NO Flash Photography!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ironz]

OK, so I understand the no flash photography on dark rides...completely understand the flashing could ruin the effect and experience, but the small screens on video cameras, c'mon, seriously? Not because it isn't allowed by DISNEY (you know, the ones in charge) but because it 'distracts' or is a personal annoyance? Tough dog doodie.

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How about you go sit in a dark ride/theater where you can hardly see what is going on in the attraction because there are dozens of lights in between you and the attraction? It also ruins the effect, because your eyes are naturally drawn to the lights. You can try to look away or look over them, but your pupils are still picking up that light source and contracting, so you can't see as well in the dark to see the attraction. It's a physiologic response.
And can certainly be compared to affecting the attraction much like flash photography, as the dark rides were not designed to be ridden through with a light in the vehicle.

No, I won't yell at people for it, because it isn't prohibited. I'm just reminding people to be courteous about this practice when they can (i.e., if they can turn off the screen and use the viewfinder), because most are not aware that it does affect the people behind them. I'm sure I've been guilty of it at times as well.

Your "tough xxx" comment was a little out of line.
And your comparing it to complaints about children, etc. have nothing to do with this thread.

 

[BamaFan121s]

How about you go sit in a dark ride/theater where you can hardly see what is going on in the attraction because there are dozens of lights in between you and the attraction? It also ruins the effect, because your eyes are naturally drawn to the lights. You can try to look away or look over them, but your pupils are still picking up that light source and contracting, so you can't see as well in the dark to see the attraction. It's a physiologic response.
And can certainly be compared to affecting the attraction much like flash photography, as the dark rides were not designed to be ridden through with a light in the vehicle.

No, I won't yell at people for it, because it isn't prohibited. I'm just reminding people to be courteous about this practice when they can (i.e., if they can turn off the screen and use the viewfinder), because most are not aware that it does affect the people behind them. I'm sure I've been guilty of it at times as well.

Your "tough xxx" comment was a little out of line.
And your comparing it to complaints about children, etc. have nothing to do with this thread.

Firstly, there was nothing obscene or vulgar in my comment, despite your attempt to make it seem so...but anyway...

Thank you for helping to prove my point : Seems like people will find something to complain about and a way to justify why they are within their right to do so. Even if it is not disallowed by Disney. I think we all try to be courteous, but there is just no pleasing everyone. The best we can do follow DISNEY'S guidelines and *try* not to offend those bound and determined to make themselves and those around them miserable.

 

[GrowingUpDisney]

I have been guilty of flash photography in POTC by accident. I thought I had turned my flash off and was trying out a new camera. Apparently, the flash was not turned off. HOWEVER, as soon as I saw the flash go off, I put my camera away. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt for the FIRST picture...if they continue to flash I will say "no flash photography" aloud and they usually take the hint.

 

[TDC Nala]

OK, so I understand the no flash photography on dark rides...completely understand the flashing could ruin the effect and experience, but the small screens on video cameras, c'mon, seriously? Not because it isn't allowed by DISNEY (you know, the ones in charge) but because it 'distracts' or is a personal annoyance? Tough dog doodie

If you are in the Haunted Mansion stretch room with one, you may be asked by the CM watching the room to turn the screen off. I have seen that happen more than once.

 

[eyor44]

May I apologize now for taking a couple pics on the Winnie-the-Pooh ride approximately 8 years ago. I did it for a friend who will never be able to visit WDW, but wanted to see what was in the ride. The pics turned out okay.

 

[Robo]

May I apologize now for taking a couple pics on the Winnie-the-Pooh ride approximately 8 years ago. I did it for a friend who will never be able to visit WDW, but wanted to see what was in the ride. The pics turned out okay.

There is no photography restriction in Winnie the Pooh that I know of.

No flash units in use on a dark ride is a good rule-of-thimb.

 

[ironz]

Firstly, there was nothing obscene or vulgar in my comment, despite your attempt to make it seem so...but anyway...

Thank you for helping to prove my point : Seems like people will find something to complain about and a way to justify why they are within their right to do so. Even if it is not disallowed by Disney. I think we all try to be courteous, but there is just no pleasing everyone. The best we can do follow DISNEY'S guidelines and *try* not to offend those bound and determined to make themselves and those around them miserable.

You used the words obscene and vulgar. I didn't. I just said it was out of line.

I don't look for things to complain about. I have a great time at Disney! I even smile at children! Why are you picking on me for bringing this to people's attention...many of them probably do not realize how bright their screens are to people behind them, when in a dark room? I never said it ruined a trip, or even ruined a ride.

