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The crowd that seems to be missing so far is the "Non Disney Star Wars Fanatic" that I know many, including myself, thought would push these crowds into the insane territory. Is this crowd not as big as we thought? Is this crowd waiting for RoTR? Is this crowd waiting for Orlando?

I spend a lot of time on star wars forums as a huge fan myself and from what I have seen people are arguing constantly about Disney should have done this place or that place vs a new place. Especially the Original Trilogy purists. It's been give me Mos Eisley or give me death. So I think that crowd is, imo, less interested in it.

Even personally, if it wasn't at Disney and I wasn't already a parks fanatic I don't know that I would even rush to get there.
 
The crowd that seems to be missing so far is the "Non Disney Star Wars Fanatic" that I know many, including myself, thought would push these crowds into the insane territory. Is this crowd not as big as we thought? Is this crowd waiting for RoTR? Is this crowd waiting for Orlando?

well, I think some of them, at least, are in the Group A I described that will spend $ on anything Star Wars and figured out how to be part of the reservation time during DLR

Though, I am sure others are waiting and gauging how things will be. I know I was honestly a bit surprised how to many Star Wars fans just the basics about Galaxy's Edge was news to them at the last Star Wars Convention and how the Galaxy's Edge panel, which basically had no new news to many in attendance was really new news. I think the land wasn't as "front of mind" to many big time Star Wars fans, so they may wait - that is, either they went early or will wait until both rides are open

Guess there could be another group of people that aren't "anti-Disney" just haven't made going to WDW a priority and now Galaxy's Edge combined with Pandora and Toy Story Land, etc. is enough for them to do their first family WDW trip ... but I woudl think that group wouldnt' focus on being there for the opening of GE - just more whenever works for their family trip
 
well, I think some of them, at least, are in the Group A I described that will spend $ on anything Star Wars and figured out how to be part of the reservation time during DLR

Though, I am sure others are waiting and gauging how things will be. I know I was honestly a bit surprised how to many Star Wars fans just the basics about Galaxy's Edge was news to them at the last Star Wars Convention and how the Galaxy's Edge panel, which basically had no new news to many in attendance was really new news. I think the land wasn't as "front of mind" to many big time Star Wars fans, so they may wait - that is, either they went early or will wait until both rides are open

Guess there could be another group of people that aren't "anti-Disney" just haven't made going to WDW a priority and now Galaxy's Edge combined with Pandora and Toy Story Land, etc. is enough for them to do their first family WDW trip ... but I woudl think that group wouldnt' focus on being there for the opening of GE - just more whenever works for their family trip

The anti-Disney sentiment is strong in the hardcore star wars community. I mean.....it's toxic. I work with a guy who's "life has been ruined" by Disney star wars movies
 

I spend a lot of time on star wars forums as a huge fan myself and from what I have seen people are arguing constantly about Disney should have done this place or that place vs a new place. Especially the Original Trilogy purists. It's been give me Mos Eisley or give me death. So I think that crowd is, imo, less interested in it.

Even personally, if it wasn't at Disney and I wasn't already a parks fanatic I don't know that I would even rush to get there.

Yeah, i think this is factor that plays a role in what I was talking about to ... for those fans going to "a Star Wars Land" is important to, they probably already went, and for others it might not be as high a priority as those of us on the outside would think it would be
 
Someone mentioned that the Guardians coaster will be a backwards launch, but I haven’t seen it anywhere on the boards. Any truth to this? It sounds awesome.
 
