Next DVC resort?

[ClaraOswald]

more typically 4 hours a day... occasionally we will go back to a park, but we tend to do more like... arrive around 10 leave around 2 or 3, go to the room, have the kids nap, go to dinner, etc.

How often do you go to WDW?

We don't go that often so definitely like time in the parks. But going back midday is so nice now that we're DVC. It's great to relax at the resort for a while before heading to one of the parks for a couple hours in the evening.

I don't now how many times we have been to Epcot... and we have yet to ride it...

I haven't been on it yet either. I'm worried it will make me feel sick.

 

[Cfabar1]

How often do you go to WDW?

We don't go that often so definitely like time in the parks. But going back midday is so nice now that we're DVC. It's great to relax at the resort for a while before heading to one of the parks for a couple hours in the evening.



I haven't been on it yet either. I'm worried it will make me feel sick.

It ebbs and flows. Sometimes weekly. Sometimes not for three months.

 

[Brian Noble]

I liked Dueling Dragons better than Hagrid's. (Is that blasphemy? )

Not in my book.

 

[Hubalorian]

I would like a Villians themed DVC resort at the entrance of Villians land at MK. Retheme BLT to heroes and replace Villians lair, move that over to the new resort.

Then make some kind of Villians vs Heroes interactive feature in Magic Kingdom. At the end of the night, make the castle glow a certain color based on who ever won the interactive game. I know this will never happen but thought it would be really cool.

 

[walt34]

Not in my book.

Missed out on dueling dragons but please tell us if it was better than Stardust Racers once you've been on it.

 

[Brian Noble]

It's been a LONG TIME since I was on Dragons. My recollection is that they were a pair of better-than-average B&M inverts.

 

[Chili327]

How often do you go to WDW?

We don't go that often so definitely like time in the parks. But going back midday is so nice now that we're DVC. It's great to relax at the resort for a while before heading to one of the parks for a couple hours in the evening.



I haven't been on it yet either. I'm worried it will make me feel sick.

It's really not bad, it's very smooth. Maybe try it at the end of your day, just in case you need to relax for a while after, but I don't think many people get sick from it.

I would like a Villians themed DVC resort at the entrance of Villians land at MK. Retheme BLT to heroes and replace Villians lair, move that over to the new resort.

Then make some kind of Villians vs Heroes interactive feature in Magic Kingdom. At the end of the night, make the castle glow a certain color based on who ever won the interactive game. I know this will never happen but thought it would be really cool.

Love that idea!!

 

[Patmcpsu]

I would like a Villians themed DVC resort at the entrance of Villians land at MK. Retheme BLT to heroes and replace Villians lair, move that over to the new resort.

Then make some kind of Villians vs Heroes interactive feature in Magic Kingdom. At the end of the night, make the castle glow a certain color based on who ever won the interactive game. I know this will never happen but thought it would be really cool.

I have no interest in a villains hotel, but if there's a Villains Land and the MK hotels are each supposed to reflect a MK land, a villians hotel would fit the pattern. But BLT is an extension of the Contemporary and the Contemporary is Tomorrow Land. There's also not a Heroes land in the park.

I'm going to get flak for indirectly saying "Disney is for kids", but generally speaking:

• Magic Kingdom should be for elementary schoolers and younger
• Hollywood Studios should be for middle schoolers
• Epcot should be for high schoolers and older
• Animal Kingdom is for anyone who likes animals

If this was Sim City, I would drag-and-drop Toy Story Land to MK, and build Villians Land in HS. I would then build a Toy Story (or Pixar) themed hotel in the MK area.

 

[Carouselofplanning]

I have no interest in a villains hotel, but if there's a Villains Land and the MK hotels are each supposed to reflect a MK land, a villians hotel would fit the pattern. But BLT is an extension of the Contemporary and the Contemporary is Tomorrow Land. There's also not a Heroes land in the park.

I'm going to get flak for indirectly saying "Disney is for kids", but generally speaking:

• Magic Kingdom should be for elementary schoolers and younger
• Hollywood Studios should be for middle schoolers
• Epcot should be for high schoolers and older
• Animal Kingdom is for anyone who likes animals

If this was Sim City, I would drag-and-drop Toy Story Land to MK, and build Villians Land in HS. I would then build a Toy Story (or Pixar) themed hotel in the MK area.

I’m with you - this villains obsession by theme park adults feels like a trend. It’s bad enough we’re getting a theme park land based off of a trend (started by Universal by the way) and Disney would be way overdoing it with a “villains” hotel adjacent to the Magic Kingdom of all parks. Magic Kingdom is supposed to be the quintessential family theme park, not yet another adult hangout spot. Not that adults shouldn’t hang out at MK, it just shouldn’t target them.