I'm just agreeing with a PP that people might need reminding that their lights may affect other people in a ride, just as a flash might.

You're trying to make this a personal attack, and I really don't appreciate it.

 

[glitterkittyy]

We were behind people video taping (with the LCD screen open) at the Nemo show, and the CMs did come over (repeatedly) and tell the people it wasn't allowed because it was disturbing others. The people would shut their LCD screen and then as soon as the CM went around the corner, they'd open it back up then the CM would come back. The whole thing was disruptive. We ended up leaving mid-performance. Between the screen glaring in the dark (and it was too bright for those behind it) and the CM and visitor arguing over it, we felt out of the mood to see the show.

 

[Conan the Librarian]

The thing about using the screen to video is that it is totally unnecessary. I have a camera that has the pop-out screen. I never use it except to change settings (my Sony camera has great low-light viewing). The view finder is much better for taking photos and videos with. The screen eats up your battery power and it makes the user look like the 'kid in the Goofy mask'.

Be considerate of others. If you are in a dark ride, keep it dark! The world will not end if you don't get a photo of Jack Sparrow for the eleventy millionth time.

 

[Conan the Librarian]

We were behind people video taping (with the LCD screen open) at the Nemo show, and the CMs did come over (repeatedly) and tell the people it wasn't allowed because it was disturbing others. The people would shut their LCD screen and then as soon as the CM went around the corner, they'd open it back up then the CM would come back. The whole thing was disruptive. We ended up leaving mid-performance. Between the screen glaring in the dark (and it was too bright for those behind it) and the CM and visitor arguing over it, we felt out of the mood to see the show.

It gratifies me to note that in the Nemo show the CMs do make the effort to stop flashes and other rude behavior. I do know they can't always stop it, but, they do better than the folks at other shows at the World.


One other point, if you absolutely must take photos or video in the dark rides, get a Sony or other brand with near-infrared capability. ALL the dark rides and shows are flooded with NIR light (those dark-red lights on the TTA in Space Mountain are a good example), so the CM running the show can see everything you do. No need for flash at all with that.

The following are links to photos I took with no flash and no side viewer...

Princess and Pirate Party 2007

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0IZuGTRuxasXYQ

 

[glitterkittyy]

It gratifies me to note that in the Nemo show the CMs do make the effort to stop flashes and other rude behavior. I do know they can't always stop it, but, they do better than the folks at other shows at the World.

Just want to be clear that I, in no way, am blaming the CM for the disruption. She tried her best to get people to comply. They were just very intent on doing what they wanted no matter what.

 

[Robo]

The thing about using the screen to video is that it is totally unnecessary... The view finder is much better for taking photos and videos with.

Unless the guest has one of THESE.

No viewfinder at all, only the fully-exposed and back-lit LCD screen.

 

[WillCAD]

I've always found it hillarious to read posts where people complain about people complaining, and get all uptight while they're telling everybody else that their complaints about annoying people are annoying. Honestly, I wonder why some people read the DIS at all, since they seem so upset over the upset people on the DIS.

But, back to the original topic - flash pics on most dark rides are forbidden by Disney policy. Flash pics not only light up the ride and ruin the illusion, they also ruin the night vision of nearby Guests, making it impossible for those Guests to see anything for a second or two. My lens simply isn't capable of getting really good shots on a moving, dark ride; however, I have never taken a flash photo on any dark ride, and I never will, despite my burning desire to get good shots on POTC.

 

[BamaFan121s]

You used the words obscene and vulgar. I didn't. I just said it was out of line.

I don't look for things to complain about. I have a great time at Disney! I even smile at children! Why are you picking on me for bringing this to people's attention...many of them probably do not realize how bright their screens are to people behind them, when in a dark room? I never said it ruined a trip, or even ruined a ride.

I'm just agreeing with a PP that people might need reminding that their lights may affect other people in a ride, just as a flash might.

You're trying to make this a personal attack, and I really don't appreciate it.

Generally when people type out 'XXX' as you did, is is to replace something obscene or vulgar, hence why I interpreted it that way.

No, I'm not trying to make it personal nor was I picking on you or anyone else for that matter. I thought that was evident when I typed 'generally speaking' but apparently I didn't put in enough disclaimers to make that point understood. Unlike yourself, I didn't quote anyone or tell anyone they were out of line or that thier opinion and observations had nothing to do with the thread...at least until you addressed me directly. My feelings on the situation, regarless to who brought it up have NOTHING to do with YOU, just about something that YOU happen to have brought up.

