News Round Up 2017

[LSLS]

Yes - I'm confused by this - are you talking parking fees for resort guests at RESORTS, or parking fees for resort guests at PARKS. Neither one would affect me since we've never had a car there, but they seem to me to be two very different things. (A parking fee at the PARKS could be avoided by using the Disney Transportation system as provided, the parking Fees at RESORTS would be unavoidable.)

I've never really gotten the concept of the resort fees - other than as a way to raise rates without raising rates.

A lot of resorts charge a resort fee and a self parking fee, my guess is this is what is meant.

 

[skier_pete]

Also what BS to start charging fees for somethin


A lot of resorts charge a resort fee and a self parking fee, my guess is this is what is meant.

Oh I know resort fees are common, I just think they are funny is all.

The self-parking fee at the resorts wouldn't surprise me. I wonder how many people it would actually turn off. As I said, we've never had a car on property, and I have no desire to have one, so that fee could hardly matter less for me.

 

[1983DisneyFanatic]

Oh I know resort fees are common, I just think they are funny is all.

The self-parking fee at the resorts wouldn't surprise me. I wonder how many people it would actually turn off. As I said, we've never had a car on property, and I have no desire to have one, so that fee could hardly matter less for me.

Unless they charge a catch all resort fee that includes parking whether you use it or not.

 

[rteetz]

As in parking fees at the parks for on-site guests?

As far as resort fees, for the love of God just put it in the price of my room. If I don't see it I won't be pissed off.

Yes - I'm confused by this - are you talking parking fees for resort guests at RESORTS, or parking fees for resort guests at PARKS. Neither one would affect me since we've never had a car there, but they seem to me to be two very different things. (A parking fee at the PARKS could be avoided by using the Disney Transportation system as provided, the parking Fees at RESORTS would be unavoidable.)

I've never really gotten the concept of the resort fees - other than as a way to raise rates without raising rates.

Sorry about that. This would be for parking at the resorts. If you were going to be staying or dining at a resort you would have to pay to park.

 

[SureAsLiz]

Sorry about that. This would be for parking at the resorts. If you were going to be staying or dining at a resort you would have to pay to park.

This will be such a pain if it happens.
I have no desire to pay to park to eat dinner. Oftentimes when I work late I will head over to a resort and grab a snack from their food court. Rather than seeing more money from me, I will just stop going to the resort.
I'm a small demographic, but that's still lost revenue.

Maybe it will be like Universal where Fl Residents are allowed in after certain hours, but I definitely see this having a negative impact on resort restaurants

 

[rteetz]

This will be such a pain if it happens.
I have no desire to pay to park to eat dinner. Oftentimes when I work late I will head over to a resort and grab a snack from their food court. Rather than seeing more money from me, I will just stop going to the resort.
I'm a small demographic, but that's still lost revenue.

Maybe it will be like Universal where Fl Residents are allowed in after certain hours, but I definitely see this having a negative impact on resort restaurants

The rumor did say that having reservations at resort restaurants might still get free parking but something like going to a food court would likely need you to pay unfortunately.

 

[LSLS]

This will be such a pain if it happens.
I have no desire to pay to park to eat dinner. Oftentimes when I work late I will head over to a resort and grab a snack from their food court. Rather than seeing more money from me, I will just stop going to the resort.
I'm a small demographic, but that's still lost revenue.

Maybe it will be like Universal where Fl Residents are allowed in after certain hours, but I definitely see this having a negative impact on resort restaurants

I doubt it is a small demographic, I can't imagine how they see this as a good idea.

 

[rteetz]

I doubt it is a small demographic, I can't imagine how they see this as a good idea.

Because Disney wants to increase profit margins.

 

[dlavender]

I think adding resort fees will be a mistake for WDW.

Perhaps they are becoming embarrassed for what they are charging for rooms, and just have to find another way to raise rates.

I mean, can you, with a straight face, say CBR is worth $250/night?

They can't, apparently, and would rather say $225 + $25.

I hope this one turns out to be not true.

 

[rteetz]

News

A look at the new Space Mountain trains for Disneyland Paris

http://www.space-mountain.fr/documents-infos/infos/133-hyperspace-mountain-2017.html

 

[rteetz]

News

Reservations Now Open for Disney California Adventure Food & Wine Festival Premium Events

 

[rteetz]

News

I reported this a while back but this gives it a bit more insight. Lauren Powell Jobs is no longer Disney's largest Stock Holder.

http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/laurene-powell-jobs-disney-shares-1201975438/

 

[SureAsLiz]

The rumor did say that having reservations at resort restaurants might still get free parking but something like going to a food court would likely need you to pay unfortunately.

