Next DVC project?

[SpaceMountain77]

We were visiting in Dec...stayed at BLT. We visited the DVC table at WL to talk about upcoming plans. When I mentioned the possibility of some of the rooms at WL being converted to DVC, he said he didn't see that happening but that there is a large tract of land that is between the resort and campgrounds that could possibly be utilized. He also asked if I got my info from the DIS which he follows

I trust DVC table and booth attendants as far as I can throw them. When land clearing began for VGF, the gentleman at the GF DVC desk told the couple in front of me that the land was being cleared to allow for expanded parking at Senses.

I suspect that many contributors to this board know more than some of the DVC greeters.

 

[Dean]

I trust DVC table and booth attendants as far as I can throw them. When land clearing began for VGF, the gentleman at the GF DVC desk told the couple in front of me that the land was being cleared to allow for expanded parking at Senses. I suspect that many contributors to this board know more than some of the DVC greeters.

True, DVC doesn't tell the ASA's much of substance in advance. Still, that he gave an honest answer rather than a generic one is a plus for this person.

 

[Anal Annie]

You should start visiting Sea World and Universal. Between those three parks there are easily four or five world class roller coasters.

No interest in Sea World….went to Universal for a couple of days a couple summers ago (left our stuff in our studio at BWV for a night, took a taxi over & stayed at the HRH for a night to get their front of the line access). It was OK. Thought the Harry Potter stuff was well done and enjoyed a couple of the coasters. Parks had a different feel tho - more like being at Busch Gardens or something. We will go again one day but not in a hurry… We own at Disney and would rather Disney expand and add on more "big kid" rides.

 

[Brian Noble]

We own at Disney and would rather Disney expand and add on more "big kid" rides.

I don't see that happening. Disney's core market is families with younger kids, followed by empty nesters and multigenerational families. You and I might be exceptions, but most of those people are not serious coaster enthusiasts.

In the context of that market, Mission:Space was a $100M dud---they had to neuter half of it to even drum up the faintest bit of interest and justify keeping the thing. Half of my family still won't ride Orange, ad we visit a lot of "ordinary" amusement parks and enjoy them. On the other hand, 7DMT (somewhere between Barnstormer and Big Thunder on the thrill scale) is the hottest thing since sliced bread. I will be surprised if they ever build anything on the "other side" of Coaster/Everest, thrill-wise.

Sea World is worth it for Manta alone---possibly the best of the B&M fliers. And, to each their own, but we had a very different reaction to Universal. We thought the parks were fantastic, and the attraction mix was a lot more our speed. We still spend more time at Disney because of the timeshare availability, but certainly not all.

 

[Anal Annie]

I don't see that happening. Disney's core market is families with younger kids, followed by empty nesters and multigenerational families. You and I might be exceptions, but most of those people are not serious coaster enthusiasts.

In the context of that market, Mission:Space was a $100M dud---they had to neuter half of it to even drum up the faintest bit of interest and justify keeping the thing. Half of my family still won't ride Orange, ad we visit a lot of "ordinary" amusement parks and enjoy them. On the other hand, 7DMT (somewhere between Barnstormer and Big Thunder on the thrill scale) is the hottest thing since sliced bread. I will be surprised if they ever build anything on the "other side" of Coaster/Everest, thrill-wise.

Sea World is worth it for Manta alone---possibly the best of the B&M fliers. And, to each their own, but we had a very different reaction to Universal. We thought the parks were fantastic, and the attraction mix was a lot more our speed. We still spend more time at Disney because of the timeshare availability, but certainly not all.

I'm sure you're right - they could care less if they lose customers to Universal for the thrill rides. Since 9 times out of 10 we fly down rather than drive and use DME (I am NOT paying to rent a car) we will not be regulars at Universal. It felt bad enough to forfeit one night of BWV BW view points to take a taxi over to the HRH plus we usually buy AP's and want to make sure we spend enough time at Disney parks to get our money out of them. I would not go to Universal without the FOL access tho. During the season we went (summer) they were selling that FOL thing as an add-on for around $85 or $90 pp (it might have been $89) to those who weren't staying onsite - so spending what we did on a room at the HRH was worth it since we also got early access for 2 days too. But we are not likely to pick up and MOVE resorts to pay for more than 1 night out-of-pocket nor will we leave a room we're paying for with points for more than 1 night when we have "free" rooms with DVC. We are glad we tried it once and will go again one day for a day or so but it is far from becoming a regular thing for us. Those 2 days alone between Universal park tix, hotel & taxi cost us probably between $800-900. We are too budget conscious to do that very often.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I'm thinkin' this is next...