My whole general point, with both my first and second comment which still seems to have been missed is this: Generally speaking, regardless to if they are annoying or not, if Disney does not prohibit them, guests are within their right to use them and those who don't like it have to deal with it, discourteous or not.

 

[Conan the Librarian]

Just want to be clear that I, in no way, am blaming the CM for the disruption. She tried her best to get people to comply. They were just very intent on doing what they wanted no matter what.

No No! I didn't think you were. You sounded like you were quite glad the CM stepped in.

 

[Dallas_Lady]

Generally speaking, I'm beginning to think it would be better to list the things you CAN do on a ride or while in the World--I think the list would be much shorter as it seems there is always going to be someone somewhere who can find fault with just about anything you do, Disney approved or not.

...no pictures, no videos, no children that dare make a noise, no talking, don't sit in front of me if you're tall, you smell bad, you shouldn't use a stroller/wheelchair/ECV, you inhaled too deeply causing the whole ride vehicle to shift and ruin my whole experience...

I think I might have to agree with you.

 

[Conan the Librarian]

Unless the guest has one of THESE.

No viewfinder at all, only the fully-exposed and back-lit LCD screen.

DANG! A camera like that must need a small Nuke plant attached to keep it going more than an hour at a time.

I get 2 to 3 hours out of a charge on my big battery, only 1 hour on the small. I do have to use it carefully.

 

[BamaFan121s]

I've always found it hillarious to read posts where people complain about people complaining, and get all uptight while they're telling everybody else that their complaints about annoying people are annoying. Honestly, I wonder why some people read the DIS at all, since they seem so upset over the upset people on the DIS.

Oooh...now this could be fun. I think it's humerous that people complain about others who don't like the complaining so complain because a complaint...oh dang, I can't do it..you win.

Just kidding, couldn't resist, point taken though.

Honestly though...just don't get why people get upset over things other people do if they are ALLOWED to do it. We all have little things that irk us that are non-issues to the majority, just have to put on your big kid pants and deal with it.

 

[nenner1]

On our last visit the flash photography was awful on PoTC also. Our family was seated in the 2nd row of the boat, behind another family in the 1st row. As we were in line, we were behind a large party of about 8. I was dreading sitting behind them b/c they had about 10 balloons, no kidding. Luckily the very proactive CM assigned them to rows 3 and 4 in the boat behind us.

Now, nothing against folks from other countries but these people did not speak english (or at least maintained they didn't). At least two members of the group were taking flash photos off of opposite sides of the boat (and another was videotaping when I turned to steal a glance). The rest were squealing loudly and hootin' and hollerin' in spanish the entire ride. It really ruined the atmosphere.

Now, we have been on PoTC a gazillion times, so not a big deal for us. The family from the front row however refused to dismbark the boat after the ride, instead telling the cast member that the group in the rear "took flash photography the entire ride" and matter of factly informed the CM at the ride exit that they were remaining in the boat and riding through again.

It was about this point we reached the motorized walkway so I do not know for sure if the CM made them get out, but I did linger by the shop entrance and did not see them come through. I'll tell you what, I would have love to ride through the backstage area between the ride debark/embark areas! I was wishing I had refused to get out too!

 

[ChrisFL]

Generally speaking, to hear the way some people describe it, I don't think they would be happy unless they were the ONLY ones in the park. Honestly, I don't know how people these days are able to leave the house without having a nervous breakdown and assuming the fetal position.

One hot, crowded day at the Disneyland theme park several decades ago, Walt Disney was walking through Sleeping Beauty castle when he turned to his companion and said, "This would be a great place if we could only get rid of all these people."

The person who shared the story with me is someone of unquestioned integrity and someone who truly loved and respected Walt Disney. He was quick to point out to me that this was an atypical remark from Walt. Walt loved people. He loved people coming to his park. However on this day, Walt was as human as the rest of us and this quote will never be incorporated into any official Disney publicity.

from: http://www.mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=ww060927ws

It's just a problem of having a mass of people from all different backgrounds, standards and ideas of how THEIR Disney vacation should be....often that can clash with everyone else's. That's why I prefer to go in less busy times of the year, but quickly realizing that is becoming more difficult to do, at least in MK.

It seems like year round the park is busy now. I just wish more people would follow the rules. I keep reading about people who visit Tokyo Disneyland and how much more respectful everyone there is compared to here, about property, each other, following the rules, etc. Something that just doesn't happen at WDW anymore.