Flights are the big thing, just depending on where you are coming from. Being in NY we can find reasonable flights to Europe - but also often can find really cheap flights to Florida. Also, we often drive which makes it even cheaper (since we have 5 people - even a relatively cheap flight adds up when multiplied by 5)

Also, just the time to get to Europe takes longer so would be a much bigger undertaking as most people, I would think, woudl want to be there for longer and see more than just DLP, so the entire trip will add up

But fully agree that if youjust compare X days at DLP vs X days at WDW the cost can be a lot less. Found the same at Hong Kong Disney - park tickets were much cheaper
Oh you are quite right when it comes to wanting to be there longer, the trip i just got back from had 4 days in Glasgow and 4 days in Paris. I only did 2 of those days at DLP in saying that, yes tickets are cheaper and even dinner is cheaper, since Disney auto includes the tip in there meals there, which is counter intuitive to the actual tipping custom in France, but regardless, the only thing that was about the same cost wise was the merchandise though if you spend over 120 Euro in a single day you can get your VAT back which is nice. I also much prefer the 10 minute Highspeed TGV train from the Airport over the Disney Magical express, 40 minute ride. But yes, over all going Overseas will be a larger endeavor, but in saying that I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of money I saved compared to what I typically spend on a Disney trip even with day trips into Paris to explore and see the sights.
 
I don’t think RotR is playing to much of a factor, there might be some who wants to visit when both attractions are open but that’s probably a smaller amount of people. Money may also be a small factor but everything at Disney is expensive and we see crowd increases each year so why would money now be a factor. Unless we just hit the tipping point. All in all it’s a very interesting discussion.
I have a co-worker who is a big SW fan, never been to Disney and has no interest in Disney. He's been following the SW:GE news and he said "Why would I spend all that money to see half a land?" He actual plans on waiting until the hotel opens, then I'm sure he'll be a one a done guest. Completely anecdotal, but for non-Disney SW fans, it might be playing a bigger role than you think.

I agree with the rest of your post, though, I think I a lot of people saw the predictions of crazy crowds and said nope. The reservation system also did a great job of throttling the initial response so now that it is full open to the public, a lot of people have already seen it and are probably avoiding the crowds. But I guarantee, this is not what Disney management thought they were going to get from this opening.

WDW should be interesting, based on hotel room availability, I think it'll be packed and I'm planning on staying away from DHS after the 28th.
 
I think the biggest difference between SWGE at DL vs WDW is that DL is mainly a locals park. Yes, some would have booked a special trip to experience SWGE but not a lot. I'm guessing many locals either cannot use the APs right now or, if they don't have an AP they're waiting to see how the crowds are before making the drive.

WDW is almost fully made up of people visiting WDW for an extended period of time and further distances so already had their trips booked before the opening was even announced. Add to that the number of people who will book specifically to visit SWGE at WDW and the crowd numbers at opening could be vastly different in my opinion.

I'm one who is hoping WDW is standing up and taking notice of how smoothly the opening(s) went at DL and are putting similar strategies in motion, especially the virtual queue.
I would think most of the campout all night fans and wait in 10 hour line fans, would've made an effort to go to the DL SW:GE as opposed to waiting for DHS. That'd be like camping out at Best Buy for the Blu Ray after not go to see a movie in the theater.
 
The crowd that seems to be missing so far is the "Non Disney Star Wars Fanatic" that I know many, including myself, thought would push these crowds into the insane territory. Is this crowd not as big as we thought? Is this crowd waiting for RoTR? Is this crowd waiting for Orlando?
I agree, but there is another option "This crowd doesn't care about SW:GE for some reason." I doubt they are waiting for Orlando, other than that, who knows.
 
My 2 cents: I have rabid Star Wars fans who are very casual Disney fans (have been once or twice but years ago). They don’t understand that it’s a land on both coasts. (Heck, they think it’s open in WDW right now.)

They are talking about going to WDW to see it(because that’s the park they know) but want a vacation offer to do it.
 
The debate on WDW versus DisneyLand has one additional factor to consider. WDW has hotel reservations they can use to judge interest. If indeed Free Dining comes back before SW:GE opens, then rest assured the forecasting ability of WDW shows lack of interest. Now that lack may be due to price hikes, faltering economy, removal of traditional rides, overcrowding, loss of corn dogs, whatever. My point is to watch for room & meal pricing for the weeks and months following SW:GW opening.

As a previous poster stated, the only thing Disney abhors is a half empty park!
 
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