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As much as I am grumbling about ticket and ap price increases. It’s still such a good value when I figure in how often I go against things like major sporting events and concert tickets.

For someone that can go quite often they could double the price and people would still get good value out of it though harder to make it “work” if you aren’t local but do like 2 or 3 trips a year

I mean, at $1,500 you need 15 days just to get it to $100/day and 30 days to get it to $50/day

If local and you can pop over for a few hours even but like 50+ days it’s still a really good value (plus the discounts make each day a little cheaper than “regular” guests for food, etc)
 
These increases are starting to get insane. Some of these tickets are increased by more than 20%. I expected an increase but not that big of a jump for the Signature Plus and Premier Passport. Since my family and I are WDW APs and not Disneyland APs the real killer for us is MaxPass jumping up from $10 to $15. The middle class is slowly getting outpriced.

Ugh, I now more than ever wished they had individual and family prices (since a family only needs one photopass that benefit is finished after first guest).

One thing to pay $15/day for one person for fastpass and photopass ... another for a family like mine to pay $75/day more
 
Yeah, the company with 7 "nondescript" coasters rated in the top 50 in the world, and one in the top 10. Vs the company with 1 coaster barely in the top 50, (which is Everest ;)). I agree that Disney is a much different experience than a typical coaster park, but Disney is the one trying to add boring coasters everywhere. I personally wish they would stick to the rides that make them special, like the dark rides, FoP/Soarin', etc and save the coasters for the places that know what they are doing.

Edit: I decided this may have sounded too harsh. I like most of Disney's coasters, but if you moved them to a park like Cedar Point or Kings Island, very few of them would break the top 10 in just those parks. Disney is unwilling to do what it takes to have a top coaster (and I agree with those decisions) but they are more than willing to do what it takes to have top simulators, dark rides, boat rides, etc. If there was a list of the best dark rides in the world, Disney Parks would likely have 40 of the top 50 spots. So, as a coaster enthusiast I personally wish they'd give us more of what they excel at vs what they don't. But of course, GotG and Tron will be improvements over what was there.

I think it is catering to different crowds. Disney definitely not going for “coaster enthusiasts” but is sill trying to have “enough” for those that do like some thrills.

And I think I am more in the later category as I love a good coaster - really enjoyed a lot of the ones Busch Gardens Williamsburg has for example. But I prefer something like Everest or Big Thunder over a lot of coaster that “coaster enthusiasts” would rate much higher

And I think that is what Iger was trying to get at - that they are trying to provide a more overall immersive (“distinct”) experience vs a “nondescript”, but maybe “better” coaster
 
Ugh, I now more than ever wished they had individual and family prices (since a family only needs one photopass that benefit is finished after first guest).

One thing to pay $15/day for one person for fastpass and photopass ... another for a family like mine to pay $75/day more
I've thought about that pricing structure before. The only thing is I'm not sure it's an accurate thing to portray. That $15/day for 1 person can have the same financial impact to that 1 person as it can to a family paying $75/day for 5 people. Besides do they count 2 people as a family? or is it just 4 or more people (using sorta the standard to family--2 parents 2 kids)?

On the other hand EP at Universal I believe when you get the hotel room is priced per room rather than per person. But their EP is still priced out per person so for those thinking about getting it it's advised to do that math because it may make more financial sense to just get a hotel room that comes included with it.
 

Ugh, I now more than ever wished they had individual and family prices (since a family only needs one photopass that benefit is finished after first guest).

One thing to pay $15/day for one person for fastpass and photopass ... another for a family like mine to pay $75/day more

When I went to Disneyland for my first time this past July, I received a survey that had a few MaxPass questions. One of the things I wrote was that there should be a MaxPass family plan like you stated. For families of 4 and up, $10 was a lot but now $15 a day per person is a killer especially if ur going for 4 or 5 days.
 
I've thought about that pricing structure before. The only thing is I'm not sure it's an accurate thing to portray. That $15/day for 1 person can have the same financial impact to that 1 person as it can to a family paying $75/day for 5 people. Besides do they count 2 people as a family? or is it just 4 or more people (using sorta the standard to family--2 parents 2 kids)?

On the other hand EP at Universal I believe when you get the hotel room is priced per room rather than per person. But their EP is still priced out per person so for those thinking about getting it it's advised to do that math because it may make more financial sense to just get a hotel room that comes included with it.

Yeah, it’s probably not clear ... maybe it should be like $15 for first person $10’for second and $5 for after that or something

Not sure - all I know is the whole thing makes Disneyland less appealing to me wanting to bring my family there and more wanting to go as a solo or just my wife (also found Disneyland was much harder to just get from one area to another with my family and, DCA specifically, had much fewer “everybody” rides and more “kiddie” and “adult” rides - so Maxpass just reinforces my views)
 
When I went to Disneyland for my first time this past July, I received a survey that had a few MaxPass questions. One of the things I wrote was that there should be a MaxPass family plan like you stated. For families of 4 and up, $10 was a lot but now $15 a day per person is a killer especially if ur going for 4 or 5 days.

Yeah, I think if we ever do go again we would get Maxpass for just one or 2 days and use those days to hit up as much of the FP rides and get our photos and stuff and use the other days for shows and non-FP rides
 
Yeah, it’s probably not clear ... maybe it should be like $15 for first person $10’for second and $5 for after that or something

Not sure - all I know is the whole thing makes Disneyland less appealing to me wanting to bring my family there and more wanting to go as a solo or just my wife (also found Disneyland was much harder to just get from one area to another with my family and, DCA specifically, had much fewer “everybody” rides and more “kiddie” and “adult” rides - so Maxpass just reinforces my views)
I could see that as a better compromise over just Individual and Family (unless they define Family as just 2 people or more).