 

[Brian Noble]

I'm sure you're right - they could care less if they lose customers to Universal for the thrill rides. Since 9 times out of 10 we fly down rather than drive and use DME (I am NOT paying to rent a car) we will not be regulars at Universal. It felt bad enough to forfeit one night of BWV BW view points to take a taxi over to the HRH plus we usually buy AP's and want to make sure we spend enough time at Disney parks to get our money out of them. I would not go to Universal without the FOL access tho. During the season we went (summer) they were selling that FOL thing as an add-on for around $85 or $90 pp (it might have been $89) to those who weren't staying onsite - so spending what we did on a room at the HRH was worth it since we also got early access for 2 days too. But we are not likely to pick up and MOVE resorts to pay for more than 1 night out-of-pocket nor will we leave a room we're paying for with points for more than 1 night when we have "free" rooms with DVC. We are glad we tried it once and will go again one day for a day or so but it is far from becoming a regular thing for us. Those 2 days alone between Universal park tix, hotel & taxi cost us probably between $800-900. We are too budget conscious to do that very often.

Our trips tend to either be "Disney trips" or "Everything Else" trips. For Everything Else trips, we'll stay at e.g. the Hilton Sea World or another top-shelf offsite timeshare. We'll augment that with VIP tickets at Universal (which include unlimited Express) plus maybe a ticket to Sea World or one of the area waterparks.

 

[yitbos96bb]

Yes, space is an issue at Yacht Club. Plus, it does an extremely good convention business and doesn't appear to have occupancy problems.

Fort Wilderness because they do have room and they will need something BIG and new to sell in the future like a SSR/AKV. Room conversion seems likely at VWL, BCV and BWV but who really wants to pay the prices they are asking for retro-fitted units that already have issues? Especially when those resorts have resale opportunities.

I just can't see it selling ag current prices bug I guess we'll see.

 

[yitbos96bb]

I trust DVC table and booth attendants as far as I can throw them. When land clearing began for VGF, the gentleman at the GF DVC desk told the couple in front of me that the land was being cleared to allow for expanded parking at Senses.

I suspect that many contributors to this board know more than some of the DVC greeters.

The best I heard was at he Contemporary when BLT was being built....

"What tower?"

 

[Dean]

I just can't see it selling ag current prices bug I guess we'll see.

If they can sell the 2042 resorts at current retail prices, SSR when it came along, and the current prices for BLT/VGF; I think they can sell about anything at any price as long as it's Disney. Esp when they only turn the heat up a little at the time. You've already got people willing to pay almost double for retail knowing, or having the opportunity to know, they get nothing of material value doing so.

 

[DVC Mike]

Everyone’s been wondering where the next DVC will be built at Walt Disney World. I heard from my cousin's husband, who is a bus driver at WDW, about what DVC's next plans are.

According to these reliable sources, plans have been leaked earlier this week, and many folks who guessed it might be a revival of River Country near Fort Wilderness appear to be right.

However, DVC decided to combine the River Country plan with a massive contemporary building featuring modern amenities. The new DVC structure will be 100 stories tall, and will consist exclusively of deluxe studios.

A new Top of the World restaurant will offer stunning views of the state of Florida, from Jacksonville to Key West.

Although there won’t be any washer/dryer units in the room, there will be a small laundry room on the 56th floor featuring 4 washing machines and 5 dryers.

DVC estimates, based upon their history of sales, it will take 57 years for this new DVC resort to sell out, offering years of profits for Disney Vacation Development without any further capital investment.

Construction is scheduled to begin in late 2015, with the new resort scheduled to open in 2018. Point cost is estimated at $300/point.

The point chart will most likely not be based on seasons, but on what floor your studio room is located on, starting at 25 points a night on the 1st floor to 879 points a night on the 98th floor. The 99th floor will not be declared into the DVC resort, with Disney opting to retain ownership and rent the units on that floor for cash.

Here's the concept DVD and the Imagineers have been working hard on:

http://i235.*************************************Misc/RCT_Concept.jpg
Plans leaked 4/1/15​

 

[dvc at last !]

Everyone’s been wondering where the next DVC will be built at Walt Disney World. I heard from my cousin's husband, who is a bus driver at WDW, about what DVC's next plans are.

According to these reliable sources, plans have been leaked earlier this week, and many folks who guessed it might be a revival of River Country near Fort Wilderness appear to be right.

