Newsflash! Your dog doesn't have to go EVERYWHERE with you!

[Evi]

Children are people (even if they are dirty, loud and misbehave) don't compare them to an animal.[/QUOTE]

We are all animals silly didn't you take science class =P Human = Mammal and so sorry but there are far more less abusive and dangerous species then humans look at dolphins and whales. For future reference DON'T think its your place to tell ME what to think because thats not your place..... Perhaps others don't mind you telling them what to do. But I do I am entitled to my opinion as are many others who have posted here and have been ridiculed by sharing their thoughts.

 

[rie'smom]

Children are people (even if they are dirty, loud and misbehave) don't compare them to an animal.

We are all animals silly didn't you take science class =P Human = Mammal and so sorry but there are far more less abusive and dangerous species then humans look at dolphins and whales. For future reference DON'T think its your place to tell ME what to think because thats not your place..... Perhaps others don't mind you telling them what to do. But I do I am entitled to my opinion as are many others who have posted here and have been ridiculed by sharing their thoughts.[/QUOTE]

Then there are those that are much more aggressive such as hyenas, hippos, piranhas,etc.

 

[Planogirl]

To each their own of course but I'll just say that I love cats and have had many over the years. But I love them because they are cats and I want them to be cats. They act like cats and I treat them like cats and we are all happy.

I would never tell someone how much to love something but animals do not have the same rights as humans. At least not yet that is.

 

[HunnyPots]

I have 4 kids - 3 boys and 1 girl.

Two of the boys complain about anything, eat me out of house and home, expect expensive Christmas/Birthday Presents, whine if we're out of their favorite (insert food/drink here), are generally pleasant, but can get hostile if they don't get their way and like this *snap* and talk back, "need" the latest (shoes, clothes, video games, etc). I could on and on.

The other boy and girl, eat what I give them, come inside when I ask, will go anywhere with me, don't talk back, console me when I'm sick, and don't cost me a dime in 'wants not needs'.

As you can see, it's quite easy to love your dogs just as much.

Yes, I see! And I totally agree!

 

[ems_mom]

As much as I love my dog, I can't equate her with my child. Would CathrynRose react the same way to a loss of her child as a loss of her pet? Of course not.

My girl Tess (mixed Min Pin and Chihuahua) is a super loving lap-dog/outdoor runner.

When she goes, I will mourn her loss as a family member and have her cremated as we did our last great pet loss of our lives, Jake.

That said, comparing your children to your pets is appalling. Placing pets over children has undoubtedly contributed to lots of hurt and pain.

Loving your pet...great. Loving your child, if you have one (or more) in addition to that pet...divine.

 

[shortbun]

Look, I like dogs but I'm horribly allergic to them. I don't go to some friend's houses often because of it and their dogs are all over everything. When they want to take their dogs everywhere or can not go anywhere because of their dogs, I just get impatient. I have a friend who's whole life has radically changed because of her new dog. Even her daughter is put out about how much time she's spending with her dog. The dog goes in the car wherever she goes. She can no longer do lunches unless she can sit near a window where she can watch her car. She has to go to the dog park everyday because the dog needs excersize-they do not have a yard for this German Shepherd mix. I could go on and on but I won't. I miss my friend and I can not spend time with her dog.

 

[CathrynRose]

As much as I love my dog, I can't equate her with my child. Would CathrynRose react the same way to a loss of her child as a loss of her pet? Of course not.

That said, comparing your children to your pets is appalling. Placing pets over children has undoubtedly contributed to lots of hurt and pain.

Loving your pet...great. Loving your child, if you have one (or more) in addition to that pet...divine.

See, this is a perfect example of things getting twisted and words being put into people's mouths. What are you talking about?


Mourning is mourning is mourning. I can't give you a time table if (God forbid) one of my children dies, nor could I give you one if (God forbid) one of my dogs, die. I will be upset at any death that surrounds me. Are we supposed to look at our animals and think "Wellll.... when she dies, I'm sure it will only be a 7 on a scale of 1-10, so I'll just love her less"

I don't understand what is appalling about loving a pet, and loving a child. What the hell is appalling about love?

