News Round Up 2017

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Well, you might want to put the "room occupied" sign on the door. That is what it is for.

Now then, they always have had and forever will have the right to come in anyway, but they will knock, then call, jot down the time and if they try several times day and night and nobody ever answers with the "room occupied" sign on the door then they will have no choice but to eventually come in anyway. It HAS to be that way. A person could be dead in there, passed out, etc...let alone having forty guns or something bad.

they also can now look at your magic band. When was the last time you opened the door and are you in a park right now, etc.

It's not like they are going to barge into every room looking for naked people.

You may have not read the article.



This states that when you are actually leaving that "room occupied" sign up that's what gives them the sign that they are required to enter the room.

Me putting up the "room occupied" sign means that they are supposed to knock first then enter my room. The "room occupied" sign from the what the article is saying doesn't mean the same as what it was before. "Do Not Disturb" meant just that. "Room Occupied" means we need to go in and check their room since they declined housekeeping for that day.

So yeah if I have that sign up it's entirely possible they would walk in on a naked person if the only notice they are giving is "knock first then enter". If I'm in the bathroom or shower it's likely I may not even hear your knock.

 

[sachilles]

I think it's more of a CYA thing. They aren't going into everyone's room daily. They don't have the time and staff for that. It's a case of having the policy in place if they feel the need to go in based upon suspicious activities(noise, smell, unresponsiveness).

Heck they'll probably give us an $80 gift card to skip having the courtesy checks

 

[Roxyfire]

You may have not read the article.

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This states that when you are actually leaving that "room occupied" sign up that's what gives them the sign that they are required to enter the room.

Me putting up the "room occupied" sign means that they are supposed to knock first then enter my room. The "room occupied" sign from the what the article is saying doesn't mean the same as what it was before. "Do Not Disturb" meant just that. "Room Occupied" means we need to go in and check their room since they declined housekeeping for that day.

And the non-highlighted part says "reasonable notice" before entering. Now my armchair lawyer brain wonders what is considered reasonable notice? Are they knocking and waiting 5 minutes for a response? Are they calling/visiting anyone who hasn't left their room in 12 hours, 24 hours, 36 hours? As a renter, I'm given 24 hours notice minimum if my landlord wants/needs to come by for any reason. Of course they're nice people and usually ask about a week or two in advance. But legally speaking they could say "we need to come by Saturday at noon to check on everything" and I would be hard pressed to say no.

I think it's more of a CYA thing. They aren't going into everyone's room daily. They don't have the time and staff for that. It's a case of having the policy in place if they feel the need to go in based upon suspicious activities(noise, smell, unresponsiveness).

Heck they'll probably give us an $80 gift card to skip having the courtesy checks

Yeah, it seems more like "we reserve the right to..." rather than a hard policy. Maybe they'll keep it up for a couple weeks or a month and then slowly just focus on rooms that are technically occupied but no one has been in or out.

 

[skier_pete]

Also to me this brings up something. If indeed it was due to Vegas what are they going to do? Search your belongings? If you do have housekeeping for that day are the housekeepers searching your belongings?

I was there in Vegas just after this had happened. Searching each and every person's room brings up a lot of issues to say the least and without going through people's belongings what does it actually serve to do. Even if I didn't agree with it searching one's property prior to entering the premises is a lot more preferable than a CM entering my room all because I decided to either sleep in that day, stay at the resort that day or didn't feel like having my room cleaned.

I agree they shouldn't be allowed to go through your bags without cause, but that guy had like 28 automatic weapons in his room with munitions. Seems like if they walk into a room and see 28 bags I would think that would result in "cause".

The other thing I'll say (and I apologize because this isn't really meant to get political but it kind of does) is that as a country if we are not willing to be flexible about our rights to bear arms, we will have to give up OTHER rights to stay safe. This is why we are searched when entering stadiums, airports, and the Disney parks. The choice has to be made between restricting gun use, or restricting access to public area WITH guns. Disney has the right to go through your bag to enter the park, they can easily as well tell you they have the right to look through your things in your hotel room. In this country, you have the right to "bear arms" but Disney doesn't have to allow you to bring your arms into their parks.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

And the non-highlighted part says "reasonable notice" before entering. Now my armchair lawyer brain wonders what is considered reasonable notice? Are they knocking and waiting 5 minutes for a response? Are they calling/visiting anyone who hasn't left their room in 12 hours, 24 hours, 36 hours? As a renter, I'm given 24 hours notice minimum if my landlord wants/needs to come by for any reason. Of course they're nice people and usually ask about a week or two in advance before. But legally speaking they could say "we need to come by Saturday at noon to check on everything" and I would be hard pressed to say no.

