News Round Up 2016

[rteetz]

News

This is a pretty cool new version of BB-8. Maybe I should've waited for this instead of my Sphero droid.

http://www.laughingplace.com/w/blogs/disney-buzz/2016/02/12/upcoming-bb-8-toy-raises-droid-bar/

 

[Spacedog1975]

Rumor

Speculation based on the new florida ABD trip is the Welcome show at the Magic Kingdom will be ending...

Hopefully not before I finally wake up for it.

 

[Budshark]

News

This is a pretty cool new version of BB-8. Maybe I should've waited for this instead of my Sphero droid.

http://www.laughingplace.com/w/blogs/disney-buzz/2016/02/12/upcoming-bb-8-toy-raises-droid-bar/

The sphero one is still nicer. The improvements they need to make to theirs is a speaker in the unit itself and some lights in the head. Add those in and he's pretty perfect.

 

[rteetz]

The sphero one is still nicer. The improvements they need to make to theirs is a speaker in the unit itself and some lights in the head. Add those in and he's pretty perfect.

I agree with that.

 

[LSLS]

So I understand this correctly. Lets say you are perfectly happy with your wage. It provides with everything you want in life. Things get busy at work, and you are the only person that can help, and it means you have to work an extra 10 hours that week. You'd probably want that 1.5x pay for the inconvenience, wouldn't you? You shouldn't have to work 50 hours every week of your life, but if you get the opportunity, you are free to take it. It's an opportunity.
You don't need a disney vacation, but it's nice to have one. It's nice to have the financial freedom to afford one. Some times you have to work extra to afford the luxuries you'd like but not need.

If you'd rather work consistent 50 hours a week at disney rather than 40 hours a week at Megalomart with the same take home pay, you are free to do so. Some people do enjoy work, and enjoy being at work. Some people enjoy working at certain place more than others, even though the compensation may not be the same.

Think you guys are arguing different things. Eoghann (and correct me if I'm wrong) seems to be more making a case that they need the overtime to make a liveable wage. Sure if you do have to work extra, it would be nice to have the extra money. But most people there aren't getting that OT and using it for extra nice things, most are using that to survive.

 

[Eoghann]

Think you guys are arguing different things. Eoghann (and correct me if I'm wrong) seems to be more making a case that they need the overtime to make a liveable wage. Sure if you do have to work extra, it would be nice to have the extra money. But most people there aren't getting that OT and using it for extra nice things, most are using that to survive.

Ding ding ding!

Disney Worlds base pay is $10 an hour (College Program gets even less) at that rate you're not saving up extra you're lucky if you can pay your monthly bills.

If we're speaking about what I personally do, if work needs done I get it done even though I'm not eligible for overtime at my job. Why? Because they pay me a decent wage in the first place. If they made a habit of dumping extra work on me an expecting me to work extra hours, then there would be a problem.

 

[dlavender]

Rumor

Speculation based on the new florida ABD trip is the Welcome show at the Magic Kingdom will be ending...

No!!! I love that show. Why?

 

[rteetz]

No!!! I love that show. Why?

Well the other three parks got rid of theirs so I guess MK is next. The speculation comes from the new ABD central Florida trip. In the description it mentions a in park rope drop ceremony rather than the welcome show.

 

[Eoghann]

Rumor

Speculation based on the new florida ABD trip is the Welcome show at the Magic Kingdom will be ending...

Does any other park have a proper welcome show now?

It's cute and I like it (though sometimes it's better to just push on to the rides) but I can see it being an easy target for "cost cutting".

 

[sachilles]

Think you guys are arguing different things. Eoghann (and correct me if I'm wrong) seems to be more making a case that they need the overtime to make a liveable wage. Sure if you do have to work extra, it would be nice to have the extra money. But most people there aren't getting that OT and using it for extra nice things, most are using that to survive.

