Norway College Program kids alerted to pavilion closing?

[kylmac]

My son's favorite ride is Maelstrom (he is autistic) and my great grandfather was from Norway. I will be sad when I go make FP for our December trip and can't get them. At least I have my bottle of Laila!
Elizabeth

 

[lugnut33]

Keep Norway, or expand the theme to include all Scandinavian countries. Then build a new area at Hollywood Studios for Frozen that includes an e-ticket attraction. It's not like Disney doesn't have the money to upgrade a small area in World Showcase and build a new area in HS (which really is lacking in attractions).

 

[hopemax]

Disney would never do it, but technically there is a "country space" between Mexico and Norway. Since it doesn't look like any additional real world countries are coming anytime soon, they could theoretically build Arendelle next door to Norway.

Not that I want to defile World Showcase in that manner anymore than I want Frozen in Maelstrom, but building Arendelle as a fully developed concept a la Diagon Alley behind London could be beneficial for both guests and Disney. They should do it in MK, but given new Fantasyland I think MK development is done for the foreseeable future. Hollywood Studios would be the next possibility but poor park placement doesn't give much room for expansion, and Star Wars would probably take priority, and if they flesh out the back with more Pixar. They could add an arctic area to AK, but Avatar. So if they are gonna put the darn thing in Epcot anyway, they could at least do it right and use the unused country space that exists and go big with it.

 

[Lehuaann]

Now wait just a minute. Here's something I hadn't thought of. Laila. Will we still be able to purchase Laila? Will the pavilion still smell of Laila? These are things I must know.

If it's not going to be avail at Norway, I saw Laila perfume/body collection at DTD last month. I think was at TrenD over by WoD.

 

[MelliJ]

I love laila too! As a backup, Nordstrum has been selling it for years.

 

[Sandy321]

I love laila too! As a backup, Nordstrum has been selling it for years.

as does Amazon!

 

[Sherrkel]

Ok so the speculation about the Norway potential refurb may include Akershus? Uh oh, we were going to try for an ADR for my 4 y/o DNiecey who loves the princesses, since CRT will be under refurb while we are there (Feb). If Akershus does close down temporarily, and it runs in to Feb, and the CRT refurb dates, that would be very poor planning. Whats the backup? 1900 Park Fare?

Of course we'll miss Maelstrom if this does come to pass, and Kringla bakery maybe too?

Oh Disney why are you doing this to us, don't you know it's all about my plans, don't you know you're suppose to check with me first??

 

[Mad Hattered]

 

[MuddyTires]

I really don't think any of us are the target audience -

kids will be thrilled to have Frozen in Norway.

Thank you. It's funny that so many seem to get bent out of shape over Frozen's popularity and decry the phenomenon it's become. First, like most things, everyone's tastes differ. But more importantly, the "hype" comes from the children who fell in love with it. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that kids probably have some different preferences for their entertainment and movies than adults.

 

[MuddyTires]

Incorrect.

Lego Land is targeted at children. Disney World is targeted at all ages. Just because children generally love it does not mean it is exclusively for them.

The poster was talking about Frozen the movie, not Disney World.

 

[MuddyTires]

Here you Go.....

Top Grossing Disney Films Adjusted for inflation and Rank (list as of 12/31/2013) from the top 200 films list..

#10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs $888,350,000 1937 [
#18 The Lion King $726,543,200 1994
#22 Fantasia $676,804,300 1941
#25 Mary Poppins $637,181,300 1964
#30 The Jungle Book $600,491,300 1967
#31 Sleeping Beauty $592,309,900 1959
#39 Pinnochio $549,337,200 1940
#46 Pirates of the Caribbean – Dead Man’s Chest $526,721,200 2006
#48 Bambi $519,256,200 1942
#53 Finding Nemo $502,234,700 2003
#70 Lady and the Tramp $454,239,300
#83 Swiss Family Robinson $438,535,200 1960
#89 Aladdin $427,405,100 1992
#90 Toy Story 3 $425,445,300 2010
#95 Pirates of the Caribbean-Curse of the Black Pearl $412,788,500 2003
#100 Monsters Inc. $402,241,400 1989
As of the end of 2013, Frozen was #101

Some of the highest grossing box office films as adjusted for inflation have never had a ride associated with them. Some have not even had a temporary attraction or Meet and Greet.

This list is taken from a list of 200 of the highest grossing box office films as adjusted for inflation. I didn't list past 100 except the "Frozen" notation. I don't think I can post the link. But a google search worked. It is an interesting list. A whole bunch of films featured at US/IOA are also in there. I do like movie tie-ins to theme park attractions...

BUT NOT IN WORLD SHOWCASE.

There are a lot of attractions and meet and greets in that list.

Also, many of those movies have had multiple releases over periods of years to drive up totals. As the site says:

Most pre-1980 pictures achieved their totals through multiple releases, especially Disney animated features which made much of their totals in the past few decades belying their original release dates in terms of adjustment. For example, Snow White has made $118,328,683 of its unadjusted $184,925,486 total since 1983.

 

[Planogirl]

Now people are justifying Frozen going into World Showcase because it will appeal to kids. So? Does everything have to be about kids or more specifically mostly girls?

Not that that would really matter in our case. DS enjoyed Epcot at every age so it is possible for kids to have fun doing something that doesn't involve princesses.