I figured that would be the case, but it's still a pain.
I know plenty of people who go to the resorts to use the running trails or visit gift shops and if the options are 'go to Disney but be in and out in under 30 minutes or pay for parking' or 'go literally anywhere else that is free' I'm going with the second option

 

[rteetz]

News

As Disney is rumored to start charging for parking at their resorts, Universal Orlando announces parking at their parks after 6PM is free.

http://www.**************.net/2017/...ree-after-600-pm-at-universal-orlando-resort/

 

[mikepizzo]

News

As Disney is rumored to start charging for parking at their resorts, Universal Orlando announces parking at their parks after 6PM is free.

http://www.**************.net/2017/...ree-after-600-pm-at-universal-orlando-resort/

SWEEP THE LEG JOHNNY!

 

[TwoMisfits]

News

As Disney is rumored to start charging for parking at their resorts, Universal Orlando announces parking at their parks after 6PM is free.

http://www.**************.net/2017/...ree-after-600-pm-at-universal-orlando-resort/

Honestly, anyone from Disney who has a car should really consider the Universal dinner and a movie and dinner and minigolf deal tickets for a much cheaper evening entertainment night after the parks close at 7pm so the evening paid EMH crowd can have your old hours...

 

[LSLS]

Because Disney wants to increase profit margins.

Maybe. WDW would be running on the premise that the extra $20 or so a night would offset the number of people who would then choose to stay offsite/not head to a quick service to eat. I'm not convinced of that. Lets take Pop Century (think they are 2880 rooms or so if the number I saw is correct). Lets assume the hotel would normally be 90% full, so you are looking at 2500 occupancy. And lets assume a normal rate of $120. For one night, you made $300,000. Now lets assume the increased fee is $20, that increase would bring you to $350,000 a night. If more than 16% of people decide that this is no longer worth it, you are losing money. I think they are taking a BIG gamble. Now lets say realistically 10% of people lose it over this and decide to stay off site (or worse yet, not even do Disney, but that would be a different argument). Assuming that, you would have made an extra $15,000. You could raise your prices by $6 per room (and assume that 10% no longer leaves), not add this fee, and make the same amount. This also doesn't factor in people who stop off at resorts just to look around (which could result in them staying on site next time, buying a souvenir, grabbing a quick service lunch, etc.). Obviously I'm just completely making up numbers here, but just using rough calculations, I'm not convinced it is going to increase profits.

 

[RAD]

Rumor

Get ready for parking and resort fees! Management feels they can get away with it at WDW resorts because everyone else around them is doing it. First 30 minutes will be free but you will be charged after that. Tables in wonderland is still supposed to get free valet. As for resort fees no added amenities and no word when exactly that would start.

They better not try to start charging these fees to DVC members else there might be four BVW contracts going up for resale, that's just going too far.

 

[rteetz]

Maybe. WDW would be running on the premise that the extra $20 or so a night would offset the number of people who would then choose to stay offsite/not head to a quick service to eat. I'm not convinced of that. Lets take Pop Century (think they are 2880 rooms or so if the number I saw is correct). Lets assume the hotel would normally be 90% full, so you are looking at 2500 occupancy. And lets assume a normal rate of $120. For one night, you made $300,000. Now lets assume the increased fee is $20, that increase would bring you to $350,000 a night. If more than 16% of people decide that this is no longer worth it, you are losing money. I think they are taking a BIG gamble. Now lets say realistically 10% of people lose it over this and decide to stay off site (or worse yet, not even do Disney, but that would be a different argument). Assuming that, you would have made an extra $15,000. You could raise your prices by $6 per room (and assume that 10% no longer leaves), not add this fee, and make the same amount. This also doesn't factor in people who stop off at resorts just to look around (which could result in them staying on site next time, buying a souvenir, grabbing a quick service lunch, etc.). Obviously I'm just completely making up numbers here, but just using rough calculations, I'm not convinced it is going to increase profits.

If they do something like the rumor suggest, first 30 minutes free and then up from there I feel like they think people will just pay it. You also have to remember this applies to guests staying at the resort. If you have a car you have to pay a per night fee. So that's extra money from everyone who drove to the resort. This is similar to what the Swan and Dolphin does.

 

[Moliphino]

News

A look at the new Space Mountain trains for Disneyland Paris

http://www.space-mountain.fr/documents-infos/infos/133-hyperspace-mountain-2017.html

Are they changing the outside of the ride at all? Because those trains don't go with it at all.