No hope for World Showcase...

I may be wrong, and please feel free to correct me if I am, but I believe I read on these boards that Disney did conduct a survey this year in World Showcase. They asked what country guests liked the most, which one the least, and what country the guests would like to see added. It may mean nothing but I did find it interesting that Disney would do this if there is nothing down the road.

The survey was only reported on Screamscape and Screamscape will report most anything sent to them - just send them a note saying you're a CM and saw this or that.

It may or may not have happened.

Even if it did, the way it was worded (which WS country would you like to see, which one do you like least) suggests they're looking for areas to improve expand, and unlike say Tomorrowland if you put something in World Showcase it needs to be themed to a specific country. You can't make a ride about norwegian trolls and toss it in China. So if you're hunting for "where" that means you have no viable plans yet, meaning that survey would be at the start of what can be a 6 year research/developement/build cycle. That means taken this year it'd be 2014 or 2016 before anything came as a result of that survey.
 
I don't read at Screamscape and I have seen several reports here on the DIS of people being asked these WS questions as part of a survey, so I'm pretty sure it did happen.

What, if anything, they will do with the information is the unknown. But it sure makes a great wasted hour to read all about it all on this board :rotfl:
 
I don't read at Screamscape and I have seen several reports here on the DIS of people being asked these WS questions as part of a survey, so I'm pretty sure it did happen.

What, if anything, they will do with the information is the unknown. But it sure makes a great wasted hour to read all about it all on this board :rotfl:

Hmm, i didnt see those posts - got a linky..?
 
It doesn't have to close early, but that spin sounds so much better than admitting you built a half-done park with no reason for people to stay into the evening.
I've been to AK in EMH Evening. It doesn't NEED a reason. Its simply beautiful with the plants and trees and lighting, I'm perfectly content just walking around and enjoying the view.
I get tired of the "we gotta feed these tourists thrill rides" mentality. Maybe on paper it makes sense, but as much as I love thrill rides, the thrill rides aren't the whole reason I go there.
Actually, I wish the rides they add at Disney were MORE extreme. The thrill rides at Disney aren't "scary" enough for real thrill seekers as compared to other local parks. If your only at Disney for thrill rides you REALLY need to google the words "extreme coaster". Honestly. Disney rides are LAME when compared to some of the local parks. But again, that's not why we go there.
As far as Epcot, I like it exactly like it is, and if they left it alone and simply maintained it EXACTLY like it is, in 20 years I would still go there. We don't go as often as many of you. We make 3-4 trips a year. If we spend 8 days at Disney, you can bet 4-5 of those days we will be in Epcot. We will go there if they add new countries and thrill rides, and we will go there (just as much) if they don't. Half our extreme home is ideas we got from Epcot. Over half out time is spent at Epcot, and half our money in the parks is spent at Epcot. Epcot has the best restaurants BY FAR, and the second best shopping (second to MK). Like Mitros said. Its a cash cow that stays packed. They don't really need to do anything to it. So if it's true or not, makes no difference to me either way. If they add new attractions, great! If they don't GREAT!

One more thing to consider. The thrill rides look great on brochures and on the websites. I have been to Disney like 19 times. I have NEVER been to Universal. If Universal expanded to 10 times it's size I still wouldn't go. I'm NOT a Harry Potter fan, and I simply don't like the "anti-disney" advertising. I feel like Disney thinks it has to keep cramming more thrill rides to keep up (or stay on top). I realize in a small sense that's true, but most Disney fans are passionate about their favorite place, and as is the norm in my business, word of mouth FAR EXCEEDS any advertisement or website. We Disney fans just can't seem to shut up about how great Disney is. THAT is part of the reason Disney is so big. When you compare us that go often to those that go once every 10 years, I'm sure they make more money off those that go every 10 years. But we keep them open. I can't count the number of times I heard someone say they went in July and spent 10 times what i would have spent, and hated the whole "hot and crowded" trip. They usually follow with "I'll never go back!". I'm thinking "You should have done more research and listened to those of us who tried to warn you!!!".
 

Do you even realize that in the Epcot you "love" and want to stay the same for 20 years that none of Future World as we know it existed prior to 1996?

Energy is the oldest having been redone in 1996. Everything else is 1999 or newer. 2003 for M:S, 2005 Soarin, 2006 Nemo, 2007 Spaceship Earth.

The park you love is only any good because it constantly changes.
 