 

[ClaraOswald]

I’m with you - this villains obsession by theme park adults feels like a trend. It’s bad enough we’re getting a theme park land based off of a trend (started by Universal by the way) and Disney would be way overdoing it with a “villains” hotel adjacent to the Magic Kingdom of all parks. Magic Kingdom is supposed to be the quintessential family theme park, not yet another adult hangout spot. Not that adults shouldn’t hang out at MK, it just shouldn’t target them.

Disney follows the money. Disney adults = $$$$.

 

[muppets3d]

I felt like Velocicoaster was doing everything it could to throw me out of the seat the entire ride. I didn't really enjoy it, tbh. Although I do want to ride it again, after eating a few pieces of ginger candy first.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

I have no interest in a villains hotel, but if there's a Villains Land and the MK hotels are each supposed to reflect a MK land, a villians hotel would fit the pattern. But BLT is an extension of the Contemporary and the Contemporary is Tomorrow Land. There's also not a Heroes land in the park.

I'm going to get flak for indirectly saying "Disney is for kids", but generally speaking:

• Magic Kingdom should be for elementary schoolers and younger
• Hollywood Studios should be for middle schoolers
• Epcot should be for high schoolers and older
• Animal Kingdom is for anyone who likes animals

If this was Sim City, I would drag-and-drop Toy Story Land to MK, and build Villians Land in HS. I would then build a Toy Story (or Pixar) themed hotel in the MK area.

I wouldn’t be unhappy about most of these changes, but age is not how Disney conceptualizes the parks (and never was)—they are all supposed to be for the whole family.

Even accepting that framework though, I don’t understand why EPCOT would be the oldest part (especially older than Hollywood Studios), with it’s themes of learning, science, exploration, etc.

But Villains is at least as much for the whole family as Haunted Mansion or Mr. Toad. I tend to agree that the Villains theme is catering to their highest spending core customers (Disney adults) but my daughter has loved Maleficent since she was about 8 and started watching Descendants. Also, OBB has been huge for some time.

Is it what I would do with a whole new land in MK? No, definitely not. If the rides are amazing, I’ll spend time (and LLSP money) there independent of theming (like I do on Tron), and if not, it’ll just be something that pulls rope droppers away from the ride I most want to do.

 

[Carouselofplanning]

I wouldn’t be unhappy about most of these changes, but age is not how Disney conceptualizes the parks (and never was)—they are all supposed to be for the whole family.

Even accepting that framework though, I don’t understand why EPCOT would be the oldest part (especially older than Hollywood Studios), with it’s themes of learning, science, exploration, etc.

But Villains is at least as much for the whole family as Haunted Mansion or Mr. Toad. I tend to agree that the Villains theme is catering to their highest spending core customers (Disney adults) but my daughter has loved Maleficent since she was about 8 and started watching Descendants. Also, OBB has been huge for some time.

Is it what I would do with a whole new land in MK? No, definitely not. If the rides are amazing, I’ll spend time (and LLSP money) there independent of theming (like I do on Tron), and if not, it’ll just be something that pulls rope droppers away from the ride I most want to

Epcot is a nice family park until about 2-3 in the afternoon. They did a nice job with cool kid summer. Scavenger hunt in the countries is a nice thing. Rides are great. Exposing kids to cultures & technology is great. Nice shopping. Tasty food. But there’s a massive vibe shift later in the day and suddenly you’re in an overcrowded booze fest. I’d hate for them to turn any other park into this.

 

[ClaraOswald]

Epcot is a nice family park until about 2-3 in the afternoon. They did a nice job with cool kid summer. Scavenger hunt in the countries is a nice thing. Rides are great. Exposing kids to cultures & technology is great. Nice shopping. Tasty food. But there’s a massive vibe shift later in the day and suddenly you’re in an overcrowded booze fest. I’d hate for them to turn any other park into this.

Booze = $$$$

But yeah...I hate the World Showcase vibe in the evenings. It's so much worse now than it was during my visits in 2008/2010.

 

[Chili327]

I have no interest in a villains hotel, but if there's a Villains Land and the MK hotels are each supposed to reflect a MK land, a villians hotel would fit the pattern. But BLT is an extension of the Contemporary and the Contemporary is Tomorrow Land. There's also not a Heroes land in the park.

