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I do find it fascinating that the TSL lines are so (relatively) short. Even if you were to say that people aren't going out of their way for it, it STILL seems strange that the lines for NEW rides are shorter than for existing rides. (I just looked at ToT is at 65 minuts, RnRC at 90 mins, while SDD is at 70 minutes, TSMM is at 60 minutes, and AS2 is 40 minutes. (Maybe the AS2 makes sense, because no ones going to wait two hours for THAT ride.)

The first thought that occurs to me is:maybe they aren't getting crowds in the summer anymore?? FOP is at 130 minutes but even space mountain is only at 70 minutes. We had longer lines back in February when we were there. So either they are running rides with more capacity, or the crowds just aren't as bad.

The second thought is - maybe these new rides they decided not to give out so many FP for them. It's not uncommon for WDW to use 80% FP on rides...but perhaps they decided to try and hold back long lines by not handing out a bazillion FP. Especially with the fact that each person coming into the park can only get ONE FP for each of those 3 rides - by holding down the # of FP, they are in fact holding down the standby lines as well.
 
I do find it fascinating that the TSL lines are so (relatively) short. Even if you were to say that people aren't going out of their way for it, it STILL seems strange that the lines for NEW rides are shorter than for existing rides. (I just looked at ToT is at 65 minuts, RnRC at 90 mins, while SDD is at 70 minutes, TSMM is at 60 minutes, and AS2 is 40 minutes. (Maybe the AS2 makes sense, because no ones going to wait two hours for THAT ride.)

The first thought that occurs to me is:maybe they aren't getting crowds in the summer anymore?? FOP is at 130 minutes but even space mountain is only at 70 minutes. We had longer lines back in February when we were there. So either they are running rides with more capacity, or the crowds just aren't as bad.

The second thought is - maybe these new rides they decided not to give out so many FP for them. It's not uncommon for WDW to use 80% FP on rides...but perhaps they decided to try and hold back long lines by not handing out a bazillion FP. Especially with the fact that each person coming into the park can only get ONE FP for each of those 3 rides - by holding down the # of FP, they are in fact holding down the standby lines as well.

I also think the changing of turning had a big impact - now you can only FP one of the TSL results des but then can do both ToT and RNRC as tier 2 - meaning if you don’t have FP for those rides the standby will be longer
 

I do find it fascinating that the TSL lines are so (relatively) short. Even if you were to say that people aren't going out of their way for it, it STILL seems strange that the lines for NEW rides are shorter than for existing rides. (I just looked at ToT is at 65 minuts, RnRC at 90 mins, while SDD is at 70 minutes, TSMM is at 60 minutes, and AS2 is 40 minutes. (Maybe the AS2 makes sense, because no ones going to wait two hours for THAT ride.)

The first thought that occurs to me is:maybe they aren't getting crowds in the summer anymore?? FOP is at 130 minutes but even space mountain is only at 70 minutes. We had longer lines back in February when we were there. So either they are running rides with more capacity, or the crowds just aren't as bad.

The second thought is - maybe these new rides they decided not to give out so many FP for them. It's not uncommon for WDW to use 80% FP on rides...but perhaps they decided to try and hold back long lines by not handing out a bazillion FP. Especially with the fact that each person coming into the park can only get ONE FP for each of those 3 rides - by holding down the # of FP, they are in fact holding down the standby lines as well.
Good thoughts
My 3rd thought is that SDD is fun and cute, but it’s only a “must wait and ride multiple times” to a family that can’t yet ride RnR.

TSMM was generally a <40 minute wait at DCA, and now that DHS has a few more family rides, it’s TSMM is trending that way.
 
maybe these new rides they decided not to give out so many FP for them.
There may be something to this. My 60 day window opened at 0700 this morning. At 0701, ZERO FPs were available for SDD on any of the days we will be there. Every other ride in every park was available for at least 1 of our 4 days on property. Grabbed FOP, no problem.

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Joe must be so sick of answering that question. I remember when he got tweeted that someone at TSA asked him about it. You'd think he'd get them to fix it just so he would have to stop hearing it.

I think if the fix required anything less than a major, long term, overhaul, it would have been fixed. I'm guessing we'll either see Everest go down shortly now that Pandora has been open more than a year to have it fixed by the 50th, or it won't go down until the major refurbishment lifespan is reached. 20-30 operational years? Either way, I'm not sure it ever gets fixed
 
The Disneyland fireworks ended up just having the fourth of July tag at the end.

Main Street was a mess even three hours before the fireworks. We decided to just keep doing rides and then watch wherever we ended up.

Turns out that wasn't the best idea. Everywhere was just crammed with people. Almost by accident we ended up at the storybook land canal boats. We were able to get into a boat two minutes before they stopped loading them.

Our driver got us a great spot and we parked and were able to watch the fireworks in seated comfort, while I pretended that I had that planned the whole time.

How cool! I love the Storybook Land Canal Boats. 8 more days:woohoo:Hope you aren't suffering in the heat.
 
I think if the fix required anything less than a major, long term, overhaul, it would have been fixed. I'm guessing we'll either see Everest go down shortly now that Pandora has been open more than a year to have it fixed by the 50th, or it won't go down until the major refurbishment lifespan is reached. 20-30 operational years? Either way, I'm not sure it ever gets fixed
I think it does get fixed eventually. It’s just taking the ride down for a while that I think is part of the issue. Even with Pandora Everest is a draw and part of the parks overall capacity. I have heard that it’s possible to remove the yeti without taking the ride down to fix it. So they could operate the ride without the yeti at in the mean time. I’m not sure they would want to do that either since it’s part of the overall story.
 
I think it does get fixed eventually. It’s just taking the ride down for a while that I think is part of the issue. Even with Pandora Everest is a draw and part of the parks overall capacity. I have heard that it’s possible to remove the yeti without taking the ride down to fix it. So they could operate the ride without the yeti at in the mean time. I’m not sure they would want to do that either since it’s part of the overall story.

I just don't think they care enough to repair it solely to repair it. Very few people go on the ride knowing that it used to move and the strobe light gives enough of an effect to satisfy the majority. I don't see them closing or altering the ride to fix the Yeti. Until the track needs maintainence I think it'll remain as is.

To most the Yeti is still one of the highlights of the attraction.
 
I just don't think they care enough to repair it solely to repair it. Very few people go on the ride knowing that it used to move and the strobe light gives enough of an effect to satisfy the majority. I don't see them closing or altering the ride to fix the Yeti. Until the track needs maintainence I think it'll remain as is.

To most the Yeti is still one of the highlights of the attraction.
I get that but as Joe obviously has been asked about many times Disney fans still want to see it fixed and Joe wants it fixed himself.

The ride itself hasn’t seen even a short refurb in a very long time so I’ve got to think even a short one is coming in the next few years.
 
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