Again - I don't put my love on a 1-10 comparison. "Since he eats from a dog bowl, he's only a 6..... " I mean come on. Love is love is love.

What is the problem with this??? I'm finding this "appalled" attitude more appalling than anything else.

 

[rie'smom]

See, this is a perfect example of things getting twisted and words being put into people's mouths. What are you talking about?


Mourning is mourning is mourning. I can't give you a time table if (God forbid) one of my children dies, nor could I give you one if (God forbid) one of my dogs, die. I will be upset at any death that surrounds me. Are we supposed to look at our animals and think "Wellll.... when she dies, I'm sure it will only be a 7 on a scale of 1-10, so I'll just love her less"

I don't understand what is appalling about loving a pet, and loving a child. What the hell is appalling about love?

Again - I don't put my love on a 1-10 comparison. "Since he eats from a dog bowl, he's only a 6..... " I mean come on. Love is love is love.

What is the problem with this??? I'm finding this "appalled" attitude more appalling than anything else.

Umm, no mourning is not mourning. It isn't the same at all. I really don't think that you'd feel this way if God forbid you lost a child. I lost my brother and I've lost a pet and I can tell you it isn't the same. While I was terribly upset when we lost my beloved Astro, it didn't touch the grief that I felt when my brother died.
Ask yourself this: If there was a fire or a tornado and you could only save one, would you save your child or your dog?

 

[Evi]

We are all animals silly didn't you take science class =P Human = Mammal and so sorry but there are far more less abusive and dangerous species then humans look at dolphins and whales. For future reference DON'T think its your place to tell ME what to think because thats not your place..... Perhaps others don't mind you telling them what to do. But I do I am entitled to my opinion as are many others who have posted here and have been ridiculed by sharing their thoughts.

Then there are those that are much more aggressive such as hyenas, hippos, piranhas,etc.[/QUOTE]

I think you misquoted me I was quoting someone else and reminding them that their attempt at telling me or anyone else what to do or think really isn't called for on the boards. I don't think the animals you listed are more aggressive then we are as a species though. I've yet to see or hear any stories of any of those animals destroying their environment, participating in the genocide of other members of their own species, having serial killers, leading to the extinction of other species. Really if we are not animals then what are we? I think when people see themselves above the other species on this planet this is what is wrong with the world. My point seems to have been lost here.

 

[Darsa]

Wow, that's really unfair and exceedingly harsh. I'm not going to put either my child OR my pets on a "ratings" scale. There's room in my heart for all of them. Yeesh, I can't imagine putting a "score" or a "rating" on love! Can you tell me this? If a woman is unable to have children, and decides to fill "spend" her love on a dog instead, is that less of a love than I feel for my child that I was lucky enough to be able to have? I couldn't answer that, because I don't rate my love. I just love... that's all.

 

[Mermaid02]

Then there are those that are much more aggressive such as hyenas, hippos, piranhas,etc.

I think you misquoted me I was quoting someone else and reminding them that their attempt at telling me or anyone else what to do or think really isn't called for on the boards. I don't think the animals you listed are more aggressive then we are as a species though. I've yet to see or here stories of any of those animals destroying their environment, participating in the genocide of other members of their own species, having serial killers, leading to the extinction of other species. Really if we are not an animal that what are we? I think when people see themselves above the other species on this planet this is what is wrong with the world. My point seems to have been lost here.[/QUOTE]

But how do you feel about dog Butt in shopping carts?

 

[Evi]

I think you misquoted me I was quoting someone else and reminding them that their attempt at telling me or anyone else what to do or think really isn't called for on the boards. I don't think the animals you listed are more aggressive then we are as a species though. I've yet to see or here stories of any of those animals destroying their environment, participating in the genocide of other members of their own species, having serial killers, leading to the extinction of other species. Really if we are not an animal that what are we? I think when people see themselves above the other species on this planet this is what is wrong with the world. My point seems to have been lost here.