I get it. My point is more along the lines of this. Disney is not the only employer in Florida. They might be the biggest, but not the only. You go into a job knowing what your wage is, and whether you can make a go of it. Simply put, you don't take the job if it doesn't meet your minimum needs.
Now if you go into the job at $x/hour, with the promise of a year promotion and raise in 12 months, and are mislead....well that is rotten.
If Disney does not compensate it's staff fairly, they will lose them to other employers. If Disney can not maintain enough staff, they lose out. It will regulate itself.
It's not a forced labor camp.

Supply and demand.

 

[Eoghann]

I get it. My point is more along the lines of this. Disney is not the only employer in Florida. They might be the biggest, but not the only. You go into a job knowing what your wage is, and whether you can make a go of it. Simply put, you don't take the job if it doesn't meet your minimum needs.

That's an incredibly naive statement.

Many people take the job they can get.

 

[rteetz]

Breaking News

Olaf is coming to DHS and Mickey and Minnie get new meet and greets.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...nie-coming-soon-to-disneys-hollywood-studios/

 

[rteetz]

Does any other park have a proper welcome show now?

It's cute and I like it (though sometimes it's better to just push on to the rides) but I can see it being an easy target for "cost cutting".

MK is the only one currently. This doesn't necessarily seem part of the cost cutting as they are going to a new rope drop thing altogether according to what was mentioned in the ABD description.

 

[Eoghann]

Breaking News

Olaf is coming to DHS and Mickey and Minnie get new meet and greets.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...nie-coming-soon-to-disneys-hollywood-studios/

Thank god! I've been wondering how I could meet Mickey and Minnie! ;D

Olaf will be a popular addition.

 

[sachilles]

That's an incredibly naive statement.

Many people take the job they can get.

I guess I'm too naive to see it then, my apologies.
Is it your opinion that Disney is the only one not paying enough in the Orlando tourism industry, or is it an Orlando area problem?

Prevailing wages is a hot topic around the country, I'm not convinced the companies are too blame(not entirely).

 

[dlavender]

Well the other three parks got rid of theirs so I guess MK is next. The speculation comes from the new ABD central Florida trip. In the description it mentions a in park rope drop ceremony rather than the welcome show.

I didn't realize they did away with the other three. I liked the pre shows. Oh well, I guess they couldn't find a way to charge for them, so away they go!

 

[sachilles]

Anyone who works 40 hours for any employer should have a sustainable living wage. It astounds me that this is considered a "political" sentiment.

I don't disagree.
My sentiment is that the reason the minimum is not adequate has more to do with Uncle Sam than it does with the individual employers.
IE, taxes are not equitable and the cost of living is too high.

 

[pork]

Anyone who works 40 hours for any employer should have a sustainable living wage. It astounds me that this is considered a "political" sentiment.

It's not really the sentiment that's political. It's how its achieved

 

[Eoghann]

I guess I'm too naive to see it then, my apologies.
Is it your opinion that Disney is the only one not paying enough in the Orlando tourism industry, or is it an Orlando area problem?

Prevailing wages is a hot topic around the country, I'm not convinced the companies are too blame(not entirely).

Well we're really delving far to far into the political here so let me try to answer you question and then tie this all back to Disney.

I think this country is full of companies who pay inadequate wages. Walmart's minimum is about the same as Disney's for example. So no it's not just Disney nor is it just an Orlando problem.

However, Disney is a company that has not only the revenue, but the profit margin which would allow it to pay better wages should it wish to. They do not do so purely to satisfy shareholders (and keep their own stock portfolios buoyant). Any other excuses they give are just that, excuses. They are a company and their sole focus is making money, but they are only too happy to blow pixie dust BS at people and talk about loyalty and magic as though those are substitutes for treating your employees well.

I think they should be called out on that when they do it (along with all the other companies who employ the same slimy practices).

And yes I've been known to call out my own company when they start running the "loyalty" line while simultaneously cutting employees too.

 

[sachilles]

Then we are probably 90% in agreement then.
Whether they can afford to pay more, is an issue we don't have the full info on. I guess I'd wager that wage equity within the company is where some headway could be made. Many companies play that game.