbo. There was no single rider line, no FP line, everyone got a slip of paper with a number on it. You had to wait there in the plaza area until your number came up on a big board. At that point, your group would go almost directly into the preshow. That probably put a kink in quite a few peoples FP strategy.

My next trip is a year away. I'm cautiously optimistic about FP+. Based on what we know now, I think I have an idea about how I want to book my FP+. But, as time goes on, I can see that changing.
 
Plus if you don't understand how to walk up to a legacy fastpass machine, look at the return times and simply enter your card to get a fastpass then how can all of this make sense when you do it way ahead of time?
 
Our next vacay is in July, so this will be the first time using MBs and FP+. I think the MB is going to be a great improvement over the KTTW cards, just for the sake of convenience. However, I have great reservations about FP+. As the planner for 8 people, all of whom vary in age from 5-80 and have different interests, I can't imagine booking fastpasses for each member of our group. I dare to hope that we will be able to use FP+ AND still use the FP- system, but I fear that I am being too optimistic. At this point, with changes being made continually to the system, there doesn't seem to be a straightforward answer to the question of whether or not FP-and FP+ can BOTH be used. I guess I'll just wait and see what the feedback is on the system closer to our FP+ booking date in May. Right now, if I have the choice of using FP+ or the old system, I think I'm going to just stick with FP-and hope for the best!
 
Our next vacay is in July, so this will be the first time using MBs and FP+. I think the MB is going to be a great improvement over the KTTW cards, just for the sake of convenience. However, I have great reservations about FP+. As the planner for 8 people, all of whom vary in age from 5-80 and have different interests, I can't imagine booking fastpasses for each member of our group. I dare to hope that we will be able to use FP+ AND still use the FP- system, but I fear that I am being too optimistic. At this point, with changes being made continually to the system, there doesn't seem to be a straightforward answer to the question of whether or not FP-and FP+ can BOTH be used. I guess I'll just wait and see what the feedback is on the system closer to our FP+ booking date in May. Right now, if I have the choice of using FP+ or the old system, I think I'm going to just stick with FP-and hope for the best!


:welcome:

Paper FP for Disney resort guests is going the way of the dodo bird by the end of January, so FP+ it will be for your stay in July (unless of course if something drastically changes).
 
The trouble is I would evaluate both side of your statement as true: I would say it's impossible to judge or (fully) understand FP+ before you use it. At best, we can make a preliminary judgement based on our current understanding of the rollout version of FP+. The first problem is your preliminary judgement could be wrong. How many times have you gone to a movie you thought you were going to like and hated it, or liked I movie you initially thought you'd hate. Second, I don't think anybody understands what's going to happen once FP+ get's fully rolled out. At best we can get an indication based on whats happening at AK.

On the other side, at this point, I'm not sure anybody can make the perfect FP+ decision 60 days out. At best, you can make an intelligent best guess based on preconceived notions of how things are going to work. I could take a couple of real trips before you start making really intelligent decisions about your FP+.

Most of this stuff can also be said about FP- over the years. It took people time to develop the FP- strategies they use today. Even at that, over the years thing could happen to make your plans go awry. Back several of years ago there were testing on RNR a version of the lineless wait system currently being used on Dumbo. There was no single rider line, no FP line, everyone got a slip of paper with a number on it. You had to wait there in the plaza area until your number came up on a big board. At that point, your group would go almost directly into the preshow. That probably put a kink in quite a few peoples FP strategy.

My next trip is a year away. I'm cautiously optimistic about FP+. Based on what we know now, I think I have an idea about how I want to book my FP+. But, as time goes on, I can see that changing.

Sorry that I have to really disagree that it's impossible to judge or understand FP+ before I use it. I know that I don't like only 3 FP s a day and one for being used for a headliner. I know I don't like the tiers!! I think the whole thing stinks. I feel like it's a major step backwards in our way of touring the parks, while costing more money. I was told in another post that we're all paying more for gas so I guess it should be ok for prices to rise while getting less, except I'm still getting a full gallon!
 
Sorry that I have to really disagree that it's impossible to judge or understand FP+ before I use it. I know that I don't like only 3 FP s a day and one for being used for a headliner. I know I don't like the tiers!! I think the whole thing stinks. I feel like it's a major step backwards in our way of touring the parks, while costing more money. I was told in another post that we're all paying more for gas so I guess it should be ok for prices to rise while getting less, except I'm still getting a full gallon!

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