Not sure if this has been discussed before

[Lewisc]

You had choices. You could have read a book. You could have looked out of the window. You could have watched your own movie. You could have slept....

You didn't have to look across the aisle and view another passengers movie. A brief glance would have been enough to know to look the other way. Many movies have at least one brief scene many people find offensive. Sex. Violence. How many times when you watch a movie do you close your eyes for one brief scene?

Perhaps you should have taken even longer to think before responding. I was sitting across the aisle and back one row from the person with the laptop. I had a nice full view without even trying. So did my son who was sitting directly behind me (maybe not QUITE as good-but good enough). I would really appreciate if any subsequent posters would just take my word about the view I had--I really don't want to address it again.

I am sorry you are so bothered by my wanting to protect the innocence of my younger children. I assume it would be against some policy for my fellow passengers to engage in sexual behavior in the aisle across from our family. Odd, isn't it, how the same moving behaviors on a computer screen shouldn't raise an eyebrow?

 

[bavaria]

Children are not a trump card.

Not everything has to be a crisis and debate.

Did you forget where you are??

On a serious note, however, this is a discussion board, not a 'post only if you agree with me board'. It would appear that the OP, like many others, came looking for validation instead of information, and is not happy with the results.

Frankly, there is a lot of information on this thread, which may in fact help others. To summarize

1. there is no rule against reading or viewing sex/nudity/violence on an aircraft
2. there was a bill which failed to pass in the US but it dealt with violence and children, not sex and/or nudity
3. Playboy can be read on an airplane, and is often read on an airplane
4. there is a company in CA which does most of the post-production edits for airlines, cruise ships, and other public venues, and censors based on the request of each individual client/airline etc
5. movies shown on overhead screens may be censored differently than movies shown on AVOD; movies shown on international flights may be censored differently than movies shown on domestic flights

Not one person here has mocked the OP or derided her for her beliefs. Several have however tried to explain why one person's beliefs shouldn't be allowed to set the standard in a public place, and many of us have given suggestions on how to handle this situation in future.

I used to enjoy posting here, because I learned things and was able to share knowledge. Many of the very regular posters here do not agree - look back to page 1 where the learned professor and I disagree. Neither of us went crying to Mom. In fact, Lewisc and I tend to disagree more than we agree, but over the years I have enjoyed the discussion we have had both on line and off line on various websites. That to me is more interesting and more challenging than just coming here and agreeing with everyone.

The reality is that when one posts ones beliefs on a public message board, one opens oneself up to differing opinions. And that is why I tend to stick to facts and information, although I did in fact share my beliefs here with the OP in an effort to explain my viewpoint.

Sadly, this thread has become like so many others - an interesting discussion has turned unpleasant because not everyone agreed with the OP.

 

[crashbb]

1. there is no rule against sex/nudity/violence on an aircraft
   

While you might, technically be right (though in terms of violence I am sure that you are not), I think you might mean:

there is no rule against watching/reading something with sex/nudity/violence on an aircraft

Unless you do things differently on Lufthansa!

 

[bavaria]

While you might, technically be right (though in terms of violence I am sure that you are not), I think you might mean:

there is no rule against watching/reading something with sex/nudity/violence on an aircraft

Unless you do things differently on Lufthansa!

Well, at least one (American, male) poster here admitted to wearing something awfully close to nudity on aircraft in past. And I have shared my story in past of the mama on LH who performed a strip tease for her baby, complete with her own singalong accompaniament and dance moves. Fortunately the purser did stop her before she reached the critical stage.

On a more serious note, you are correct - there IS a rule against violence on an aircraft. I didn't want to bring this up, but if OP or anyone else becomes confrontational in defending their beliefs, they may well find themselves escorted off the aircraft (or denied boarding if they do so in the boarding area)

I often caution against making a public scene precisely because I HAVE seen people doing this and I HAVE seen people removed from aircraft many times in my flying past. And usually it is not the person who is considered offensive, but the person displaying outrage and expecting others to conform to their beliefs.

 

[Lewisc]

[*]there is no rule against sex/nudity/violence on an aircraft

Actually there is a rule against nudity on an aircraft.

http://wcbstv.com/local/naked.man.on.2.1067974.html

A naked passenger refused to put his clothing back on. The plane made an unscheduled stop so the passenger could be deplaned and arrested.

I agree with Bavaria most of the time. I think she should ignore a no nut announcement rather then passing out from lack of suitable food.
I understand the OP is frustrated. She made a point she thought was valid and most of the posters don't agree with her.

 

[bavaria]

Actually there is a rule against nudity on an aircraft

I fixed it - see my edit....

And yet again, Lewisc disagrees with me - thank you for proving my point.

 

[TDC Nala]

anybody see the news story about the guy who took all his clothes off on a US Airways flight to LA on Tuesday and then refused to put them back on? He got the plane diverted to Albuquerque so they could arrest him.

Another passenger apparently took a picture of him and posted it on the Internet. So when all the airlines get wifi in flight, then there will be passengers on planes looking at photos of people who got naked on planes.

 

[bavaria]

Actually there is a rule against nudity on an aircraft.

http://wcbstv.com/local/naked.man.on.2.1067974.html

To be serious again... that is one reason why I do not advise people to take medication to calm themselves on a flight. (A family friend died doing so recently) There are also many instances of public urination on aircraft after people took Ambien, and I am quite certain that nobody wants to wake up finding themselves crouched in the aisle relieving themselves.

Does anyone know what the most common theme was in airline safety in the few years until September 10th, 2001? Air rage.

Air rage used to be a huge topic as people became entitled and started to treat other passengers and crew in an unacceptable fashion (either verbally or physically) That vitually ended the next day and for several years thereafter.