But how do you feel about dog Butt in shopping carts?[/QUOTE]

You obviously didn't read my original post I answered this there perhaps you should start over and read from the beginning..

 

[CathrynRose]

Umm, no mourning is not mourning. It isn't the same at all. I really don't think that you'd feel this way if God forbid you lost a child. I lost my brother and I've lost a pet and I can tell you it isn't the same. While I was terribly upset when we lost my beloved Astro, it didn't touch the grief that I felt when my brother died.
Ask yourself this: If there was a fire or a tornado and you could only save one, would you save your child or your dog?

Geez Louise!

Guess what? I know grief. I know loss. I know mourning. I lost my mother, tragically and unexpectedly in January of 2006, when I was 32. Please don't school me on loss.

Here you go, Darsa said it best:

Wow, that's really unfair and exceedingly harsh. I'm not going to put either my child OR my pets on a "ratings" scale. There's room in my heart for all of them. Yeesh, I can't imagine putting a "score" or a "rating" on love! Can you tell me this? If a woman is unable to have children, and decides to fill "spend" her love on a dog instead, is that less of a love than I feel for my child that I was lucky enough to be able to have? I couldn't answer that, because I don't rate my love. I just love... that's all[/U][/B].

Thank you!

 

[Mermaid02]

But how do you feel about dog Butt in shopping carts?

You obviously didn't read my original post I answered this there perhaps you should start over and read from the beginning..[/QUOTE]

It was a joke- somebody took a grumpy pill this morning.

 

[HelenePA]

Geez Louise!

Guess what? I know grief. I know loss. I know mourning. I lost my mother, tragically and unexpectedly in January of 2006, when I was 32. Please don't school me on loss.

Here you go, Darsa said it best:




Thank you!

I lost my mom in 2004 at the age of 25, lost my dad at the age of 29. Lost my dog at the age of 30. The loss of my pet does not even begin to rank up there with the loss of my parents... My pets are part of my family but a different part than the humans in my house. Would I cry if my cats died? I'm sure I would would I still be crying daily over the loss of them a year or two later? probably not. I still cry for my parents. I miss them daily. I miss my pets too but in a whole different way. Just like they are treated in a whole other way. They stay home when we are on vacation. (I highly doubt the cats want to go to the beach) they dont go shopping or to the mall with us.. they are much happier at home sleeping enjoying the quiet. I just can't fathom any pets wanting or needing to go grocery shopping with their family.

 

[amg35]

I lost my mom in 2004 at the age of 25, lost my dad at the age of 29. Lost my dog at the age of 30. The loss of my pet does not even begin to rank up there with the loss of my parents... My pets are part of my family but a different part than the humans in my house. Would I cry if my cats died? I'm sure I would would I still be crying daily over the loss of them a year or two later? probably not. I still cry for my parents. I miss them daily. I miss my pets too but in a whole different way. Just like they are treated in a whole other way. They stay home when we are on vacation. (I highly doubt the cats want to go to the beach) they dont go shopping or to the mall with us.. they are much happier at home sleeping enjoying the quiet. I just can't fathom any pets wanting or needing to go grocery shopping with their family.

While I agree with you for the most part, today is the one year anniversary of the death of my first dog, best friend. I still think of her everyday and I still miss her every single day. And yes, I still cry if I think about it long enough, but I usually stop myself. Did life go on? Of course!! But I am surprised at the depth of loss I felt when she died.

 

[CathrynRose]

I lost my mom in 2004 at the age of 25, lost my dad at the age of 29. Lost my dog at the age of 30.

Tell me why this ridiculous thread has turned into comparing love and loss? It's totally weird.

I'm moving to a more dog friendly community. Id rather be with my own kind.