News Round Up 2016

[mikepizzo]

Non-thrill attraction makes me think it's much more for younger kids. Possibly a Pixie Hollow thing (get other fairies than just Tinker Bell), but I'm pretty sure they said that Neverbeast was the end of their movies, so that would be pretty dated by opening. My guess is it will be a Disney Junior thing. Probably something with Sofia where other princesses can be involved as well. I could be way off, but I wonder if between everything left at DHS and everything they are putting in if they are worried they are going to lose some of that young crowd (not enough for young kids to really like) and they will put a major Disney Junior thing in to get kids excited to go as well.

Not disagreeing with you, just posing a question...

Do you think a Disney Junior property has the ability to be an 'e-ticket' attraction?

My fiancee's nephew aboslutely loves Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and while I actually enjoy watching it with him, I can understand how some people would rather stick their hand in a meatgrinder than watch another episode...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

My first thought was Big Hero 6 - but does that count as Marvel? Pretty sure the comic was under the Marvel banner

Wreck It Ralph could be interesting - could counter what Universal may do with Nintendo

Not sure they would do something permanent with Disney Jr just because they shows change so much - they basically have an unwritten policy that no show lasts more than 4 years. Unless it is something like a simulator where they could update it every few years

Zootopia could be cool - and could be a more advanced dark ride (maybe using a trackless system) where you go through zootopia, maybe trying to catch a new bad guy or something ... something a bit like the structure of that ratatouille ride

 

[TheMaxRebo]

What would be an example of a non-thrill E ticket?

some of the bigger dark ride types - Pirates or Haunted Mansion ... a newer one could be Under the Sea (not sure if these truly qualify but I think they do in Disney's eyes). Guess it depends on the definition of "Thrilling" as Soarin' or Toy Story Midway Mania could also qualify

 

[LSLS]

Not disagreeing with you, just posing a question...

Do you think a Disney Junior property has the ability to be an 'e-ticket' attraction?

My fiancee's nephew aboslutely loves Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and while I actually enjoy watching it with him, I can understand how some people would rather stick their hand in a meatgrinder than watch another episode...

That's the one thing I'm not sure about. It's just the first thing that popped into my head that would be a draw for the younger crowds.

 

[Budshark]

Maybe we are finally going back to not everything has to be IP based.

Anyone??? No???

 

[rteetz]

What does "confirmed" mean here? That makes it sound like more than a rumor.

Everything I have seen shows its moving forward they just can't reveal the IP yet.

 

[rteetz]

Maybe we are finally going back to not everything has to be IP based.

Anyone??? No???

unlikely unfortunately...

 

[rteetz]

Not Marvel, Pixar, or presumably Star Wars? That really peaks my interest thinking what it could be.

Can't imagine that it is older IP - nothing from last century that isn't already well represented in parks. I also dismiss the idea of not being IP based. Disney doesn't think that way anymore, and not for that park. I tend to think something with slightly more girl appeal...with Toy Story and Star Wars I am guessing management would worry about "not enough for girls" at the park.

- First thought is Zootopia - a pretty huge hit that is sequel ready - Judy Hopps makes it appeal to girls as well as boys. Family friendly dark ride would be an easy sell.
- A recent yet underrepresented Perhaps Tangled or Princess & The Frog related. I think P&tF has grown significantly in popularity since original release, and Tangled was a pretty big hit until it was overshadowed by the dreaded F-word. (That's Frozen in case someone accuses me of cursing. )
- Tinkerbell? That Pixie Hollow section of Fantasyland remains in a design bin just waiting to be built. Not a ride though. I feel like Pixie Hollow's popularity has waned, but don't know if that's just because I have a teen now.
- Wreck-It-Ralph, since a sequel was just announced. Might be hard to pull off to get rights to use characters for a theme park setting. Also less girl-themed than I think they might want to go. I think this and Big Hero Six would be low on the likelyhood scale.
- Indiana Jones ride? Unlikely if it not a thrill ride. However, I still think DHS could use another coaster.
- Final, completely crazy thought - Muppets Great Movie Ride? I think this highly unlikely based on the show being cancelled, but the fact they are building Muppets mini-land? Just maybe...

Zootopia is possible maybe.

A princess could also be possible.

Indiana Jones has been speculated.

Wreck it Ralph would be cool.

Its not Muppets.

 

[rteetz]

What would be an example of a non-thrill E ticket?

A dark ride like maybe Haunted Mansion, mystic manor, pirates.

 

[rteetz]

Not disagreeing with you, just posing a question...

Do you think a Disney Junior property has the ability to be an 'e-ticket' attraction?

My fiancee's nephew aboslutely loves Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and while I actually enjoy watching it with him, I can understand how some people would rather stick their hand in a meatgrinder than watch another episode...

I don't think it will be Disney Junior.

 

[sachilles]

I guess I'd be very interested to see what they consider is a modern non thrill E ticket. Basically, if the report is accurate we can assume it's not a coaster, nor is it a simulator. So that would leave some type of ominmover. If done right, that would eat the crowds. I would hope they've learned that the crowd eaters are in important in any new area, if they want to comfortably sustain the higher crowd levels.

 

[skier_pete]

What would be an example of a non-thrill E ticket?