 

[Jennasis]

There are a lot of attractions and meet and greets in that list.

Also, many of those movies have had multiple releases over periods of years to drive up totals. As the site says:

Frozen IS popular. No doubt. We can debate all day whether it was a good movie or a meh movie.

I just don't think it has ANY business replacing Norway in World Showcase. Maybe we'll get "lucky" and it will be something like the characters guiding us on a tour of Norway...REAL Norway.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Some of the highest grossing box office films as adjusted for inflation have never had a ride associated with them. Some have not even had a temporary attraction or Meet and Greet.

#10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs $888,350,000 1937Snow has meet and greets, had her own attraction, now the dwarfs have an attraction, plus the fountain/wishing well area at DLR
#18 The Lion King $726,543,200 1994Festival of the Lion King, plus an actual Broadway musical
#22 Fantasia $676,804,300 1941 Fantasmic, Fantasia Mini Golf, Sorcerer Mickey meet and greets..
#25 Mary Poppins $637,181,300 1964 Meet and Greets both at WDW and DLR, a broadway musical
#30 The Jungle Book $600,491,300 1967 Meet and Greets at AK
#31 Sleeping Beauty $592,309,900 1959 Meet and Greets in multiple parks, the DLR castle, the DLR castle walkthrough attraction, the DLP castle..
#39 Pinnochio $549,337,200 1940 A dark ride at DLR, plus Monstro's appearance in Storybook Canal Boats at DLR, parade appearances..
#46 Pirates of the Caribbean – Dead Man’s Chest $526,721,200 2006 Movies were based on the ride
#48 Bambi $519,256,200 1942 No full attraction or meet and greet here, but there are appearances in World of Color at DLR and Fantasmic in DHS
#53 Finding Nemo $502,234,700 2003 An entire pavilion at Epcot, plus the Finding Nemo subs at DLR..
#70 Lady and the Tramp $454,239,300 Not an attraction, but there is Tony's Town Square restaurant..
#83 Swiss Family Robinson $438,535,200 1960 The Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse..
#89 Aladdin $427,405,100 1992 The Magic Carpets of Aladdin, the Aladdin musical at DCA, the broadway musical of Aladdin
#90 Toy Story 3 $425,445,300 2010 Meet and Greets, TSMM, Buzz Lightyear...
#95 Pirates of the Caribbean-Curse of the Black Pearl $412,788,500 2003 Movies based on the ride...plus there have been meet and greets, as well as a Jack Sparrow show..
#100 Monsters Inc. $402,241,400 1989 Meet and Greets, as well as an attraction at DCA..

Actually, most of these movies have been represented at some point in the parks...Bambi is really the only movie on there with very little presence ever in the parks.

I do agree that Frozen should have a place in the parks, but as the quoted poster said..not in world showcase!!

 

[epcotty]

"You are not the first to pass this way, but you may be the last!" I hope this doesn't happen either, it would completely go against the whole concept of World Showcase, it is just not the place

 

[Mad Hattered]

Domestic analysis only - adjusted for inflation...

Average ticket price in 1994 - $4.18
Average ticket price in 2013 - $8.13

The Lion King - $726,543,300 = 173,814,186 tickets sold
Frozen - $400,738,009 = 49,291,268 ticket sold

That is a difference of 124,522,918 domestic tickets sold. That is 124.5 MILLION MORE TICKETS SOLD!!!. If you want to get technical, The Lion King was released again in 3D in 2011 so that adds about 8 million tickets to it's total sold. But then Frozen was released with a 3D version in it's initial release. Lets just call that a wash (although it still favors LK ticket sales).

So based on the above...should we expect a Lion King ride taking over the African Outpost next? (not that there is anything wrong with that)

The last time I checked we have FOTLK and some M&G to represent The Lion King. Frozen has the doubled up M&G in that Princessy place that replaced Snow White, a fireworks show, a sing-a-long, a skating rink and a place to buy all things Frozen.

Personally, I would rather have a Wall-E attraction in Tomorrowland. It teaches a good message and has a positive vibe to it. Unless of course you can't look past that whole gliding around life while slurping your lunch thing.

 

[huhwhat]

#48 Bambi


maybe they could put Bambi running across Test Track during the brake test !!

 

[Mad Hattered]

#48 Bambi


maybe they could put Bambi running across Test Track during the brake test !!

But outline Bambi in neon orange lights so it would fit into "Future World".

 

[BugsDaddy]

I love WS but I also think it is very low on culture and high on gift shop and food and liquor sales. I think that if people are considering WS an educational experience, they need to get out of the country more and go and experience real culture.

Bottom line is, people just do not like change of any kind.

 

[Mad Hattered]

I love WS but I also think it is very low on culture and high on gift shop and food and liquor sales. I think that if people are considering WS an educational experience, they need to get out of the country more and go and experience real culture.

Bottom line is, people just do not like change of any kind.

It used to do a much better job of disguising it.

Tapestry of Nations/Dreams anyone? *sigh*

Welcome to reality now.

Was there an outcry when the Remy animatronic showed up in Chefs? Nope. It actually drew more people to the restaurant in the hopes to see the interaction. Yeah....he's gone now.

Bottom line...they changed it.