I liked a lot of the old Future world attractions

And WS is my fave night time place in WDW-I just like to stroll around it:)
 
I've also read about the survey. If I would guess, I would say the next possible country will be either Brazil or Russia. Disney has reportedly been in early discussions about a South America Disneyland in Rio. It seems that they want all of their theme park hosting countries to be represented at EPCOT. I also read at Theme Park Insider that the Beastly Kingdom rumor is back for AK. This is reportedly in reaction to Harry Potter. A Star Wars land is also rumored for DHS.:hippie:
 
I've also read about the survey. If I would guess, I would say the next possible country will be either Brazil or Russia. Disney has reportedly been in early discussions about a South America Disneyland in Rio. It seems that they want all of their theme park hosting countries to be represented at EPCOT. I also read at Theme Park Insider that the Beastly Kingdom rumor is back for AK. This is reportedly in reaction to Harry Potter. A Star Wars land is also rumored for DHS.:hippie:

Hey, it would be great if Disney would build a theme park in Brazil! That would keep those unbeleivably rude Brazilians that make their way to WDW every year in their own country.:thumbsup2
 
We are not close to a new country but very very close to a few attractions being added to existing pavilions.

I love the WS and would be thrilled to see this happen. I don't want major changes, but some updating would certainly be in order.:goodvibes
 
I love the WS and would be thrilled to see this happen. I don't want major changes, but some updating would certainly be in order.:goodvibes

So you're opposed to the Russia annex replacing the Outpost with a stage for live performances, a dark ride, and restaurants and even a little off-shoot of the main lagoon into it's own massive themed courtyard flanked by onion domes and turrets?
 
So you're opposed to the Russia annex replacing the Outpost with a stage for live performances, a dark ride, and restaurants and even a little off-shoot of the main lagoon into it's own massive themed courtyard flanked by onion domes and turrets?

Nope, not opposed to anything. I must correct myself and say that I don't require major changes, but I would welcome them if that is indeed what will someday happen.

:rolleyes1
 
Just talked to some powers that be...

There's no chance of expansion in the World Showcase beyond restaurants and retail. At all. Period. The company has essentially given up on the concept.

No new pavilions, no new rides or shows in existing pavilions.


And, now I have to ask you, how can you make this statement followed by the statements questioning my previous post? :confused3
 
And, now I have to ask you, how can you make this statement followed by the statements questioning my previous post? :confused3

One is what they said, the other is what I'd like them to do.

Russia was proposed years ago and developed - it's a long since dead "blue sky" idea though.

The problem is that the bean counters that be, are busy being by means of looking at your statement and seeing it not as "I like it, but welcome improvements" but rather "don't change anything or I wont like it." The quite literally use that sort guest feedback to justify never expanding the area.
 
The OUTPOST area is very sad looking, it would be nice to see Disney offer this as a place for short term VISITOR countries on a rotational basis. It could be like a miniature concept of the Millennium Village. The way it looks now, is like Disney ran out of money or Imagineering Ideas. Walt would be yelling !

But the one thing that would make me want to visit WDW EPCOT say 3 times a year instead of once, is to reinstate the TAPESTRY OF NATIONS parade, or something like it. I would pay a surcharge to see that parade, and I would cherish every performance I could go to see again and again. I somehow doubt a new country or a new ride would make me ache to repeat EPCOT as much as I loved that parade.

If I had a choice of going to either the front of the line at any EPCOT ride, or to see a performance of TAPESTRY OF NATIONS, I would pick the latter, the parade's good feeling lasted a lot longer than a thrill ride experience.

EPCOT needs a special parade again !

Phil
 
Ummm, Disney is spending a BILLION dollars on a park right now... just not Epcot. They can't go around blowing money on everyone's wishes and ideas. Eventually Epcot will be revamped.

I'd recommend that everyone here plan a trip to Disneyland because that place is awesome.
 
I'd recommend that everyone here plan a trip to Disneyland because that place is awesome.

Now this I totally and wholeheartedly agree with. DL is so much better than WDW that, aside from F&W, I don't even get excited about WDW.
 
One is what they said, the other is what I'd like them to do.

Russia was proposed years ago and developed - it's a long since dead "blue sky" idea though.

The problem is that the bean counters that be, are busy being by means of looking at your statement and seeing it not as "I like it, but welcome improvements" but rather "don't change anything or I wont like it." The quite literally use that sort guest feedback to justify never expanding the area.

Well if the bean counters want to sit down and talk to me, I'd be glad to give them my opinion. No one has ever asked me. Yes, I like the WS, but update it, add to it, refresh it and I could LOVE it.
 


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