News Round Up

[rteetz]

Hmmm... You mean the place I won't buy from in the mall because its msrp?

So much for the hopes for a new adventureland themed store.

 

[mom2rtk]

You mean the place I won't buy from in the mall because its msrp?

Brace yourself for MSRP+.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Brace yourself for MSRP+.

Right...designed for fools on vacation...

The civilian equivalent of sailors on shore leave

 

[vandy]

But these sunglasses have pixie dust on them!!!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

But these sunglasses have pixie dust on them!!!

I'm gonna just assume you're messing with me

 

[verygood20]

Really don't understand the hate for my magic plus. The magic bands were great and much better than running all over the park to get my fast passes. I hated all that running around only to be scheduled by their schedule. This system gave me choices at least. I've used them and it was great for me and my family.
I do want extra capacity and I think in the long run you will see that added to stay competitive.

 

[rteetz]

Really don't understand the hate for my magic plus. The magic bands were great and much better than running all over the park to get my fast passes. I hated all that running around only to be scheduled by their schedule. This system gave me choices at least. I've used them and it was great for me and my family.
I do want extra capacity and I think in the long run you will see that added to stay competitive.

That's your opinion everyone is entitled to their own. Many people are used to the old ways and not being so stuck to a schedule and some like the new system. It is what it is its here for gold we're going to have to deal with it.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think it's more skepticism towards the "90%" comment than the system itself.

Disney has done two things with the data
Very well:
1. They have developed it and mined it to assist in making billions upon billions of dollars over
The last 60 years
2. They have withheld, manipulated, and sometimes outright lied when releasing their "findings" to the public - to maintain the false perception that they continually give everyone what they want before anybody even knows they want it.

I just don't like when CEO in waiting Mr. Boring says "90%" of people like it - it can only be for an agenda.

People have gotten used to the system and it works fine...but it has altered the experience in a fundamental way that could be used against the paying customer in the future - make no mistake.

I hope not...but they continue to spend their time on "the operation" with far too much effort than they seem to the "fun".

Again...the prices are being raised while they slog along with these RIDICULOUS construction timelines. It's not a good faith effort...it's deliberate and greedy.

So with all due respect to the wristbands - which I like - I'm back to focusing on how the operations in parks seems to be straying more and more each day away from the Disney experience that made them the best in the first place.

But that's just me

 

[Tigger's ally]

I think it's more skepticism towards the "90%" comment than the system itself.

Disney has done two things with the data
Very well:
1. They have developed it and mined it to assist in making billions upon billions of dollars over
The last 60 years
2. They have withheld, manipulated, and sometimes outright lied when releasing their "findings" to the public - to maintain the false perception that they continually give everyone what they want before anybody even knows they want it.

I just don't like when CEO in waiting Mr. Boring says "90%" of people like it - it can only be for an agenda.

People have gotten used to the system and it works fine...but it has altered the experience in a fundamental way that could be used against the paying customer in the future - make no mistake.

I hope not...but they continue to spend their time on "the operation" with far too much effort than they seem to the "fun".

Again...the prices are being raised while they slog along with these RIDICULOUS construction timelines. It's not a good faith effort...it's deliberate and greedy.

So with all due respect to the wristbands - which I like - I'm back to focusing on how the operations in parks seems to be straying more and more each day away from the Disney experience that made them the best in the first place.

But that's just me

Noting your complaint about someone with an "agenda".

 

[skier_pete]

I could picture that DME/MB/FP+ is more popular than the old FP system, and also has a higher approval rating (though 90% seems rather high).

This is another case where the folks on these boards continue to think that they represent the "typical" park-goer. IF that was the case, then I think the approval levels would be lower. (Though I think they are around 50-50 here on the boards, a lot of people even here like it, and I am amongst those that prefer the new to the old, though there are things I liked better about the old.)

The "OLD" system (FP) was poorly explained and not used by a LOT of visitors - I can't tell you how many people we ran into over the years that thought it was some sort of "pay as you go" system.

Disney is spending a considerable amount to explain to the average park goer how to use DME. I think a LOT more people are using it. (Why the Standy lines have actually grown bigger in some cases.)

Think about it, if you are Joe Schmo and you were expecting to go to Disney and stand in long lines, and were instead told "Hey look, you can book this ride and NOT stand in line, you just need to come back between 2 and 3 PM?", well, that would look great to you, wouldn't it??

For those of us that knew you could have done it all along, only now you HAVE to come back in that window instead of anytime after the start - it's not so great.

Where I do agree with LOL is that the implementation of this program has taken too much away from park improvements, so we are left with 3 parks desparate in need of expansion/new rides. DME is a good substitute for new rides for the business, and possibly even for the infrequent visitor (which is the majority) but not for the frequent visitor...

...I think this is a big reason they haven't pushed DME on DLR. Those parks have the opposite market of WDW. While WDW is probably 80% occasional visitor (and by occasional I say no more than every 2-3 years), DLR is probably 80% frequent visitor. Spending a bunch of money to try and force a new system on those folks wouldn't be as successful. (IT still will likely happen at some point, though.)

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Noting your complaint about someone with an "agenda".

My "agenda" is to maintain the value of the park product...instead of moving towards a preplanned, overpriced, millionaires (or worse) playground...

You really caught my evil goals there...

 

[opharbour]

Anyone hear any reason behind the Transportation Center Monorail to Magic Kingdom being down today?

 

[luisov]

90% does sound too high. However, it's also true that Disney's internet fanbase (which seems to have the most problems with FP+) is only a very tiny part of the bigger group that uses the system. It could be argued that the ''general public'' actually got benefited from the new system as it theoretically ensures everyone gets to enjoy 10 experiences (or whatever number it was) and you don't have to run from one point to the other to get your FPs.

Not saying that those numbers are not inflated or that FP+ is a good or a bad system though. It just seems that the number of guests affected by the new system is relatively small in comparison to that of casual guests who didn't even use the FP system before.

 

[rteetz]

Anyone hear any reason behind the Transportation Center Monorail to Magic Kingdom being down today?

Nope haven't heard anything is it still down? Might have been a mechanical issue they have been working on the new automated system. These trains really do need a good refurb.

 

[mom2rtk]

Anyone hear any reason behind the Transportation Center Monorail to Magic Kingdom being down today?

Sounds like a real mess on such a busy day.

 

[Andrew015]

I'm still trying to figure out how they got 10% negativity. The last survey I got had a range something like:
1. Great!
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5. Life Altering in it's Awesomeness!!

 

[rteetz]

More walls coming to animal kingdom

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2014/12/more-construction-walls-coming-to.html?m=1

 

[rteetz]

Here are times guides for the upcoming week which will be one of the busiest of the year

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2014/12/walt-disney-world-times-guides-end-of.html?m=1

 

[rteetz]

Magic kingdom is currently at phase A closing

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...d-to-some-guests-due-to-reaching-capacity.htm

 

[rteetz]

Second source confirming a table service addition to pizzafari

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2014/12/confi...added-to-pizzafari-at-disneys-animal-kingdom/