Yeah it's all a bit vague to be honest. Knocking and announcing they will enter to me seems pretty immediate. When are they going to have the time and man power to schedule going into people's rooms. That's why it seemed like they would knock to let you know they are on the other side of the door and then enter probably in a few minutes or less of initially knocking. All just my guess of course.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think it's more of a CYA thing. They aren't going into everyone's room daily. They don't have the time and staff for that. It's a case of having the policy in place if they feel the need to go in based upon suspicious activities(noise, smell, unresponsiveness).

Heck they'll probably give us an $80 gift card to skip having the courtesy checks

To me this is what I was going with in my mind. IF something seems off they can go with their policy and proceed. But my mind is thinking this would be quite strange to go into people's rooms as a norm due to a sign on the door.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I agree they shouldn't be allowed to go through your bags without cause, but that guy had like 28 automatic weapons in his room with munitions. Seems like if they walk into a room and see 28 bags I would think that would result in "cause".

The other thing I'll say (and I apologize because this isn't really meant to get political but it kind of does) is that as a country if we are not willing to be flexible about our rights to bear arms, we will have to give up OTHER rights to stay safe. This is why we are searched when entering stadiums, airports, and the Disney parks. Disney has the right to go through your bag to enter the park, they can easily as well tell you they have the right to look through your things in your hotel room.

Yeah but see that's the thing with this. If all you are doing is peeking around what does that actually serve? You would only be able to find so to speak someone who decided to openly leave firearms out and about. All that work just to hope someone left it out? They would need to actually go through people's suitcases, gift bags, etc if they wanted to actually do a good safety check. Otherwise seems like a lot for likely little gain (i.e. finding openly dangerous items).

 

[jlundeen]

We always put the little security latch on the inside of the door if we are in the room and don't want to be disturbed. As well as the room occupied sign. I don't know that there's any way for someone to open the door if that latch is on

 

[Tigger's ally]

You may have not read the article.

I read the article just fine.

This states that when you are actually leaving that "room occupied" sign up that's what gives them the sign that they are required to enter the room.

That doesn't "signal" them to come in the room. it is what tells them to knock.

IF you are in the room and want to take a shower, your best bet would be to put out the sign, use the dead bolt. The little thing that you slide across while you are in the room (don't know what they call it but some used to have a chain and now most just have a metal slide that goes over a ball, think of it as a "nightlatch") is what "keeps someone from walking in on you with no clothes on. If the person that must check your room knocks, you don't answer, but then tries to come in, they can only open it about an inch and a half. they will then know somebody is in there and will try again later when you are done showering or have left and taken down the sign.

 

[PaintsWithAllTheColors]

News

"Do Not Disturb" signs being removed from Magic Kingdom area resorts. The rooms will now receive a sign that says "Room Occupied." The main difference is a CM will be required to enter your room at least once a day. This change will be brought to all of the Walt Disney World Resorts at another time.

This is said to be a new security procedure based on what happened in Las Vegas earlier this year. Disney didn't comment on that though.

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/12/break...-world-hotels-not-disturb-room-signs-removed/

So, what does this mean for DVC?

 

[rteetz]

News

Stitch's Great Escape! to Reopen for Seasonal Operation This Weekend

 

[marcyleecorgan]

Just seems like a reasonable piece of the security puzzle. This policy could be used widely ; suspected non-registered pet in the room, smokers of all kinds, odd luggage etc...

 

[sachilles]

The security latch is a bit of a wrinkle isn't it? Not defeating that one particularly quick. Unless of course they remove them.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Yeah but see that's the thing with this. If all you are doing is peeking around what does that actually serve? .

find an unresponsive person maybe, but probably more than anything it is up front security. In other words, those planning to do something bad used to be able to sign off no mousekeeping, put the do not disturb sign on the door and there was a pretty good chance nobody was going to come into that room for the duration of the stay. Now, they have to know that won't be the case.

 

[MissGina5]

News

Stitch's Great Escape! to Reopen for Seasonal Operation This Weekend

I mean I guess so since MVMCM is booked up for the next few days

 

[Tigger's ally]

The security latch is a bit of a wrinkle isn't it? Not defeating that one particularly quick. Unless of course they remove them.

My assumption = there is a "slim Jim" made for this.

 

[skier_pete]

The security latch is a bit of a wrinkle isn't it? Not defeating that one particularly quick. Unless of course they remove them.

My guess is that if the security latch is closed, they will come back later. If the security latch is in place for several days, they will likely have a way to override this to check on your room.

 

[rteetz]

News

Magic Kingdom's holiday entertainment begins during regular park hours tomorrow

 

[Tigger's ally]

My guess is that if the security latch is closed, they will come back later. If the security latch is in place for several days, they will likely have a way to override this to check on your room.

Mine too. And I bet they would be looking at your magic band to see if there is any movement...

 

[sachilles]

My assumption = there is a "slim Jim" made for this.

chances are there is someone on the other side of that door if the latch is still latched.
The slim jim is a batting ram, or other brute force entry, resulting in a door repair.