I'm going to get flak for indirectly saying "Disney is for kids", but generally speaking:

• Magic Kingdom should be for elementary schoolers and younger
• Hollywood Studios should be for middle schoolers
• Epcot should be for high schoolers and older
• Animal Kingdom is for anyone who likes animals

If this was Sim City, I would drag-and-drop Toy Story Land to MK, and build Villians Land in HS. I would then build a Toy Story (or Pixar) themed hotel in the MK area.

I'd like to promote some flak...
Blasphemy, Disney Parks are for everyone.!!

Disney follows the money. Disney adults = $$$$.

Unfortunate Truth.!!

I wouldn’t be unhappy about most of these changes, but age is not how Disney conceptualizes the parks (and never was)—they are all supposed to be for the whole family.

Even accepting that framework though, I don’t understand why EPCOT would be the oldest part (especially older than Hollywood Studios), with it’s themes of learning, science, exploration, etc.

But Villains is at least as much for the whole family as Haunted Mansion or Mr. Toad. I tend to agree that the Villains theme is catering to their highest spending core customers (Disney adults) but my daughter has loved Maleficent since she was about 8 and started watching Descendants. Also, OBB has been huge for some time.

Is it what I would do with a whole new land in MK? No, definitely not. If the rides are amazing, I’ll spend time (and LLSP money) there independent of theming (like I do on Tron), and if not, it’ll just be something that pulls rope droppers away from the ride I most want to do.

Agree, Walt said so himself, & they should always be that way....

Epcot is a nice family park until about 2-3 in the afternoon... ….there’s a massive vibe shift later in the day and suddenly you’re in an overcrowded booze fest. I’d hate for them to turn any other park into this.

Yes, please, not this!
I hate "Drinking Around the World".

 

[PolyRob]

I’m with you - this villains obsession by theme park adults feels like a trend. It’s bad enough we’re getting a theme park land based off of a trend (started by Universal by the way) and Disney would be way overdoing it with a “villains” hotel adjacent to the Magic Kingdom of all parks. Magic Kingdom is supposed to be the quintessential family theme park, not yet another adult hangout spot. Not that adults shouldn’t hang out at MK, it just shouldn’t target them.

I'm not sure this is only a recent trend. Disney fans (kids included) have been villain obsessed for a long time. There have been fifth gate "Tragic Kingdom" rumors and fan art for as long as I can remember. Club Villain was popular a decade ago. The first Descendants movie (100% for kids) also came out a decade ago. It's hard to meet villains when everything is happy and cheerful.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Booze = $$$$

We are not really big drinkers and I’m shocked to see possibly more than half of the Festival of the Holidays booth items are alcohol—like many booths have more drinks than food! OTOH, I love the zany Keel Farms sweet hard cider flavors and I’m trying to figure out if we have enough days for me to try all the varieties I want to try without having more than 2 drinks (split with my husband) per day— pretty sure the answer is no.

But yeah...I hate the World Showcase vibe in the evenings. It's so much worse now than it was during my visits in 2008/2010.

We spent a lot of evenings at Epcot, often during festivals (though also on AP blackout dates, so maybe that helps?) and generally don’t think the evening vibes are as bad as everybody says (notable exception: people are clearly drunk and rowdy in the Cosmic Rewind pre-show rooms at the end of the day)— but I really don’t like the proliferation of “drinking around the world” shirts you see all over the park, especially now that my kids are old enough to read and asking about them.

Definitely don’t want to see other parks start to encourage heavy drinking the way EPCOT does, but I maintain IF there has to be one park for heavy drinking, we should not meekly cede EPCOT, we should make it DHS instead.

 

[Brian Noble]

I've been on both sides of this. Sober for the past 7+ years, and very definitely NOT sober before that. One of the quirks about being a Friend of Bill W. is that most of us tend to pay a lot of attention to what and how much people around us are drinking. I was in Epcot this past October with another FoBW on a Sunday night, and we played the "who's hammered" game. We were surprised at how few people were even close.

In other words:

generally don’t think the evening vibes are as bad as everybody says

This.

Now it may be the case that I'm grading on the curve...or that everyone is.

Edited to add: Do you have any idea how much it costs to get properly drunk on Festival offerings? Yikes.

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

Just my $0.02, but I have never seen anyone hammered at Epcot. I'm sure it happens, but I don't know that it is ALWAYS happening, either.

And I agree with @BrianNoble, it costs a fortune to get a buzz on, let alone really drunk. Also, I keep reading/seeing news stories how the younger generations are NOT into alcohol, doing sober/dry January, etc. I'm Gen X, so still the generation where you wore your war tales with pride, but our kids are Alpha, and I work with Gen Z. They are not into drinking at all, at least from what I can see.