Now we are starting to see more instances of air rage and airlines are holding firm and are deplaning passengers. I have had overly enthusiastic college students deplaned for cheering or chanting - not a cheerleading team, but just three (most likely pleasant normally) young men who were excited about the end of term and were too loud and didn't quiet down when asked.

So while one may not agree with what others are doing, on board an aircraft one must especially consider the ramifications of lodging a protest. Better to do as our esteemed moderator suggested and use it as a teachable moment, or do as many of us suggested and look elsewhere.

 

[bavaria]

Another passenger apparently took a picture of him and posted it on the Internet. So when all the airlines get wifi in flight, then there will be passengers on planes looking at photos of people who got naked on planes.

A few years ago FAs actually asked AA to block porn on the wifi http://news.cnet.com/8601-1035_3-10040894-1.html?communityId=2107&targetCommunityId=2107&blogId=94

So as technology expands, expect more opportunities for people to be offended. LH had wifi for years, and I recall not one issue with porn or offense. I do recall many times however being annoyed with people using Skype to make endless inane conversations - just as bad as being trapped with someone on a bus on a cel phone ('Yup, we just passed 4th Street. Now we're at 5th Street. 6th Street is coming up...')

 

[TDC Nala]

A few years ago FAs actually asked AA to block porn on the wifi http://news.cnet.com/8601-1035_3-10040894-1.html?communityId=2107&targetCommunityId=2107&blogId=94

So as technology expands, expect more opportunities for people to be offended. LH had wifi for years, and I recall not one issue with porn or offense. I do recall many times however being annoyed with people using Skype to make endless inane conversations - just as bad as being trapped with someone on a bus on a cel phone ('Yup, we just passed 4th Street. Now we're at 5th Street. 6th Street is coming up...')

The local equivalent is the cell phones that come out as soon as the Metro train leaves the tunnel: "I'm at East Falls Church. I'm at West Falls Church. I'm halfway between West Falls Church and Dunn Loring. I'm at Dunn Loring."

 

[Brian Noble]

So as technology expands, expect more opportunities for people to be offended.

Nonsense. It's perfectly possible to cache porn. No active network connection required.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

For those that do travel with laptops and watch movies:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/.../?WT.mc_id=laptop_screen_protection&WT.srch=1

I started using these types of film on my work laptop, so that I could read, and write reports without everyone being able to read also.

And then I got one for DW's computer so that she could watch movies on her laptop without being viewed by the seat next to her.

plus it protects the screen.

 

[bavaria]

ARGH! Good to see you - I have missed you..

And I have nothing against pirates, even if they are rather violent at times (although I will admit that I haven't seen the POTC movies, not out of protest towards violence but due to lack of interest)

Sex and the City will be downloaded shortly, however - thanks Mom for the recommendation!

And here is a note of irony (on so many levels).... Carolina_Yankee and I enjoyed watching MI-5 earlier this year. We reached the final series and I told him that I was out - too much violence for me, and there is enough in the real world. So no matter how much I want to know the outcome, he and his partner are watching it without my participation.

I highly doubt that he will mock me for my beliefs; in fact, he said that he understood why I switched to 1970's American television instead. So my personal boundaries when it comes to violence are actually different than those of a man of the cloth. I have no issue with that - he is human first. And I enjoy the discussions we do have even though he is yet another person with whom I often disagree.

Essentially, this thread comes down to two things - personal boundaries and respect for others. And as I have often said here in the past, respect goes two ways. So maybe it is time to respect the beliefs of others, even if you don't agree with them. That may mean letting people watch what they want to watch, instead of asking or demanding that they turn it off.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

This past December when my family and I were flying Air Canada and they now have an entertainment system in your seats with various choices of movies, tv shows and comedy entertainers. If your seating in Business Class head phones are free and there is a cost in Economy. Now for example one of the movie options was the Dark Night, some the tv show options were Two and a Half Men and Sex and the City. Finally the comedy comedy entertainer was Chris Rock and he used a lot of foul language, however since you needed headphones to hear it no little kids could hear the things he said. Although what if someone was watching an episode of Sex and the City and a little kid happen to see a scene they should not have, should the person be watching it get yelled at since it was Air Canada's choice to have it as an option for someone to watch? I guess the same thing can be said about the Dark Night which also had it's fair share of violence.

Also when flying WestJet they have live sattelite tv and since it's live nothing can be edited. They also have movies you can watch, however unlike the sattelite tv the movies cost extra to watch. Finally there is a cost purchasing their headphones, however they also say you have your own then they will work on the flight.

 

[blissventure]

Essentially, this thread comes down to two things - personal boundaries and respect for others. And as I have often said here in the past, respect goes two ways. So maybe it is time to respect the beliefs of others, even if you don't agree with them. That may mean letting people watch what they want to watch, instead of asking or demanding that they turn it off.

OK, now you've done it. You're making way too much sense!
As you point out, we can choose to respecting the beliefs of others even if we don't agree with them by just being politely tolerant.

No on "has" to look at another person's screen.
There's always have the option to shop in the SkyMall (as mentioned earlier in this thread). Where else can you buy a litter box that is "disguised" as a plastic potted plant??

 

[kaytieeldr]

Um, won't that ultimately confuse the cat?

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Um, won't that ultimately confuse the cat?

Perhaps, but it WILL get kitty used to using all of your house plants as a rest stop!!

 

[goofy4tink]

Dear God people...is it a full moon?????

 

[Brian Noble]

Almost. Another day or two.
http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phases/phasenow.php

 

[CPT Tripss]

Dear God people...is it a full moon?????

Or maybe the combination of Grumpy Pirate and Bavaria - watching who knows what behind their 3M Privacy Screens.