I know for sure what you mean I'm just thinking it would leave the people with 2,with 3 people out in the cold if it was just Individual and Family. For my husband and I $15/day for 3 days adds up. For my step-father-in-law $15/day for 3 days does not add up to him. Just different financial situations, different tolerances for things. That's why I phrased my comment that way. The amount of people don't necessarily matter in that sense. It's how much does the total cost affect you (both actually financially and willingness to want to pay that). I guarantee you step-father-in-law would see $15/day for 5, 6,7 people and be like "take my money" because to him that's nothing at all when you compare that it would make things easier for his family to navigate the days and get stuff done. But that's him. Someone else may completely balk at that. I mean he has his tolerances but they are way way higher than my husband and I.
 
I could see that as a better compromise over just Individual and Family (unless they define Family as just 2 people or more).

I know for sure what you mean I'm just thinking it would leave the people with 2,with 3 people out in the cold if it was just Individual and Family. For my husband and I $15/day for 3 days adds up. For my step-father-in-law $15/day for 3 days does not add up to him. Just different financial situations, different tolerances for things. That's why I phrased my comment that way. The amount of people don't necessarily matter in that sense. It's how much does the total cost affect you (both actually financially and willingness to want to pay that). I guarantee you step-father-in-law would see $15/day for 5, 6,7 people and be like "take my money" because to him that's nothing at all when you compare that it would make things easier for his family to navigate the days and get stuff done. But that's him. Someone else may completely balk at that. I mean he has his tolerances but they are way way higher than my husband and I.

And maybe it comes to the point that you almost have to get Maxpass and when picing our a Disneyland trip you factor that in as part of the cost

I know some people do that with Universal now - that the cost of express pass (either via the hotel room cost or on its own) is just part of the overall cost vs like an “extra” you add in after pricing out your trip (hope this makes sense the way I worded it)
 
And maybe it comes to the point that you almost have to get Maxpass and when picing our a Disneyland trip you factor that in as part of the cost

I know some people do that with Universal now - that the cost of express pass (either via the hotel room cost or on its own) is just part of the overall cost vs like an “extra” you add in after pricing out your trip (hope this makes sense the way I worded it)
It makes sense.

I don't want to go to the parks without a park hopper or for universal without a park-to-park ticket and while those are presently the only extra I'm totally down for paying it's something that I just consider part of the cost. I'm not that way with everything though as Disney keeps adding extras upon extras lol but I totally get you on that.
 
Yeah, think about the maxpass....our family of 3 for 4 days...$180, that's like buying 1/2 an extra 4 day pass. Not sure that's worth it. I had been planning I might try one day with the maxpass and one day without and see whether I think it's worth the price. My family isn't about hitting every ride 3 times so really debating on this one. Also will need to see how the rides at GE are included. I'm guessing they'll be blacked out initially, but need to wait and see. The only good thing is that you can just buy it day-to-day.
 
I view the keys to a dark ride are something in door and where there is some sort of ride vehicle that guides you through the path and shows you a series of vignents only when they want you to see them and uses visuals and audio and effects - all to tell a story (which is, I think a key part).

So based on that you have your classic dark rides like Peter Pan and the Haunted Mansion ... but also I would say Dinosaur qualifies as it meets those criteria. Same way, I wouldn't call It's a Small World a dark ride, it is more a boat ride along the lines of Living with the Land or the Storybook Canal boat ride

And now there are mixed rides - so something like Gringotts and (I believe) the coming Guardians roller coaster is a mix of dark ride elements with sections of thrill ride. I'd also put Splash Mountain in that category as a mix between a flume ride and a dark ride
I might throw in Radiator Springs Racers with that as well.
 

As much as people complain about the price of a one-day park-to-park ticket at Universal Orlando, it's looking like a real bargain compared to the Disneyland price. However, getting a single day ticket is never a good deal. Hopefully, the D23 Expo discount for park tickets is a decent deal. I knew they weren't going to release that price until the new price increases kicked in. I still think Maxpass is a good deal at $15/person, but I can see how costs can really add up for people. If you consider the price of staying onsite at DLR and doing early morning hours compared to just getting Maxpass and staying offsite, I think Maxpass still comes out to be a better deal, since the DLR onsite hotels have such a huge price premium.
 
I just saw the new thread about the additional dvc resale restrictions that are being put in place. After the point reallocation and now this, Disney really seems to be trying to test the breaking point. I know dvc was a long term goal of mine, but it really is starting to no longer seem appealing.
 
I just saw the new thread about the additional dvc resale restrictions that are being put in place. After the point reallocation and now this, Disney really seems to be trying to test the breaking point. I know dvc was a long term goal of mine, but it really is starting to no longer seem appealing.
Disney is trying to limit the resale market and make it look like buying direct is the best option.
 
I just saw the new thread about the additional dvc resale restrictions that are being put in place. After the point reallocation and now this, Disney really seems to be trying to test the breaking point. I know dvc was a long term goal of mine, but it really is starting to no longer seem appealing.

Uh oh! Better check this out! Thanks for posting.
 
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