I argue this a lot...."E-ticket" doesn't actually mean "Whiz bang top of the line ride" it should mean "most popular ride".

The original E-tickets at WDW were It's a Small World, 20K Leagues, Country Bears, Jungle Cruise, Hall of Presidents and Haunted Mansion. Not one is a thrill ride, and only maybe Haunted Mansion would even be considered an "E" today.

So - I would argue that Toy Story Mania is a non-thrill E-ticket attraction. It is the most popular ride in that park, though certainly not the best. The only other E's in that park are thrill rides - RnRC and ToT. If they were still using E-tickets today, Frozen Ever After would be an E-ticket as well. Again, not because it's the best ride, but because it's popular. (Actually - today's "Tier 1 FP" is yesterdays "E-ticket".)

 

[rteetz]

I guess I'd be very interested to see what they consider is a modern non thrill E ticket. Basically, if the report is accurate we can assume it's not a coaster, nor is it a simulator. So that would leave some type of ominmover. If done right, that would eat the crowds. I would hope they've learned that the crowd eaters are in important in any new area, if they want to comfortably sustain the higher crowd levels.

I would say Mystic Manor is a modern day E-ticket attraction or something like Shanghai's Pirates.

 

[rteetz]

I argue this a lot...."E-ticket" doesn't actually mean "Whiz bang top of the line ride" it should mean "most popular ride".

The original E-tickets at WDW were It's a Small World, 20K Leagues, Country Bears, Jungle Cruise, Hall of Presidents and Haunted Mansion. Not one is a thrill ride, and only maybe Haunted Mansion would even be considered an "E" today.

So - I would argue that Toy Story Mania is a non-thrill E-ticket attraction. It is the most popular ride in that park, though certainly not the best. The only other E's in that park are thrill rides - RnRC and ToT. If they were still using E-tickets today, Frozen Ever After would be an E-ticket as well. Again, not because it's the best ride, but because it's popular. (Actually - today's "Tier 1 FP" is yesterdays "E-ticket".)

Disney does still use the ticket terms internally. Avatar's Banshee ride was labeled an E on blue prints and the boat ride was labeled a C.

 

[Ursula's Apprentice]

I don't think it will be Disney Junior.

Thank goodness for that!

 

[rteetz]

News

A look at the fuelrod Kiosks in the parks

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...-devices-in-the-parks-with-fuelrod-kiosks.htm

 

[ColoradoDreamin]

I argue this a lot...."E-ticket" doesn't actually mean "Whiz bang top of the line ride" it should mean "most popular ride".

The original E-tickets at WDW were It's a Small World, 20K Leagues, Country Bears, Jungle Cruise, Hall of Presidents and Haunted Mansion. Not one is a thrill ride, and only maybe Haunted Mansion would even be considered an "E" today.

So - I would argue that Toy Story Mania is a non-thrill E-ticket attraction. It is the most popular ride in that park, though certainly not the best. The only other E's in that park are thrill rides - RnRC and ToT. If they were still using E-tickets today, Frozen Ever After would be an E-ticket as well. Again, not because it's the best ride, but because it's popular. (Actually - today's "Tier 1 FP" is yesterdays "E-ticket".)

One interesting thing to add to the "discussion"...insider said that when it is announced, it will cause some debate. It was also said that when it is finally announced, everybody will understand why it couldn't be announced now -- as if some sort of detail was not ironed out in contracts to allow it.

Big Hero 6 would be off the table for this from my understanding, cause it would fall under "marvel" flag, and it won't be Marvel.

 

[Phicinfan]

One interesting thing to add to the "discussion"...insider said that when it is announced, it will cause some debate. It was also said that when it is finally announced, everybody will understand why it couldn't be announced now -- as if some sort of detail was not ironed out in contracts to allow it.

Big Hero 6 would be off the table for this from my understanding, cause it would fall under "marvel" flag, and it won't be Marvel.

you could be right, but the exact quote for Martin was it has nothing to do with the universal contract. So...potentially it could be Big Hero 6........

 

[eXo]

Do you think a Disney Junior property has the ability to be an 'e-ticket' attraction?

My fiancee's nephew aboslutely loves Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, and while I actually enjoy watching it with him, I can understand how some people would rather stick their hand in a meatgrinder than watch another episode...

While I'm having trouble finding a source for this, I distinctly remember reading that MMC has been canceled in it's current form. However, a spin-off called Mickey and the Roadster Racers is set to debut next year. Disney seems adverse to building an attraction based on television shows. Generally we just get M&G's and maybe a stage show in that realm.

The frozen ride is the fastest turn around time I've ever seen at Disney in regards to adaptation of a property, and that only took one of the highest grossing original films in the companies history to make happen (not to mention it was *easily* the most merchandised). It was also a reskin, even if a nice one, which meant the risk was lower. It would have been hard to put a ride in the place of Maelstrom that pulled in less people. Not that maelstrom wasn't good, but I think anyone here would have trouble stating that it was popular.

So my guess is we get something based on a classic, proven, property.

 

[WardFamily]

Disney wants more of your money

$15 Preferred Parking now at Water Parks

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/07/photos-disney-water-parks-now-offering-preferred-parking/