However, DVC decided to combine the River Country plan with a massive contemporary building featuring modern amenities. The new DVC structure will be 100 stories tall, and will consist exclusively of deluxe studios.

A new Top of the World restaurant will offer stunning views of the state of Florida, from Jacksonville to Key West.

Although there won’t be any washer/dryer units in the room, there will be a small laundry room on the 56th floor featuring 4 washing machines and 5 dryers.

DVC estimates, based upon their history of sales, it will take 57 years for this new DVC resort to sell out, offering years of profits for Disney Vacation Development without any further capital investment.

Construction is scheduled to begin in late 2015, with the new resort scheduled to open in 2018. Point cost is estimated at $300/point.

The point chart will most likely not be based on seasons, but on what floor your studio room is located on, starting at 25 points a night on the 1st floor to 879 points a night on the 98th floor. The 99th floor will not be declared into the DVC resort, with Disney opting to retain ownership and rent the units on that floor for cash.

Here's the concept DVD and the Imagineers have been working hard on:

http://i235.*************************************RiverCountryDVC.png

Funny stuff !
But, I think it will be Yacht Club. Less populated, nice grounds, SAB and walking to 2 parks !

 

[DebbieB]

I think conversion of existing rooms is more likely. There is the rumor of WL. They can remodel those quickly and sell them, like they did with the longhouses at Poly. I would love to see them do that at Grand California, 48 rooms at DL isn't enough.

 

[paults]

Everyone’s been wondering where the next DVC will be built at Walt Disney World. I heard from my cousin's husband, who is a bus driver at WDW, about what DVC's next plans are.

According to these reliable sources, plans have been leaked earlier this week, and many folks who guessed it might be a revival of River Country near Fort Wilderness appear to be right.

However, DVC decided to combine the River Country plan with a massive contemporary building featuring modern amenities. The new DVC structure will be 100 stories tall, and will consist exclusively of deluxe studios.

A new Top of the World restaurant will offer stunning views of the state of Florida, from Jacksonville to Key West.

Although there won’t be any washer/dryer units in the room, there will be a small laundry room on the 56th floor featuring 4 washing machines and 5 dryers.

DVC estimates, based upon their history of sales, it will take 57 years for this new DVC resort to sell out, offering years of profits for Disney Vacation Development without any further capital investment.

Construction is scheduled to begin in late 2015, with the new resort scheduled to open in 2018. Point cost is estimated at $300/point.

The point chart will most likely not be based on seasons, but on what floor your studio room is located on, starting at 25 points a night on the 1st floor to 879 points a night on the 98th floor. The 99th floor will not be declared into the DVC resort, with Disney opting to retain ownership and rent the units on that floor for cash.

Here's the concept DVD and the Imagineers have been working hard on:

http://i235.*************************************RiverCountryDVC.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...swFsHIkeg&x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404
And they will add this later incase the elevators stop working.

 

[supersuperwendy]

I'm guessing a Bay Lake Tower South is going to be in our future!! I saw some resort info recently on how Disney ranks their own resorts and they put the South Garden Wing in the same group as the All Star Resorts. Based on what the CM was saying, I'd say the south garden wing's days are numbered.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I've read several times over the years that the ground underneath what would be a "south tower" would not support such a tower and that it is not cost-effective to try to make it support such a tower, especially since there's really no "selling point" to such a tower (no park views, etc.).

So what's the deal? Was that argument bogus or true?

 

[southerngirl528]

I've read several times over the years that the ground underneath what would be a "south tower" would not support such a tower and that it is not cost-effective to try to make it support such a tower,

Living very close to Disney I know a truckload of folks that work for Disney, including various roles w/DVC. I have heard this also on more than one occasion, WilsonFlyer. No doubt DVC would love to build there if it was possible….

 

[DebbieB]

One consideration with the Contemporary is it is a convention resort. I don't know that they would want to take away more hotel rooms, especially ones that are more moderately priced. I stick to my prediction in January, conversions are where the quick money is. BLT South or River Country would take a long construction time.

 

[disneynutz]

I've read several times over the years that the ground underneath what would be a "south tower" would not support such a tower and that it is not cost-effective to try to make it support such a tower, especially since there's really no "selling point" to such a tower (no park views, etc.).

So what's the deal? Was that argument bogus or true?

With enough money, you can build on anything. The issue may be one of cost.

Bill

 

[DVC Mike]

There's still plenty of space at Walt Disney World to build more DVC resorts.

Remember what Walt Disney said:

http://i235.*************************************Resorts/Future/Florida-Project.jpg